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Options April 30, 2018: Corey Pein on his new book, "Live Work Work Work Die: A Journey Into the Savage Heart of Silicon Valley"

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This week: Corey Pein, author of the new book Live Work Work Work Die: A Journey Into the Savage Heart of Silicon Valley

Pointers to Corey's work:

Corey's homepage

@coreypein on Twitter

‘Like Selling Crack to Children’: A Peek Inside the Silicon Valley Grift Machine, by Corey Pein (New York magazine, April 2018)

Salon's review of Corey's book, by Keith Spencer

...but first, as usual, we'll start with...

Tech News

Silicon Valley Can't Be Trusted With Our History, by Evan Hill. "We create almost everything on the internet, but we control almost none of it."

Megan McArdle's thread explaining "just how bad the economics of the media industry are" (see also the unrolled thread). "Subtitle: why you can't have all the awesome free journalism you want and have come to expect."

There will be little privacy in the workplace of the future, from The Economist’s March 2018 issue. Excerpt: “‘Every aspect of business is becoming more data-driven. There’s no reason the people side of business shouldn’t be the same,’ says Ben Waber, Humanyze’s boss. The company’s staff are treated much the same way as its clients. Data from their employees’ badges are integrated with information from their e-mail and calendars to form a full picture of how they spend their time at work. Clients get to see only team-level statistics, but Humanyze’s employees can look at their own data, which include metrics such as time spent with people of the same sex, activity levels and the ratio of time spent speaking versus listening.”

Code Red: Organizing the tech sector, by Alex Press in the spring 2018 issue of n+1, surveying the state of union-organizing in the tech space.

The Internet’s ‘Original Sin’ Endangers More Than Privacy, by Brendan Eich and Brian Brown (who run the privacy-minded Brave browser). "As much as half the data consumed on mobile plans goes to downloading ads and trackers, adding significantly to fixed mobile data plans. . . As much as 50% of mobile battery life is consumed by ads while browsing. . . The internet need not be characterized by predation and parasitism. It can once again be a place of infinite possibility. Innovation got us into this situation; it can get us out."

• ...oh, and Facebook had its earnings call. Here's the summary, below, from Jason Kint:



More on that consent decree: NPR, March 2018: "The Federal Trade Commission is looking into whether Facebook violated a [2011] consent decree by enabling third parties to access users' information without their permission." ($40,000 per violation.)

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:02pm Zetti:

Hey!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:03pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Nice Titanic image! :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:03pm Linda Lee:

bravo! hi Mark!
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:03pm melinda:

Hi folks
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:03pm Folsom:

Mark, I see that the pop up player is now hosted by a third party radiorethink.com. I looked at their privacy policy, and there are some trackers on the site. Do you know if we are being tracked by the player? I see links to buy music from amazon. Maybe only use the mp3 stream to be safe?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:04pm TDK60:

Hello Mark, been a few weeks since I've been here. I'm just as tech-skeptical as I was...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:06pm queems:

HELLO
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:06pm Linda Lee:

queems, did you get any good photos at the rec fair you could share with us? hint?
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:06pm melinda:

Wish I could have attended the record fair
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:07pm geezerette:

Damn, I LOVE this show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:07pm TDK60:

Melinda, you still at work?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:07pm queems:

@linda i only took a couple, but i can upload them! mostly of this one band that was playing and of some windows
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:08pm Linda Lee:

we'd love seeing 'em!
who was the band?
(yes i am glad you were busy being there instead of taking pictures!)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:09pm queems:

i also took one of my boyfriend standing in front of a record that said "drinkin my own sperm"
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:09pm Linda Lee:

ha! wow! he must be an interesting guy :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:09pm queems:

he was an unwilling participant but i got a kick out of it
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:10pm Linda Lee:

good for you! :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:10pm TDK60:

Love the illustration today. It says a lot.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...what are my offers for my identity this evening...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:10pm Linda Lee:

i like it too, TDK60. brilliant.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...reminds me of this Moby video :
www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:13pm TDK60:

I'm glad you laughed Mark. I would have cried or screamed.
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:13pm geezerette:

Ditto the illustration.
Howdy buddies!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:13pm queems:

i don't think i want to live in the future
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:14pm northguineahills:

Considering I'm technically the IT guy for my company, that shit ain't happening (outside what big data already tracts).
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:15pm ultradamno:

Useless without detailed bathroom behavior data, Humanyze,
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I can steal yer DNA profile & 3Dprint a better you every Monday punk...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:16pm Bas NL:

My battery level???
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:16pm TDK60:

I'm pro-union but very critical of their coziness with the bosses. I'm Wobbly in spirit. (Right-on to the recent teacher uprisings.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 4/30/18 6:16pm dale:

when you can't leave a relationship that's domestic abuse.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:17pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Let me guess ... workers at Humanyze swap their badges with other random employees when they arrive at work?
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:17pm melinda:

@TDK about to head home
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:17pm Linda Lee:

time to delineate an identity divorced from tech in order to spiritually survive the future!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:18pm northguineahills:

@TFK60: The collagist Wobly who has collaborated w/ Matmos and People Like US.

Feel better melinda, we're w/ you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:18pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Take care, melinda. We're thinking of you.
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:18pm geezerette:

We're living in a brave new world. Craven seems more accurate than brave, but whatever.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:19pm northguineahills:

errr....@TDK60: ...PLU?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:19pm queems:

i clicked on the link about humanyze and was greeted with a warning about agreeing to the site using my cookies for marketing and i was like huh how appropriate
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:20pm geezerette:

I'm drinking a tech tonic right now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:21pm TDK60:

NGH: Don't know "Wobly," I mean the I.W.W. union of the early 20th Century, still around but small. (They were nicknamed Wobblies)
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:21pm own crabapplesatellite Johnzon:

Great show today
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:22pm geezerette:

Kurtzweil is nuts.
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:23pm geezerette:

You can't organize libertarians.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:23pm Linda Lee:

love hearing this stuff articulated so well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Move The Goalposts...I Win - !!...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:24pm TedfromOakland:

Yes! This interviewee is Speaking Truth.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:24pm Linda Lee:

honestly, i'm so bored with the USA.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:25pm TDK60:

Linda Lee, you must have heard The Clash at one point.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

....flamingo hedgehog croquet...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:25pm Linda Lee:

my secret theme song since they put it out :-D
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:25pm geezerette:

Linda Lee, it's weirdly comforting. Misery loves...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:26pm Linda Lee:

you mean discussion of our doom, geezerette? :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:27pm northguineahills:

I know, TDK60, I was being tongue-in-cheek since this is WFMU. ;)
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:27pm jess:

Linda Lee for prez!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:27pm TDK60:

That 1rst album is so abrasive, I love it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:27pm Linda Lee:

god no!! pleases no!! :-D
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:27pm geezerette:

Yes Linda Lee, exactly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...the World Wide Web was supposed to Decentralize everything...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:28pm Linda Lee:

@TDK60 ~ yes lovely album.
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:29pm jess:

no Clay for prez and you as vice president of secretary of state.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:29pm Linda Lee:

get ready for anarchy, jess :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Top20s: www.20albums.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:30pm TDK60:

No prez! Linda Lee for recallable/mandatable delegate. (hee.)
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:30pm geezerette:

We're being disassembled so fast it's almost imperseptable.
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:30pm jess:

hell yeah @LL!
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:31pm jess:

ha ha TDK60!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:31pm Linda Lee:

:-)
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:32pm geezerette:

...imperceptible...jeez...!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:32pm Linda Lee:

my god, do believe the privacy horse has left the barn, hasn't it?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Own our own data ?!?!?!
: O < !!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:33pm Mark Hurst:

Hi everyone! Thanks for joining in tonight. Here's the battery-level thing - it was actually about Instagram: twitter.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:33pm TDK60:

The Europeans came up with a term (back in the 90s I think): the precarious or precariat.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The Bill of Rights did not translate into Digital...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

(...it were written by white landowning male slaverapers anyhow who just didn't wanna pay tax...)
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:34pm exile-on-hicks-st:

@Linda Lee - yes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:35pm Linda Lee:

Rev ~ correct. civil rights for me, but not for thee. & we only build on that basic idea.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:36pm Linda Lee:

good one, TDK60.
let's have the brand on those dumbphones & cheap tablets!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:37pm Linda Lee:

there we go. el katel?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:37pm TDK60:

They call it "casual" labor here. What's so casual about working more?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:37pm Linda Lee:

possible business idea: manufacture new dumb phones!
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:38pm geezerette:

Scott Pruit woke me up to the reality that these people no longer bother to even pretend they care about citizens or Constitution.
Last straw. Shocking, horrifying, how fast the tent communities are appearing on sidewalks everywhere. Tragic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:38pm Linda Lee:

@TDK60 ~ relaxed dress code?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:38pm Ken From Hyde Park:

There used to be little sound-proof chambers where there was a public phone that you could use. Something-booth, they called them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:39pm TDK60:

LL: Oh yeah, that's about it, dress code. You can be hip as you help the 1%.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:39pm Linda Lee:

@geezerette ~ www.independent.co.uk...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:40pm queems:

spoiler alert: my battery is almost always close to empty because i don't want to spent $1000 on a new phone that works better
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:40pm queems:

good luck advertising to me- i don't like to buy stuff
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Oh hell. NewHampshuh here is a 'Right to Work' state - which means no right to Unions ...the right to be fired & have no Rights @ all as a Worker...& this is a 'Blue' state...I am a Temp worker w/ no benefits, job security - 'cetera...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:40pm Bas NL:

My battery is 98%.. I charge too often? Use my phone to little?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:41pm Linda Lee:

i don't have a 'smart phone' & do believe if i get one it'll be dumb!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:41pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Alcatel phones in the US - us.alcatelmobile.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:41pm queems:

i'm a millennial- i only understand something if i see it on a smart phone screen
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:41pm Linda Lee:

thanks Ken! yay!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:41pm TDK60:

Is it possible we could eventually make a cooperatively- run ecologically-leaning tech system? It might be like a food co-op federation or some such.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:41pm northguineahills:

I think I effed up an interview which was going swimmingly beforehand when I said, "I don't want to be a code monkey" since I don't mind coding, I just don't like doing it all the time. I think the interviewer probably started out as a code monkey.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...hell - time for 'smart' homes...'smart' didloes...data-tracking toasters & ladybots...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:42pm Linda Lee:

(( however, we don't want a modern type phone with all the tracked bells & whistles ..))
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:42pm northguineahills:

Leaving in 5 mins to do laundry (forgot to do so yesterday). Thanks Mark and Corey!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:43pm TDK60:

NGH, get those "casuals" clean.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:44pm ultradamno:

Uber and Lyft drivers rallying in Portland www.oregonlive.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:44pm TedfromOakland:

I just read a piece on Coachella and the modern era of surveillance festivals: that wristband they give upon entry has a chip in it--they know where each festival attendee is at all times!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:44pm queems:

@ted that's messed up
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:45pm TDK60:

There are good things -- DNA tests getting innocent folks outta jail is obviously good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:45pm Bas NL:

My work suggested i'd install Whatsapp. I said no. they summed up all the good it would provide. I said my phone had no internet. Would i like internet on my phone? No.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:45pm Linda Lee:

there you go Bas.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...When I heard about face-recognition utilized in arenas (as for concerts or sports) - i made a note of that...everything in 'Minority Report' from 2002 has basically happened...
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:46pm geezerette:

Linda Lee, thanks for the link! Yep.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:47pm Linda Lee:

the old fashioned word for what we're growing here is: dystopia.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:47pm ultradamno:

Well, it's because you're creating something they can box up, i.e. contents.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:49pm Linda Lee:

planning a line of t shirts inspired by our relationship to tech. latest design says, in block letters:
CONTENT
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I hear George ... phone success!
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:49pm geezerette:

Rev Rab, which makes the film a statement of intentions.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:49pm northguineahills:

I saw the radio rethink when looking at the code this weekend, and noticed the same. I use the popup when both my phone and iTunes are both borked.
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:50pm kevlicki:

Hey TDK60
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:51pm TDK60:

Clay Pigeon has a term for his listeners: "glisteners"...Do we need a term for the listeners to this show, or not?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:51pm Tommy in Neversink:

You mean we're not having a sing along this week ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:51pm TDK60:

Kev. what's up?
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:51pm kevlicki:

Does everybody know that the wfmu comments board is searchable in google? I’ve found my handle in searches...
Everything you say online is recorded
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:51pm kevlicki:

Tdk60 Im trying to make birdhouses
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:52pm Ghoffman:

duckduckgo is good. Startpage is better
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:52pm queems:

@kevlicki yeah, i've noticed that
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:52pm Linda Lee:

@kevlicki ~ this is why i warned our glisteners today: your comments are international forever, so don't be an asshole.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:53pm Linda Lee:

(heads up, in other words.)
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:53pm Ghoffman:

are there any alternatives to facebook and instagram? I’m a professional musician and it has become near impossible to promote without those two services
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:53pm TDK60:

I'm already doomed, having mentioned the Wobs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:53pm queems:

is the mobile data usage thing still true if you use an ad blocker?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:53pm Linda Lee:

i'll say it again: the key to our survival as human beings in future is to develop personhood outside tech.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:54pm Bas NL:

Do trackers track trackers?
  Mon. 4/30/18 6:54pm kevlicki:

I’m mostly concerned with my contributions to shut up weirdo!
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:55pm geezerette:

Linda Lee, that's brilliant.
We're a banana republic but Banana Republic won't sell your shirt.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:55pm Linda Lee:

Mark calls our fmu comments board some of the best social media going, in terms of signal to noise ratio. but of course as long as we're online at all right now, we're data & we'll be used as data.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

As an Astrology enthusiast...you wanted the Age of Aquarius ??
Here it is folks. Hope you like it...Genies out of Bottles all around...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:55pm TDK60:

Bring back that '70s term: "appropriate tech"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:56pm Linda Lee:

good one, geezerette.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:56pm queems:

i took all of the identifying info out of my profile
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:56pm melinda:

@TDK I suggested Techtons but it hasn't caught on.
@kevlicki yes. It's there forever. I was once involved in an online health support group that was public and when I did google searches on certain specific topics I found my own questions to the group. At least I had a fake name there.
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:57pm geezerette:

Pandora's box, now open.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:57pm ultradamno:

It's like Silicon Valley is all people who read 1984 and Brave New World and walked away with all the wrong messages
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:57pm queems:

it was very nice to meet you, mark! thanks for the card trick
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:57pm Jeff Moore:

@Folsom, @NGH: whatever other concerns there may be, I recommend using the bare live streams in a standalone "real" audio player whenever possible just for optimal reliability and sound quality. If you dislike iTunes or it's in a state of disrepair, that's fine, because VLC is in my opinion a more pleasing lightweight all-around Swiss Army knife of an audio player:

www.videolan.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm Linda Lee:

i vote for 1 positive show for every horrifying show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm TDK60:

Great show...could it go to 90 min. someday?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm queems:

i love uncle michael's show
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm Bas NL:

Pheww! This hour goes fast.. Thanks Mark & all!
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm geezerette:

Ultradamno,yep!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm Rich in Washington:

Thanks for a great show! Informative. Infuriating.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm Smokestack:

Great show again, Mark
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm Linda Lee:

Agree, TDK!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:58pm queems:

oh man this song is my jam!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:59pm Linda Lee:

80s hit right there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:59pm Jeff Moore:

...and to play in VLC, for live WFMU use I recommend the 128k AAC stream:

stream0.wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:59pm Rich in Washington:

I'm a hinky dinky listener too. Love that show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:59pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Really appreciate the kind words & your tuning in. See you next week.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Rockwell!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 6:59pm Linda Lee:

thanks Mark!
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 7:00pm βrian:

Ach! This is the worst time *ever* for a discussion/call-in show! I really try to make it, but it's like a salmon swimming against a tsunami!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 7:00pm queems:

so many uncredited jacksons on this track
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 7:00pm Linda Lee:

yep .. this was a hit in 1984! true!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 4/30/18 7:00pm melinda:

Thanks for the tips Jeff, I just downloaded.
Avatar    Mon. 4/30/18 7:00pm geezerette:

Such great people here,
Thanks, Mark!
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