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Options June 1, 2020: Summer Madness

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Dorian  From the Land of the Sky-Blue Water   Options From the Land of the Sky Blue Water  Kapp  1956  MP3   
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Kool & The Gang  Summer Madness (Live)   Options The Best Of Kool And The Gang (1969 - 1976)  Mercury  1993  MP3   
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Ivo Malec  Triola - Turpituda   Options Triola  INA-GRM  1978  MP3   
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Panda Bear  Search For Delicious   Options Person Pitch  Paw Tracks  2007  MP3   
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The Field  From Here We Go Sublime   Options From Here We Go Sublime  Kompakt  2007  MP3  https://thefield.bandcamp.com/album/from-here-we-go-sublime 
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Jim O'Rourke  Prelude To The 110 or 220 / Women Of The World   Options Peel Session  Jim O'Rourke  1999  MP3   
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Klein  U Got This   Options Frozen  Klein  2020  MP3  https://klein1997.bandcamp.com/album/frozen 
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The Congos   Open Up The Gate   Options Inna De Yard  Inna De Yard  2005  MP3  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsXp53Mu30s 
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The Dead C  Suffer Bomb Damage   Options Harsh 70's Reality  Siltbreeze  1992  MP3   
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Warren Winter's Band  The Will To Fight   Options Crossbar Hotel  Sophomore Lounge  1988/2019  MP3  https://sophomorelounge.bandcamp.com/album/warren-winters-band-crossbar-hotel 
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Phoebe Snow  Don't Let Me Down   Options It Looks Like Snow  Columbia  1976  MP3   
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Moodymann  Let Me In   Options Taken Away  KDJ  2020  MP3  https://moodymann.bandcamp.com/album/taken-away-kdj-49 
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Ainsoph  Maggot Brain   Options Ω - V  Wolves of Hades Records  2020  MP3  https://wolvesofhades.bandcamp.com/album/v 
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23 Skidoo  Kundalini   Options 7 Songs  Fetish Records  1982  MP3   
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Keith Leblanc  Steps   Options Stranger Than Fiction  Enigma  1989  MP3   
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Sods  Marble Station   Options Under En Sort Sol  Medley Records  1980  MP3   
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Vault  Leader Of The Pack   Options No More Escape  N.O.N. Records  1983  MP3   
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This Heat  Makeshift Swahili   Options Deceit  Rough Trade  1981  MP3  https://thisheat.bandcamp.com/album/deceit 
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GOYA  PUSHOUT   Options GOYA IS A DEAD MAN  Church of Goya  2018  MP3  https://goyamusic.bandcamp.com/album/goya-is-a-dead-man 
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Valium Aggelein  Bird Wings   Options The Black Moon  Numero Group  2020  MP3  https://dusternumero.bandcamp.com/album/the-black-moon 
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Deuter  Evening   Options Princess Of Dawn - Soundtrack  Black Sweat Records  1973/2018  MP3  https://blacksweat.bandcamp.com/album/princess-of-dawn-soundtrack 
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Moses Sumney  Gagarin   Options græ  Jagjaguwar  2020  MP3  https://mosessumney.bandcamp.com/album/gr-2 
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Nine Horses  The Banality Of Evil   Options Snow Borne Sorrow  Samadhisound  2005  MP3   
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The Soft Pink Truth  Grace   Options Shall We Go On Sinning So That Grace May Increase?  Thrill Jockey  2020  MP3  https://thesoftpinktruth.bandcamp.com/album/shall-we-go-on-sinning-so-that-grace-may-increase 
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Nick Storring  Now Neither One Of Us Is Breaking   Options My Magic Dreams Have Lost Their Spell  Orange Milk Records  2020  MP3  https://orangemilkrecords.bandcamp.com/album/my-magic-dreams-have-lost-their-spell 
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Deftones  Be Quiet And Drive (Far Away) (Acoustic)   Options B-Sides & Rarities  Maverick  2005  MP3   
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Old Man Gloom  By Love All Is Healed   Options Seminar VIII: Light Of Meaning  Profound Lore  2020  MP3  https://profoundlorerecords.bandcamp.com/album/seminar-viii-light-of-meaning 
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Nackt Insecten  Circadian Rhythm   Options Sick Animal Eyes  At War With False Noise  2006  MP3   
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Kazuma Kubota  Drown   Options Mind  Opal Tapes  2020  MP3  https://opaltapes.com/album/mind 
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Boris  Flood II   Options Flood  Fangs Anal Satan   2000  MP3   
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Ivo Malec  Ombra   Options Triola  INA-GRM  1976  MP3   
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Jefre Cantu-Ledesma  Little Deer Isle   Options In Summer  Geographic North  2016  MP3  https://shiningskullstudio.bandcamp.com/album/in-summer 
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His Name Is Alive  We Hold The Land In Great Esteem   Options Great Lakes State Blues  time STEREO  199?  MP3   
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Grouper  Poison Tree   Options Inca Ore / Grouper  Acuarela Discos   2008  MP3   
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Dorian  To A Water Lily   Options From the Land of the Sky Blue Water  Kapp  1956  MP3   
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Akron/Family  Don't Be Afraid, You're Already Dead   Options Love Is Simple  Young God  2007  MP3  https://akronfamily.bandcamp.com/album/love-is-simple 
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Listener comments!

Avatar 12:01am RabidRabbit:

Good time of day to everyone:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:01am Mr. Pumpy:

sv...hey!
  12:01am hoky hairickson:

hamms beer
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:01am spodiodi:

hey SV! hey everybody!
  12:02am hoky hairickson:

sasha the bear
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:02am chresti:

Hi sv and everyone in their places.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:03am Mr. Pumpy:

Hello to everyone staying out of danger, living the life. The music is a problem solver...
  12:04am hoky hairickson:

don't be mistaken by schmidt beer or who false claims where the land of sky blue water. st paul was once named pigs eye
Avatar 12:04am ToTetsu:

Everyoooone
In their riiiight plaaace
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:04am chresti:

I heard something that made me think there was an alert sounding on my phone.
  12:05am hoky hairickson:

gotta go yo
  12:05am duck:

hellloo
Avatar 12:05am sv:

hello everyone
  12:05am hoky hairickson:

good stuff. thanks. do something for others.
  12:06am JakeGould:

@MrPumpy: True. But while in Brooklyn today I saw a guy socially distanced 3 stories up on a building and doing wolf whistles to anybody/everybody/everything that passed by. Made me laugh at the corny “Hey, I’m trapped at home and this is how I entertain myself…” idea this guy had.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:07am spodiodi:

JakeGould, that made me laugh earlier ("... at everyone! .. dogs.") lol
  12:08am JakeGould:

@Spodiodi: Yup! I was sitting down eating tacos and just constantly hearing “Wooo… Wooo!” and saw it. Best idea ever!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:09am spodiodi:

gave us a good laugh here, Jake. thank you for sharing
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:09am coelacanth∅:

greetings sv and nowhere creatures
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:09am spodiodi:

hey coelacanth
Avatar 12:10am ToTetsu:

That like the guys who drove past me shouting "heckle! Heecklee!" when I was in university.
Avatar 12:10am ToTetsu:

I couldn't help but be impressed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:10am coelacanth∅:

hahaha -"hecklers"!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:11am coelacanth∅:

hey spodi!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:11am Mr. Pumpy:

coel...hey!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:11am spodiodi:

twice in my life, i've had cars full of women/girls catcall at me (quite the unexpected ego boost)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:12am Mr. Pumpy:

This sounds very much like the chrome plated megaphone of destiny!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:13am spodiodi:

coel, your icon gave me a good idea last night (in a roundabout way) -- i'll show you what i come up with when it's ready
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:13am coelacanth∅:

hey Mr.P! you check out today's temp res offering? i really like it
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:14am Mr. Pumpy:

coel, not yet...I was busy. I read the bio and forgot. I'll check it!
  12:14am JakeGould:

“Hey good looking! We’ll be back to pick you up later!” youtu.be...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:17am Mr. Pumpy:

"I got one! I got one! I got one! I got $10! I only got $5! I was told I'd get another job! I slept with the director's brother!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:18am coelacanth∅:

spodi @12.11 something almost like that happens to me a lot, where a carfull of babes is driving by and they're leaning out the windows to catcall at me but i turn at the last second and shut their mouths and slink back in the windows
  12:19am JakeGould:

That one guy who is dancing down the road with his radio as if his legs would fall off? Best performance ever… Sold me!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:20am chresti:

Man this is great!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:20am Fox:

hullo everyone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:20am mariano:

BWAAAA HAHAHAHA! "Trump fled to bunker as protests over George Floyd raged outside White House" www.theguardian.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:21am spodiodi:

coel, not a bad problem to have. usually, people cross the street to avoid me, especially people w/bebes
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:21am coelacanth∅:

spodi -speaking of avatars did you get that shot? the one in your avatar?
i love it!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:21am spodiodi:

no but photo credit in profile, coel! it's a coyote on a roof in sf an 5/18? (in sfgate . com)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:22am spodiodi:

i mentioned it in Jeff's show to johnzo (i think), who mentioned he'd seen one in a parking lot(?)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:22am Mr. Pumpy:

mariano...these leaders should learn how to handle the pressure and take care of their cities better. HAHAHA!!! I know, DC's mayor is also a democrat...he'll spout off on that too.
Avatar 12:23am slugluv1313:

greetings, sv and everyone!
just got home, walking from Jersey City Heights -- never experienced Jersey City or Hoboken so unbelievably quiet and desolate -- i kinda like it!
then, unfortunately, saw news footage of violence all over the country -- police going batsh*t crazy -- sickeningly enough targeting people protesting police brutality
  12:23am scobot:

All is perfect when Jim O'Rourke shows up. Thank you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:24am spodiodi:

grab 'em by the DRUMPF (bunker boy)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:25am mariano:

I'm just thinking of Trump saying how he would've heroically taken down that school shooter singlehanded. Another feelgood headline: "Confederate monument torn down in Birmingham, Alabama"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:25am spodiodi:

hi Fox
hi slugluv1313
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:26am chresti:

I wonder if the bunker gets internet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:27am coelacanth∅:

do 5-star hotels have internet?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:29am spodiodi:

this Jim O'Rourke sounds really good
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:29am chresti:

Maybe he'll spend the rest of his term there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:29am coelacanth∅:

haha,spodi -my catcalls post was a joke but i don't think it made the leap from brain to post very well!
Avatar 12:30am slugluv1313:

@ mariano -- "the president and his family were rattled by their experience on Friday night" -- oh those poor little babies!
what the *bleep* they doing in the White House then???
(cueing up "Fight Dem Back" in my head . . . "we gon na smash their brains in/cause they ain't got nothink in dem")
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:30am spodiodi:

my mistake, coel -- i read babes as babies 8^B
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:31am coelacanth∅:

hey Fox, slugluv!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:31am coelacanth∅:

haha slugluv -LKJ!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:32am Fox:

This song is a happy pre covid memory. During the marathon, I assume? Scott was playing the organ and it faded into this song, and Yvonne started singing "women of the world....", and it was a really perfect moment of life.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:32am coelacanth∅:

haha spodi that's funnier!
  12:32am duck:

this sounds like the little fairy thing in the ewok adventure special
Avatar 12:33am slugluv1313:

hiya Fox, spodiodi, coelacanthø
yup! LKJ been burning through my brain
TRYING to figure out something positive/constructive to DO about all this crap
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:35am coelacanth∅:

sometimes destruction is constructive
Avatar 12:36am slugluv1313:

omg THE CONGOS!!!
sv you are the best!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:37am Ken From Hyde Park:

Greetings, citizens of Nowheresville.
Avatar 12:38am slugluv1313:

@ coelacanthø -- ya, like that whole Kali the Destroyer, Tarot Death card, etc. realm
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:42am Scott Williams:

@Fox, I'm glad you remembered that - that was a really nice moment, just before everything.
Avatar 12:42am RabidRabbit:

Loved The Congos:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:43am Fox:

Scott - I made sure to store it in my head. While it was happening I had the thought that I should video it, but I decided to enjoy the perfectness of it instead.
Avatar 12:44am slugluv1313:

@ mariano -- hah! thanks for that reminder re: Trump being all *heroic* -- yeah most bullies are cowards at heart (well if they actually HAVE a heart)
  12:56am Tookie Wuthry Guffy:

i’m hoping my chances of seeing the otters at the snake farm isn’t effected by me or others...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:59am mariano:

"I like a guy who doesn't run away to a bunker when there's a demonstration in front of the White House." The ghost of McCain is probably having a well-earned posthumous chuckle.
  1:00am NLsn:

Yeah, maggot brain!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:01am mariano:

slugluv: Lol. I bet Kushner's wearing that flac jacket again.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:12am mb:

sveee

Is it a known known that you(Me) can't acess the playlist from the main page?
  1:13am glue_horizon:

On Fremonts peak, bees buzzing by
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:14am spodiodi:

mb, works as expected for me
Avatar 1:14am sv:

huh, that's odd, mb - i didn't have any trouble opening the playlist from the main page.
Avatar 1:15am sv:

commons.wikimedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:20am Fox:

Sooooo, while I understand and support the protests, how much do you think they are going to utterly fuck all the Covid progress we'd made in slowing the curve? Other countries are gonna close their borders to us. Fitting, really.
  1:22am glue_horizon:

A powerful track
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:22am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em):

Hello, sv and WFMU folx. I love starting the day with destination: OUT and ending it with Nowhere Places
Avatar 1:26am slugluv1313:

@ Fox -- right?
was talking with a friend about this earlier, how no-one from the States will be able to go to other countries

also, how apparently a bunch of the people partying over Memorial Day weekend (in Missouri, i think? i remember seeing the crowds, just do not recall exactly where they were) are *now* testing positive for COVID-19
Avatar 1:27am ToTetsu:

@fox isn't that part of the whole deficiency of ideologies that produce inequality? We're connected, and if you let some people be in endemically bad situations, then it's going to come back around to be bad for everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:29am Fox:

ToTetsu: Yeah, that's why, for the life of me, I don't understand why the overclass doesn't just do the bare minimum to keep the middle class happy. All this shit was happening in the 90's, but nobody cared, because the white middle class was content. It's in the 1%'s best interest to keep us happy. Crushing us like this is how guillotines happen.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:30am Fox:

Not that I'm anywhere near middle class.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:31am mariano:

Yeah, always had you figured for a 1%er, Fox.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:32am Fox:

Maybe on the other end of the spectrum, I am!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:32am spodiodi:

Fox: greed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:32am spodiodi:

shortsighted greed
Avatar 1:33am ToTetsu:

Man I might have to go live in Wellington when I move back to NZ if they have grunge like this..
Avatar 1:36am slugluv1313:

@ Fox -- yes, surely that "let them eat cake!" attitude is not only alive but thriving
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:37am Fox:

I suppose therein lies the difference between the parties. One is at least smart enough to placate the masses with the bare minimum.
Avatar 1:40am ToTetsu:

My FB feed is telling me that "bad faith actors" are purposely escalating the violence of protests. .. With the pandemic of information warfare also raging on, .. I wonder what the right response in these times is to systems of politics and society ignoring a large group of peoples needs and anger.. Protest, and demonstrations are what we all know.. but it seems like there should be another way..
  1:40am rw:

Evening! Checking in and back out again. Thanks sv. Beautiful radio for this weird moment. Take care everyone. Stay safe and do the best you can.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:41am CarolCrow:

Thank you for the Deuter! Love that one!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:41am mariano:

That's the thing, Fox - the corporatocracy needs us to consume their shitty products. So just pay us off and let's get to consumin'. Well, at least it made sense the other night after a toke.
  1:43am BH:

Wonder what the venn diagram looks like for "people showing up around protests" and "people who have lost their jobs since mid-March". The April unemployment rate ages 20-24 is 26%
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:43am spodiodi:

UBI
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:43am mariano:

'Evening Carol.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:44am Fox:

I have been personally quite livid at NJ deciding to let Food Stamps be used online (finally!) but only allowing Walmart, Amazon, Shop Rite, and some other company I've never heard of to do so.

What little money I have to spend into the economy is forced into the hands of these neo robber barons. Fuckers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:44am CarolCrow:

'Evening mariano.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:44am Fox:

Even my poverty and hunger is monetized by corporate dragons, hoarding gold beyond reason.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:45am mariano:

There's this weird American mentality that if someone's on food stamps, they should be punished and not be allowed to get nice things. It's like "Next time don't be so poor."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:46am Fox:

Right. This is EXACTLY the circumstances to lead people into the streets. What else do they have to do? they are jobless, and that 1200 doesn't go very far, not it NYC at least.
Avatar 1:46am ToTetsu:

@mariano relevant sarah silverman show clip
www.cc.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:47am Fox:

mariano- Yup. Im hoping that the economic doom tsunami that will crash over America will give people a kinder outlook on things like food stamps and other benefits, and the people who use them.
  1:49am BH:

the April percentages by age
16-19: 32% (34% unemployment if you're 18-19)
20-24: 26%
25-34: 14.5%

So the age demos that probably always lose their jobs first lost their jobs first. Which when you add the possible POV about which age groups are effected the most by current pandemics...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:50am mariano:

ToTetsu: Haha, funny clip! "Rotation phones".
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:50am spodiodi:

too funny
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:51am mariano:

Hey, that clip was meant for *me* spodi.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:52am spodiodi:

and i waited until you replied, mariano ;) :P
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:53am spodiodi:

already justified in my mind with that fact, and that this is a public place ;) (don't think i didn't think of YOU FIRST ;)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:54am spodiodi:

i'm guilty of: typing too much, and butting in to other conversations :-B among other things *ahem*
Avatar 1:56am slugluv1313:

same here, Fox -- LAST place i want to use my food stamps is at Amazon, etc.
i worked at a welfare agency from 2005 to 2010 -- many applicants had had decent jobs, never thought they would have to apply for any sort of public assistance -- thankfully not elitist about it or anything, but totally lost, clueless . . . so constantly hearing unemployment numbers going up higher and higher, i can only imagine what this is all going to look like in a couple of years
  1:58am BH:

also, when it comes to certain checks.. I'd think the higher percentages of people who don't qualify for those checks are younger?
  1:58am JakeGould:

Just on Twitter and learned that looting and fires are happening in Washington D.C. and there are mobs of looters in SoHo all over the place.
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Looters are not protestors and the protests ended hours ago. Pretty confident that whoever is out there right now in SoHo had nothing to do with the protests that happened across the city today.
Avatar 1:59am slugluv1313:

and kinder, empathetic is right!
when i worked there, SO many of the employees treated the applicants like they were criminals or something
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:59am chresti:

Thanks sv, good night everyone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:06am Fox:

Y'know what? I don't care anymore who is looting and who is protesting. It's probably instigators. But maybe it's not. Maybe it's the people who don't give a fuck about peaceful protests and they are angry and they are fed up and this is how that manifests. Regardless, the entire situation has been brought to this crisis point from the same tributaries.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:06am spodiodi:

night, chresti
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:07am Fox:

Goodnight, chresti!
Avatar 2:12am RabidRabbit:

@Fox 100%. Regardless, any riot is always the fault of the government structures...it means that they have mismanaged the people's concerns and allowed the pressure to build up.
  2:20am JakeGould:

Unless the looters are white kids (seems like it) slumming and riding in on the coattails of the suffering of non-whites.
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It’s become a major problem at all the protests that white kids are riding in and causing property damage in the name of black people making peaceful protestors (mostly black) and their communities bigger targets.
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If you care about what happened to George Floyd you should be concerned about white kids slumming in violence for their own kicks.
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The job of white people at protests is to hold space and support non-whites because white people have entitlement and privilege to buffer it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:20am mariano:

Haha spodi! Sorry, didn't realize I'd been away from the keyboard for so long. Even the minutes go by faster when you're old!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:21am mariano:

Night chresti.
Avatar 2:21am slugluv1313:

@ Fox and RabidRabbit -- yes (remembering the riots in the 1960s)
  2:25am BH:

if we're assembling a profile for white people who get arrested for their "activities" at protests, the guy arrested in Nashville for setting a fire at the courthouse was a 25yo wearing a Deadpool tshirt in his twitter perp walk pic.

Sorry, Deadpool fans who are good people.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:27am mariano:

Huh, didn't know this: the Richie Havens song "Klansman" (Jeff played it earlier) was written by Alan Arkin and his father David.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:28am Fox:

Jake - Yeah, that's a good point. I hear it from both sides, though. Some think that blaming the violence and looting on instigators takes the teeth and righteous anger out of the protest itself, and helps perpetuate the status quo. Others think that the violence is ruining the movement for change.

Sure, cops are definitely trying to get things ugly and turn things into a riot so they can crush it, and leftist angry white people need to step back and realize they have NOTHING compared to the issues black america has with the police. But at the same time.... *shrug* how long can nothing change in the face of murder? How long can we know that white supremacists are targeting the police for their ideology and do nothing about it? I can't judge the destruction.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:29am Fox:

mariano - ooooh! That reminds me! I have to find and watch Catch My Soul, a Richie Havens musical of Othello, direted by Patrick McGoohan. I've been on a huge McGoohan kick again recently.
  2:30am BH:

from what i'm reading, i'm not sure if PDs like using tear gas more or pepper spray

I think cities handled a pandemic better than the stuff that they usually have to do, which is a bit of a "priorities" thing?
  2:32am JakeGould:

If you have not been at any of these recent protests you honestly have utterly no right to judge the reactions of people who have been there. I only went to one today.
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I know others who have been at protests in the past few days and the pattern is clear: The protestors who are peaceful are truly not connected to the rioters and looters.
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And many people out there have problems differentiating they two will just blame the peaceful protestors for actions they do not condone, do not support and will put them in danger. The black community will suffer because white kids want to cosplay and live action role play what pain and outrage mean.
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Anyway good night people.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:33am spodiodi:

goodnight Jake
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:35am tom from Glasgow:

man, i haven't heard Flood for years. good morning SV and friends
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:35am mariano:

Night Jake.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:37am mariano:

Fox: wait, what now? A Richie friggin' Havens adaptation of Othello directed by The Prisoner? How did I not learn about this in 51 years?
Avatar 2:41am slugluv1313:

re: instigators, fake protestors, etc. -- i have heard all sorts of stories, how the KKK, alt-right groups, etc., are sending in "their" people to protests so they can start shit -- so a peaceful protest gets violent, and makes the protestors look bad to all those suburbanites "tsk tsk"-ing in front of their TVs . . . and then of course random jerks who want to "start a riot" not because they support a cause, but because they think it is "fun" and maybe they will get on TV

then you gotta wonder about law enforcement deliberately planting undercover people . . . this was a huge caution years ago, when we (animal rights activists) were considered the number one terrorist threat in the country -- and it continues now; a friend in Oakland posted a statement that if one is going to any of the protests, be sure that you are with friends or groups who you know and trust
  2:41am JakeGould:

@Fox: “I can't judge the destruction.” Because you utterly miss the point. You are not black and neither am I. And we both have life baggage but even with that baggage we still have privilege.
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Even in our mutual worst days/states we are inherently at a better position in the world than than anyone at any level in the black community and to just shrug it off as “both sides” only future shines the light in the fact that neither of us would ever be targets in the same way as a black protestor will be.
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I honestly don’t care one bit about luxury stores being looted. Property is not important than life. But I do care about peaceful protestors potentially being harmed by the implied actions of others supposedly “acting on their behalf.”
  2:44am JakeGould:

Goodnight really now!
  2:47am BH:

you can check out any time you like but you can never leave
Avatar 2:48am Hubig Pie:

I signed in to say this song is beautiful
Avatar 2:49am slugluv1313:

"Little Deer Isle" and "We Hold The Land in Great Esteem" so perfect, those birds! i am grateful it is (mostly) quiet outside and one is actually able to HEAR the birds singing :)
THANK-YOU, sv!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:49am robbo in sydney:

It's so cool - love it. Great show SV!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:50am Fox:

Jake: Dude. I am saying, I am not there. I am not witness. I am seeing and hearing different accounts by people who ARE there. As such, I do not know conclusively what is going on. It's not all shitty white people doing the looting and instigating. But since I do not know, and I am not black, I am not going to judge what is going on.

Please don't lecture me about my white privilege, man. I don't need that shit explained to me.
  2:50am pp:

hnia brightens the day
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:52am Fox:

Shit, guys. There's fires in the East Village.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:53am mariano:

Thanks sv and Scott, have a good night/day everyone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:53am mariano:

Oh no, really Fox? Ugh.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:54am Fox:

So say people in the EV.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:56am spodiodi:

thanks, sv -- great show
thanks, Scott
hope to see you all again soon
Avatar 2:57am sv:

last one from me - love y'all. stay safe. solidarity to all protesting. see you next week.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 2:58am Fox:

Good night, and thank you!
  2:59am Adam from the Shadows:

Thank you for your most excellent effort this morning.
  2:59am JakeGould:

@Fox: “I am saying, I am not there. I am not witness.” I have been at today’s protest I. Brooklyn. I did so for the reasons you explain. My friends were at the protests yesterday and today. One was specifically at the NYPD SUV rundown on Flatbush and Saint Marks. Another saw NYPD instigation. And my own ideas about agitators are not wildly generic; it is simply based on what I — and others at these protest — have seen.
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All I said to begin with is simply looting is happening in SoHo and Washington, D.C. That’s it.
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Holding space is of value. Sorry for the multiple “Byes!” but seriously.
Avatar 3:00am slugluv1313:

thank-you so much, sv!
have a great week, everyone!
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