WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 17, 2019

Listener comments!
	9:00am kevlicki: Buenas Dias problemática
	♥ 9:03am Trouble: bueno kevlicki! hola to all whose ships sail upon the troubled ocean
	♥ 9:03am The Oscar: Mornin'! Nothing like some nice Thursday morning electronic spookiness.
	9:04am Jersey Cowboy: Smooth sailing - thanks captain!
	♥ 9:04am Webhamster Henry: Good modern world morning!
	♥ 9:04am Granny Spicy Tuna: i'm thoroughly intrigued…
	9:05am Colleen: OoOooOhhh.... haunted!
	♥ 9:05am Rich in Washington: Not even ten minutes into the show and I'm cllckin' stars like there's no tomorrow.
	9:05am John from Florham Park: Hello my fellow WFMU minions
	9:05am Dances with Moomins: Mornin Trouble! Snowy and cold in Finlandia, smart Moomis must be hibernating. Interesting sounds today!
	♥ 9:06am TDK60: Morning Trouble. This cut a bit eerie, but the title says it.
	9:08am sugarwolf: Hello Happy 75th birthday to Françoise Hardy!!!
	♥ 9:14am TDK60: ..gotta go to work soon, don't wanna...
	♥ 9:15am Trouble: merci for that info sugarwolf. will play lots of francoise later on today in honor!
	♥ 9:15am steveo: good morning; sounds so good in here
	9:15am John from Florham Park: @TDK got to go shopping too and I don’t want too either
	♥ 9:15am Granny Spicy Tuna: Why i love WFMU, reason #2,9654; i didn't even know until this minute that this is exactly what i wanted to listen to right Now.
	♥ 9:17am Granny Spicy Tuna: and don't try to tell me that 2,9654 is not a number. Trust me, I'm an unlicensed 'pataphysician.
	9:21am sphere: hello. who licenses 'pataphysicians anyways?
	♥ 9:22am melinda: hi Trouble and all!
	♥ 9:23am PKNY: I've seen this Abbey Lincoln record around and have always been curious on the "Golden Lady" cover, interesting jazz take on this. Jose Feliciano does a version that is stellar, as well.
	♥ 9:23am Roberto: Mornin' Troubs and Troublets!
	♥ 9:24am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, fine citizens of Troubleville!
	9:25am shake'nblue: morning all ~~ @Trouble thanks for painting this morning soundscape
	9:29am Dances with Moomins: Oh yeah!
	♥ 9:29am Granny Spicy Tuna: @sphere, if you find someone who licenses 'pataphysicians— RUN!!!
	9:29am Slaboch: Barbara Lynn turned 77 yesterday!
	♥ 9:32am Trouble: thank you @michael! i saw that and actually remembered to play her today, sort of a miracle for me, i always forget.
	♥ 9:32am Trouble: morning@stu!
	♥ 9:32am steveo: coraTHon
	♥ 9:33am steveo: nacida en León, España, en 1954
	9:37am Linda Lee: 1954? who?
	♥ 9:39am steveo: kiki
	♥ 9:39am steveo: qui? kiki.
	9:39am Linda Lee: i'm far too late to the show. Good morning Trouble & Moderns!
	♥ 9:45am TDK60: Linda, at least you're hear...
	♥ 9:45am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, such a pleasure to have your virtual, yet delightful, company…
	♥ 9:53am TDK60: ..gotta leaf for work...
	♥ 9:54am Granny Spicy Tuna: ciao, TDK60! Come back soon, ya hear?
	9:56am Dances with Moomins: @Granny Spice, your number 2,654 reason is why we're all here. Ms T plays stuff ( all the time !) that I didn't know I needed to hear and then time and again I (we ) think WOW , yeah... and we flow with the go. Kudos to Ms. T ( I say we buy her nice headphones !)
	♥ 9:59am quinn: I'm so excited, my childcare schedule has changed so now I am working at my computer during your show and I love it so much!
	♥ 9:59am Granny Spicy Tuna: @Dances with Moomins, yeah! I've been hearing complaints about the headphone situation since the move into the boxcar. These devoted DJs deserve the finest equipment! Care packages for all!!!
	♥ 10:00am Trouble: yeah! @quinn, glad to have you happy and listening in
	♥ 10:01am Trouble: thanks for thinking of my headphone needs@stu and granny, apparently i just need to stop complaining
	10:05am zpulpa: I am sadly late, but happily here now! Hello Trouble and friends!!
	10:06am Linda Lee: so long TDK60! good seeing you, Granny!
	10:07am prudy: love this excerpt...so accurate
	10:08am sphere: does this mean that only "true" literature is political?
	10:08am Linda Lee: god forbid we should find satisfaction in anything we only buy once! our dumbing down continues.
	♥ 10:08am melinda: I didn't know reading had a bad rap. But I know attention spans have diminished.
	10:09am sphere: "overtly" political, i mean.
	♥ 10:09am Granny Spicy Tuna: Alrighty, gennntly placing "Normal People" onto the to-read stack…
	10:09am prudy: how literature is used by some to generate "impressive" images of themselves
	10:09am PJ: Isn't the act of reading Sally Rooney's book just as much an act of showing status (I'm hip, I'm reading a Man Booker nominee!) as any other book? Personally, I read for pleasure and for education, and I don't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks about me because of the books I read. (Though, of course, they should be admiring me for my erudition.) I haven't read any of Rooney's books, but I have read excerpts, and her prose seems deadly dull. And I can't take anyone seriously who doesn't see the beauty in Yeats' poetry.
	10:10am Ochre Ogre: Reading is discovering.
	10:10am renbo: Hi all is anyone else having issues posting comments?
	10:11am prudy: can't take seriously any argument against reading
	10:11am Linda Lee: the reduced attention span is learned. increased attention span will also be learned. just have to intend it & also divorce from the other teaching intentionally.
	10:11am sphere: i'm not saying that we shouldn't be political. but if she accuses readers of being "false" because they are not politically active, does that mean only "true" readers believe like she does? <end>
	10:12am Linda Lee: we'll never get away from a writer's POV in their work! forget it! :-D
	10:14am Linda Lee: reading has never been performative for me & don't understand why it should be for anyone.
	10:15am PJ: @Linda Lee: the reduced attention span is, unfortunately, habituated and reinforced every day by the internet, and after (hopefully) people have moved on from Facebook and other destroyers of democracy, that habit will still remain to be broken, because the internet feeds on clicks, and we are like monkeys hoping to get that next blissful grape, if we just click through enough, we will get a millisecond of stimulus before the craving returns.
	10:16am Linda Lee: yep. agree. this is why unlearning habits of attention has to be intentional.
	10:17am Dances with Moomins: New bookcase arrived yesterday..Livingroom bookshelf library being re arranged. Need more books! Haven't read any authors because they won prizes.
	10:17am morphe: T... Taught NYC BOE for 26 years.. [1990-2016).. Alt. HS (17-21 year olds) So Bx then Bed Stuy. In the eARLY YEARS THE STUDENTS (NOT ALL, BUT A MAJORITY) GOT OVER THE RESISTANCE AND GOT INTO it: "Yo Mista, I finished that one can I get another(almost sheepishly as if it was another bowl of ice cream.)" Asking for extra books for the holidays/summer!!!As Jim Trealease said once: "Kids don't steal textbooks. Find out the most stolen novels in the school and buy tons!!!!!" Thanks for teaching and spinning = Everyday is Teachers' week!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sadly, in the end, Cell phones seemed to change a lot!! pss. Not a Luddite ..of my 5 daily classes - 3 Lit and 2 Photoshop.. but the cell phone and internet plagiarism has hurt teaching/reading in ways...
	10:17am BAsTasTas: Ultimate escape is only possible through eyes, mind and heart of someone else
	10:18am nondo: Let me just add that this diminishing attention span issue has been a target of critics since the times of the greeks or something like that.
	10:19am Linda Lee: for a decade plus i lived without connectivity at home, because i was one of 2% of new york state residents without access. you'll never believe what i did instead of clicky clicky! ~
	♥ 10:19am ifeelfatnsassy: This Jodi is lovely.
	♥ 10:23am ifeelfatnsassy: j/k... I meant the Michele Mercure. Reminded me of Dallas Acid.
	♥ 10:24am The Oscar: I read a thinkpiece the other day about how Marie Kondo's "30 books or less" strategy is bad because the point of having books is to display your personality to others, and it drove me crazy because I disagree vehemently with BOTH sides of that argument. When asked about my overflowing bookshelves (and DVD shelves, and CD/record shelves...), I tend to quote Harlan Ellison: "What good's a library where you've already read everything?"
	10:24am Linda Lee: i think heightened concerns about diminished attention spans are valid now (and new), because the influences on the way we process information are incredibly insidious.
	10:25am Greek immigrant: I was lost for a moment, I thought I was listening to Greek radio. I didn't expect to listen to Lena Platonos <3
	♥ 10:25am melinda: @Linda when you don't have internet access it's amazing what possibilities open up! When I don't have the attention for reading a book it's because of brain fog, but when I do I can really get into the book. So I feel like I'm not too far gone in spite of all the time I've spent online.
	10:27am Linda Lee: i think people are objecting to the Marie Kondo's methods of organization now 'cos it's cool :-D also think it's silly to assume that she intended a cookie-cutter application of her advice on de-cluttering. @melinda ~ tell me about the brain fog! it's hard to decipher the cause or the pattern of decreased attention span on my part, because of it.
	10:28am Linda Lee: somehow i sense it's the Lyme & co-infections. it just feels that way.
	♥ 10:28am Granny Spicy Tuna: What? I was distracted. Where were we? Clicky-clicky!
	10:29am Linda Lee: forgive me for posting 'the Marie Kondo'. that's not a noun really
	♥ 10:31am Granny Spicy Tuna: So are these opinions by Sally Rooney expressed in her interviews or just in her book? Are they hers or are they of her characters? I sure hope i am not held accountable for all of the crazed ideas and expressions of characters i've written.
	10:31am renbo: @Linda Lee I just saw your comment about not having access for 10+ years and not believing what you said you did but did you say what it was that you did? UsingH tech difficulties here ironically lol
	10:31am Linda Lee: i get the feeling that a total reset on the attention button might involve watching all episodes of 'An American Family'
	10:31am Dances with Moomins: books book are good for your heart, the more you read the more you smart!
	10:32am PJ: @Granny Spicy Tuna: In one of her interviews, Rooney talks about the freedom of using characters to express opinions that would not be taken so easily if she expressed them personally.
	10:33am Linda Lee: @renbo ~ i read a lot of books :-D
	10:34am morphe: LindaLee.. I did not imagine you were watching TV.. All innuendo intended.[Ouch, that almost sounds like Nintendo} NOR PLAYING NINTENDO!!!!!!!
	10:34am renbo: ... Don't change the subject but I thought I'd just mention that all the data leaks over the last few years have been arranged in a new and convenient leak listing then all in one ready easy place! SMH https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/data-breach-email-password-login-hack-safe-address-security-a8732326.html
	10:35am Linda Lee: the mountain valley where i lived without access is still only about 25% connected. the company that received a state grant to connect us basically bailed out without honoring the contract.
	♥ 10:36am Granny Spicy Tuna: PJ, ah, the old hand-puppet technique. I guess that's what fiction has been doing since the beginning. I just wondered how direct she was in her interview mode. The brief glimpses i've taken of reviews reveal a generational issue. As a "Gen-X" type, I have difficulties relating to "the snap-chat generation." I could read this as anthropology.
	10:36am Linda Lee: @morphe ~ no, no tv reception either without cable
	10:36am renbo: Is it attention span or shallowness and vanity top
	10:37am Linda Lee: that's right, you're about 10 years my junior! i was initially mistaken 'cos your name is Granny. everyone named Granny is older than i am.
	10:38am morphe: LindLee: that is what I said - not because of lack of TV...choice
	10:38am Linda Lee: @renbo ~ yes. :-D
	10:39am Linda Lee: @morphe ~ right.
	♥ 10:39am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, ha ha! I've been called Granny since i was in my early 20s, by friends older than me. It was all the knitting and baking i did in my thrift store dresses. Plus i liked to dress in Granny drag!
	10:39am Linda Lee: that's cute! :-)
	10:40am morphe: Granny... Trouble, Cranky Mary.. so many FMU names that seem contrary [Sorry Contrary Mary] Contrary to their souls/spirits!! thanks all..
	10:41am Linda Lee: you were talking about your thrift store dresses & clunky shoes recently. i was the generation ahead of you, in thrift store dresses & either ballet shoes, combat boots or pumps.
	♥ 10:41am Webhamster Henry: Indeed - I'm not a hamster at all! #bigreveal #outed
	10:41am Dances with Moomins: I wonder if authors ( as Ms. Rooney ) are acutely aware of publishers' rejection/acceptence of books that will or won't be sold well and are aware of marketers' view of the 'industry'. All this regardless of merit (of a manuscript if marketing wasn't a consideration). Perhaps I do feel smug because I read...dunno....sure ain't gonna stop now !
	10:42am Linda Lee: .. or Converse! forgot the Chuck Taylors!
	10:42am renbo: @Linda nice!! All thru the 90's we avoided tv like the scourge it is and cuz we dropped outs HS, we decided to read antiquated English literature. Probly no noticeable positive effects but now we speak antiquated English and don't quite ever fit in
	♥ 10:42am Granny Spicy Tuna: Oh, i did the taffeta skirts and combat boots combo, too. But was more likely to have Cyndi Lauper hair, Boy George makeup and an Annie Lennox suit.
	10:42am morphe: WebHamsterH: I am a morphe'
	10:43am still b/p: Lonnie always always good. The internationally-noted giant spinning ice disk in a river about four miles from me....has stopped spinning. You say there's no more revolutions, wellll, you know, we all want a viral whirl. If it had lasted long enough for a naming contest, I mighta suggested the Frozebee.
	♥ 10:43am Granny Spicy Tuna: You can see the pencil portrait of Granny here: thejasonmecier.com...
	10:43am prudy: LL: the internet company or companies who serve the catskills are scum. They SHOULD be treated as utilities, but basically the customer is at the whim of whatever they want to charge you, if you even can get service.
	10:44am Linda Lee: @ renbo ~ well honestly, who wants to 'fit in'? to what?
	♥ 10:46am βrian: I don't want to use Gillette, but that's only because I don't want to shave.
	10:46am renbo: @Linda Lee lol yes methinks one agree-eths
	10:46am Linda Lee: @Granny ~ oh sure! lots of us did that too! i went more for a shaved peach look (with or without tail) or i vacillated between both lead roles in Liquid Sky.
	10:47am Linda Lee: absolutely right, prudy.
	♥ 10:48am melinda: @Granny I like your approach of reading snap-chat gen fiction as anthropology. I'm afraid I might find it too depressing.
	10:49am PJ: @Dances with Moomins: Ms. Rooney seems acutely aware of what will sell and what will appeal to Millennial era/age critics (or those who want to appear "down" with the kids).
	10:49am Linda Lee: that's thrilling, Granny! beautiful work! he's good! now waiting for your site to load ..
	♥ 10:50am melinda: I thought the Gillette ad was kinda dumb. They're a razor company and doing something they think will sell product in a fakey, ham-fisted way.
	10:51am morphe: Have to pick up wee Simon from school... TILL!!!!!!!!!!
	10:52am Linda Lee: the main thing is to get the product name out there. so they've done that. their team at the ad agency is flyin' high!
	10:52am thedunkel: Good Morning Trouble - good morning all!
	10:52am zpulpa: As a younger listener I will have to say that I certainly feel very frustrated with the culture of less books and a deeper and more tightly knotted tie between folks social media selves and their, or our, other selves.... I think books play a really important part in the struggle out of a mechanical brain, but it takes practice, different from the lack of practice needed to fall into a clicky clicky hole.
	10:55am Linda Lee: @zpulpa ~ i'm with you. absolutely right. ~ folks who feel similarly are also rebelling against Marie Kondo's '30 books or less' as if they're being advised to take an arm off.
	10:57am zpulpa: I feel much more concerned with cutting my time scrolling on social media, or the internet generally than I do getting rid of the books that do nothing but motivate me to read! Marie Kondo really went viral this week, I think its a funny phenomena, seems like a good time to go to the thrift store...
	♥ 10:58am melinda: @zpulpa that's the spirit! She's on Netflix now, she won't go away!
	♥ 10:59am The Oscar: Ian Svenonius wrote an article a while back that articulates a lot of the issues I have with "minimalism chic" pretty well: www.jacobinmag.com...
	11:00am Polyus: Ah, this is the LeGuin recording I have been reading about. Very nice.
	11:00am Emily: Good morning Trouble! Am in and out of listening range this morning. So glad to hear selections from your wondrous world.
	11:01am zpulpa: “If you go home with somebody, and they don't have books, don't fuck 'em!” ― John Waters
	11:02am Linda Lee: i picked up her book last year when i was preparing to sell an immense farmhouse packed with 50+ years of belongings. read it & put it down. the pressure i was under to cull & release didn't allow for the contemplation she recommends. now that i wish to downsize again ~ from a home half the size ~ i'll read her again. i don't really think her work is about stuff, primarily. i think it's about consciousness.
	♥ 11:02am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, i took my site down last year. Hope to rebuild soon. There are plenty of articles and tv shows that feature Granny's Empire of Art and Jason Mecier's Pencilvania, though.
	♥ 11:03am melinda: I'm in unloading mode because I'm probably going to have to do mold remediation in my house, and my late husband was a book collector so there's much to sell/donate. But I love having more than 30 books and feel like I need to work at limiting the online activity so I can focus on the wonderful printed material I have. Not easy since online activity also fills a social void.
	11:03am Linda Lee: ah ok. good!
	11:04am Linda Lee: i see you now! fabulous! :-)
	♥ 11:04am The Oscar: I might feel even more strongly about keeping physical copies of movies-- the Netflix/streaming revolution has made it incredibly difficult to see a LOT of films that were pretty readily available just ten years ago. My friends joke that I stockpile DVDs like doomsday preppers hoard guns.
	11:05am Dances with Moomins: thanks to the moderns for views various and sundry . Thanks to Lady T for music for us to dream to . Merci!
	11:05am sugarwolf: I like what Iris Appel said "I love clutter. I think being totally minimal shows a lack of history and soul, and I find it sort of pitiful. I think it’s wonderful to have stuff and live with memories and things you enjoy"
	11:05am sugarwolf: APFEL
	♥ 11:06am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee: this article basically scooped up half the images from my old website! www.house-crazy.com...
	11:06am Linda Lee: @melinda ~ yes it does. typically, i think.
	11:07am still b/p: My parents house, where mom now is solo, is jammed, jammed jammed. And we fear that ultimately the task of sorting, saving, deciding...books and everything else...will be so massive that practicality will demand mostly large-scale disposal. A shame.
	11:09am zpulpa: @Granny Spicy Tuna, Amazing! thank you for sharing. Do you live there now? what has happened to this treasure?!
	11:10am Linda Lee: @sugarwolf ~ that's been my basic attitude ever since i could collect things by myself. now, at 58, it's all become just too heavy. the thought of releasing things i've gone to incredible lengths to hang on to, feels good. i'll be who i am, even if i have nearly nothing. i'm not my things.
	11:10am LizGig: Beth! Ben! Molly! Hello from Sheelagh na Gig bookshop! Thanks, Trouble, for having them on!
	11:11am Itzall Ablurr: The Oscar; to your friends I say "JUST YOU WAIT!" haha but I do the same and of course, still have a fairly extensive cache of movies on VHS, which still play "as good" as they ever did and are just as enjoyable, not to mention pretty hard to find now.
	♥ 11:12am melinda: @Oscar thanks for the Ian Svenonius link. On-point and funny.
	11:12am Linda Lee: @still b/p ~ this is the position i was in after inheriting the farmhouse & then ~ because one person does not need a 2400 sf farmhouse ~ selling it. the culling/disposal process took 3 or 4 months, going very easy.
	♥ 11:12am Granny Spicy Tuna: Yes, i live at Granny's when i am not hiding in the woods in the middle of the Salish Sea. I'm about to return to Granny's and if any kind WFMU folx are ever in the city by the bay, come on over for a tour and tea.
	11:14am Linda Lee: Granny, that's lovely! also interesting how a communal project develops a very clear aesthetic.
	♥ 11:16am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, i am sure you would appreciate many elements of that whole wacky scene. I think it is because my friends love me and wanted to create an environment that i would feel happy in.
	♥ 11:17am Granny Spicy Tuna: And now that most of my friends have had to move away from SF, it is THEIR home when they come to town (whether i am there or not).
	11:18am Linda Lee: i know i'd love it. absolutely.
	11:20am Linda Lee: i like the Jacobin article fine. dictated behavior either way? resist. it is all about self-determination & avoiding sheep-like behavior, after all. to thine own self be true! know why you do what you do. think about it.
	11:21am zpulpa: @Granny Spicy Tuna, A dear friend of mine in College grew up on Potrero Hill and I stayed there for a couple months one winter. It was so beautiful and so much nice light!
	11:22am hendrix wolfbat: Aw drat no atlanta dates. Love your concept. So brilliant.
	♥ 11:22am Granny Spicy Tuna: zpulpa, Potero Hill is indeed a sweet sunny spot in the foggy city. It used to be so sleepy and undiscovered, but those days are over.
	11:22am hendrix wolfbat: And the song you played was so lovely
	11:23am LizGig: Bookshop Band, any chance of We Are the Foxes?
	11:23am Linda Lee: @Granny ~ have your friends run from hyper-gentrification? we've left nyc for the same reasons.
	11:26am Linda Lee: i left, most decisively, because i feared for my life there, but the full scale transformation of my home town from habitat to investment asset helped.
	♥ 11:27am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, yes, most of my friends could not sustain living in SF. The ones that remain have rent control and cunning frugality.
	♥ 11:29am Granny Spicy Tuna: If i hadn't have bought that house in 97, i would have left long ago. If the house weren't such a unique treasure, i would have sold it by now.
	♥ 11:33am The Oscar: On a related note (to both the interview and the conversation at hand), if anyone gets a chance I highly recommend the Montague Book Mill out in western Mass. It's a converted 19th century paper mill on a river in the woods filled with used books, plus a gallery, a cafe/restaurant, and a record store. Really special place.
	11:33am otto: Bookstore Plus in Lake Placid, NY!
	11:34am SueAdynamo: who's this Lynn person??
	11:35am otto: (p.s. love the tunes - thanks! Happy trails!)
	11:36am Johnzon: these folk are way better than the shoeshop band
	♥ 11:37am Granny Spicy Tuna: I would like to walk into a bookshop and hear this.
	11:40am Andy the painter: hi trouble: is there an english translation of the francoise hardy bio you recommended last week?
	♥ 11:41am Granny Spicy Tuna: The Oscar—putting Montague Bookmill on the itinerary for my next trip out East…
	♥ 11:43am Passaic River Blues: @Andy: yes, there is. The title is "The Despair of the Monkeys and Other Trifles". Here's a review from the Guardian: www.theguardian.com...
	11:44am Emily: Saw the film "Never Look Away," loosely based on the life of Gerhard Richter. When the young painter leaves the East for Frankfurt/Dusseldorf, to show that he's in a hipper culture Francois Hardy is played in the art studios.
	♥ 11:44am Rich in Washington: I can't really understand a word of French but I could listen to Francoise Hardy all day.
	11:44am PJ: Four FH songs - I hope she didn't die
	11:44am Linda Lee: good to know about the mill! if gentrification drives me from my area ~ for the 5th time ~ i'll be looking for a viable creative community that still offers space for actual creation. shall i look out that way?
	11:44am jayjay: @ PJ I believe it is her birthday.
	11:45am Andy the painter: @PRB. thanks! great title.
	11:45am Linda Lee: this is her birthday, PJ!
	11:45am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Linda Lee-you live in NYC right? May I ask (again) what area?
	♥ 11:45am Rich in Washington: PJ: I was thinking the same thing (still in shock from learning about Bowie's passing via WFMU playlist) so I Googled her.
	11:45am PJ: @jayjay, @Linda Lee: Phew!
	11:46am Linda Lee: @Wild Neil ~ no, i don't live there any more. 30 years was all the time allowed. i'm in the catskills now.
	♥ 11:46am βrian: My wife has mentioned the Montague Bookmill a number of times. She really loves it.
	♥ 11:49am Granny Spicy Tuna: Rich in Washington, and any other PNWers— Shakespeare and Co, off the I-5 in Chehalis, is one of the sweetest bookstore cafes i've ever enjoyed. Chehalis?!??!?!? (As someone who grew up in Longview/Kelso, i cannot believe it)
	11:50am zpulpa: There is a lovely musical and artistic community in the Turner's Falls MA area near the great Book Mill! I think about moving there from time to time.
	♥ 11:51am βrian: Many pictures: www.google.com...
	11:51am Linda Lee: i'll never forget finding a Francoise Hardy disque at a thrift store in the 90s ~ the record had been lived in and on. the jacket was destroyed. it still played, however & i was also smitten!
	♥ 11:51am The Oscar: @LL Definitely worth a look-- there's probably some gentrification out there too, but the Pioneer Valley and surrounding areas are still home to a lot of funky/artsy types. Relatively affordable, too (at least compared to Boston)-- if and when my gf and I settle down and look into homeownership, there's a good chance that's where we'll land :)
	♥ 11:51am βrian: Ach, that URL got mangled.
	11:52am Johnzon: @linda my friend lives in Turner's Falls/Montague... he said it's where most of the young artsy folk are moving in that part of MA. He's in a couple of bands: https://theearcadians.bandcamp.com/album/the-third-testament this is a country album he made last year: https://sweatenzo.bandcamp.com/album/kisses-in-the-wind he's also Sam the Appraiser's cousin. he also described Montague as the least white town in the area and it sounds like there are some deals real estate wise. Im hoping to visit this summer.
	♥ 11:52am βrian: This should work: tinyurl.com...
	11:53am Linda Lee: googling Turner's Mills .. Pioneer Valley. least white is promising! please, America, don't make me leave the country for affordable workspace!
	♥ 11:54am Rich in Washington: @Granny Spicy Tuna: Thanks! The missus and I are planning a sweep across that part of our state! We're on the hunt for uncharted mom n' pop thrift stores, bookstores, high strangeness...
	11:54am Johnzon: if you wanna be part of an earlier wave of gentrification/pre-gentrification proper bohemianism lol... probably the place to go
	♥ 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, may the right place at the right time make itself available to you with ease and grace
	♥ 11:55am Granny Spicy Tuna: Rich in WA—Oooh, i'll bet Chehalis has some thriftstore magick!
	11:55am Linda Lee: @Johnzon ~ thanks. it's what i'm used to. i've been gentrified out of 4 different neighborhoods since the '70s & i'm working on the 5th.
	♥ 11:55am Rich in Washington: Lived in the state of Washington almost my entire live and have never really explored anywhere between here and Seattle. Most of my explorations, recreating have taken place South of here, Portland, etc.
	11:55am Johnzon: tho another friend recommended Montevideo Uruguay for artists
	11:56am ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ: Bon matin Troublette! Just tuning in on the Left Coast but will listening on the Archives as always.
	11:56am Linda Lee: thank you, Granny. may we all find our proper place in this world.
	♥ 11:56am Trouble: thanks for sitting in this morning, tell your friends all about the bookshop band and their tour!
	11:56am John from Florham Park: Linda lee and the rest of the group this is why I love listening to WFMU, it has turned me on to some very fine music and and just reading the chats make me think what a wonderful group you all are snd the fact you can hear all about other things besides music
	11:57am Linda Lee: thank you for a beautiful show, Trouble! you're a blessing.
	11:57am zpulpa: Thank you Trouble!!!
	11:57am Linda Lee: no one-trick ponies, are we! :-D
	♥ 11:57am Ken From Hyde Park: The state of the Trouble is good.
	♥ 11:58am Passaic River Blues: Thank you, Trouble! Loving this little Francoise retrospective as this week's TMW denouement!
	♥ 11:58am Granny Spicy Tuna: Rich in WA—ooh, so much to discover! My guess is all that Chehalis/Centralia area has some weird old lingering strangeness by the banks of the Skookumchuck.
	11:58am Linda Lee: i've always lived there, myself, Ken!
	11:59am Santos L Halper: Merci pour l’Hardy! Finally got round to checking her out lately, after hearing her here for years. Got the Vogue years comp and a 5 disc set. Superbe!
	♥ 11:59am Rich in Washington: Thanks, Trouble! I sure do love and look forward to your show each and every week.
	11:59am Itzall Ablurr: Thanks Trouble, happy birthday, Francoise!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 17, 2019

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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January 17, 2019: free traffic with a visit from The Bookshop Band

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
attilio mineo	man in art "man in art" by "attilio mineo"	Incantations For Tape: Precocious Noise & Early Electronica Part 1	sound miracle			*	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
caretaker	malign forces of the occult	A Stairway to the Stars					0:10:42 (Pop-up)
sam spence	waterworld "waterworld" by "sam spence"	cloud cuckoo land v/a 20 garish quills from the plumage of krautrock v/a	b-music				0:14:18 (Pop-up)
pierre porte	love is all "love is all" by "pierre porte"	cosmic machine the sequel v/a a voyage across french avant garde 70-80's					0:16:35 (Pop-up)
michel polnareff	le bal des laze "le bal des laze" by "michel polnareff"	Paris In the Spring v/a	ace				0:22:53 (Pop-up)
abbey lincoln	golden lady "golden lady" by "abbey lincoln"	golden lady					0:26:26 (Pop-up)
barbara lynn	you'll lose a good thing		munster records			*	0:34:23 (Pop-up)
kiki d'aki	tiempo de amar "tiempo de amar" by "kiki d'aki"	breve encuentro	munster			*	0:36:52 (Pop-up)

doug carn	revelation "revelation" by "doug carn"	revelation					0:46:28 (Pop-up)
eartheater	curtains "curtains" by "eartheater"	Irisiri	pan			*	0:50:21 (Pop-up)
kate glavey	i watched you run "i watched you run" by "kate glavey"	in winter	kate glavey			*	0:53:25 (Pop-up)
laura gibson	tenderness "tenderness" by "laura gibson"	goners	barsuk				1:00:19 (Pop-up)
asnakech worku	sak bleh askegn "sak bleh askegn" by "asnakech worku"	asnakech	awesome tapes from africa				1:03:53 (Pop-up)

the vegetable orchestra	hyperroots	green album	transacoustic research			*	1:15:11 (Pop-up)
eyedress	Toxic Masculinity "Toxic Masculinity" by "eyedress"	sensitive G	lex records			*	1:18:34 (Pop-up)
jodi	night dreamer "night dreamer" by "jodi"	pop espontaneo	out-sider			*	1:20:20 (Pop-up)
michele mercure	time piece "time piece" by "michele mercure"	beside herself	RVNG intl			*	1:27:48 (Pop-up)
Lena Platonos	romanian immigrants	gallop	dark entries	1985			1:28:27 (Pop-up)
gabi	naked "naked" by "gabi"	empty me	double double whammy			*	1:32:03 (Pop-up)
sarah louise	rime "rime" by "sarah louise"	nightime birds and morning stars	thrill jockey			*	1:35:29 (Pop-up)
hamilton yarns	becoming "becoming" by "hamilton yarns"	shadow of the hill	hark!			*	1:39:00 (Pop-up)
lonnie hollie	there was always water	MITH	Jagjaguwar			*	1:42:59 (Pop-up)

Manolo De Badajoz	danza mora "danza mora" by "Manolo De Badajoz"	Take A Knife And Open My Heart (V.A.)	sound miracle			*	1:53:23 (Pop-up)
lido pimienta	humano ( el buho remix)	Tributaries: A Remix Album (V/A)	Wonderwheel Recordings			*	1:55:37 (Pop-up)
lucrecia dalt	atmosperes touch/ "atmosperes touch/" by "lucrecia dalt"	anticlines	RVNG Intl			*	2:00:05 (Pop-up)
ursula k leguin & todd barton	dragonfly song	music and poetry of the kesh label	RVNH intl	1985		*	2:04:36 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ:	"interviewing the bookshop band"				interviewing the bookshop band		2:10:48 (Pop-up)
the bookshop band	once upon a time	curious and curiouser	the bookshop band				2:20:34 (Pop-up)
bookshop band	interview "interview" by "bookshop band"						2:30:40 (Pop-up)
the bookshop band	the other side "the other side" by "the bookshop band"	curious and curiouser					2:30:26 (Pop-up)
the bookshop band	interview "interview" by "the bookshop band"						2:38:02 (Pop-up)
the bookshop band	curious and curiouser	curious and curiouser					2:41:04 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	tous les garcons et les filles				happy 75th birthday!		2:44:50 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	mon monde n'est pas vrai						2:47:57 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	ton meilleur ami "ton meilleur ami" by "francoise hardy"						2:48:47 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	ce n'est pas un reve						2:51:48 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	Je Veux Qu'Il Revienne						2:55:11 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	la fin de l'ete "la fin de l'ete" by "francoise hardy"						2:57:53 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	oui je dis adieu "oui je dis adieu" by "francoise hardy"						3:00:26 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	Comment te dire adieu						3:04:18 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:00am kevlicki: Buenas Dias problemática
	♥ 9:03am Trouble: bueno kevlicki! hola to all whose ships sail upon the troubled ocean
	♥ 9:03am The Oscar: Mornin'! Nothing like some nice Thursday morning electronic spookiness.
	9:04am Jersey Cowboy: Smooth sailing - thanks captain!
	♥ 9:04am Webhamster Henry: Good modern world morning!
	♥ 9:04am Granny Spicy Tuna: i'm thoroughly intrigued…
	9:05am Colleen: OoOooOhhh.... haunted!
	♥ 9:05am Rich in Washington: Not even ten minutes into the show and I'm cllckin' stars like there's no tomorrow.
	9:05am John from Florham Park: Hello my fellow WFMU minions
	9:05am Dances with Moomins: Mornin Trouble! Snowy and cold in Finlandia, smart Moomis must be hibernating. Interesting sounds today!
	♥ 9:06am TDK60: Morning Trouble. This cut a bit eerie, but the title says it.
	9:08am sugarwolf: Hello Happy 75th birthday to Françoise Hardy!!!
	♥ 9:14am TDK60: ..gotta go to work soon, don't wanna...
	♥ 9:15am Trouble: merci for that info sugarwolf. will play lots of francoise later on today in honor!
	♥ 9:15am steveo: good morning; sounds so good in here
	9:15am John from Florham Park: @TDK got to go shopping too and I don’t want too either
	♥ 9:15am Granny Spicy Tuna: Why i love WFMU, reason #2,9654; i didn't even know until this minute that this is exactly what i wanted to listen to right Now.
	♥ 9:17am Granny Spicy Tuna: and don't try to tell me that 2,9654 is not a number. Trust me, I'm an unlicensed 'pataphysician.
	9:21am sphere: hello. who licenses 'pataphysicians anyways?
	♥ 9:22am melinda: hi Trouble and all!
	♥ 9:23am PKNY: I've seen this Abbey Lincoln record around and have always been curious on the "Golden Lady" cover, interesting jazz take on this. Jose Feliciano does a version that is stellar, as well.
	♥ 9:23am Roberto: Mornin' Troubs and Troublets!
	♥ 9:24am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, fine citizens of Troubleville!
	9:25am shake'nblue: morning all ~~ @Trouble thanks for painting this morning soundscape
	9:29am Dances with Moomins: Oh yeah!
	♥ 9:29am Granny Spicy Tuna: @sphere, if you find someone who licenses 'pataphysicians— RUN!!!
	9:29am Slaboch: Barbara Lynn turned 77 yesterday!
	♥ 9:32am Trouble: thank you @michael! i saw that and actually remembered to play her today, sort of a miracle for me, i always forget.
	♥ 9:32am Trouble: morning@stu!
	♥ 9:32am steveo: coraTHon
	♥ 9:33am steveo: nacida en León, España, en 1954
	9:37am Linda Lee: 1954? who?
	♥ 9:39am steveo: kiki
	♥ 9:39am steveo: qui? kiki.
	9:39am Linda Lee: i'm far too late to the show. Good morning Trouble & Moderns!
	♥ 9:45am TDK60: Linda, at least you're hear...
	♥ 9:45am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, such a pleasure to have your virtual, yet delightful, company…
	♥ 9:53am TDK60: ..gotta leaf for work...
	♥ 9:54am Granny Spicy Tuna: ciao, TDK60! Come back soon, ya hear?
	9:56am Dances with Moomins: @Granny Spice, your number 2,654 reason is why we're all here. Ms T plays stuff ( all the time !) that I didn't know I needed to hear and then time and again I (we ) think WOW , yeah... and we flow with the go. Kudos to Ms. T ( I say we buy her nice headphones !)
	♥ 9:59am quinn: I'm so excited, my childcare schedule has changed so now I am working at my computer during your show and I love it so much!
	♥ 9:59am Granny Spicy Tuna: @Dances with Moomins, yeah! I've been hearing complaints about the headphone situation since the move into the boxcar. These devoted DJs deserve the finest equipment! Care packages for all!!!
	♥ 10:00am Trouble: yeah! @quinn, glad to have you happy and listening in
	♥ 10:01am Trouble: thanks for thinking of my headphone needs@stu and granny, apparently i just need to stop complaining
	10:05am zpulpa: I am sadly late, but happily here now! Hello Trouble and friends!!
	10:06am Linda Lee: so long TDK60! good seeing you, Granny!
	10:07am prudy: love this excerpt...so accurate
	10:08am sphere: does this mean that only "true" literature is political?
	10:08am Linda Lee: god forbid we should find satisfaction in anything we only buy once! our dumbing down continues.
	♥ 10:08am melinda: I didn't know reading had a bad rap. But I know attention spans have diminished.
	10:09am sphere: "overtly" political, i mean.
	♥ 10:09am Granny Spicy Tuna: Alrighty, gennntly placing "Normal People" onto the to-read stack…
	10:09am prudy: how literature is used by some to generate "impressive" images of themselves
	10:09am PJ: Isn't the act of reading Sally Rooney's book just as much an act of showing status (I'm hip, I'm reading a Man Booker nominee!) as any other book? Personally, I read for pleasure and for education, and I don't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks about me because of the books I read. (Though, of course, they should be admiring me for my erudition.) I haven't read any of Rooney's books, but I have read excerpts, and her prose seems deadly dull. And I can't take anyone seriously who doesn't see the beauty in Yeats' poetry.
	10:10am Ochre Ogre: Reading is discovering.
	10:10am renbo: Hi all is anyone else having issues posting comments?
	10:11am prudy: can't take seriously any argument against reading
	10:11am Linda Lee: the reduced attention span is learned. increased attention span will also be learned. just have to intend it & also divorce from the other teaching intentionally.
	10:11am sphere: i'm not saying that we shouldn't be political. but if she accuses readers of being "false" because they are not politically active, does that mean only "true" readers believe like she does? <end>
	10:12am Linda Lee: we'll never get away from a writer's POV in their work! forget it! :-D
	10:14am Linda Lee: reading has never been performative for me & don't understand why it should be for anyone.
	10:15am PJ: @Linda Lee: the reduced attention span is, unfortunately, habituated and reinforced every day by the internet, and after (hopefully) people have moved on from Facebook and other destroyers of democracy, that habit will still remain to be broken, because the internet feeds on clicks, and we are like monkeys hoping to get that next blissful grape, if we just click through enough, we will get a millisecond of stimulus before the craving returns.
	10:16am Linda Lee: yep. agree. this is why unlearning habits of attention has to be intentional.
	10:17am Dances with Moomins: New bookcase arrived yesterday..Livingroom bookshelf library being re arranged. Need more books! Haven't read any authors because they won prizes.
	10:17am morphe: T... Taught NYC BOE for 26 years.. [1990-2016).. Alt. HS (17-21 year olds) So Bx then Bed Stuy. In the eARLY YEARS THE STUDENTS (NOT ALL, BUT A MAJORITY) GOT OVER THE RESISTANCE AND GOT INTO it: "Yo Mista, I finished that one can I get another(almost sheepishly as if it was another bowl of ice cream.)" Asking for extra books for the holidays/summer!!!As Jim Trealease said once: "Kids don't steal textbooks. Find out the most stolen novels in the school and buy tons!!!!!" Thanks for teaching and spinning = Everyday is Teachers' week!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sadly, in the end, Cell phones seemed to change a lot!! pss. Not a Luddite ..of my 5 daily classes - 3 Lit and 2 Photoshop.. but the cell phone and internet plagiarism has hurt teaching/reading in ways...
	10:17am BAsTasTas: Ultimate escape is only possible through eyes, mind and heart of someone else
	10:18am nondo: Let me just add that this diminishing attention span issue has been a target of critics since the times of the greeks or something like that.
	10:19am Linda Lee: for a decade plus i lived without connectivity at home, because i was one of 2% of new york state residents without access. you'll never believe what i did instead of clicky clicky! ~
	♥ 10:19am ifeelfatnsassy: This Jodi is lovely.
	♥ 10:23am ifeelfatnsassy: j/k... I meant the Michele Mercure. Reminded me of Dallas Acid.
	♥ 10:24am The Oscar: I read a thinkpiece the other day about how Marie Kondo's "30 books or less" strategy is bad because the point of having books is to display your personality to others, and it drove me crazy because I disagree vehemently with BOTH sides of that argument. When asked about my overflowing bookshelves (and DVD shelves, and CD/record shelves...), I tend to quote Harlan Ellison: "What good's a library where you've already read everything?"
	10:24am Linda Lee: i think heightened concerns about diminished attention spans are valid now (and new), because the influences on the way we process information are incredibly insidious.
	10:25am Greek immigrant: I was lost for a moment, I thought I was listening to Greek radio. I didn't expect to listen to Lena Platonos <3
	♥ 10:25am melinda: @Linda when you don't have internet access it's amazing what possibilities open up! When I don't have the attention for reading a book it's because of brain fog, but when I do I can really get into the book. So I feel like I'm not too far gone in spite of all the time I've spent online.
	10:27am Linda Lee: i think people are objecting to the Marie Kondo's methods of organization now 'cos it's cool :-D also think it's silly to assume that she intended a cookie-cutter application of her advice on de-cluttering. @melinda ~ tell me about the brain fog! it's hard to decipher the cause or the pattern of decreased attention span on my part, because of it.
	10:28am Linda Lee: somehow i sense it's the Lyme & co-infections. it just feels that way.
	♥ 10:28am Granny Spicy Tuna: What? I was distracted. Where were we? Clicky-clicky!
	10:29am Linda Lee: forgive me for posting 'the Marie Kondo'. that's not a noun really
	♥ 10:31am Granny Spicy Tuna: So are these opinions by Sally Rooney expressed in her interviews or just in her book? Are they hers or are they of her characters? I sure hope i am not held accountable for all of the crazed ideas and expressions of characters i've written.
	10:31am renbo: @Linda Lee I just saw your comment about not having access for 10+ years and not believing what you said you did but did you say what it was that you did? UsingH tech difficulties here ironically lol
	10:31am Linda Lee: i get the feeling that a total reset on the attention button might involve watching all episodes of 'An American Family'
	10:31am Dances with Moomins: books book are good for your heart, the more you read the more you smart!
	10:32am PJ: @Granny Spicy Tuna: In one of her interviews, Rooney talks about the freedom of using characters to express opinions that would not be taken so easily if she expressed them personally.
	10:33am Linda Lee: @renbo ~ i read a lot of books :-D
	10:34am morphe: LindaLee.. I did not imagine you were watching TV.. All innuendo intended.[Ouch, that almost sounds like Nintendo} NOR PLAYING NINTENDO!!!!!!!
	10:34am renbo: ... Don't change the subject but I thought I'd just mention that all the data leaks over the last few years have been arranged in a new and convenient leak listing then all in one ready easy place! SMH https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/data-breach-email-password-login-hack-safe-address-security-a8732326.html
	10:35am Linda Lee: the mountain valley where i lived without access is still only about 25% connected. the company that received a state grant to connect us basically bailed out without honoring the contract.
	♥ 10:36am Granny Spicy Tuna: PJ, ah, the old hand-puppet technique. I guess that's what fiction has been doing since the beginning. I just wondered how direct she was in her interview mode. The brief glimpses i've taken of reviews reveal a generational issue. As a "Gen-X" type, I have difficulties relating to "the snap-chat generation." I could read this as anthropology.
	10:36am Linda Lee: @morphe ~ no, no tv reception either without cable
	10:36am renbo: Is it attention span or shallowness and vanity top
	10:37am Linda Lee: that's right, you're about 10 years my junior! i was initially mistaken 'cos your name is Granny. everyone named Granny is older than i am.
	10:38am morphe: LindLee: that is what I said - not because of lack of TV...choice
	10:38am Linda Lee: @renbo ~ yes. :-D
	10:39am Linda Lee: @morphe ~ right.
	♥ 10:39am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, ha ha! I've been called Granny since i was in my early 20s, by friends older than me. It was all the knitting and baking i did in my thrift store dresses. Plus i liked to dress in Granny drag!
	10:39am Linda Lee: that's cute! :-)
	10:40am morphe: Granny... Trouble, Cranky Mary.. so many FMU names that seem contrary [Sorry Contrary Mary] Contrary to their souls/spirits!! thanks all..
	10:41am Linda Lee: you were talking about your thrift store dresses & clunky shoes recently. i was the generation ahead of you, in thrift store dresses & either ballet shoes, combat boots or pumps.
	♥ 10:41am Webhamster Henry: Indeed - I'm not a hamster at all! #bigreveal #outed
	10:41am Dances with Moomins: I wonder if authors ( as Ms. Rooney ) are acutely aware of publishers' rejection/acceptence of books that will or won't be sold well and are aware of marketers' view of the 'industry'. All this regardless of merit (of a manuscript if marketing wasn't a consideration). Perhaps I do feel smug because I read...dunno....sure ain't gonna stop now !
	10:42am Linda Lee: .. or Converse! forgot the Chuck Taylors!
	10:42am renbo: @Linda nice!! All thru the 90's we avoided tv like the scourge it is and cuz we dropped outs HS, we decided to read antiquated English literature. Probly no noticeable positive effects but now we speak antiquated English and don't quite ever fit in
	♥ 10:42am Granny Spicy Tuna: Oh, i did the taffeta skirts and combat boots combo, too. But was more likely to have Cyndi Lauper hair, Boy George makeup and an Annie Lennox suit.
	10:42am morphe: WebHamsterH: I am a morphe'
	10:43am still b/p: Lonnie always always good. The internationally-noted giant spinning ice disk in a river about four miles from me....has stopped spinning. You say there's no more revolutions, wellll, you know, we all want a viral whirl. If it had lasted long enough for a naming contest, I mighta suggested the Frozebee.
	♥ 10:43am Granny Spicy Tuna: You can see the pencil portrait of Granny here: thejasonmecier.com...
	10:43am prudy: LL: the internet company or companies who serve the catskills are scum. They SHOULD be treated as utilities, but basically the customer is at the whim of whatever they want to charge you, if you even can get service.
	10:44am Linda Lee: @ renbo ~ well honestly, who wants to 'fit in'? to what?
	♥ 10:46am βrian: I don't want to use Gillette, but that's only because I don't want to shave.
	10:46am renbo: @Linda Lee lol yes methinks one agree-eths
	10:46am Linda Lee: @Granny ~ oh sure! lots of us did that too! i went more for a shaved peach look (with or without tail) or i vacillated between both lead roles in Liquid Sky.
	10:47am Linda Lee: absolutely right, prudy.
	♥ 10:48am melinda: @Granny I like your approach of reading snap-chat gen fiction as anthropology. I'm afraid I might find it too depressing.
	10:49am PJ: @Dances with Moomins: Ms. Rooney seems acutely aware of what will sell and what will appeal to Millennial era/age critics (or those who want to appear "down" with the kids).
	10:49am Linda Lee: that's thrilling, Granny! beautiful work! he's good! now waiting for your site to load ..
	♥ 10:50am melinda: I thought the Gillette ad was kinda dumb. They're a razor company and doing something they think will sell product in a fakey, ham-fisted way.
	10:51am morphe: Have to pick up wee Simon from school... TILL!!!!!!!!!!
	10:52am Linda Lee: the main thing is to get the product name out there. so they've done that. their team at the ad agency is flyin' high!
	10:52am thedunkel: Good Morning Trouble - good morning all!
	10:52am zpulpa: As a younger listener I will have to say that I certainly feel very frustrated with the culture of less books and a deeper and more tightly knotted tie between folks social media selves and their, or our, other selves.... I think books play a really important part in the struggle out of a mechanical brain, but it takes practice, different from the lack of practice needed to fall into a clicky clicky hole.
	10:55am Linda Lee: @zpulpa ~ i'm with you. absolutely right. ~ folks who feel similarly are also rebelling against Marie Kondo's '30 books or less' as if they're being advised to take an arm off.
	10:57am zpulpa: I feel much more concerned with cutting my time scrolling on social media, or the internet generally than I do getting rid of the books that do nothing but motivate me to read! Marie Kondo really went viral this week, I think its a funny phenomena, seems like a good time to go to the thrift store...
	♥ 10:58am melinda: @zpulpa that's the spirit! She's on Netflix now, she won't go away!
	♥ 10:59am The Oscar: Ian Svenonius wrote an article a while back that articulates a lot of the issues I have with "minimalism chic" pretty well: www.jacobinmag.com...
	11:00am Polyus: Ah, this is the LeGuin recording I have been reading about. Very nice.
	11:00am Emily: Good morning Trouble! Am in and out of listening range this morning. So glad to hear selections from your wondrous world.
	11:01am zpulpa: “If you go home with somebody, and they don't have books, don't fuck 'em!” ― John Waters
	11:02am Linda Lee: i picked up her book last year when i was preparing to sell an immense farmhouse packed with 50+ years of belongings. read it & put it down. the pressure i was under to cull & release didn't allow for the contemplation she recommends. now that i wish to downsize again ~ from a home half the size ~ i'll read her again. i don't really think her work is about stuff, primarily. i think it's about consciousness.
	♥ 11:02am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, i took my site down last year. Hope to rebuild soon. There are plenty of articles and tv shows that feature Granny's Empire of Art and Jason Mecier's Pencilvania, though.
	♥ 11:03am melinda: I'm in unloading mode because I'm probably going to have to do mold remediation in my house, and my late husband was a book collector so there's much to sell/donate. But I love having more than 30 books and feel like I need to work at limiting the online activity so I can focus on the wonderful printed material I have. Not easy since online activity also fills a social void.
	11:03am Linda Lee: ah ok. good!
	11:04am Linda Lee: i see you now! fabulous! :-)
	♥ 11:04am The Oscar: I might feel even more strongly about keeping physical copies of movies-- the Netflix/streaming revolution has made it incredibly difficult to see a LOT of films that were pretty readily available just ten years ago. My friends joke that I stockpile DVDs like doomsday preppers hoard guns.
	11:05am Dances with Moomins: thanks to the moderns for views various and sundry . Thanks to Lady T for music for us to dream to . Merci!
	11:05am sugarwolf: I like what Iris Appel said "I love clutter. I think being totally minimal shows a lack of history and soul, and I find it sort of pitiful. I think it’s wonderful to have stuff and live with memories and things you enjoy"
	11:05am sugarwolf: APFEL
	♥ 11:06am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee: this article basically scooped up half the images from my old website! www.house-crazy.com...
	11:06am Linda Lee: @melinda ~ yes it does. typically, i think.
	11:07am still b/p: My parents house, where mom now is solo, is jammed, jammed jammed. And we fear that ultimately the task of sorting, saving, deciding...books and everything else...will be so massive that practicality will demand mostly large-scale disposal. A shame.
	11:09am zpulpa: @Granny Spicy Tuna, Amazing! thank you for sharing. Do you live there now? what has happened to this treasure?!
	11:10am Linda Lee: @sugarwolf ~ that's been my basic attitude ever since i could collect things by myself. now, at 58, it's all become just too heavy. the thought of releasing things i've gone to incredible lengths to hang on to, feels good. i'll be who i am, even if i have nearly nothing. i'm not my things.
	11:10am LizGig: Beth! Ben! Molly! Hello from Sheelagh na Gig bookshop! Thanks, Trouble, for having them on!
	11:11am Itzall Ablurr: The Oscar; to your friends I say "JUST YOU WAIT!" haha but I do the same and of course, still have a fairly extensive cache of movies on VHS, which still play "as good" as they ever did and are just as enjoyable, not to mention pretty hard to find now.
	♥ 11:12am melinda: @Oscar thanks for the Ian Svenonius link. On-point and funny.
	11:12am Linda Lee: @still b/p ~ this is the position i was in after inheriting the farmhouse & then ~ because one person does not need a 2400 sf farmhouse ~ selling it. the culling/disposal process took 3 or 4 months, going very easy.
	♥ 11:12am Granny Spicy Tuna: Yes, i live at Granny's when i am not hiding in the woods in the middle of the Salish Sea. I'm about to return to Granny's and if any kind WFMU folx are ever in the city by the bay, come on over for a tour and tea.
	11:14am Linda Lee: Granny, that's lovely! also interesting how a communal project develops a very clear aesthetic.
	♥ 11:16am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, i am sure you would appreciate many elements of that whole wacky scene. I think it is because my friends love me and wanted to create an environment that i would feel happy in.
	♥ 11:17am Granny Spicy Tuna: And now that most of my friends have had to move away from SF, it is THEIR home when they come to town (whether i am there or not).
	11:18am Linda Lee: i know i'd love it. absolutely.
	11:20am Linda Lee: i like the Jacobin article fine. dictated behavior either way? resist. it is all about self-determination & avoiding sheep-like behavior, after all. to thine own self be true! know why you do what you do. think about it.
	11:21am zpulpa: @Granny Spicy Tuna, A dear friend of mine in College grew up on Potrero Hill and I stayed there for a couple months one winter. It was so beautiful and so much nice light!
	11:22am hendrix wolfbat: Aw drat no atlanta dates. Love your concept. So brilliant.
	♥ 11:22am Granny Spicy Tuna: zpulpa, Potero Hill is indeed a sweet sunny spot in the foggy city. It used to be so sleepy and undiscovered, but those days are over.
	11:22am hendrix wolfbat: And the song you played was so lovely
	11:23am LizGig: Bookshop Band, any chance of We Are the Foxes?
	11:23am Linda Lee: @Granny ~ have your friends run from hyper-gentrification? we've left nyc for the same reasons.
	11:26am Linda Lee: i left, most decisively, because i feared for my life there, but the full scale transformation of my home town from habitat to investment asset helped.
	♥ 11:27am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, yes, most of my friends could not sustain living in SF. The ones that remain have rent control and cunning frugality.
	♥ 11:29am Granny Spicy Tuna: If i hadn't have bought that house in 97, i would have left long ago. If the house weren't such a unique treasure, i would have sold it by now.
	♥ 11:33am The Oscar: On a related note (to both the interview and the conversation at hand), if anyone gets a chance I highly recommend the Montague Book Mill out in western Mass. It's a converted 19th century paper mill on a river in the woods filled with used books, plus a gallery, a cafe/restaurant, and a record store. Really special place.
	11:33am otto: Bookstore Plus in Lake Placid, NY!
	11:34am SueAdynamo: who's this Lynn person??
	11:35am otto: (p.s. love the tunes - thanks! Happy trails!)
	11:36am Johnzon: these folk are way better than the shoeshop band
	♥ 11:37am Granny Spicy Tuna: I would like to walk into a bookshop and hear this.
	11:40am Andy the painter: hi trouble: is there an english translation of the francoise hardy bio you recommended last week?
	♥ 11:41am Granny Spicy Tuna: The Oscar—putting Montague Bookmill on the itinerary for my next trip out East…
	♥ 11:43am Passaic River Blues: @Andy: yes, there is. The title is "The Despair of the Monkeys and Other Trifles". Here's a review from the Guardian: www.theguardian.com...
	11:44am Emily: Saw the film "Never Look Away," loosely based on the life of Gerhard Richter. When the young painter leaves the East for Frankfurt/Dusseldorf, to show that he's in a hipper culture Francois Hardy is played in the art studios.
	♥ 11:44am Rich in Washington: I can't really understand a word of French but I could listen to Francoise Hardy all day.
	11:44am PJ: Four FH songs - I hope she didn't die
	11:44am Linda Lee: good to know about the mill! if gentrification drives me from my area ~ for the 5th time ~ i'll be looking for a viable creative community that still offers space for actual creation. shall i look out that way?
	11:44am jayjay: @ PJ I believe it is her birthday.
	11:45am Andy the painter: @PRB. thanks! great title.
	11:45am Linda Lee: this is her birthday, PJ!
	11:45am Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Linda Lee-you live in NYC right? May I ask (again) what area?
	♥ 11:45am Rich in Washington: PJ: I was thinking the same thing (still in shock from learning about Bowie's passing via WFMU playlist) so I Googled her.
	11:45am PJ: @jayjay, @Linda Lee: Phew!
	11:46am Linda Lee: @Wild Neil ~ no, i don't live there any more. 30 years was all the time allowed. i'm in the catskills now.
	♥ 11:46am βrian: My wife has mentioned the Montague Bookmill a number of times. She really loves it.
	♥ 11:49am Granny Spicy Tuna: Rich in Washington, and any other PNWers— Shakespeare and Co, off the I-5 in Chehalis, is one of the sweetest bookstore cafes i've ever enjoyed. Chehalis?!??!?!? (As someone who grew up in Longview/Kelso, i cannot believe it)
	11:50am zpulpa: There is a lovely musical and artistic community in the Turner's Falls MA area near the great Book Mill! I think about moving there from time to time.
	♥ 11:51am βrian: Many pictures: www.google.com...
	11:51am Linda Lee: i'll never forget finding a Francoise Hardy disque at a thrift store in the 90s ~ the record had been lived in and on. the jacket was destroyed. it still played, however & i was also smitten!
	♥ 11:51am The Oscar: @LL Definitely worth a look-- there's probably some gentrification out there too, but the Pioneer Valley and surrounding areas are still home to a lot of funky/artsy types. Relatively affordable, too (at least compared to Boston)-- if and when my gf and I settle down and look into homeownership, there's a good chance that's where we'll land :)
	♥ 11:51am βrian: Ach, that URL got mangled.
	11:52am Johnzon: @linda my friend lives in Turner's Falls/Montague... he said it's where most of the young artsy folk are moving in that part of MA. He's in a couple of bands: https://theearcadians.bandcamp.com/album/the-third-testament this is a country album he made last year: https://sweatenzo.bandcamp.com/album/kisses-in-the-wind he's also Sam the Appraiser's cousin. he also described Montague as the least white town in the area and it sounds like there are some deals real estate wise. Im hoping to visit this summer.
	♥ 11:52am βrian: This should work: tinyurl.com...
	11:53am Linda Lee: googling Turner's Mills .. Pioneer Valley. least white is promising! please, America, don't make me leave the country for affordable workspace!
	♥ 11:54am Rich in Washington: @Granny Spicy Tuna: Thanks! The missus and I are planning a sweep across that part of our state! We're on the hunt for uncharted mom n' pop thrift stores, bookstores, high strangeness...
	11:54am Johnzon: if you wanna be part of an earlier wave of gentrification/pre-gentrification proper bohemianism lol... probably the place to go
	♥ 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna: Linda Lee, may the right place at the right time make itself available to you with ease and grace
	♥ 11:55am Granny Spicy Tuna: Rich in WA—Oooh, i'll bet Chehalis has some thriftstore magick!
	11:55am Linda Lee: @Johnzon ~ thanks. it's what i'm used to. i've been gentrified out of 4 different neighborhoods since the '70s & i'm working on the 5th.
	♥ 11:55am Rich in Washington: Lived in the state of Washington almost my entire live and have never really explored anywhere between here and Seattle. Most of my explorations, recreating have taken place South of here, Portland, etc.
	11:55am Johnzon: tho another friend recommended Montevideo Uruguay for artists
	11:56am ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ: Bon matin Troublette! Just tuning in on the Left Coast but will listening on the Archives as always.
	11:56am Linda Lee: thank you, Granny. may we all find our proper place in this world.
	♥ 11:56am Trouble: thanks for sitting in this morning, tell your friends all about the bookshop band and their tour!
	11:56am John from Florham Park: Linda lee and the rest of the group this is why I love listening to WFMU, it has turned me on to some very fine music and and just reading the chats make me think what a wonderful group you all are snd the fact you can hear all about other things besides music
	11:57am Linda Lee: thank you for a beautiful show, Trouble! you're a blessing.
	11:57am zpulpa: Thank you Trouble!!!
	11:57am Linda Lee: no one-trick ponies, are we! :-D
	♥ 11:57am Ken From Hyde Park: The state of the Trouble is good.
	♥ 11:58am Passaic River Blues: Thank you, Trouble! Loving this little Francoise retrospective as this week's TMW denouement!
	♥ 11:58am Granny Spicy Tuna: Rich in WA—ooh, so much to discover! My guess is all that Chehalis/Centralia area has some weird old lingering strangeness by the banks of the Skookumchuck.
	11:58am Linda Lee: i've always lived there, myself, Ken!
	11:59am Santos L Halper: Merci pour l’Hardy! Finally got round to checking her out lately, after hearing her here for years. Got the Vogue years comp and a 5 disc set. Superbe!
	♥ 11:59am Rich in Washington: Thanks, Trouble! I sure do love and look forward to your show each and every week.
	11:59am Itzall Ablurr: Thanks Trouble, happy birthday, Francoise!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 17, 2019

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