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Favoriting November 4, 2010: w/ Matt LeMay talkin' bout Art vs Content
Matt LeMay is a writer, musician, coder and generally thinky/talky dude. His latest article, "Living in the Age of Art vs Content", is an in-depth answer to the question Zach Baron posed in the Village Voice: "Is It Possible to Sell Out in 2010?", and to Steve Albini dissin Sonic Youth for their Major Label move. We'll try not to say too many brand names over the course of this 12-minute convo.

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Artist Track Album Label Comments New Approx. start time
Flipper  Talk's Cheap   Favoriting         0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Guided By Voices  Shocker in Gloomtown   Favoriting The Grand Hour  Scat      0:03:05 (Pop-up)
Drunks With Guns  Wonderful Subdivision   Favoriting Drunks With Guns  Behemoth      0:03:34 (Pop-up)
Thrones  Wage War   Favoriting Sundries (Fall Tour 2010)  self-released 
dif version available on a new 7'' on Conspiracy
and hey didja catch the WFMU live session??  		  0:08:56 (Pop-up)
Telegraph Avenue  Let Me Start   Favoriting Telegraph Avenue  Repsychled      0:14:56 (Pop-up)
Peter Hammill  Nobody's Business   Favoriting Nadir's Big Chance        0:17:25 (Pop-up)
The Fleshtones  New Scenes   Favoriting It's Super Rock Time: The IRS Years 1980-1985  Raven      0:21:27 (Pop-up)
Vomit Squad  Howard Ruark   Favoriting Amon Ra Bless America  Psychic Handshake    *   0:24:21 (Pop-up)
Angel Face  12 1/2   Favoriting Wolf City Blues        0:26:00 (Pop-up)
Minitel  Astre   Favoriting Streisand 7''  Bruit Direct Disques      0:28:35 (Pop-up)
 
Shogun Kunitoki  Daniel   Favoriting Tasankokaiku  Fonal  Minor Musics: Finland series @ ISSUE Project Room    0:40:45 (Pop-up)
Neu  Danzing   Favoriting '86  Gronland      0:43:11 (Pop-up)
Flying Lotus  Jurassic Notion/M Theory   Favoriting Pattern + Grid World  Warp    *   0:48:05 (Pop-up)
Pregnant  Tribe   Favoriting Regional Music LP  Life's Blood    *   0:51:08 (Pop-up)
Lucky Dragons  Power Melody   Favoriting Open Power 12'' EP    Free Music Archive    0:54:54 (Pop-up)
Dustin Wong  Anniversary Song   Favoriting     Free Music Archive    0:59:46 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
 
talkin' cheap w/ Matt LeMay  
 
 

Matt LeMay is a writer, musician, coder and generally thinky/talky dude. His latest article, "Living in the Age of Art vs Content", is an in-depth answer to the question Zach Baron posed in the Village Voice: "Is It Possible to Sell Out in 2010?", and to Steve Albini dissin Sonic Youth for their Major Label move. We'll try not to say too many brand names over the course of this 12-minute convo.
 
 
1:24:42 (Pop-up)
Pierced Arrows  In My Brain   Favoriting     Free Music Archive    1:30:03 (Pop-up)
The Paparazzi  The Rococo Tape   Favoriting Ampeater's BreakThruRadio Compilation  Ampeater Music  Free Music Archive    1:33:28 (Pop-up)
My Teenage Stride  Dr. Dayglo   Favoriting 5 new songs    Free Music Archive    1:35:18 (Pop-up)
Transmitters  Radio Studente   Favoriting Count Your Blessings (1987-1989)  You Are Not Stealing Records  Free Music Archive
big shout out to Katya/Oddio Overplay for introducing Portugal's You Are Not Stealing Records to the FMA!  		  1:37:01 (Pop-up)
G.G. Allin's Dick  Chaos Theory for a Box of Toys   Favoriting King of the Road  You Are Not Stealing Records  Free Music Archive    1:41:52 (Pop-up)
James Yates  A72   Favoriting Bad Panda #54  Bad Panda Records  Free Music Archive  *   1:46:21 (Pop-up)
Blah Blah Blah  In The Army   Favoriting Gold Collection    Free Music Archive    1:50:29 (Pop-up)
Mastermind XS  Memories of a machine   Favoriting One dub many roots  LCL (LibreCommeLair)  Free Music Archive  *   1:56:05 (Pop-up)
Raleigh Moncrief  Cheese Steak   Favoriting         2:00:24 (Pop-up)
 
Teferi Felleqe  Kelkeyelegn   Favoriting Ethiopiques Volume 3: Golden Years of Modern Ethiopian Music 1969-1975  Buda Musique      2:09:32 (Pop-up)
Thomas Mapfumo & The Acid Band  Pfumvu Pa Ruzevha (Hardships in the Rural Areas)   Favoriting The Chimurenga Singles 1976-1980  Meadowlark      2:13:09 (Pop-up)
Manzanita y su Conjunto  Agua   Favoriting The roots of Chicha 2: Psychedelic Cumbias from Peru [V/A]  Barbes Records    *   2:17:21 (Pop-up)
The Psychedelic Aliens  Okponmo Ni Tsitsi Emo Le   Favoriting Psycho African Beat  Voodoo Funk    *   2:20:41 (Pop-up)
Olympus  Ere I Die   Favoriting Bold Mould  Stabbies Etc. / Soft Abuse  (not "Is Love an Emotion?")  *   2:23:38 (Pop-up)
Earth  German Dental Work   Favoriting A Bureaucratic Desire for Extra-Capsular Extraction  Southern Lord  reissued  *   2:28:33 (Pop-up)
Timmy's Organism  Silver Mountain   Favoriting Rise of the Green Gorilla  Sacred Bones    *   2:34:01 (Pop-up)
Bruce Haack  Ancient Mariner   Favoriting Farad: The Electric Voice  Stones Throw    *   2:36:27 (Pop-up)
Giorgio Moroder  Warum (Why)   Favoriting Einzelganger  Oasis      2:40:29 (Pop-up)
I-F  Runner   Favoriting The West Coast Electro Sound of Holland: The Hague Rocks the Planet #2        2:43:27 (Pop-up)
Steve Cauthen  I Feel Like Thanking Everyone   Favoriting 7''    record fair find!    2:55:07 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  9:03am
Steve L:

Dear God, Flipper opens another work day for me. Certainly the end times are near.
  9:03am
Cheri Pi:

G'mornin Jason and the rest of you!
  9:05am
jason:

makin' the end times happy times
  9:05am
Cheri Pi:

Steve L.., I was thinking the same!
  9:08am
Elwyn:

Gosh I love that GbV song so much!
  9:10am
Cheri Pi:

Joe Preston for heavy president.
  9:11am
Tom:

Mornin! Diggin it all.
  9:15am
dc pat:

Hi. Bye.
  9:19am
BSI:

This Hammill teeters pretty close to the sound of Robert Calvert's early solo concept LPs. Good stuff.
  9:26am
joe:

hey jason, let's write a song about a worker in one of converse's factories and apply to record it at "Rubber Tracks," their coming culture factory. or maybe a cover of "richard cory" (u know, by simon & garfunkel)? discuss! sincerely, joe
  9:31am
Cheri Pi:

I think the word needs to get out that Nike has owned Converse since 2003, I stand behind this song idea.
  9:38am
jaw:

Yep, terminal 5 sucks
  9:38am
dc pat:

wait what did King Kahn do now?
  9:39am
jason:

dc pat i thought you were leavin. he played in another band and made another record called "amon ra bless america"
  9:40am
Robert:

Which was nearly the title of your show: "Wonderful Subdivision", or "Drunks With Guns"?
  9:41am
jason:

hey Robert, it was almost called "Wonderful Subdivision". would yall've rather heard that song at thestart each week?
  9:42am
Robert:

Sorry, just streamed in, didn't hear it.
  9:42am
dc pat:

Oh is THAT all? yeah, busy today so in and out.
  9:44am
Robert:

Is it like 'Subdivisions" by Rush, only more wonderful?
  9:45am
Tom:

Be cool or be cast out
  9:46am
Talk's Creep:

Digging the black and yellow color scheme here. wu tang colors! and yes, you can sell out in 2010. unless you're in the tea party. then you're safe.
  9:46am
Robert:

That's what I say to the stuff in my refrigerator.
  9:49am
Aaron:

flying Lotus - NICEEEEE
  9:57am
Bicklespume:

Time to get pregnant with Lucky Dragons all around...

fistula glory!
  10:03am
joe:

i luke may be taken... but maybe he's down w/ surrogate fatherhood!
  10:12am
Small Key:

If there's no artistic and personal integrity going into it, there's no integrity that's going to show up later either.
  10:12am
bw:

so it really art vs content or ads vs content!
  10:15am
Rodney:

Someone please post a link to the Rollins video discussed here.
  10:16am
dc pat:

yes music = music; which to me is the foundation of wfmu. Stravinsky and Howlin Wolf and the minutemen are all in the same boat to me.
  10:17am
tim from champaign:

Is there a risk of brand sponsorship doing a bait and switch? What happens when Scion figures out that having Pierced Arrows and The Spits playing at their sponsored fest doesn't sell more cars?
  10:17am
bw:

dc pat - right on!
  10:19am
Small Key:

Contracts tend to last much longer than the themes of any one ad campaign.
  10:21am
Talk's Creep:

some of this stuff makes me feel like music is supposed to be approached in a library with bad lighting and serious faces. aren't daily routines typically invaded by the upsetting, inconvenient or disruptive? i feel like art is more reflective of the day-to-day, not escapist
  10:21am
Liz B.:

Here's a link to the Henry Rollins vid:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2010/11/henry_rollins_v.php
  10:21am
dc pat:

I hated Sandanista when I fist got it. Now it's one of my faves but that has nothing to do with how much I paid for it. That I don't get.
  10:24am
dc pat:

what about not caring if people like your music?
  10:26am
dc pat:

can we get a link to the article he's talking about too?
  10:26am
dc pat:

damn just saw the links...
  10:27am
Tom:

I liked Albini's comment about John Peel: "He said something once that I thought was really profound: He said that no one would bother making a record and sending it to him if they thought it was shitty. Obviously, to the people making those records, they are important. If he doesn't get it as a listener, if he didn't like it in some way, that's his fault, not the fault of the people who did something important to them."
  10:28am
Small Key:

As if bands that already eat crappy food on tour can now be supported by those same companies. Bring on McDonald's records. Micky D Raps.
  10:29am
joe:

this has been very illuminating, thank you jason & matt!
  10:29am
Lulu:

myspace is tacky.
  10:29am
rosh:

i respect bands/artists that make it difficult to find and even enjoy their music.There's nothing snobbish about having control over your music distro especially in this day & age of high accessibility.
  10:30am
bw:

great segment
  10:30am
dc pat:

I agree rosh. Great discussion though.
  10:30am
Cecile Cloutier:

dang I missed it. But I'll catch it as archives. Working at home is cool. Pierced Arrows!
  10:31am
Tom:

bw come home, mom n I miss you
  10:32am
bw:

tom: never comin back!
  10:34am
Bicklespume:

thought provoking conversation----not unimportant things to dwell on---- There will always be those in any age that consume music more than listen to it for what it is, with deeper feeling, and so forth, and those that will always feel music or bands/artists are simply adjuncts to their lifestyle, a sort of ephemeral accessory to what they wish to project themselves to be to X, at some particular time... This topic is easy to roll off into so many other vectors! Talks Cheap...Respect...!
  10:35am
rosh:

totally great discussion. nothing like a good old "the new medium is killing our old ways of music" discourse to set us nerds off @ 10 am. can't wait to read this Village Voice article.
  10:38am
Cheri Pi:

Love that My Teenage Stride lick.
  10:39am
jason:

@Small Key: there are some bands that fuel their vans on discarded grease from mcdonald's
  10:52am
rosh:

@jason:yeah but there's a huge difference b/w a band taking corporate waste(literally) & converting that into free fuel VS. corporations financing a band's release/tour/career. That said, Mickey D's DID put out a sick flexi...
  10:52am
jason:

...should i play some Neon Indian???
  10:57am
Dylan:

Another shoe-music tidbit from behind enemy lines: When I catered the Public Enemy "Vans House" opening party all the artists had to give a shout out to Vans. Chuck D: "Vans since 1966, I can get down with that!"
  11:05am
Cheri Pi:

NOOOOO! Play Indian Jewelry instead.
  11:06am
henry rollins:

what happened to me?
  11:07am
oh just relax:

Henry Rollins > The Cake Shop
  11:10am
BetterJudgment:

...you should probably play some "Who's Got The 10 1/2?"
  11:10am
jason:

imagine this song backwards...
  11:10am
henry rollins:

grammy award > henry rollins
  11:11am
henry rollins:

todd p > henry rollins
  11:11am
Cecile Cloutier:

Henry, I always call you "Hammering Hank" in my daily life. I think it fits.
  11:13am
Cheri Pi:

Is it me or did anyone else get an 'FMU magnet set in the mail?
  11:13am
God:

henry rollins is not god > henry rollins is god
  11:14am
Tom:

On my xmas list: http://www.sternsmusic.com/disk_info.php?id=3218462
  11:14am
Cecile Cloutier:

CHeri, I did! I was so excited. I put it with my FOTC magnets.
  11:15am
dc pat:

ah, I don't think that video's any big deal. That's Henry, either love him or leave him. His job is to make you feel uncomfortable.
  11:16am
dc pat:

so now let's hear Rise Above
  11:17am
Tom:

Yeah, Henry has been at it like that for years. And lifting weights.
  11:18am
Cecile Cloutier:

And telling some very funny stories.
  11:19am
Cheri Pi:

I want to put the Rocket ship magnet on my car, but I'm afraid the jealous neighbors will steal it.
  11:22am
Tom:

something else just made my xmas list!
  11:24am
Cecile Cloutier:

Is love an emoticon?

<3

Yes. Yes, it is.
  11:28am
Cheri Pi:

It's my favourite emoticon!
  11:31am
Tom:

Rollins biceps cannot be emoticonized.
  11:32am
holland oats:

i <3 emotion
  11:35am
rosh:

ugh,just saw the rollins thing.the woman he's reeming out is totally cool,smart,hard working punk woman.He totally attacked the least trust fund hipster kid there. i like rollins generally but damn,he's showing his knee jerk reactionary paranoia in that vid.
  11:38am
holland oats:

@rosh - link?
  11:38am
rosh:

here's one: http://stereogum.com/566652/henry-rollins-scolds-young-elitist-hipters-at-the-cake-shop/video/
  11:40am
dc pat:

rosh: I agree but she also defends herself ok against a pretty intimidating old fart.
  11:44am
Marcel:

Great set today. Perfect for the NY rainy scene
  11:44am
Cheri Pi:

This is the futuristic music I was promised in all of those Jetsons episodes.
  11:47am
holland oats:

@rosh - thnx - rollins, what a needledick douche - if only 'damaged' wasn't one of my favorite records of all time
  11:49am
Dylan:

EXCELLENT
  11:51am
jeff:

hey jason, hey matt. i've been in class all morning and still am, but i have made an imaginary version of this conversation in my mind and it is full of witty quips and pointed observations! in that order.
  11:57am
rosh:

dc pat: totally, but it's not about her reaction,it's that he got in her space,tells them to sshhh,and later says "counting down to where the chick mouths off". Love BF & even had pleasant exchanges with him but none of that excuses him being,as holland oats so eloquently stated, a needledick douche.
  11:57am
Cecile Cloutier:

Is that Steve Cauthen, the jockey?
  11:58am
Cecile Cloutier:

wow, that's a good little song.
  11:58am
dc pat:

well like I said, take him or leave him. This ain't nothing new for him.
  12:00pm
Cheri Pi:

Double Joe Preston today!
  12:00pm
rosh:

dc pat: sadly, i know this. i i take what i like & leave the rest. have a good one,everyone!
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