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Options June 16, 2013

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Sonny Clark  Somethin' Special   Options Leapin' and Lopin'  0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
Gerd Dudek/Buschi Niebergall/Edward Vesala  Manchmal   Options Open  0:06:16 (Pop‑up)
Roscoe Mitchell  Ornette (alternate)   Options Sound  0:12:16 (Pop‑up)
Susie Ibarra / Denis Charles  Welcome   Options Drum Talk  0:17:37 (Pop‑up)
Modern Jazz Quartet  Bag's Groove   Options Dedicated to Connie  0:21:23 (Pop‑up)
The Focus Group  Kinky Korner Klub   Options The Elektrik Karousel  0:33:05 (Pop‑up)
The Static Tics  Nishapur or Balkh   Options My Favorite Tics  0:35:36 (Pop‑up)
Miko  New Town   Options Chandelier  0:39:17 (Pop‑up)
Cluster & Eno  Ho Renomo   Options Cluster & Eno  0:43:45 (Pop‑up)
Phil Minton Quartet  Back   Options Slur  0:47:46 (Pop‑up)
Luciano Cilio  Primo Quadro "Della Conoscenza" Da "Dialoghi Dal Presente"   Options Dell' Universo Assente  0:57:53 (Pop‑up)
Circle  Wherever Particular People Congregate   Options Meronia  1:05:29 (Pop‑up)
Der Musikant  Armer Tropf   Options Distanz  1:08:33 (Pop‑up)
Peter Ivers  Cat Scratch Fever   Options Knight of the Blue Communion  1:11:23 (Pop‑up)
Anne-James Chaton / Andy Moor  Not Guilty   Options Transfer  1:18:55 (Pop‑up)
Richard Pinhas  Square   Options Desolation Row  1:32:30 (Pop‑up)
Crank Sturgeon & Lineland  Do That (Plural)   Options Other Occasions Not Minded  1:40:02 (Pop‑up)
The Cinematic Orchestra  Ma Fleur   Options Ma Fleur  1:44:41 (Pop‑up)
Die Knödel  Duduradu   Options Panorama  1:48:34 (Pop‑up)
Albert Ayler  Ghosts (live)   Options Holy Ghost  1:59:36 (Pop‑up)
Momus  Oskar Tennis Champion   Options Oskar Tennis Champion  2:07:02 (Pop‑up)
Girolamo de Simone  Campane o della Solitudine   Options Shama  2:10:07 (Pop‑up)
Art-Errorist & Acid Cobra  Crushed Croissants   Options Cold Waters  2:20:24 (Pop‑up)
Ali Mohammed Bira  Awash   Options Great Oromo Music: Ethipiques Vol 28  2:21:57 (Pop‑up)
Area C  Trick with a Knife   Options Trick with a Knife  2:29:29 (Pop‑up)
Der Plan  Der Todesmonolog   Options Die Letzte Rache  2:35:51 (Pop‑up)
Minamo  Draw the Line   Options Documental  2:41:09 (Pop‑up)
Ellen Fullman/Konrad Sprenger  Train   Options Ort  2:51:05 (Pop‑up)
Mark Lanegan/Duke Garwood  Last Rung   Options Black Pudding  2:55:35 (Pop‑up)

Listener comments!

Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:02pm Dave E:

Hi Dave M
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:03pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, dear listeners.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:03pm BDR:

World famous celebrity here. I'm inexplicably drawn to you.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:03pm deanland:

Great way to start the program...always a tough task, following Monica!!
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:03pm Dave E:

Nice start to the show.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:04pm Dave Mandl:

And...we have our first Dave checking in. Hey.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:04pm Dave Mandl:

And two non-Daves. Hey, dean/BDR.
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:04pm Dave E:

Mind if I call you Dave to avoid confusion?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 9:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:05pm Dave Mandl:

@BDR: I know you've tried to resist, but it's hopeless.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:05pm Dave Mandl:

Hey there, RRN63.
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:06pm Dave E:

The Dave club!
  Sun. 6/16/13 9:06pm bloopy:

hey there!
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:07pm Dave E:

Is Bloopy a Dave?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 9:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Daves - NonDaves
- 50-50%!...
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:08pm Dave E:

are you half Dave or half not Dave?
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:08pm Dave Mandl:

But each Dave is worth 1.2 non-Daves.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:08pm Dave Mandl:

I see his Dave as half-full.
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:09pm Dave E:

How does one have a .2 non-Dave?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 9:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- oh - I'm a Dave, & I'm full of it awlright...
  Sun. 6/16/13 9:10pm bloopy:

non-dave i'm afraid
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 9:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- soundin' like late Coltrane - & I like that very much Thx...
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:11pm Dave E:

oh well, join in on the Dave fun anyway.
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:12pm Dave E:

is that Dave M on drums?
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:14pm Dave Mandl:

@Dave E.: If you don't hear the drummer drop a stick, it's probably not me.
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:15pm Dave E:

Duct tape could fix that problem?
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:19pm Dave Mandl:

Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:20pm Dave E:

Neat drum track, love them drums . . .
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:20pm Dave E:

....meanwhile back in the jungle.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 9:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...they talk w/ drums...
  🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:23pm 12539:

I am enjoying your show. My name is not Dave. That is all for now.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:24pm Dave Mandl:

But...that's not possible.
Avatar 🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 9:24pm Dave E:

time to put the timer on and head off to ZZZZZZZZ. Don't play anything to rough now.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:24pm deanland:

About to put my set of 1966 Ludwig pearl drums, Zildian cymbals(ride, crash, sizzle, high-hat) and Gretsch accessories (mostly) into storage. Just no room for them, NYC being known for tight spaces.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:35pm Dave Mandl:

Sounds like a beautiful kit. What color?
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:37pm Droll:

Type "Elektrik Karousel" into Google, Google responds "Did you mean: electric carousel"

deanland, Good news, there's enough room here in Seattle for just such a kit!
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:38pm Dave Mandl:

How embarrassing for Google.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 9:40pm G:

I evade Dave status :p
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 9:41pm Dave Mandl:

Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 9:41pm G:

  Sun. 6/16/13 9:49pm common:

Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 10:03pm G:

Dell'Universo Assente = From/Of the Absent Universe
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 6/16/13 10:03pm G:

or, About the Absent Universe (sounding like a book title)
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:04pm Droll:

If the universe makes a sound and nobody is there to hear it...
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:06pm deanland:

The kit is gray pearl. it is total vintage of the era. It traveled well, from NY where I grew up to college in the Midwest, then to the south where I worked, up to Massachusetts (more work) then back to NY where it was with me in the burbs for a long time. One fellow at a gig saw it and told me he drooled over seeing a drummer with (get this!) "Ringo's drum set!"
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:08pm Dave Mandl:

Yup, not surprising.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:08pm Droll:

HA! Do you also throw towels over them so they go thud-thud-thud?
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:10pm Dave Mandl:

Do you smoke a cigarette while you're playing?
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:14pm deanland:

@Droll: We did put a blanket in the bass drum for a little while until I got a new pedal. The old, original pedal (Ludwig) had poor action and needed to be thumped like mad, making it louder than intended -- for quite some time I tried retuning the drum -- then Roy Blumenfeld, drummer for the Blues Project, told me to try another pedal. Wow, was he ever correct. That was when I began slowly changing over slowly to all Gretsch accessories.

@Dave: back in the early 70's maybe, but not for the 35+ years since I quit!!!!
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:14pm Droll:

I love the version of this on Double Live Gonzo!
  🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 10:15pm 12539:

Cat Scratch Fever! This should fall under the 2% Rock and roll, but somehow...
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:17pm Dave Mandl:

This is the Ted Nugent no one really knows.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:17pm deanland:

I think maybe it is Ned Tugent.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:21pm Dave Mandl:

@deanland: Good for you (quitting smoking). But I have to admit there's something cool about him smoking while he's playing in Hard Day's Night.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:24pm Droll:

Funny, because Brian Epstein urged them to quit smoking and drinking onstage when they were in Germany. They couldn't escape the "naughty" image.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:26pm Droll:

I love the head flopping back and forth Ringo look, but Paul is still my favorite Beatles drummer.
  Sun. 6/16/13 10:27pm pete l:

Peter ivers tune ruined me
  Sun. 6/16/13 10:28pm common:

this is great thank you
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:30pm deanland:

According to a Beatles book I read, on a number of the cuts on some early Beatles albums, George Martin called in a drummer, sort of the Hal Blaine of London, to cover the drum track. Ringo, it seemed. learned on the job, and was somewhat tutored by George Martin. Probably more in style than in chops.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:32pm Dave Mandl:

@deanland: Hmmm, well there are a lot of legends about Ringo, but I believe there was only track that they used a session guy on. Love Me Do.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:33pm Dave Mandl:

Actually, a version of the song that was never released.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:39pm Dave Mandl:

True story: Bernard Purdie claims he played drums on many Beatle records, but Ringo got credit. Completely crazy.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:44pm deanland:

Good to know re Love Me Do. I heard that the Purdie stories were false. There's a fellow named Scott Freiman who does lectures deconstructing the Beatles. He's an expert on these things, and gets his hands on all sorts of demos and outtakes and does INCREDIBLE lectures on the Beatles. www.beatleslectures.com
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:45pm ottovonbqe:

Then there's the people who believe Paul McCartney is alive - they're the craziest.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:45pm deanland:

+1 @ottovonbqe!
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:46pm Droll:

Why would Purdie need to exaggerate his career? And to claim credit on such mediocre playing!
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:47pm Dave Mandl:

@Droll: Good question. Also, come on, what's better-documented than the Beatles' recording sessions? I think someone would have seen Purdie if he'd really been there.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:48pm Dave Mandl:

@ottovonbqe: I think the jury's still out on that.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:49pm dk:

i've heard some guy named "richard starkey" also played on a bunch of beatles records, but i'm not buying it for a second. lots of crazy conspiracy theories around that band, i tell you.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:54pm deanland:

Rumor has it that Richard Starkey married a descendant of Johannes Sebastian Bach.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 10:55pm Droll:

dk, There's also some crackpot, Pete Best, always saying "Me too!" I'm sticking with the Walrus as best Beatles drummer.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:01pm Dave Mandl:

@deanland: True She restored hotness to the Bach family.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:04pm deanland:

This Ayler piece sounds like it bore a lot of influence on Chris MacGregor's Brotherhood of Breath (which can only be heard, it seems, on WFMU).
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:05pm deanland:

Well, Dave, JS and CPO Bach really wore out the women in their lives!
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:06pm dk:

welp, this ayler box set just went straight onto the lust-object list.
  Sun. 6/16/13 11:06pm mark Flynn:

These guys do get Ornette, and to be honest, they get his mindset without being extremely obtuse. I appreciate Ornette for what he brought to the table, but his recordings are documents that would be revaluations live but most are difficult to absorb on vinyl.
  Sun. 6/16/13 11:16pm trs:

fyi from this eve http://youtu.be/MA4j4TLznE0?t=3m02s
( http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/laurie-anderson)
  Sun. 6/16/13 11:19pm mark Flynn:

Thought the Ayler piece was Mostly Other People DoThe Killing. Props to Ayler.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:35pm deanland:

Gotta run.....back next week to take in the sounds.......
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:36pm Dave Mandl:

Take care, @deanland. And take care of that drumset.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:38pm Droll:

I thought we agreed I was going to take care of the kit.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:40pm Dave Mandl:

Well, you guys need to work that out.
  Sun. 6/16/13 11:42pm Marmalade Kitty:

Der Todesmonolgog was pretty twisted.. I salute the twisted set!
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:43pm Dave Mandl:

@MK: Glad you liked it. Der Plan. They were the best,
  Sun. 6/16/13 11:44pm Marmalade Kitty:

monolgog! new word?
  Sun. 6/16/13 11:47pm pete l:

Thanks for great adventures tonight Dave
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:49pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks, Pete.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:56pm Droll:

Well under 2% this week, and not a hint of Mellotron. Fine job!

I'll be back to check again next week.
  🎃 Sun. 6/16/13 11:57pm 12539:

Thanks Dave.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:57pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks, Droll. Deeply ashamed about the Mellotron oversight, but I'll make up for it next time.
Avatar Sun. 6/16/13 11:58pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks, 125etc. Have a great week, everyone.
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