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Options March 21, 2012: Live at the UCB Theater with cartoonist Gary Panter, rock ventriloquist Carla Rhodes, media critic Jay Rosen & more

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  Wed. 3/21/12 6:01pm Danne D:

Everybody Clap :)
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:01pm Carmichael:

Everybody clap!
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:01pm Matt from Springfield:

I am avant-avant-garde.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:02pm Carmichael:

I am an idiot savant garde.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:02pm Artiste:

I'm so avant-garde, I'm garde-avant.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:03pm Carmichael:

Will Lou Reed be on again?
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:04pm Matt from Springfield:

Vicky has spoken of avant-retard.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:05pm Matt from Springfield:

@Carm: Don't overplay the Lou Reed not showing up card, Lou should only announce and then cancel for *important* occasions.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:06pm Caryn:

I'm so avant-garde that I'm just a theoretical construct of Saint Simonian Olinde Rodrigues and Renato Poggioli.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:08pm Matt from Springfield:

Seven Second Sadgasm.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:09pm Matt from Springfield:

Sad Foodgasm?

Maybe, Fugazim.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:09pm Caryn:

Do they have someone on site who knows the Heimlich Manoeuvre?
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:10pm Carmichael:

I'm so avant-garde that my actual existence is only a theory.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:11pm Caryn:

I'm so avant-garde that I'm the original meaning of the word, and thus died in battle as cannon fodder.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:12pm UCB Security:

We're on the lookout for Gary Panther poachers.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:13pm Matt from Springfield:

I saw that Van Dyke Parks was a guest on Irwin's show years ago, I should check that Archive.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:13pm Carmichael:

A ventriloquist on the radio. Nice going, guys.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:14pm kat330:

Where was Irwin this aft?
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:15pm Caryn:

I'm so avant-garde that I've been stamped "Clement Greenberg-approved".
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:15pm Matt from Springfield:

@Carm: Worked for Edward Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, albeit years ago for a less sophisicated media audience...
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:15pm ::JT::

Wish there were still magazines like Slash.... or Forced Exposure.... or Excluded Middle...
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:16pm Matt from Springfield:

@kat: Dunno. Probably nowhere special, he's just gone sometimes.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:17pm mr El Donutsu:

I wish the west coast was only Southern California - where everyone is tan.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:18pm kat330:

I always disliked the Hanna-Barbera toons. All of 'em.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:18pm Caryn:

At least they have a live audience there, so we can gauge how good the ventriloquist is from their reaction (like on old-time radio). If they were just at the station, the ventriloquism would make no sense. Unless they Ustreamed it. Then again, maybe that's the point.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:21pm Matt from Springfield:

Detroit is magic--just ask Jason Sigal!
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:22pm Caryn:

I'm grateful the west coast also includes the Pacific Northwest, because without it we would be lacking a lot of great music and awesome donuts. And "Twin Peaks" would've been a very different show.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:22pm Andy in Berlin:

I used to watch the Susan Show all the time!
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:23pm kat330:

Peewee Herman, yes! The antidote to crappy Sat. AM toons.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:23pm Caryn:

Oh man, I have to go trawl youtube for the Susan Show now! That's almost as f-ed up as 70s' British kids' shows.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:23pm Danne D:

Here's an episode of "Susan's Show" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08fCLurn-g
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:24pm Carmichael:

Maybe next week they'll have a mime on.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:25pm Caryn:

Thanks, Danne!
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:26pm tikkleT:

I can't tell you how many times I've sent "Clowns to the Left Of Me" around. Burn the Church Of The Savvy
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:28pm Andy in Berlin:

Weird, I also remembered it as The Susan Show. I guess that's why I couldn't find it - Susan's Show.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:28pm Caryn:

Man, sometimes kids' shows can have some weirdo stuff in them, from Susan to Peewee to the "Find Sammy Davis Jr's Eye in the Pie" game.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:29pm ::JT::

Where is the cat....? The cat is in the moon...
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:29pm Matt from Springfield:

Pee Wee Herman was more of an art show, that was targeted at kids.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:32pm Danne D:

Did Ken just say that the truth is that Nixon was not a crook by way of that example?
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:33pm Matt from Springfield:

That's true..adding a negative to a sentence, like "not", isn't effective at making the brain believe the sentence's opposite.
"I .. am NOT .. a crook" differs little on the brain from "I .. AM .. a crook".
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:34pm Danne D:

Pee Wee started out as a show for adults, though, the kids version came later. One of the odder transtions ever when you think about it.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:34pm seang:

will shortz hugs the bag
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:34pm Matt from Springfield:

"I am honest" is a better message than "I am not a crook". The "not" has little effect on the subconscious.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:35pm Danne D:

I understand the point Ken was making - but the example was that someone would believe a lie if it was countered by truth. The "lie" as premised by Ken's statement was that Nixon was not a crook :)
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:36pm Danne D:

Agree Matt, I'm always fascinated by framing.

Romney's spokesman with the Etch-a-Sketch thing. That's just total malpractice, regardless of what your personal politics may be.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:36pm Matt from Springfield:

Ah, his specific example of I-am-not-a-crook!
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:37pm ::JT::

Caryn, speaking of weird kid's shows.... are you familiar with Hello Hello Hello? http://oppiminen.yle.fi/artikkeli?id=5493
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:37pm Danne D:

The rise of Fox and right wing radio go against that statement that he just made.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:39pm Matt from Springfield:

Mitt Romney is more like a wax tablet--he can be cleared over and started again, slowly removing his core material in the process!

Or, maybe he is an Etch-A-Sketch--and the longer you play it, the more pixelated and cloudy he becomes! :)
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:40pm Matt from Springfield:

It's Clay Pigeon in British voice!! ;)
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:41pm Danne D:

I can totally hear her lips moving...
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:42pm Caryn:

@JT: oh yeah, they just reran it last year I think. Odd and fab.

@Danne: as odd a transition as "Sapphire & Steel" originally being a children's show. Actually, that transition has been more a result of time passing. Sheesh, let's give kids coronaries...
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:43pm Danne D:

Cecil Sinclair sounds like he could be a writer for Rick Santorum
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:45pm Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: Nope. Too progressive.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:45pm ::JT::

I bought the dvd set of Sapphire and Steel (it creeped me out as a kid) and introduced kat to it, but not her fave. I still love it, but maybe partially due to nostalgia.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:47pm kat330:

@JT: Nope, not a fave, "diamonds & rust" as I refer to it.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:49pm kat330:

So glad Keith and Mick patched things up.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:50pm Caryn:

Then again, "Sapphire & Steel" was just one in a series of kids' series and films aimed at making kids permanent bed-wetters. "Children of the Stones" and "Nightmare Man" have permanently traumatised some people I know.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:51pm Matt from Springfield:

Hmmph! Lip-Movers!
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:52pm Danne D:

all in the spirit of Grimm's fairy tales, Caryn :)
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:52pm kat330:

Captain Kangaroo creeped me out. Too solicitous and smarmy. Talking naturally to kids goes a long way to engaging them.
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:53pm kat330:

Get the drummer some water! He's gotta be working up a major sweat!
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:54pm ::JT::

For some reason the monkeys in "Tales of the Gold Monkey" freaked me out as a kid. Nothing scary about the show really that I can remember....
  Wed. 3/21/12 6:58pm Dave in PA:

Thank you Caryn for just hipping me to some sweet 70's TV shows to check out - I'm totally digging the looks of the Children of the Stones - looks like a cross between Wicker Man and the 'Stones of Blood' episode of Dr Who
  Wed. 3/21/12 7:01pm Matt from Springfield:

Good night everyone!
  Wed. 3/21/12 7:01pm Caryn:

@Dave: the people behind "Children of the Stones" also did another creepy kids' show, but I can't remember the name. The basic premise of a bullied kid getting stuck in a broken elevator and hallucinating an alternate world gives you enough ideas of how jolly that show is.
  Wed. 3/21/12 7:01pm Danne D:

Have a great night guys :)
  Wed. 3/21/12 7:02pm Caryn:

The Gorgs on "Fraggle Rock" used to freak me out as a kid.
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