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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Positive Causes  The International House of Pancakes   Favoriting Testing Negative for Positive Causes  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Tiger Lillies  Social Distancing   Favoriting COVID-19  0:00:49 (Pop-up)
Desertion Trio  Busy Port   Favoriting Twilight Time  0:02:33 (Pop-up)
Go! Team  The Answer's No - Now What's the Question?   Favoriting Semicircle  0:08:08 (Pop-up)
Chip Wickham  Sling Shot   Favoriting La Sombra  0:12:50 (Pop-up)
 
Lord Melody  Shirley (Starving)   Favoriting Calypsos by Lord Melody  0:22:28 (Pop-up)
Elmo Hope  My Heart Stood Still   Favoriting Hope-Full  0:26:26 (Pop-up)
Joe Frank  Bible Salesman (excerpt)   Favoriting Somewhere Out There  0:33:45 (Pop-up)
Bullion  I Know There's An Answer   Favoriting Pet Sounds: In the Key of Dee  0:39:55 (Pop-up)
 
Melenas  Cartel de neón   Favoriting Melenas  0:43:06 (Pop-up)
Gene Ripon  Spring Comes to You at the Farthest / Piano Instrumental   Favoriting thrift store cassette found by Mei Clover  0:46:57 (Pop-up)
Dune  Nothing Compares 2 U   Favoriting Forever  0:51:07 (Pop-up)
Prudence  A Smile and a Ribbon   Favoriting I Want To Be A Singer (Irwin's 2012 marathon premium CD)  0:55:41 (Pop-up)
 
Boy Azooga  U.F.O.   Favoriting U.F.O. (single)  1:01:43 (Pop-up)
Mulatu Astatke  The Way to Nice   Favoriting Mulatu Steps Ahead  1:04:22 (Pop-up)
Chip Wickham  Route One   Favoriting Blue to Red  1:09:31 (Pop-up)
Lane Steinberg  Lost in the Stars   Favoriting new recording  1:16:25 (Pop-up)
 
Irwin Chusid  The Jim Creighton Story   Favoriting Creighton born today, April 15, 1841  1:20:20 (Pop-up)
Shabaka and the Ancestors  The Coming of the Strange Ones   Favoriting We Are Sent Here by History  1:33:32 (Pop-up)
Anna Burch  The Party's Over   Favoriting If You're Dreaming  1:40:32 (Pop-up)
Rizzo  I Don't Care   Favoriting Cherrystones: Critical Mass/Splinters from the Worldwide New-Wave, Post-Punk and Industrial Underground 1978–1984  1:43:25 (Pop-up)
 
John Prine  The Sins of Memphisto   Favoriting The Missing Years  1:49:44 (Pop-up)
Advance Base  Come Back to Us Barbara Lewis Hare Krishna Beauregard   Favoriting advancebase.bandcamp.com  1:54:12 (Pop-up)
Drab City  Working for the Men   Favoriting Good Songs for Bad People  1:57:39 (Pop-up)
 
Nitemate  Something Might Happen   Favoriting Nitemate  2:01:46 (Pop-up)
Khan Jamal Percussion and Strings Quartet  Cool   Favoriting Cool  2:06:07 (Pop-up)
The Nihilist Spasm Band  I'm a Meateater   Favoriting No Borders  2:11:42 (Pop-up)
The Thermals  Born to Kill   Favoriting Desperate Ground  2:12:38 (Pop-up)
The Proud Girl  The Proud Girl is Sick   Favoriting home recording by MR  2:14:14 (Pop-up)
Richard Peterson  Second Album   Favoriting The Second Album  2:19:05 (Pop-up)
Eerie Wanda  Couldn't Tell   Favoriting Pet Town  2:22:03 (Pop-up)
 
Marble Arch  Instant Love   Favoriting Children of the Slump  2:25:45 (Pop-up)
David Greenberger and Prime Lens  Sears Recliners   Favoriting Good Perspective  2:30:15 (Pop-up)
Oranger  Mr. Sandman   Favoriting Stubbs the Zombie (The Soundtrack)  2:31:40 (Pop-up)
Hy Zaret/Lou Singer (composers)  Mental Health Toast   Favoriting Sing-Along for Mental Health  2:34:32 (Pop-up)
Ivana XL (Eddi Front)  Stayinsane NY   Favoriting Love, Santa  2:35:18 (Pop-up)
 
Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers  It's Only a Paper Moon (R.I.P. bassist Jymie Merritt)   Favoriting The Big Beat  2:39:28 (Pop-up)
John McLaughlin  Dragon Song   Favoriting Devotion  2:46:00 (Pop-up)
Bent Knee  Catch Light   Favoriting You Know What They Mean  2:50:09 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  2:54pm
Listener Robert:

I spent a while wondering what "titty or sock money" meant...until I took it literally and understood it in context.
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zopa:

But sock money is how I pay for my booze!
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Handy Haversack:

Hi, Irwin, everyone!

I want that sign as a T-shirt. And billboard. And sky writing.
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brainiac:

Is blacking out now considered drinking responsibly?
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Stevel:

#tittyorsockmoney #youcoughyoudie
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Hopey Sockmonkey:

That sign is the real shit, indeed.
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Stevel:

Tiger Lillies are sweeping the nation like a virus with their new hit Social Distancing!
  3:03pm
John in Bklyn:

That was a cover of a Kurt Weill song.
Hi Irwin and Chusidians!
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Listening Out There:

Obviously, a typo in the sign. Meant "sock monkey"...
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

omg of course that was the Tiger Lillies
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hypothete:

This track is saving me money on coffee
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Irwin:

This is a Les Baxter cover.
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Alison Porchnik:

That's the virus talking, Irwin.
  3:07pm
spodiodi:

anyone know the titty to sock currency exchange rate?
aloha, Irwin
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Hopey Sockmonkey:

@Listening Out There: but how will I get my drink on??
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Listening Out There:

@Hopey Sockmonkey: Wait for your stimulus check from Mr. T....
  3:10pm
BH:

Hopefully regulations will govern the sheer number of syrupy covid-inspired love ballads that could emerge as a result of this.
  3:10pm
spiderbit:

absolutely all you need to know
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Irwin:

BH: Pandemic of a different order. A musical plague.
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common:

irwin, all
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zopa:

@spodiodi: $20. Same as in town.
  3:14pm
Dave Miss:

Howdy Quar-Irwin-tinos
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Irwin:

This is from Chip Wickham's first album (2017). Track from his new album coming up later in the show.
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The Oscar:

Afternoon-- learning the Tiger Lillies are still active is the pleasant surprise of the day!
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Otis Fodder:

Why hello there everyone. Howdy Sir Ir!
  3:17pm
John in Bklyn:

Nice stuff! Vamp reminds me of Joe Henderson.
  3:17pm
jan:

Sling shot - had to stop multitasking and listen
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Otis Fodder:

I've been eating so much cake, I can use coins as titty money, wet bills still in the socks.
  3:20pm
Laura L:

Hi Otis and all!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

You'd think that face masks with handy, convenient drinking ports would be popular with the drinking public.
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Irwin:

Laura, please don't bail. Muriel will leave the room after this track.
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Handy Haversack:

"Handy: convenient drinking port" is an epithet I could live with.
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Hopey Sockmonkey:

@Ken FHP: I think you are onto something there . . . My partner saw men on street corners in LA selling cloth face masks, so you would do well to fill an obvious need.
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Alison Porchnik:

@Handy Isn't that also known as a mouth?
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Handy Haversack:

Mouths are so 2019, @Alison! This is the future! It's gotta have zazz!
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Ruby from Amherst:

@Irwin: Passover last day is today, ends tonight
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Irwin:

Ruby: Passover ends April 16 nightfall, according to my sources. Wrong?
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Irwin:

Checking again, every source says tomorrow night.
  3:31pm
Laura L:

Nah, I didn't bail--there's enough bailing going on in the world today!
  3:31pm
David in London:

Evening all, evening Irwin. Hey Handy, survived your meet OK?
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Handy Haversack:

Hey, David: Survived it and survived exercise time, even. It's all coming up Handy!

Whatever that was from, we just watched it recently.
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Seanbelly:

Please let that sign be real!
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Itzall Gön'gett-Bettresuhnn:

Oh man. Joe Frank.
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βrian:

Oh great holy fuck! This is great to hear again!
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chris:

thanks for this, Frank family and Irwin!
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Devin B.:

So happy to hear Joe Frank!!
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Nanker de Tucson:

Love the flashback to Joe Frank time!
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Acid Cazh:

That monologue about Superman — what was that from??
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brainiac:

Kill Bill II
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Acid Cazh:

Thanks brainiac!
  3:37pm
egould310:

Joe Frank, nice.
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happymaan:

I have a huge Joe Frank collection I made a few years ago.
  3:37pm
Beetlemuse:

Yes, good to hear Joe again :)
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Handy Haversack:

Ah, right -- KBII. We*did* watch that recently. Time might still be linear! But I am not going to wager much on it.
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Andrew_in_WI:

Who did that Joe Frank tribute last year?
  3:38pm
David in London:

Damn, Joe Frank is always so amazing.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Taking copious notes on these sales tactics, in case this isn't in the archve.
  3:39pm
Mike tp:

have to thank wfmu for getting JOE FRANK into my noodle.
  3:39pm
David in London:

Especially with Can as his backing band.
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happymaan:

Yes, who @Andrew?
  3:40pm
berbo:

Thomas Jefferson also "edited" his own version of the bible. So really this is all patriotic.
  3:40pm
Beetlemuse:

where can I buy a Joe Frank Bible?
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Brian in UK:

Hello Irwin. Just played Pet Sounds whilst cooking dinner to try and glean something. Failed again.
  3:43pm
BH:

One of the stations broadcasts in 5G and causes all sorts of awful things. The other broadcasts in standard and causes the same awful things.
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Handy Haversack:

@Brian in UK, you might need to hear it over WMFU to get full demoniac effect.
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James Douglas:

Those satanic messages on WMFU are for all the jerkoffs in Rockland and Orange counties. Glen and X.Ray helped in the plans.
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βrian:

Took me a while to fathom what in hell "titty (or sock) money" was.
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Brian in UK:

@HH grown men called The BBs singing teenage laments. Something is not right.
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happymaan:

@andrew wfmu.org... this it?
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happymaan:

wfmu.org... another
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Cp304:

whoa
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Alison Porchnik:

Nico on testosterone
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tak:

imagine being heartbroken in this economy. loved that piano tune
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Handy Haversack:

Well, this demo got a "whoa!" from Kate, so there's something going on!
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Irwin:

You can say this guy can't sing, but you can't say he didn't sing.
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Cp304:

no he said nothin compares
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brainiac:

They really scraped the bottom of the barrel with those Prince demo releases
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Irwin:

Despite his awkward delivery, IMHO this guy's got soul.
  3:53pm
John in Bklyn:

Angelic choir +
  3:53pm
David in London:

This is amazing. I love it.
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Andrew_in_WI:

@happymaan Thanks!
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Cmurtha:

this is gold
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queems:

excellent enunciation
  3:54pm
The Butterman:

That was. Joe Frank tease. I want a whole, half hour!
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Itzall Gön'gett-Bettresuhnn:

Is he really worse than the guy from Depeche Mode?
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Hopey Sockmonkey:

I can really feel what this version is laying down.
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Cp304:

yes it is great!
  3:54pm
David in London:

It’s like Dracula singing a Prince composition rather wistfully.
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Brian in UK:

A neighbour of FM Cornog's?
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Sweet Corn Lizzie:

I saw the Tiger Lillies a long time ago doing the music for Shockheaded Peter!

handy haversack I like that t shirt idea
  3:55pm
John in Bklyn:

It's like Laibach with a lighter touch.
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tak:

being a dracula aint easy
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

@tak dying
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βrian:

Somehow reminds me of Chocolate Rain, too.
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Listening Out There:

Unknown is proof that all Austrians have soul....
  3:55pm
BH:

The Romantic Side of Dracula, coming out soon on Columbia Records.
  3:55pm
Laura L:

Let's hope that not being able to sing will never stop anyone from singing--as long as they record it!
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Mr. Pumpy:

Stephin Merritt got into the qualude jar and found a casio keyboard..
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Handy Haversack:

You just know there's some THICK fog out this guy's window. Er, casement.
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chris:

maybe this is proof, this song is so damn great anyone can do it, if ya feel it.
  3:56pm
David in London:

That needs to be on heavy rotation on Soft 91.9
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

you guys are killing it
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CarB:

You are psychic. This is what I wanting hear!
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Otis Fodder:

My patience for prudence is everlasting.
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Handy Haversack:

Bringing all you Draculas and sad, sad Ghormenghast ghosts the best feel-good vibes: soft 91.1!
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brainiac:

Enid from Ghost World listens to "A Smile and a Ribbon" right before she decides to kill herself.
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Brian in UK:

Steerpike rules.
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βrian:

I do love this clappy bed music.
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Threemoons:

Hello all
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Otis Fodder:

Vivian is really digging up some wonders that she shares with the Sheena bunch in the jungle room too. That tape was just great.
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tak:

cryptotapes
  4:03pm
William Main:

@Brainiac: That's where I heard this song before!
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Jeff Moore:

"A Smile and a Ribbon" reminds me of a friend's description of the family situation she grew up in. The parents were warring alcoholics having knock-down drag-outs downstairs and scarring the children; my friend's sister coped by immersing herself in cheerfulness and Disney songs and singing them loudly and obsessively upstairs to drown out the chaos. That sister left home as soon as she could to work for the mouse. I wonder how many of the people workin' for the mouse have similar backgrounds...
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Irwin:

Vivian records under the name Dr. Airlines. She's got some good outsidery stuff. Has also recorded some duets with Daniel Johnston. Find her on Bandcamp.
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

why does this remind me of NRBQ?
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Otis Fodder:

Wow, okay, this is damn good. And my Jim Sullivan tastescope is pretty high. Will check out Boy Azooga now, thanks Irwin!
  4:04pm
John in Bklyn:

Wow, was the whole mix just tremeloed? Nice effect.
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Otis Fodder:

Dr Airlines has covered our version of Mr Snuggles (with Michelle) and she covered our Bran song "I have a friend" too. Oh yeaaa!
  4:05pm
flashbazbo:

Unknown huh? I know bootleg Lou Reed when I hear it.
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brainiac:

@William: that old guy Norman waiting for the bus was a powerful metaphor
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Otis Fodder:

Haaa, that could've been Lou!
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Alison Porchnik:

@Jeff, speaking of working for the mouse, check this out. economicrt.org...
  4:13pm
William Main:

@Brainiac: It's frightening to think how close I am to being like that god guy. But not quite...
  4:13pm
William Main:

old guy - excuse the typo.
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Mr. Pumpy:

Chip Wickham is killing it.
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Irwin:

Noticing how the chord changes of "Route One" are similar to those in "Sling Shot."
  4:15pm
Laura L:

I see on Bandcamp this is a May 2020 release from Wickham--terrific.
  4:15pm
William Main:

A Freudian slip?
  4:17pm
Dave Miss:

Here ya go Irwin:

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=lxgMvq3RqHQ&feature=share
  4:19pm
Emile:

Hey Irwin, and Irwin's gang.
  4:19pm
John in Bklyn:

He's modally inclined.
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brainiac:

42, everybody. 42.
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Handy Haversack:

No racial barriers outside of Boston ...
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Snoochienucci:

Good afternoon wfmu land
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chris:

hero.
  4:23pm
spodiodi:

don't panic
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Handy Haversack:

Hey, Snoochie!
  4:24pm
Keith in Vermont:

About time 'FMU had a sports show.
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Snoochienucci:

youre still here handy??? what are you self isolating during a global pandemic or something? haha
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Mr. Pumpy:

Digging this story, Irwin. Thank you.
  4:28pm
berbo:

Do we get weather on the 5s now?
  4:30pm
sufferwords:

i think i miss baseball the most of any of this
  4:30pm
spodiodi:

Keith in Vermont, there are some in the archives https://wfmu.org/playlists/BC
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Phillippe Bastille:

Breaking news from George Wallace: "There was just a three car pileup in Atlanta. Ain't but three cars on the damn road. How did those assholes manage to find each other?"
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Handy Haversack:

Yah, what Pumpy said. Very nice, Irwin.
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βrian:

When I went out on a quick food run yesterday, I was surprised at how much traffic there was.
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brainiac:

For those missing baseball, find Adam Gopnik reading "The Rookie" on This American Life "American Limbo" episode & thank me later.
  4:34pm
spodiodi:

happy bday, Jim Creighton
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Snoochienucci:

wow that was awesome
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Handy Haversack:

Happy birthday, Jim Creighton!
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chris:

that was fantastic. thanks, Irwin!
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βrian:

"He's just a baby!"
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Little Danny:

Hey Irwin, hey all
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mb:

Irwin
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The Oscar:

Been busy working, but that was a hell of a segment-- and this is from a bonafide baseball agnostic!
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Handy Haversack:

In honor of Jim Creighton, I am officially declaring this work day done! Please throw my brain over the plate, Jim!
  4:35pm
sufferwords:

so rockin Irwin- happy bday Creighton - ARIES Number One!! Also happy 42 day- JR from my hood
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Irwin:

I'm a protoball geek. Alison Porchnik will attest.
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Snoochienucci:

en.wikipedia.org...

pretty awesome image of the birthday boy
  4:36pm
John in Bklyn:

You hit that one a long ways away, Irwin!
  4:36pm
Laura L:

As you know, Irwin, I know almost nothing about baseball but that was a great story.
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Chud:

Irwin, do you have a location on his grave? Greenwood is one of my regular stops when I visit
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Chud:

whoops, forgot to just search for it:
www.green-wood.com...
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Irwin:

Chud: Alison and I had to visit Green-Wood twice to find it. It's listed as being in Lot 2, but it's in Lot 4. She might recall the names of the paths.
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Chud:

Looks like a sweet one!
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Chud:

Damn I miss walking through that place
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Irwin:

There's a concrete baseball on Creighton's monument's finial. It was stolen over 100 years ago and replaced in a ceremony in 2014.
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Mr. Pumpy:

@Laura, same here. Don't know me much baseball at all. Yes, a great story...I may have to share it with my old man later.
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Doug Schulkind:

That was awful lovely that was.
  4:41pm
Listener Robert:

Protoball? Irwin, are you friendly with Richard Hershberger?
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Alison Porchnik:

Yep we know Richard!
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Alison Porchnik:

Sorry, I know my name's not Irwin.
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Irwin:

Robert: Absolutely. Richard's a regular presenter at the 19th C BB conference in Cooperstown. Great guy, fantastic storyteller.
  4:43pm
Listener Robert:

I know Richard Hershberger thru Usenet group alt.fan.cecil-adams .
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Irwin:

Also have gotten to know John Thorn, Bob Tholkes, Tom Gilbert, and dozens of other (more knowledgeable than me) protoball authorities.
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Handy Haversack:

I have seen an 1865-style baseball game. One guy who is sometimes on my softball team plays in one of the local re-creation leagues.

Bob Thorn is certainly a good one to get to know!
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Irwin:

Thorn is one of the most astonishing people I've ever met. He carries encyclopedias of information in his head and it rolls off his tongue in erudite, perfectly constructed sentences, often tinged with a dollop of wit. A very learned man.
  4:46pm
Listener Robert:

Handy, Irwin, have either of you ever experienced re-creations of the Boston/Massachusetts version of baseball? Who'd have TIME or PATIENCE today for such re-creations?
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Irwin:

The Massachusetts game had five bases. They lost out to the New York game.
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Irwin:

And no, baseball was not first played in Hoboken. Much as I love my little hometown.
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Alison Porchnik:

@Chud Creighton's monument is in Lot 4, near the top of Vision Path, off of Spruce Avenue, near where Vision intersects with Tulip path.
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Handy Haversack:

Is the Mass. version more rounders and the NY one more town-ball?

I worked on the editorial and production end of a book several years back that made a case for more acknowledgment of the role of Alexander Joy Cartwright to the formalization of the game. Certainly he was crucial in spreading it west -- and to Hawaii.
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Irwin:

Handy: For authoritative answers, read David Block's BASEBALL BEFORE WE KNEW IT. David also presents at the 19th C conference. Great writer and a meticulous researcher.
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Handy Haversack:

I'll pick that up, Irwin! Thanks!
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Irwin:

Handy: Many of Cartwright's alleged contributions were fabricated by his grandson, who forged entries in his dead grandfather's journals.
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Irwin:

John Thorn: "Recent scholarship has revealed the history of baseball’s origin to be merely a lie agreed upon. According to the Hall of Fame plaque for Alexander Joy Cartwright, Jr., he is the 'Father of Modern Base Ball. Set bases 90 feet apart. Established 9 innings as a game and 9 players as a team. Organized the Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of N.Y. in 1845. Carried baseball to Pacific Coast and Hawaii in pioneer days.' I can tell you that each and every one of these statements is either demonstrably false or lacks evidence of truth."
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spodiodi:

that's great
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Handy Haversack:

I remember our wanting him to endorse the book and that being a nonstarter, I think. This was a set of years back!

That's one diabolical grandson, though!
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Lizardner Dave 2:

There's a sign in the plaque room at Cooperstown that says something to the effect of "All information was thought to be correct at the time it was written"
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Irwin:

Don't get Thorn started on Cartwright. And I mean DON'T. It's a waste of his time.
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Irwin:

Lizardner: Yep, that's CYA, because they will never remove anyone's placque.
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Handy Haversack:

Ha -- it's a deal, Irwin.
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Little Danny:

Wow, this is lovely, this Drab City
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stalvey:

Caught the baseball mic break from near the end of the Ruth part, and had what NPR folk call a driveway moment. Had to hear the rest before starting the car. That was great. Thanks, Mr. DJ!
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Dave Miss:

Now I know where Alex McMurray in New Orleans, from Royal fingerbowl and 007 got his delivery… From John Prine


https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hurODt-VY&feature=share
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Little Danny:

Yes but who at FMU re-popularized "jerk off" before it was cool?
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Irwin:

IBJ.
  5:04pm
spodiodi:

x-ray burns, i thought (incorrectly i guess)
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Carmichael:

In my neck of the woods, we use the term "jagoff".
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Irwin:

Spodi: That is an acceptable answer.
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Itzall Gön'gett-Bettresuhnn:

Sure is a little bit of "Ghost & Mr. Chicken" on the Nitemate.
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Little Danny:

Western PA, Carmichael?
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Carmichael:

Ha ha, no Danny, actually Sacramento. Is that a PA term?
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brainiac:

This is cool
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Little Danny:

Oh yes proudly PA
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Listener Robert:

As far as I remember, it was Bill Kelly who developed "all you jerk-offs in Rockland County" as a catch phrase once you started IDing the translator there.
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Spinning Giant:

Monsieur le Rogers..?
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Little Danny:

Reminded me a bit of moments from Walt Dickerson's 'Patch of Blue' and 'Impressions of Lawrence of Arabia' LPs
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Spinning Giant:

@brainiac Thanks for the reco re baseball substitute material! Cheers
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Phillippe Bastille:

Love me some Thermals
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Switchblade Batman:

Wow, I haven't heard the thermals in so long, I used to love them.
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Spinning Giant:

Come on everybody!! LoL perfect Irwin
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brainiac:

@Spinning Giant: Hope you are in the mood for a good cry ;)
  5:18pm
andrewb:

respect the middle 8 proud girl
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Spinning Giant:

Always @brainiac always...in touch with my inner emotionally underdeveloped and overwhelmed toddler
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Listener Robert:

Last question I asked Richard Hershberger was, "In about 1850, give or take a decade, what percentage of Americans (all sexes and races) do you think would have played baseball at least once by their 11th birthday? How about football (counting anything they might have called football or could be oonsidered some type of football by us, even if the ball was a stuffed burlap rag)? How about cricket?"
  5:19pm
BH:

hey, it's pre-ASMR ASMR reading of "WFMU"
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Irwin:

Do you recall RH's reply?
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Spinning Giant:

Dickie Petes!!! Glorygeous! Cheers Monsieur Le Chusid :D
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Mark Hurst:

Great show today, Irwin. Enjoyed the baseball history.
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Irwin:

The Proud Girl tape is from the mid-1980s. A friend was really sick, kept a cassette deck by her bedside, recorded sporadically while blitzed out on meds.
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Crudbringer:

You can't fool me, this is Stone Temple Pilots.
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Cp304:

this song is up there with that unknown dude
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Irwin:

I think the singer is from the Young Fresh Fellows.
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Irwin:

They were friends with Peterson.
  5:22pm
Listener Robert:

Here's the link to the thread in Deja Google: groups.google.com...

I didn't ask him specifically, but when you throw up a can of corn like that in alt.fan.cecil-adams, you expect him to answer.
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Spinning Giant:

...is it one of Crazy Mike Patton's alteregos...?
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Irwin:

Thank you, Marcus Technicus.
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Irwin:

Crud: STP included this on their 2nd album. It was written and recorded by Peterson.
  5:24pm
ZeeBee:

Listening here with new cat friend Merle. He likes this one. Hello to all!
  5:24pm
Listener Robert:

Direct to Richard's most definitive answer: groups.google.com...
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Irwin:

Peterson had an obsession with Johnny Mathis. There's a film about him, "Big City Dick."
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Spinning Giant:

Hello Merle & ZeeBee!
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Spinning Giant:

Big City Dick - that's a killer band name
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Crudbringer:

IT MEANS "DETECTIVE", YOU PERVERT
  5:27pm
Listener Robert:

I'm more interested in proto-football, and wanted to get some idea of the relative commonness of ANY KIND of football and any kind of baseball in the mid-19th Century as participant sports. I'm also interested in the degree to which each sport was a children's game carried on by adults or an adult game imitated by children.
  5:27pm
Terracota:

Hi Irwin.
I have a question...
Today the song Ceniza played on the radio?
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Irwin:

Terra: Excuse me?
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coelacanth∅:

hi Irwin. i have a question.
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Irwin:

I have answers.
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coelacanth∅:

we'd make a good pair, us two.
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Hopey Sockmonkey:

I have fond mid-western memories of Sears.
  5:31pm
Terracota:

Hi Irwin... A friend from the Band Saneinsane Gold me that Ceniza, a Song, played on the radio today... IM SORDY... My english is Not Good!
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Listener Robert:

By the way, Richard seems to have swallowed the scuttlebutt that early football both in the British Isles and North America was "hard to distinguish from a riot". Of course the ones that caused the most disturbance got the most attention from contemporaries and therefore historians, but this is a very biased selection.
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Crudbringer:

MAN ME A SAND
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Irwin:

Terra: It must have been on an earlier show. Check the online playlists for Duane, Ken, and Wake & Bake.
  5:33pm
Terracota:

Ok! Thank youuu!
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coelacanth∅:

terra this might help wfmu.org...
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brainiac:

Hell yeah, here's to your mental health
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Listener Robert!
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brainiac:

here's to firebombing the next car alarm
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Little Danny:

Yes! This version of "Paper Moon" is sooo good.
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Little Danny:

I love the quasi-Eastern tinge on the intro and outro
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Irwin:

Lee Morgan on trumpet.
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Irwin:

Piano: Bobby Timmons.
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yerfriendpaul:

This sounds so good!!!
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Alison Porchnik:

This is the wildest version of Paper Moon I've ever heard. I love it! Did Blakey do the arrangement?
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spodiodi:

this is the kind of music that make space aliens really stand up and take notice
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spodiodi:

maybe there's hope after all
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Irwin:

AP: Good question. I doubt it. Possibly Wayne Shorter or Timmons.
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Alison Porchnik:

It's blowing my mind.
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Little Danny:

The liner notes of Big Beat imply it was Lee Morgan's idea
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Beetlemuse:

I love organs and guitars together!
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Irwin:

LD: I'll accept that, esp. since Shorter didn't play on the track (tho he is on the album).
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Irwin:

Don't think Blakey was an arranger, but he hired some great ones. You could say he "arranged" the band.
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William Main:

Devotion - My favorite John McLaughlin record (even though I know he disowned it). Larry Young sounds great, too.
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12539:

Thanks, Irwin! Take care out there.
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Irwin:

WM: In between Miles and Mahavishnu.
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coelacanth∅:

Blakey made the arrangements for the arrangements to be made
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Little Danny:

According to Hentoff in the BB's liners, Lee Morgan was "[then] musical director of the Messengers (in charge of the library)." No other mention of arrangers, except that it seems to have started as an impromptu jam (led by Morgan) during a Messengers residency in Paris.
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William Main:

@Irwin: Yes. I love the first incarnation of Tony Williams Lifetime with McLaughlin and Young.
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks for a great show, Irwin and Irwin's Skeleton BOARD OPS! Really enjoyed the Creighton story and protoball talk, Irwin. I will get that book.

Much, much appreciation for making this happen.
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Irwin:

LD: I'd think if you have Wayne Shorter in the band, you gotta use him as an arranger sometime.
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Little Danny:

I would say so too!

Thanks Irwin, great show as always.
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Irwin
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Lizardner Dave 2:

Fun show today, thanks Irwin. Loved the baseball content.
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Irwin:

Leaving you with a comment from one of my favorite writers, who told his lock-downed daughter: “Stay safe. This will be over and life will go on, but what you do for the next few weeks is for all the marbles. Stay on it 100%.”
  5:55pm
spodiodi:

thanks, Irwin!
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radioronan:

Thanks for the show, Irwin.
  5:55pm
Laura L:

Another superb show, Irwin--thank you!
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Phillippe Bastille:

Thank you Irwin
  5:57pm
Dave Miss:

Cheers Irwin
  5:57pm
berbo:

someone saved my life tonight!
  5:57pm
spodiodi:

thanks, skellies!
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brainiac:

_muy bueno_ Irwin
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chris:

thanks, Irwin! thanks, Skels!
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zippy:

this show saved the popes life
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Hopey Sockmonkey:

Thank you for being there, Irwin!
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stalvey:

Some guys do pretty well in that soul-saving racket.
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Carmichael:

Sugar bear ... Sugar bear ... Sugar bear ...
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