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Favoriting September 14, 2020: Steve Lambert, artist and activist

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Tonight: Steve Lambert, artist and activist

Pointers:

Why Facebook is a Waste of Time – and Money – for Arts Nonprofits, by Steve Lambert (ArtNet op-ed, Feb 2018)

@SteveLambert (Twitter)

VisitSteve.com (Steve's website)

The Center for Artistic Activism

FreeTheVaccine.org, including "Vaccine," the Covid-19 Dolly Parton "Jolene" Parody

Steve Lambert's 404 Page Video, explained in The Most Awkward '404 Not Found' Page on the Internet

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  Steve Lambert, artist-activist, on capitalism, Facebook, and the Covid vaccine.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting Machinarium Soundtrack 
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  Mark's intro    
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  Interview with Steve Lambert    
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  Mark's comments after the interview    
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Steve Lambert  404 Page Video   Favoriting  
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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtsthetes!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark and the Architecontics! I got home just in time. Happy to be here with you all.
  6:01pm
David in London:

Hello Technoids. Evening Mark.
Ultradamno! Handy!
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Handy Haversack:

ultradamno! You're always at the best parties.

Hey, DiL "After Dark"!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Techtonicshifts!
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listener james from westwood:

How do, Mark and the Tech Tones!
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonoffs!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark and techtorabbits in the Tinfoil Studio.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Handy Haversack:

Studio Blind Spot (as in from surveillance)?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
ultradamno:

Hiya Handy, DiL!
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Ike:

Good evening!
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Ike:

BTW the images on your playlist are always ON POINT.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Michael 98145:

The left coast currently IS a vision of Hell
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chresti:

*cough* thanks Mark!
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brainiac:

I just saw The Social Dilemma last night, and I can't recommend highly enough.
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brainiac:

By that I mean I highly recommend it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Handy Haversack:

Well, I assume not *all* of them were there. RIP.
Avatar 6:09pm
Sonderangebot:

Hey Mark, nice to hear you live. That documentary was good, but I already learned so much listening to your show!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
ultradamno:

I just saw a piece about Latinx voters in Florida being targeted with conspiracy/QAnon misinformation.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Handy Haversack:

Shut it down!
  6:13pm
David in London:

Nurse, sedative for Mr Hurst, please.
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brainiac:

Shut it down!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
chresti:

Hi Sonder! I like your avatar.
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Sonderangebot:

Hi chresti, thank you, hope you are doing OK on your side of the continent.
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Handy Haversack:

I guess it might not be right vs. left, but it *is* capital vs. the rest of us. Not in our name.

Shut it down!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
PaulRobeson1920:

Keynesianism worked in the past... I bet that theory could work again...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
PaulRobeson1920:

Warm Greetings Ya’ll!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi all! Thanks for joining! @DiL pls revise, send caffeine instead
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Mark Hurst:

@Sonderangebot thanks!
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chresti:

Thanks Sonder, went to work today in Griffith Park, where the AQI is a little better than where we live in San Gabriel.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Mark Hurst:

@Ike thanks! always enjoy picking out the playlist images.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
chresti:

A "B" company
  6:26pm
cyrusblazeit420:

Just tuning in. I met Steve when I was in Boston in summer of 2011! I think he told me I should drop out of highschool, haha. I didn’t take his advice, ended up going to college, and years later realized he had a point.
Avatar 6:27pm
dk50b:

When it comes to improving your business acumen the only thing that pops in my head to try sharpening stones and walking on coals
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spodiodi:

hi Mark and everybody!
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Handy Haversack:

Enemy sighted, enemy met, dk50b.
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brainiac:

I've had that Industrial Worker poster up on my wall for the last 17 years.

Hi spodi
  6:30pm
Sam:

Such an awesome idea for a game!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Mark Hurst:

@spodiodi welcome!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
PaulRobeson1920:

Socrates has “a point of view”
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Handy Haversack:

I see you through the haze, spod!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Handy Haversack:

The person hours that the nonprofit where I work spends on Facebook, Instag, Twiter -- pretty much talking only to the social media staffs at other nonprofits in our industry ... well, capital either eats us or eats for us, right?
  6:35pm
David in London:

Hi spodiodi.
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Handy Haversack:

Excellent point. Computers do what they are told. Facebook works exactly as its officers have directed it to work.
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Mark Hurst:

"System is working as designed"
  6:41pm
kevlicki:

Hi mark, Steve and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Mark Hurst:

@kev hi!
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listener james from westwood:

Don't mention Shkreli during the dinner hour!
  6:42pm
David in London:

Kind of like the ‘entrepreneurship’ of some of the tech zillionaire. First invent the internet...
(Mariana Mazzucato etc.)
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Handy Haversack:

What a radical concept: delivering one's people from a plague because they are literally the content of your system. I wonder if such wildness could ever catch on.

"It' sick -- the price of medicine." -- OLD-school Psychedelic Furs!
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spodiodi:

i agree with james (i erased what i'd typed, partly because it included that name at all)
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chresti:

Hi spodi!
  6:44pm
kevlicki:

Great to hear Steve on here. I know him from the activist art world
  6:44pm
P-90:

This “high prices finance new drugs” story capitalizes ruthlessly on the lack of understanding by the public that most of this research is done at universities.
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a5vzener:

I'm a believer in capitalism, because it's only real way to get stuff out of a lab and into the public's hands. But I believe we should extract more from our capitalists in the way of taxes, in large part to help people afford drugs, etc.
  6:44pm
P-90:

I’ve been fuming about this for years...
  6:45pm
kevlicki:

Mark, you should swing by the 79th st Greenmarket some future Sunday. I’m behind the wood Thrush Farm stand every week
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Handy Haversack:

And researchers at universities spend thousands of hours a year securing and securing the renewal of federal funding for that research. So, again, we've paid for it.
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spodiodi:

and thanks, Mark!
and brainiac, Handy, David in London, chresti! good to see you all.
and hello, kevlicki!
  6:45pm
P-90:

Relying on capitalism “to get drugs out of the lab” is the WORST way to do it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
Mark Hurst:

@kev thx, would like that!
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dk50b:

@Handy Haversack songs of that era decrying our drift towards fascism seem so quaint now
  6:46pm
kevlicki:

A5enezerdefine please define “capitalism”,
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brainiac:

Healthcare run as a business instead of a service puts profit above people EVERY TIME.
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a5vzener:

capitalism = private (non-governmental) ownership of the means of production, essentially.
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Mark Hurst:

The five prior capitalism-focused interviews I mentioned at the top of the show all have varying definitions, different opinions about the ideal system etc. etc., but all are united on the basic diagnosis that our current Big Tech-driven system must change.
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a5vzener:

But also believe that healthcare should not be primarily private. I live in Canada and I like our system up here.
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Handy Haversack:

R.E.M. was trying at least, dk50b!

brainiac: and that's bad, right? Because it *sounds* bad.
  6:50pm
Sam:

This guest has a really sexy voice
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brainiac:

It's as bad as bad can be, Handyman.
  6:52pm
P-90:

For a long time I’ve argued that one of the strongest arguments for the adoption of universal healthcare is the negotiating power a government healthcare administration would have: “We’re purchasing X-billion units of this drug or surgical tool. We’re not the only game in town but by far the biggest. Now: who’s got the most competitive bid for our order?”
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a5vzener:

All I'm missing in my life is Dolly Parton.
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Handy Haversack:

Glistener Knormalish pointed out how many problems would likely be solved if we could get Dolly Parton to want to be president.
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northguineahills:

nice!

thanks Mark and Steve!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Handy Haversack:

P-90, I wonder if there are other problems of capitalism that could be solved by socialism. Maybe a private company will research that!

Today's ep. was like coming home, Mark! Thanks so much for it. Thanks, Steve Lambert.

Be well, Techyon Particles. Sure was good to be here with youse.
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spodiodi:

Thanks, Mark and Steve!
  6:55pm
David in London:

Thanks Mark. Good night all.
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spodiodi:

good night, David!
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a5vzener:

@P-90 You're right. Big government negotiation is the key. When I was in journalism school (early 90s) I did a story about the cost of one of those morning-after pills. The cost for one in France was about 10 bucks, versus more than 100 in NYC. Vive le gouvernement!
  6:57pm
kevlicki:

A5vzener agreed that state control doesn’t represent my ideal. I’d argue for more “democracy” in the workplace and more owners of the means of production.
Historically it appears that capitalism constantly attempts to reduce those factors, while privatize what is shared commonly and extract it for the benefit of fewer folks
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Handy Haversack:

Ha, awesome, Mark! I'll tell Knormalish you quoted her on WAB tomorrow!

'Night, David!
  6:57pm
P-90:

Dolly’s much too smart to get involved in such a foolish enterprise...
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ultradamno:

How many Mr. sodas are there...aside from Pibb?
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
  6:57pm
Sam:

Netflix is evil though, right?
  6:58pm
kevlicki:

Stay healthy and well everyone
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Handy Haversack:

The one true Mr., ultradamno.
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spodiodi:

none, ultra, afaik. one of my old monikers
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Sonderangebot:

The heavy cost of the healthcare system could be lightened if consumerist culture fueled by capitalism (hyper processed food; pollution; lack of physical activity; poverty; dependency on petrol) calmed down
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
ultradamno:

Señor Cola?
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brainiac:

Keep fighting the good fight, Mark.

Good night all.
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a5vzener:

Thanks, Mark. great show!
  6:59pm
P-90:

Bravo, Mark.
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone, for tuning in! Appreciate all your good comments & your encouragement this evening.
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dk50b:

Handy nothing against politically conscious artists, more that no one, myself included, imagined how low we'd sink
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Handy Haversack:

Heard, dk50b,
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:10pm
chresti:

Thanks Mark! I was in the shower, gold star for Dolly!
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