WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 8, 2018

Listener comments!
	🤖 6:00pm Webhamster Henry: You can add to the Google Plus story that Big G is shutting down G+. This data beach was a kind of last straw for the under socialized social media platform that only Jeff Moore and I use. I liked G+! I found it useful for posting ideas that I knew people wouldn't read. qz.com... I guess I'll have to post them on Orkut. No wait - iTunes Ping. Or Friendster. Or my blogs. Or ECHO ECHOnyc.com
	6:01pm ultradamno: Hello Mark, techigitators!
	6:01pm average earbuds: hello!
	6:01pm listener james from westwood: Howdy, Mark and all! Sonic 'tonic tonight, I see!
	🤖 6:02pm Webhamster Henry: Greetings Techtones!
	🤖 6:03pm Bas NL: Hi Mark & Techtobillies!
	6:03pm geezerette: Hallo,Mark and Techies!
	6:04pm chris: hi there, Mark and folks.
	6:04pm melinda: @henry poor blogs, I keep mine going but all the action is at the social media platforms.
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Sounds like it's G- now, Henry. Good evening, Techtroids.
	🤖 6:05pm herb.nyc: Hi mark and all, wnyc 82am had a favorable facial recognition segment earlier, 5.25pm. I am now of "what, me worried?" about it.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: @melinda I think there's a service that turns blogs into podcasts (read by robots)!
	6:07pm northguineahills: I call dibs on the Tristan Zara and Kurt Switters AI lyric generators!
	🤖 6:08pm Bas NL: Wow! Stealth motherboards!
	6:09pm northguineahills: @Henry, yeah, a shame, I keep in touch w/ a dozen or so friends w/ random stories and we opine via G+. It helps since I live far from all of my old friends.
	6:09pm geezerette: NGH, me too me too! :D
	6:10pm geezerette: ...Zara & Schwitters...
	6:11pm geezerette: ...Apple Sider...
	🤖 6:11pm Webhamster Henry: @NGH all you have to do is "clean up" the corpus before uploading it to the Botnik generator, and voila! By "clean up" I mean toss out any funny looking characters and non-relevant matter first.
	6:11pm Michael 98145: "with a name like Schwitters, it -has- to be good" :), hey, gz'ette
	6:13pm geezerette: Howdy, Michael! :)
	6:13pm melinda: @Henry I could create a really boring podcast!
	6:13pm spodiodi: Great points, Mark Hurst
	🤖 6:14pm Bas NL: We know nothing and deny everything!
	6:14pm queems: my doctor's office made me scan my palm today for some administrative reason and i wish i hadn't let them do it
	6:14pm geezerette: no coll-ooze-shun...
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: What do you mean that Apple/Amazon & Bloomberg can't both be right? Both Ford and Kavanaugh were right!
	6:16pm Michael 98145: The Fb monster just won't die; the video chat bot : www.nytimes.com...
	6:16pm geezerette: Wow, the generosity of Bezos knows no reasonable bounds!
	🤖 6:17pm Ken From Hyde Park: That was Jessica Bruder on IRL: www.wfmu.org...
	6:17pm Michael 98145: ( of course, Techtonic beat me to it ... :)
	6:19pm northguineahills: @Henry: I allow my friend to do it, since it was his project to start w/. I'll run it by him.
	6:19pm wolfman13: amazon wage rise doesnt balance out at the end of the day, they took away VCP (monthly bonuses that can add up to 400-500 extra bucks on your check) and other bonuses too. id say its nuetral or bad
	🤖 6:19pm Webhamster Henry: Bust The Trust! ©1890
	6:19pm melinda: @queems kinda creepy but hard to know what to do on the spot in a situation like that.
	6:20pm wolfman13: former amazon worker here
	6:21pm northguineahills: bangs head on keyboard like Guy Smiley Fümms bö wö tää zää Uu, pögiff, kwii Ee. 1 Oooooooooooooooooooooooo, 6 dll rrrrr beeeee bö dll rrrrr beeeee bö fümms bö, (A) rrrrr beeeee bö fümms bö wö, beeeee bö fümms bö wö tää, bö fümms bö wö tää zää, fümms bö wö tää zää Uu: Yes, I created Kurt Switters tone poetry (seriously, I love it, and used to have his poems up on my walls).
	6:21pm listener james from westwood: Facebook Portal: "The privacy is a lie."
	6:22pm listener james from westwood: Alterna-headline: "Read the Room, Facebook! No, Not That Way!"
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: What the hell does the Portal Plus do, prostate checks?!
	6:23pm geezerette: there are actually no nations now, just global corporations and the acronyms that love them. Oh no! I'm becoming cynical! Quick, quick, some birthday cake and balloons for an antidote!!!
	6:23pm Megaroni: Thanks for bringin us these truths on this powerful New Moon!
	6:24pm listener james from westwood: @geezerette, you are edging toward the "Network" speech and I am HERE for it.
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: Facebook is just trying to remove impediments from sex cam streaming.
	6:24pm geezerette: L. James, HA!
	6:25pm geezerette: I want out!!! Forward!...into the past!
	6:27pm Michael 98145: @WH, that was my thought when i heard about the Portal. xxx.
	6:29pm northguineahills: @geezerette: Here you go!
	6:30pm JakeGould: Anyone remember back in 2011 or so when Google+ switched to a new design and people all over (as if they were paid shills) kept on saying how “beautiful” it was? I always remember that as being a creepy thing few talk about.
	6:30pm geezerette: Must...find...penpal...(koff!,koff ! drags self across desert toward mirage of stationary store).
	6:31pm geezerette: chill enough song to save a glacier.
	6:32pm ultradamno: I could hear this as a Daniel Johnston song.
	🤖 6:33pm Webhamster Henry: I've been drawing pictures on pre-stamped postcard and sending them to my kid at college.
	6:34pm geezerette: webhamster, brilliant! :D
	🤖 6:37pm Folsom: since G+ is going away I'll have to go back to usenet groups
	6:38pm Bootsie: I want Becky to play this! ;-)
	6:38pm JakeGould: If anyone wants to experience Usenet, just go to Union Square and start a casual conversation about politics… BOY HOWDY IS THAT REAL!!!
	6:39pm melinda: @ngh Guy Smiley! "I'll never get, never!"
	6:40pm Michael 98145: love this :)
	🤖 6:40pm Folsom: A Devo cover would be cool
	6:40pm melinda: Wait, that was Don Music!
	6:40pm geezerette: Botnik is brilliant !
	6:40pm Jeff Moore: Bwaa ha ha!
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: alt.barney.kill.kill.kill
	6:41pm chris: classic one, Henry! lol
	🤖 6:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: I want Clay Pigeon to play this!
	6:41pm Michael 98145: robot meat is murder
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: Doing a Clay Pigeon song Botnik keyboard would be pretty good!
	6:44pm northguineahills:
	🤖 6:50pm Webhamster Henry: BTW the videos for some of these tunes are really good!
	6:51pm BigCat: I have a poll on TWTR @realBenEmerson "Is it DISHONESTY when you don't know the truth and you're just sharing what you've herd? + + + [pun: herd]
	6:52pm ultradamno: Went for the jackal and Micah's premium this time out.
	6:52pm BigCat: btw, hi Techtonoidz
	6:53pm Michael 98145: woof wooo www.instagram.com...
	6:55pm BigCat: I'm f_cking joble$$ (and obviously self-pitying) my support and word of mouth will hopefully have value for the pledge
	6:55pm nat: more botnik songs: thesongularity.com
	6:56pm BigCat: poll dancer: twitter.com...
	6:57pm northguineahills: Don't worry, BigCat, When i was unemployed, others picked up the slack, now that I can, I'm doing the same.
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: I hope you like Autoharps cuz you're gonna hear one!
	6:58pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Mark!
	6:59pm northguineahills: Squeee! Do I hear an autoharp!!!!!!!!!!!!
	6:59pm northguineahills: answer confirmed!
	7:00pm Michael 98145: just get out there and vote ...www.youtube.com...
	🤖 7:00pm Bas NL: Yeay! Good one Webhamster Henry!
	🤖 7:00pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	7:01pm nat: that was good! henry, who are you? get at us
	🤖 7:02pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark ( & Jamie) . @nat, click on my name here in the playlist to see a profile!
	7:06pm nat: Okay but how do we assimilate you?

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 8, 2018

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Upcoming events:

Mon. Nov 4th, 6pm - 7pm: Dystopia update (More info...)
Chatbots are now running rampant - appearing in new-model cars - as we're being told to "be nice to chatbots." Stores are using "digital price tags," which rely on surveillance to set the price to the company's liking. Meantime, Google's AI is giving wrong answers, in some cases, almost half the time. All these and more in Mark's dystopia update.
Mon. Dec 23rd, 6pm - 7pm: Don Fleming guest hosts Techtonic

October 8, 2018: AI-inspired music with Jamie Brew, Botnik cofounder

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October fundraiser: PLEDGE HERE - chip in with other Techtonic listeners! And thanks.

This week: Jamie Brew, Botnik cofounder, on AI-inspired songs

Above: "Pitchfork-reviewed band names + a recurrent neural network," by Botnik

Botnik pointers:

• Botnik homepage, Twitter account, and YouTube channel

• Botnik's predictive keyboards (make your own!)

• The Songularity: A Pop Album by Humans and Machines (Kickstarter campaign)

• I Have To Get My Car, using a smartphone's built-in predictive text keyboard.

• You Can't Take My Door, using the lyrics from country music's greatest hits

• I Don't Want To Be There, a predictive text song made by rearranging lyrics from The Strokes

• Bored With This Desire To Get Ripped = Morrissey lyrics + Amazon customer reviews of a home workout DVD system

• Shenandoah is an Amphipod: "This aquatic folk song combines Bob Dylan lyrics with transcripts of Sir David Attenborough's 'The Blue Planet.'"

• Soviet Nights: "We combined the Beach Boys with Ronald Reagan speeches to create the greatest Cold War pop song."

• Negatively 4th Street = Bob Dylan lyrics + negative Yelp reviews of restaurants on 4th Street in Manhattan

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Recent Tech News

• News broke today (so strange, on a holiday!) about a new home-surveillance device, the Facebook Portal. Weird, since Facebook's most recent major headline was news of the latest hack (50 million accounts) announced on a Friday afternoon a little over a week ago.

• Facebook to offer wide-angle videocall camera that tracks you as you move around your home (BoingBoing, Oct 8): "To celebrate the leaking of 50 million user accounts last week, Facebook is today launching two 'video call machines' that 'automatically zoom in on users and follow them as they move.'"

• It’s the Wrong Time for a Facebook Surveillance Device (Oct 8, Bloomberg): "With the debut of the Portal device and its sibling, the Portal+, the company has apparently decided that now is the right time to persuade Americans to put Facebook microphones, data-harvesting technologies and video cameras inside their homes. To which I say — nope."

• Scott Galloway: "'I'd like a camera in my home controlled by Facebook.' -Nobody, ever"

• Christopher Mims on Facebook's launch (Oct 8, Twitter): "For those of you who never read it or forgot, the 1984 reference you're looking for when talking about Facebook Portal is the 'Telescreen.'"

......and big, big news from Bloomberg. Keep in mind that China makes 75% of mobile devices worldwide and 90% of PCs.

• The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies (Oct 4, Bloomberg BusinessWeek): "The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain. ... Nested on the servers’ motherboards, the testers found a tiny microchip, not much bigger than a grain of rice, that wasn’t part of the boards’ original design. ... investigators determined that the chips allowed the attackers to create a stealth doorway into any network that included the altered machines. ... investigators found that the chips had been inserted at factories run by manufacturing subcontractors in China."

• Apple vigorously denied the claims, as did Amazon.

• Mathew Ingram (past Techtonic guest), Oct 5: "It's possible those who are doing the denying at Apple and Amazon weren't even aware of the Chinese hacking investigation." (referring to a TechCrunch article)

....speaking of Amazon......

• Amazon raised its minimum wage for US employees to $15/hour. Guardian: Don't thank Bezos for giving Amazon workers a much-needed raise. "Amazon is a powerful monopoly that undermines small businesses, extracts tax concessions and suppresses producers. ... it is happening not because Amazon is the best player in the market, but because it is the market."

......and more on Google......

Google Exposed User Data, Feared Repercussions of Disclosing to Public (WSJ, Oct 8): again, so strange for this to break on a holiday weekend! "Google exposed the private data of hundreds of thousands of users of the Google+ social network and then opted not to disclose the issue this past spring, in part because of fears that doing so would draw regulatory scrutiny and cause reputational damage..."

...and finally...

Techtonic community news:

• Our friends at the Reanimation Library need a new home! Listen to the show with founder Andrew Beccone.

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Jamie Brew, cofounder of Botnik, talks about AI-inspired pop songs. Then we listen to a few.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"		0:01:22 (Pop-up)
	Interview with Jamie Brew, Botnik "Interview with Jamie Brew, Botnik"		0:23:06 (Pop-up)
Botnik	I Have to Get My Car "I Have to Get My Car" by "Botnik"		0:28:41 (Pop-up)
Botnik	You Can't Take My Door "You Can't Take My Door" by "Botnik"		0:32:00 (Pop-up)
Botnik	Bored With This Desire To Get Ripped		0:36:00 (Pop-up)
Botnik	Soviet Nights "Soviet Nights" by "Botnik"		0:45:30 (Pop-up)
	Your calls and comments 201-209-9368 "Your calls and comments 201-209-9368"		0:47:40 (Pop-up)
Webhamster Henry	I Ain't the Dust		0:55:51 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🤖 6:00pm Webhamster Henry: You can add to the Google Plus story that Big G is shutting down G+. This data beach was a kind of last straw for the under socialized social media platform that only Jeff Moore and I use. I liked G+! I found it useful for posting ideas that I knew people wouldn't read. qz.com... I guess I'll have to post them on Orkut. No wait - iTunes Ping. Or Friendster. Or my blogs. Or ECHO ECHOnyc.com
	6:01pm ultradamno: Hello Mark, techigitators!
	6:01pm average earbuds: hello!
	6:01pm listener james from westwood: Howdy, Mark and all! Sonic 'tonic tonight, I see!
	🤖 6:02pm Webhamster Henry: Greetings Techtones!
	🤖 6:03pm Bas NL: Hi Mark & Techtobillies!
	6:03pm geezerette: Hallo,Mark and Techies!
	6:04pm chris: hi there, Mark and folks.
	6:04pm melinda: @henry poor blogs, I keep mine going but all the action is at the social media platforms.
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Sounds like it's G- now, Henry. Good evening, Techtroids.
	🤖 6:05pm herb.nyc: Hi mark and all, wnyc 82am had a favorable facial recognition segment earlier, 5.25pm. I am now of "what, me worried?" about it.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: @melinda I think there's a service that turns blogs into podcasts (read by robots)!
	6:07pm northguineahills: I call dibs on the Tristan Zara and Kurt Switters AI lyric generators!
	🤖 6:08pm Bas NL: Wow! Stealth motherboards!
	6:09pm northguineahills: @Henry, yeah, a shame, I keep in touch w/ a dozen or so friends w/ random stories and we opine via G+. It helps since I live far from all of my old friends.
	6:09pm geezerette: NGH, me too me too! :D
	6:10pm geezerette: ...Zara & Schwitters...
	6:11pm geezerette: ...Apple Sider...
	🤖 6:11pm Webhamster Henry: @NGH all you have to do is "clean up" the corpus before uploading it to the Botnik generator, and voila! By "clean up" I mean toss out any funny looking characters and non-relevant matter first.
	6:11pm Michael 98145: "with a name like Schwitters, it -has- to be good" :), hey, gz'ette
	6:13pm geezerette: Howdy, Michael! :)
	6:13pm melinda: @Henry I could create a really boring podcast!
	6:13pm spodiodi: Great points, Mark Hurst
	🤖 6:14pm Bas NL: We know nothing and deny everything!
	6:14pm queems: my doctor's office made me scan my palm today for some administrative reason and i wish i hadn't let them do it
	6:14pm geezerette: no coll-ooze-shun...
	🤖 6:15pm Webhamster Henry: What do you mean that Apple/Amazon & Bloomberg can't both be right? Both Ford and Kavanaugh were right!
	6:16pm Michael 98145: The Fb monster just won't die; the video chat bot : www.nytimes.com...
	6:16pm geezerette: Wow, the generosity of Bezos knows no reasonable bounds!
	🤖 6:17pm Ken From Hyde Park: That was Jessica Bruder on IRL: www.wfmu.org...
	6:17pm Michael 98145: ( of course, Techtonic beat me to it ... :)
	6:19pm northguineahills: @Henry: I allow my friend to do it, since it was his project to start w/. I'll run it by him.
	6:19pm wolfman13: amazon wage rise doesnt balance out at the end of the day, they took away VCP (monthly bonuses that can add up to 400-500 extra bucks on your check) and other bonuses too. id say its nuetral or bad
	🤖 6:19pm Webhamster Henry: Bust The Trust! ©1890
	6:19pm melinda: @queems kinda creepy but hard to know what to do on the spot in a situation like that.
	6:20pm wolfman13: former amazon worker here
	6:21pm northguineahills: bangs head on keyboard like Guy Smiley Fümms bö wö tää zää Uu, pögiff, kwii Ee. 1 Oooooooooooooooooooooooo, 6 dll rrrrr beeeee bö dll rrrrr beeeee bö fümms bö, (A) rrrrr beeeee bö fümms bö wö, beeeee bö fümms bö wö tää, bö fümms bö wö tää zää, fümms bö wö tää zää Uu: Yes, I created Kurt Switters tone poetry (seriously, I love it, and used to have his poems up on my walls).
	6:21pm listener james from westwood: Facebook Portal: "The privacy is a lie."
	6:22pm listener james from westwood: Alterna-headline: "Read the Room, Facebook! No, Not That Way!"
	6:23pm listener james from westwood: What the hell does the Portal Plus do, prostate checks?!
	6:23pm geezerette: there are actually no nations now, just global corporations and the acronyms that love them. Oh no! I'm becoming cynical! Quick, quick, some birthday cake and balloons for an antidote!!!
	6:23pm Megaroni: Thanks for bringin us these truths on this powerful New Moon!
	6:24pm listener james from westwood: @geezerette, you are edging toward the "Network" speech and I am HERE for it.
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: Facebook is just trying to remove impediments from sex cam streaming.
	6:24pm geezerette: L. James, HA!
	6:25pm geezerette: I want out!!! Forward!...into the past!
	6:27pm Michael 98145: @WH, that was my thought when i heard about the Portal. xxx.
	6:29pm northguineahills: @geezerette: Here you go!
	6:30pm JakeGould: Anyone remember back in 2011 or so when Google+ switched to a new design and people all over (as if they were paid shills) kept on saying how “beautiful” it was? I always remember that as being a creepy thing few talk about.
	6:30pm geezerette: Must...find...penpal...(koff!,koff ! drags self across desert toward mirage of stationary store).
	6:31pm geezerette: chill enough song to save a glacier.
	6:32pm ultradamno: I could hear this as a Daniel Johnston song.
	🤖 6:33pm Webhamster Henry: I've been drawing pictures on pre-stamped postcard and sending them to my kid at college.
	6:34pm geezerette: webhamster, brilliant! :D
	🤖 6:37pm Folsom: since G+ is going away I'll have to go back to usenet groups
	6:38pm Bootsie: I want Becky to play this! ;-)
	6:38pm JakeGould: If anyone wants to experience Usenet, just go to Union Square and start a casual conversation about politics… BOY HOWDY IS THAT REAL!!!
	6:39pm melinda: @ngh Guy Smiley! "I'll never get, never!"
	6:40pm Michael 98145: love this :)
	🤖 6:40pm Folsom: A Devo cover would be cool
	6:40pm melinda: Wait, that was Don Music!
	6:40pm geezerette: Botnik is brilliant !
	6:40pm Jeff Moore: Bwaa ha ha!
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: alt.barney.kill.kill.kill
	6:41pm chris: classic one, Henry! lol
	🤖 6:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: I want Clay Pigeon to play this!
	6:41pm Michael 98145: robot meat is murder
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: Doing a Clay Pigeon song Botnik keyboard would be pretty good!
	6:44pm northguineahills:
	🤖 6:50pm Webhamster Henry: BTW the videos for some of these tunes are really good!
	6:51pm BigCat: I have a poll on TWTR @realBenEmerson "Is it DISHONESTY when you don't know the truth and you're just sharing what you've herd? + + + [pun: herd]
	6:52pm ultradamno: Went for the jackal and Micah's premium this time out.
	6:52pm BigCat: btw, hi Techtonoidz
	6:53pm Michael 98145: woof wooo www.instagram.com...
	6:55pm BigCat: I'm f_cking joble$$ (and obviously self-pitying) my support and word of mouth will hopefully have value for the pledge
	6:55pm nat: more botnik songs: thesongularity.com
	6:56pm BigCat: poll dancer: twitter.com...
	6:57pm northguineahills: Don't worry, BigCat, When i was unemployed, others picked up the slack, now that I can, I'm doing the same.
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: I hope you like Autoharps cuz you're gonna hear one!
	6:58pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Mark!
	6:59pm northguineahills: Squeee! Do I hear an autoharp!!!!!!!!!!!!
	6:59pm northguineahills: answer confirmed!
	7:00pm Michael 98145: just get out there and vote ...www.youtube.com...
	🤖 7:00pm Bas NL: Yeay! Good one Webhamster Henry!
	🤖 7:00pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	7:01pm nat: that was good! henry, who are you? get at us
	🤖 7:02pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark ( & Jamie) . @nat, click on my name here in the playlist to see a profile!
	7:06pm nat: Okay but how do we assimilate you?

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 8, 2018

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