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Options December 18, 2019: Dynamic playlists 202020 debut! Emptying Our Boxes (What's he doing in there?) (Show #647, from May)


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Contains musically magical rearranged fragments of:

LOOPS: Camper Van Beethoven, John Lennon, Kate Bush, Lemon Jelly, Jeff Lynne, Linda Draper, Bob Seger, Mark Mothersbaugh, the Mountain Goats, Nada Surf, Niki & The Dove, Nine Inch Nails, OutKast, Pink Floyd, R.E.M., Royskopp, The War On Drugs

MUSIC: Alice in Wonderland, Clem Leek, dj BC, Roots, Radiohead, Simon & Garfunkel, Jim of Seattle, John Carpenter, Jon Brion, Mark Mothersbaugh, Ole Jensen, Bach, Tom Waits

WORDS: Albert Brooks, Kathryn Beaumont, Andre Gregory, Charlie Kaufman, Christian Bale, David Lynch, Joseph Fiennes, Ray Winstone, Alan Rudolph, Garry Shandling, Sharon Stone, Harlan Ellison, Alan Watts, Pat Morita, Matt Frewer, Brent Spiner, Donald Sutherland, Julie Andrews, Richard Dreyfuss, Sesame Street, Stanley Kubrick, Leonard Nimoy, Skip Homeier, Boyd Gaines, John Lawrence, Sarah Jessica Parker, David Warner, Jerold Wells, Tom Cruise, Tony Robbins, Walter Murch, Wayne Dyer, Negativland/Wobbly, phone, Ken


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Artist Track Album Year Comments Images New / Special Approx. start time
Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza  Emptying Our Boxes   Options   2019   
What's he building in there?
Options
What's he building in there?
  0:00:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Boxes   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:04:04 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  We'll open some of the boxes   Options   2019      * ***   0:04:38 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jon Brion  Jimmy's Breakdown   Options Magnolia  1999        0:08:05 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
OutKast  B.O.B. loops   Options           0:08:29 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jon Brion  Jimmy's Breakdown   Options Magnolia          0:10:04 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ole Jensen and his Music  Exotica   Options Chappell Recorded Music (LPC 1047)  1972        0:10:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ole Jensen and his Music  Bach-Style   Options Chappell Recorded Music (LPC 1047)  1972        0:11:56 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jeff Lynne  Every Little Thing (remix) loop   Options           0:12:24 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
War on Drugs  Pile of Tires loop   Options           0:14:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wobbly, Negativland  Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission   Options   2019        0:16:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Years went by, what was he doing in there? The boxes have the answer   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:17:47 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wobbly, Negativland  Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission   Options   2019        0:18:09 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Clem Leek  Burleson, TX   Options           0:18:23 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Clem Leek  The Lights of New York   Options           0:18:36 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Carpenter  Out of Time (unused)   Options Escape from LA          0:18:57 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sarah Jessica Parker  How long have you lived here? You should unpack. You can't unpack, bc that would mean you really live here.   Options 'Til There Was You          0:19:32 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio  Miyagi-isms   Options Karate Kid  1984        0:21:17 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  My world would be a wonderland   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951        0:23:02 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Polly Draper  I want to terminate   Options thirtySomething          0:24:02 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Mel Harris  Don't have to do things exactly right. If you make a teeny mistake, who cares?   Options thirtySomething          0:25:10 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
thirtySomething  You can be right, or you can be happy   Options thirtySomething          0:25:53 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Paul Simon  The Sound of Silence (without Garfunkel)   Options           0:26:22 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Art Garfunkel  The Sound of Silence (without Simon)   Options           0:27:35 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Simon and Garfunkel  The Sound of Silence (bass only)   Options           0:31:18 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sarah Jessica Parker  I'd buy you a piano, you'd hate it, 'cause you'd prefer to dream of some future piano   Options 'Til There Was You          0:32:07 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Camper Van Beethoven  Sweethearts loops   Options Key Lime Pie          0:32:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Lennon  Mother loops   Options           0:40:32 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Camper Van Beethoven  Sweethearts loops   Options Key Lime Pie          0:42:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Lennon  Mother   Options           0:44:12 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jonsi and Alex  Happiness loops   Options           0:45:18 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kate Bush  Hounds of Love loops   Options           0:45:40 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sesame Street  Two men with ideas   Options     (Brief)      0:46:29 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           0:47:03 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  Assignment: Deliver a monologue. Keep speaking until you're done. Interrupt the next monologue you hear.   Options   2019      * ***   0:49:42 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Phone caller (Ken)  Practice: You're never going to call again   Options   2019   
Options
* ***   0:53:14 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  More vulnerable, less vulnerable, identification   Options   2019      * ***   0:54:18 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           0:56:10 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio  Miyagi wisdom   Options Karate Kid  1984        0:56:25 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita  Walk right side, safe, walk left side, safe, walk middle, sooner or later, get squished, just like grape   Options Karate Kid  1984        0:57:07 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           0:57:55 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Staying in a lot more, so the outside world no longer knew what he looked like   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:58:40 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  What was he doing in there   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:58:51 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  House is amazingly full of boxes. Some of these boxes haven't been opened for decades   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:59:05 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tom Waits  What's He Building?   Options Mule Variations  1999        0:59:35 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Not too tight, not too loose (it's a lovely box)   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          1:00:08 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  My world would be a wonderland   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951        1:00:58 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  In my world, everything would be what it isn't   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951        1:01:18 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Christian Bale  A sheen of conssumate professionalism   Options American Psycho          1:01:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  In my world, you wouldn't say meow, you'd say, yes, Miss Alice   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951   
Options
  1:02:26 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One loops   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:03:25 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
OutKast  B.O.B. loops   Options           1:04:12 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:05:19 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tom Waits  What's He Building?   Options Mule Variations  1999  I'll tell you one thing: He's not building a playhouse for the children      1:05:58 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:06:31 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio  First learn stand, then learn fly   Options Karate Kid  1984        1:07:39 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita  Balance good, everything good   Options Karate Kid  1984        1:08:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:08:45 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
dj BC (Roots, Radiohead)  Nothing In Its Right Place   Options      
Everything in its right place
Options
Everything in its right place
  1:09:40 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wobbly, Negativland  Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission   Options   2019        1:10:54 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jim of Seattle  Welcome to Windows   Options     Jim Owen, Windows 95      1:11:56 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bill Withers  Oh Yeah   Options           1:13:32 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Brendan Maclean  Stupid   Options Population EP  2014        1:14:16 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jim of Seattle  Welcome to Windows   Options     Jim Owen, Windows 95      1:14:36 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
HAL 9000  I'm constantly occupied. I'm putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think any conscious entity can ever hope to do   Options 2001: A Space Odyssey     
Options
  1:16:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Brendan Maclean  Stupid   Options Population EP  2014        1:17:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Leonard Nimoy  There are many who are uncomfortable with what we have created, it is almost a biological rebellion. The programming, the sterilzed, artfully balanced atmospheres. They hunger for an Eden   Options Star Trek TOS-The Way to Eden (Season 3 episode 20)          1:18:09 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Mark Mothersbaugh  Snowflake Music loops   Options Bottle Rocket          1:19:55 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Skip Homeier  this is poison,layers of shields,computers that run your lives,you've infected me   Options Star Trek TOS-The Way to Eden (Season 3 episode 20)          1:20:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bill Ehrhart  Found ways of keeping your thoughts well within the environment you were in   Options Vietnam interviews          1:21:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tony Robbins  Breathing exercise   Options           1:21:35 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Donald Sutherland  What you've done is all right   Options Little Murders          1:21:45 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Brent Spiner, Matt Frewer  How the hell can you listen to four pieces of music at the same time?   Options Star Trek TNG     
Options
  1:21:52 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Mark Mothersbaugh  Royal Tenenbaums opening theme   Options Royal Tenenbaums          1:22:05 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Boyd Gaines  You know how we feel about parties   Options The Sure Thing          1:23:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Albert Brooks  While being a very nice guy   Options Broadcast News          1:24:02 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  Be open about your life. You will find the people who respond to what it is to what you are doing, and you will let them love you by doing so   Options   2015      * ***   1:24:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nada Surf  Blizzard of 77 loop   Options           1:24:59 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Niki & the Dove  So Much It Hurts loops   Options           1:25:35 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nine Inch Nails  Hurt (instrumental) loops   Options           1:26:29 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pink Floyd  One of These Days loops   Options Meddle          1:27:22 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  It has been said that I usually end on an optimistic note. Do you feel empowered to make changes? Someone is going to change you.   Options   2019      * ***   1:28:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nine Inch Nails  Hurt (instrumental) loops   Options           1:32:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
R.E.M.  Daysleeper loop   Options           1:33:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jeff Lynne  Every Little Thing (remix) loop   Options           1:33:56 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Royksopp  Royksopp Forever loops   Options           1:34:23 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sharon Stone with Garry Shandling  If you're not in your vulnerability, nothing is interesting   Options Garry Shandling meets Sharon Stone     
rip garry larry
Options
rip garry larry
  1:35:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Charlie Kaufman  I wanted to do something that I don't know how to do, and offer you the experience of watching someone fumble   Options           1:36:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Andre Gregory  There's got to be another way   Options Some Girls          1:36:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Albert Brooks  i feel like i'm slipping,but do people who are slipping feel that way,or only bc my standards are so high   Options Broadcast News          1:36:46 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Lawrence, John Carpenter  They are dismantling the sleeping middle class. We are being bred for slavery   Options They Live          1:37:01 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Julie Andrews  In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun   Options Mary Poppins          1:37:53 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wayne Dyer  You don't blame your parents. You didn't know how to deal effectively with them   Options           1:38:21 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
David Lynch  I started selling out even before we started shooting. It was making me physically sick   Options   2014  Totally absurd to be working on something that you can't say how it should be.      1:39:45 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Richard Dreyfuss  Audiences know what to expect, and that is all that they are prepared to believe in   Options           1:40:31 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tom Cruise  I will not apologize for who I am, I will not apologize for what I need, I will not apologize for what I want   Options Magnolia          1:40:51 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Walter Murch  Li: You get things you would be unlikely to get except by chance   Options           1:41:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
David Lynch  Business is run on money   Options           1:41:55 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ralph Richardson, Peter Vaughan  I will be free, and the world will be different. i will have knowledge of computers,supreme being created slugs,lunatic,i would've started with lasers   Options Time Bandits     
Are we not in the hands of a lunatic?
Options
Are we not in the hands of a lunatic?
  1:42:09 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Harlan Ellison  TV on in restaurants, and nobody watching. People are stupid. They feel imposed upon if you remove that giant tit from their mouth (radio is wonderful)   Options     You've got to have a good thumb, and that's about it.      1:43:05 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Garry Shandling  Stand-up allowed me to find out who I authentically am   Options           1:44:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Alan Watts  It's incredibly important to unthink at least once a day   Options           1:45:25 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ray Winstone, Joseph Fiennes  You have a decision to make. Every day we make hundreds of thousands of decisions. Decisions are easy   Options The Very Thought of You (aka "Martha - Meet Frank, Daniel and Laurence")    Time's up!      1:45:35 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nada Surf  Blizzard of 77 loop   Options           1:47:22 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Royksopp  Royksopp Forever loops   Options           1:47:44 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           1:48:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  A blank piece of paper in front of you, waiting for your monologue to emerge. You wondered when you'd know. How would you know when it was finished?   Options   2019  Variation of Last Ever Feedback Page    * ***   1:49:08 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
  The end             1:57:32 (MP3 | Pop‑up)

Note: This playlist is still being updated.

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Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @2:59 Ken From Hyde Park:

Testing?
Avatar Swag For Life Member @3:00 mb:

1-2, 1-2?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:00 Phillippe Bastille:

The link worked! That's a good start, right?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:00 Rich in Washington:

Hello. Did I pass the test?
Avatar @3:00 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi Ken. Comments will look the sameish. The bigger changes will be on the songs side. But comments will be different on a phone mobile browser!
Avatar @3:01 Mary Wing:

Dynamic!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:01 Rich in Washington:

I feel weird. Kind of dizzy. Is that normal?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:01 chris:

very nice.
Avatar @3:02 Mr Fab:

Hi Kenzo, how is this "dynamic" Any special bells and whistles in store? Free balloons for the kids?
Avatar @3:03 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Everything about the songs listing is super live. No more flashing page reloads once a minute.
Avatar @3:04 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I can even throw you all out to the bottom and then immediately welcome you back in...here comes that...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:04 Phillippe Bastille:

@Kenzo the no flashing will make me VERY happy.
Avatar @3:05 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The page should look a lot better on a phone browser. (No effect on the apps...) wfmu.org...
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:06 Rich in Washington:

Ooo! Fancy!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:06 Rich in Washington:

There's no delay once you hit 'update'?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:06 Phillippe Bastille:

The one thing that's a little weird for me is that when the comments autoscroll, the bottom line is half cutoff horizontally (PC, Firefox)
Avatar @3:07 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Philllllllppe Yeah, I'm seeing that too right now. And the auto-scroll/arrow thing isn't always kicking in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member @3:07 mb:

I kind of like the flashing page. It has snapped me out of many cannabis induced hazes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:08 Phillippe Bastille:

The autoscroll rarely worked for me
Avatar @3:08 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Well instead of flashing you're going to get sea sick from all the fading in and out of song changes.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:08 Rich in Washington:

It seems to have eliminated the persistent 'down' arrow at the bottom of the comments that I encounter w/Mac - Chrome. It actually prevents one from highlighting text - like if you wanna copy someone's name to reply.
I don't see thathere, which is nice.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:09 Phillippe Bastille:

Dramamine, cannabis, all kind of the same
Avatar Swag For Life Member @3:09 mb:

Autoscroll rarely worked and sometimes the arrow stayed lit indicating there was a new post BUT there was not a new post.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:09 Rich in Washington:

I could see me getting used to the fading in playlist entries.
Avatar @3:09 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah, the comments arrow/scroll thing didn't work right on some browsers and I think that's still the case. Maybe the persistent arrow will happen less, but I want to get that whole thing working better.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:09 Rich in Washington:

Yeah, mb. That's exactly what I meant. It was sort of a pain.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:11 Phillippe Bastille:

I think the down arrow was some kind of sophisticated AI/machine learner that knew someone was thinking about posting
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:13 Rich in Washington:

Now I'm listening to two shows AND the House of Representatives hearing at the same time.
Avatar @3:14 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

If anyone wants to try it on a mobile browser I'd love to hear about it...
Avatar @3:15 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

One comments change is that if you keep commenting after the show ends and things are at the bottom, the comments will keep updating for a while; so, that last bit of convo won't be lost.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:16 Ken From Hyde Park:

˙ʇsǝʇ ɹǝɥʇouɐ sᴉ ǝɹǝH
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:17 Rich in Washington:

I'm on my Android phone now.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:19 Rich in Washington:

Hmmm. Honestly I don't know what the difference is, as I rarely visit playlists on my phone, but it seems a bit easier than I remember it. Definitely better than the app and unofficial app.
Avatar @3:20 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The text is more of a normal size rather than a crazy desktop page zoom, plus the comments and songs are kept separate (if your screen is narrow enough).
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:21 Rich in Washington:

Yeah. I'm definitely going to read and comment this way on my phone.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:22 Rich in Washington:

Yeah. Much better than I remember it. The app is really awful for commenting.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:22 Rich in Washington:

Sorry if you had anything to do with the app.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:23 Ken From Hyde Park:

On Windows Firefox browser, as comments come in, I have to move the scroll bar down to see them. The floating arrow thingie isn't appearing like in the previous version (when you click it, it would zoom you down to the bottom of the comments).
Avatar @3:23 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Not a thing (well, it interacts with my server backend of course) and yeah it's awful. There's a new one from a new dev right around the corner, though!
Avatar @3:24 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP If you reload the page once, does that keep being the case?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:26 chris:

in duck duck go ios, i can't submit comments because the submit button is cut off
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:26 chris:

same for safari
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:27 Rich in Washington:

The preview/submit button works for me on Android.
Avatar @3:28 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@chris Thanks for that feedback. Any chance you can send me a screenshot? To kenzo at wfmu.org
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:28 Ken From Hyde Park:

Reloaded and now the new comments appear at the bottom automatically.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:28 chresti:

testing testing..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:28 chris:

also can't resize page in either browser (ios), so there's a lot of scrolling
Avatar @3:28 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Yeah there seems to be a sometimes-bug on first page load but I haven't tracked it down.
Avatar Swag For Life Member @3:29 mb:

Test

Sent by iPhone from the webpage not the app
Avatar @3:29 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@chris What kind of resizing do you mean? If I remove the image (doing that in a sec), does it all fit?
  @3:30 BH:

on Chrome, the auto-scroll to the most recent comments might take some getting used to (as opposed to opening the page and the bar being at the bottom already)
Avatar Swag For Life Member @3:30 mb:

^Safari browser on iPhone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:32 chris:

no comments at all in safari on old crappy ipad running ios 10.3.4
Avatar @3:32 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@BH Do you mean, it's not auto scrolling? Or on first load it's not at the bottom?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:33 chris:

oh let me check, Kenzo
Avatar @3:33 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@chris Oh I'd love to know what you're seeing there on your ipad...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:34 chris:

yeah, much better when narrower artist/tracklist. i mean resizing window with finger gestures, just bounces back to whatever the page width is
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:34 Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello from Microsoft Edge browser. Nothing unusual to report.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:34 Phillippe Bastille:

When I scroll up to read the comments I missed when I was on a call, the floating arrow appears, so that's good, right?
Avatar @3:35 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Does anyone still see "Changing stuff at the top..." at the top of the page?
Avatar @3:35 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Phill Yes, that's good!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:35 chris:

Kenzo, on ipad, empty comments column - no comments, no post comment box
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:35 Phillippe Bastille:

Nope
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:36 ParUbi:

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:36 chris:

actually on iphone, looks like the width is defined by size of artist/tracklist table
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:36 Phillippe Bastille:

Test song pop-ups are working
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:37 chris:

yes on iphone and ipad to the changing stuff at top... line. not on chrome, tho
  @3:37 BH:

Kenzo, I mean, it appears to be working. Open site, the comments bar starts at the top and scrolls to the most recent comments. As opposed to opening and already being at the most recent.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:38 Ken From Hyde Park:

I take that back about M.E. browser. It's not repainting the comments. The comment at 3:33 is at the bottom and it's overlaying new comments as they arrive. Will try sending a picture.
Avatar @3:38 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Who sees "Do you only see this" and also sees "Changing stuff at the top..." below it?
Avatar @3:38 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Eeek, it's writing new comments on top of old comments?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:39 chris:

after page reload, the changing stuff at top line went away everywhere
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:39 Ken From Hyde Park:

Raises hand ... I see that.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:40 ParUbi:

I see Max from Pi
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:40 Phillippe Bastille:

I only see the this but not the also. Viewing on Firefox and Opera (talent!)
Avatar @3:40 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah, it'll def go away after page reload, but it shouldn't have been there...
Avatar 🎃 @3:40 Martinibomb:

Tes test.. is this thing on?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:41 chris:

love, love, love the way the table rebuilds itself!
Avatar @3:42 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah I've gotta make this a bit resizeable in mobile view.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:44 Phillippe Bastille:

Not that any sane person would be viewing the playlist on two different browsers at the same time, but the dynamic changes happen at different times on the two browsers, sometimes first on Firefox, sometimes first on Opera
Avatar @3:44 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Now a whole redraw of the comments section will happen...
Avatar @3:45 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@PB Heh, that's OK.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:45 Phillippe Bastille:

Redraw worked on Firefox, couldn't tell on Opera
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:45 ParUbi:

Everything is active.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:47 Phillippe Bastille:

Funny watching the two Shatners at the same time. On one side his head is whipping left, the other whipping right. Both are satisfying to watch each and of themselves, but together its pure heaven
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:48 -Ken:

Song list is updating very gracefully on W7, Chrome 79.0
  @3:49 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Test here
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:49 Ken From Hyde Park:

OK, sent over a picture from Windows 10 and the Edge browser. I don't usually use that, but fired it up to see how it worked.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:51 Phillippe Bastille:

Not sure if this is relevant or just interesting, but on Firefox kenzo's name is in white, Ken from HP and mine are in red, everyone else's is green. On Opera, everybody's green.
Avatar @3:55 still b/p:

Commenter names turn red in Chrome after you have clicked on them to look at listener profile. Didja look? Didjaaaaa..?
Avatar @3:55 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Visited profile link color is different from non-visited.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:56 Rich in Washington:

Dammit. I missed the twin shatner heads!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:57 Rich in Washington:

I never noticed the name color changing thing before. This is not new, is it?
Avatar @3:58 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Not new
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @3:59 Ken From Hyde Park:

In the previous version, I could make the comments column wider or narrower. It seems to be at a fixed width now. Similar for the "Post comment!" box. Can't make it taller or shorter. It's a fixed height.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:00 Rich in Washington:

Funny. I'd long noted that some people's names were differently colored but never knew why. Pathologically, just thought to myself that's it's because everyone is better than me.
I possessed the ability to change my name color all along.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:02 Rich in Washington:

Is it significantly different under the hood for programmers, Kenzo?
Avatar @4:03 still b/p:

Everyone must now click on alternate names in the whole comment stack -- A, not B, then C, not D. Making red/green. Because Christmas.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:03 Phillippe Bastille:

Hmm, don't think I ever looked at Ken's profile. Pretty sure I looked at Rich's and it is green (Rich, are you the guy who started a show on Sheena, or was that someone else's profile I looked at?). Looked at still b/p on Opera and it is red but is still green on Firefox. I need to close one of these before I go crazy.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:04 Rich in Washington:

I did start a show on Sheena's! I'm still starting it every week!
Avatar @4:05 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Rich, what are you asking?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:05 Rich in Washington:

I see now that people's names/profile links just follow visited link behaviors.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:06 Phillippe Bastille:

Then I DID look at your profile. But your name is still green (sigh). Ken from HP, you don't have a show, do you?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:06 Rich in Washington:

Oh, just curious what the programmer side of the playlist will look like, if it's significantly different, etc.
I can take my answers off the air.
Avatar @4:06 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I mean about programmers
Avatar @4:07 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

You mean for DJ's, ah. No changes there.
Avatar @4:08 Mr Fab:

Doesn't seem much different on desktop PC/Google, but agreed on the Android phone - MUCH improved, thank you, good sir!
Avatar @4:08 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hmm I can make mobile zoom-inable but not zoom-outable.
Avatar @4:10 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

On mobile, I'm finding this new way where you might have to scroll left and right on the songs list if it's very detailed to be far better than the old way.
Avatar @4:12 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Thanks for screenshot about the W10 Edge Browser issue. Serious...happening consistently, comments are always getting overlaid?
Avatar @4:14 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP If you reload your page, wait for one comment to come, and then show me that screenshot, I could better understand what on earth is happening there.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:19 Ken From Hyde Park:

Out for a quick walk. Will make another screenshot when I get back.
Emoji test: ♥️ ☠️
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:21 Ken From Hyde Park:

Santa and football emojis and text that followed did not appear.
Avatar @4:24 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

That's probably not a new problem. Some newer unicode doesn't work here yet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:28 Ike:

Greetings, humans!
Avatar @4:28 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi Ike! Watch the songs list for a sec
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:37 Ike:

Oops, sorry, I may have missed something in the songs list because I was working.
Avatar @4:39 still b/p:

Quite unrelated to important visual and technical assessments, but a thin degree of fun: When I grab any edge of the browser window to adjust size, Shatner slows down and gets haltingly slappy while the adjustment is active, like his paw's taking a dramatic pause.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:42 Ike:

In Chrome it seems even harder than usual to adjust the frame size. It's always a pain in Chrome (I prefer Firefox, but there are work issues).
Avatar @4:43 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Which frame size...be specific?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:44 Ike:

When trying to grab the vertical line between the comments and the main playlist window and move it left or right.
Avatar @4:44 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Is it even possible anymore?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:49 Ike:

Not as far as I can tell, but I haven't been able to devote much time to it.
Avatar @4:49 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah, can't do it anymore, although I'd like to restore that ability. Thanks for mentioning!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:53 Ken From Hyde Park:

I minimized the Edge browser window before taking my break and it seems to be behaving normally now. Going to try closing the window and opening a new one.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:54 Ken From Hyde Park:

And that comment broke it again. I have a fresh screengrab to send.
Avatar @4:55 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Is this an otherwise normal computer and normal-working browser?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @4:56 Ken From Hyde Park:

Yes, up-to-date Windows 10 and as far as I know Edge is up to date. I normally use Firefox.
Avatar @4:57 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I look forward to seeing if others have Edge issues today too.
Avatar @4:58 still b/p:

Don't know if this matters or you already covered it:
When adjusting browser window size horizontally to be smaller, going from either left or right, everything at the top and the comments area adapts with line-breaks, etc. to stay "whole" and visible, but the actual playlist grid stays same size/layout and gets covered up by the comments stack as it slides across. Eventually, at the max horiz adjustment it'll let me do, the left section of the playlist is only visible to half the "Format" column.
On Irwin's now-active playlist, his 3 columns do reduce themselves horizontally to stay visible.
On David W now-active playlist, the horizontal adjustment will have comment area moving over to cover just his far-right DJ comment column.
Make sense?
Avatar @4:59 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@still, which browser and OS?
Avatar @5:02 still b/p:

Chrome Version 79.0.3945.79
on an old Mac,
OS X El Capitan 10.11.6
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:03 fred:

Hello Kenzo and all
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:06 chresti:

Looking with a chrome browser on a windows 10 laptop, I don't see much difference except the fade-in when a new track or image appears
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:06 ParUbi:

Re-joining, hello everyone.
Avatar @5:10 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The fact that each new song is fading in twice instead of once is not a sign of a problem...it only has to do with a very unusual thing I have to do with today's playlist.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:11 chresti:

I like the fade-in effect
Avatar @5:13 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Test in a mobile or tablet browser if you can! wfmu.org...
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:14 fred:

Looks good to me, now that I know the second fade-in is intentional. Should I be looking at anything special?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:15 Ken From Hyde Park:

Observation on Android / Chrome: with the phone vertical, you must choose either the song playlist grid or the comments. Turn the phone sideways and in landscape mode, you see both.
Avatar @5:16 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP: That's by design. Do you see the button to switch back and forth?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:17 Ken From Hyde Park:

Yes, it works well.
Avatar @5:19 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Someone try favoriting new songs if you haven't yet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:21 Ike:

Favoriting seems OK on an iPhone Ghostery browser.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:21 fred:

The timestamp in the rightmost column only appears on the second fade-in, but I guess that's intentional
Also, the font in the comment box looks bigger than usual
Avatar @5:21 Mr Fab:

I favorited a song. Got the yellow star.
Avatar @5:21 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I'll have to increase the frequency of favorites data updates, so you aren't disturbed by the disappearance of your star for 30 seconds before it comes back.
Avatar @5:22 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

When a song gets updated, star might go away and then come back on its own, which isn't a new issue, always confuses some people, but will happen more now with the frequent song updates...will adjust soon.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:24 Rich in Washington:

The stars are coming out. There's a voice saying 'the stars are coming out'.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:25 Ken From Hyde Park:

At some point, will there be "thumbs down" boxes for Felder tracks?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:27 fred:

Very minor detail: when a new comment comes up, the last line is not completely visible, I have to scroll down a little (this doesn't happen on Irwin's playlist (Firefox 71.0, Windows 10 1903/18362.535)
Avatar @5:29 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@fred Yeah for me too and others...

Is auto-scroll/arrow thing working for you? It's supposed to auto-scroll to next comment if you're already at the bottom, or fade the arrow into view if you're not at the bottom, and then arrow disappear after you scroll to bottom or after you click it, which also scrolls to bottom.
Avatar @5:29 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Oh yeah I forgot I can play with colors
Avatar @5:30 still b/p:

A pumpkin spice seizure!
Avatar @5:31 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Reload the page once, and then I can play with background colors subsequently.
Avatar @5:35 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Anyone have a good idea for a font? And I wonder if different font make comment space at bottom go away.
Avatar @5:35 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Nope it doesn't.
Avatar @5:36 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Can't believe my phone doesn't support comic sans
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:36 fred:

The auto-scroll arrow did appear and worked as described
Avatar @5:37 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Anyone else using Edge? Seems problematic from one report...
Anyone else have an iPad or other tablet to test on?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:37 Ken From Hyde Park:

What was that one? Comic Sans? It went to the separator line for that one. Otherwise, it seems to be the bottom-most pixel of the text.
Avatar @5:39 still b/p:

I x n a y
o n
i s t h a y
o n t f a y.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:39 chresti:

The font is different
  @5:40 Dave In St Albans UK:

I am using the "unofficial" Woof Moo WFMU app on Android. Everything on all streams working perfectly. Like a dream!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:40 chresti:

now it's better
Avatar @5:40 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The app is unaffected. I'm looking for people to test from mobile browsers.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:42 Ken From Hyde Park:

I notice that on the phone, I can make the page reload by swiping down. Couldn't do that on the old version. Had to navigate to the refresh icon.
Avatar @5:42 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I really want to automate the rapid changing of colors. It'll be such a hit
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:44 Rich in Washington:

oh, that's crazy. I keep thinking there's something wrong with my monitors
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:45 Ken From Hyde Park:

Dͨ͗̇ͥͩ̇ͥo͗͐ͣe̲̖̤̗ͨͣͭ̃s̖͇͒̃ t̠̼̣͓̘̱̃ͩ̑̓͛͒h͉̯̳̰͙̼͋͆ͤ̉̎̋i͒͒s̘̗̫̭̹̝̓͊͐ͫ̃̂ ̖͇̦̘͖̳̆̋̓̿̈̉me̥̬͓͈͉̗͑̈́ͥ͆̉̄s̝̯͍̤s̱̫̬͂͆̾ up͐̌̽͊ ͭ̄ͮ̋̀a̜̪̳̯̩̲͇ͫ͊ͯ̉̆̍ͩn̎̄ͧ̇̐y͒̈́̀ṭ̼̗̞̰̒̈̊ͤ͋h̺̮͓̯̜ͅi̥̫̞̭̲̝̓ͦ͛ͬ͗̀n̘̼͂̒ġ͗̎͋̓̒̌?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:46 Ike:

Auto-color change would be hilarious.
Avatar @5:48 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP: Actually, it DOES mess up some things! How interesting.
  @5:49 Dave in St Alban's UK:

Using Edge on Android. Comments section displaying nicely with the background colour changing. Fun! I can't shrink the playlist to fit my screen though.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:49 Ken From Hyde Park:

www.zalgogenerator.com
Avatar @5:49 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Dave Yeah, I can't find a way to allow mobile shrinking...
  @5:52 tester:

Not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this, but the comments & posting parts of the page are empty on Safari (version 12 on iPad, version 13 on Mac/Catalina)
Avatar @5:52 still b/p:

iPhone 8 v 13.1.2
When I go sideways, I get playlist and it makes some right-side space for comment column but there's nothing there in that column, just bg color without any text, lines, boxes, borders.
I can do the back and forth full-screen from list to comments if holding phone in vertical orientation.
Avatar 🎃 @5:52 Martinibomb:

awesome looking!
Avatar @5:52 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi, tester. Can you be more specific? A screenshot would be really nice, too. Send to kenzo at wfmu.org
Avatar @5:53 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

It sounds like tablet responsive view isn't working right, or maybe it's iOS specific...
  @5:54 tester:

OK (BTW it's ok on iOS for iPhone)
Avatar @5:54 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I wonder if an arrow-like effect is needed for the songs list as well, so you know there's something at the bottom to scroll to see. I keep forgetting to scroll.
  @5:55 Dave in St Alban's UK:

Really like the crazy background and text colour changes. Some combinations are easier on the eyes. :-)
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:55 Rich in Washington:

Oh man! My cones and rods! I am bleeding from the eyeholes.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:55 ParUbi:

This is a pretty unreadable combination :D
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:56 ParUbi:

well, it was
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:57 Rich in Washington:

uh oh! Someone left the playlist out in the sun or washed it in warm water or both.
Avatar @5:57 northguineahills:

The comments overlaying on each other reflect the lyrical content of the show.
Avatar @5:58 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I want to do a BPM-synched color changing effect.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @5:59 fred:

A playlist arrow might be useful for your show, but maybe not many others
Avatar @6:00 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah I was thinking that. But maybe....
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:00 Ken From Hyde Park:

Image observation: with the old version, if you click on an image to enlarge it, you could use the up- or down-arrow key to go to the next one and enlarge it. With this version, they keys scroll the page up/down and the enlarged image moves with along with the page.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:00 ParUbi:

Karate means "empty hand" right? So where isn't karate? When you're holding something. Bam!
Avatar @6:01 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Lemme add more images and see
Avatar @6:01 still b/p:

T-Mobile will sue you if you use magenta. They've sued others.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:02 Ken From Hyde Park:

I should amend that. The up/down arrow makes the image go back to its embedded state.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:02 fred:

Well, if you have the code for the arrow and it doesn't mess up the rest, why not?
Avatar @6:02 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I think a song arrow is needed for anyone. It's awkward scrolling to top and bottom over and over, you don't know where to sit on the page.
Avatar @6:04 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP: The arrow issue goes away if you reload the page after there are multiple images. So the issue is that when I dynamically add an image to the page, it doesn't get added to the list of arrow-reachable images. Will add to my list...
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:05 Rich in Washington:

I had to look that up, still b/p. That's nuts.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:05 Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

oooh, fancy!
Avatar @6:05 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@fred It's awkward because there's other junk below the playlist.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:05 Ken From Hyde Park:

<Spock voice> Fascinating.
Avatar @6:06 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Color show for Tuna...
Avatar Swag For Life Member @6:07 Rand al'Thor:

Ooh, new playlist stuff!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:07 Ken From Hyde Park:

OK, yeah. I reload the page and now I can embiggen Kirk or the disco colors using the arrows.
Avatar @6:07 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Welcome to a new world ish
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:07 Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

WOW!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:08 Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

ouch!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:08 Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

that fade is so fancy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:09 Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

is it white on white??!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:09 Phillippe Bastille:

Came back for the music, staying for the test.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:09 Phillippe Bastille:

Also the other way around
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:09 Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

or i guess it's called a dissolve?
Avatar @6:09 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

All the worst colors, all at once. The inside joke is that all color changing abilities will be going away site-wide before long.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:10 Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

whatever it is, fun!
Avatar @6:10 still b/p:

Filling it softly with his tracks,
Filling it softly....with his tracks...
Avatar @6:13 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Now I have two separate cursor key worlds, one for new image and one for prior imageS.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:15 Phillippe Bastille:

Ok, was scrolling the playlist and when I hovered over the comments they would not scroll. When I clicked in the comments window it would then scroll. The playlist scrolled whether I clicked in it or not
Avatar @6:15 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@PB Hovered? Hard to follow what you're saying.
Avatar @6:16 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

FYI streamers: Bodega Pop live will be starting about 30 minutes late today. Gary stuck in a tunnel...
Avatar @6:20 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

That Star Trek writer woman who died recently disavowed herself of having written the first version of this episode.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:20 Phillippe Bastille:

Yeah, when I put my cursor over the playlist and used the scroll wheel the playlist window scrolled. When I put my cursor over the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window did not scroll. After I clicked within the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window scrolled. When I moved the cursor back over the playlist window and used the scroll mouse the playlist window scrolled without having to click inside it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:22 Phillippe Bastille:

Seems to be a non-replicatable issue
Avatar @6:23 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@PB I get it. Hard one to address.
Avatar @6:23 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

How the hell can you listen to four pieces of music at the same time?
Avatar @6:25 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I'm working on crazy software that does some fun and some useful things and takes 19 years.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:25 Phillippe Bastille:

I'm sure. I'm still trying to figure out how urls work
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:26 Phillippe Bastille:

This is fun! Can we do it every week?
Avatar @6:26 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I picked a pretty big playlist to test this on.
Avatar Swag For Life Member @6:28 Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Always a unique experience even more than one time.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:30 fred:

"test insert" showed up in the middle, then to the left, then gone, now four times to the left
Avatar Swag For Life Member @6:30 Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

19 years ~ eclipse cycles - called 'Saros'.
Avatar @6:30 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thanks Fred! All as intended.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:31 fred:

Now the extra line is gone
Avatar @6:32 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Need a feature to greyscale the avatar images
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:35 chresti:

Ah..grey is easier on the eyeballs
Avatar @6:36 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Charlie Kaufman has written a book
Avatar @6:37 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Totally need songs auto scroll
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:39 Phillippe Bastille:

@kenzo agreed
Avatar @6:40 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

New system isn't even making a blip on CPU or disks or DB
Avatar @6:42 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

112 things on this playlist. Probably a wee bit above WFMU average.
Avatar @6:42 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Gotta get iPad and Edge working for comments
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:43 fred:

Ken could probably also use song auto scroll, with all the GIFs taking up space
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:43 WR:

Just connected. Android with chrome.
Avatar @6:44 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@WR What's it like?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:45 WR:

Ok so far. Getting acclimated
Avatar Swag For Life Member @6:46 Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Pay no attention to that Kenzo behind the curtain.
Quite a Composition indeed.
Avatar @6:47 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I should paste the source code with each song
Avatar @6:48 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

But it might all look like var a={i:function(){return $("div.comments").scrollTop()+$("div.comments").height()+1>=$("div.comments")[0].scrollHeight},b:function(){var b=a.B("#body","html");$(b).animate({scrollTop:$("div.comments")[0].scrollHeight+15},2E3,function(){a.a()})},a:function(){a.i()&&($("#body").stop(),$("#downarrow").fadeOut(500))},m:function(){$.ajax({url:a.A,dataType:"json",data:{t:a.l},success:function(b){a.s(b)},error:function(){a.f()}})},s:function(b){if(null!=b)if("token"in b&&(a.l=b.token),"reload"in b)a.j();
else if("newframe"in b)$("#body").append(b.newframe),$("#downarrow").fadeOut(0);else if("newcomments"in b){var e=a.i();$("table#comments-table").append(b.newcomments);a.g()&&(e?a.b():$("#downarrow").fadeIn(1E3))}a.f()},f:function(){window.setTimeout(a.m,a.w)},j:function(){$("span#comments_table_replaceable").load(window.location.pathname+" #comments-table")},v:function(b,e,c,g,d){a.A=b;a.w=e;a.l=c;a.h=g;a.o=d;a.c(1);a.f()},c:function(b){a.u||($("div.comments").on("scroll",a.a),a.g()&&(a.b(),a.a()),
a.u=b?0:1)},B:function(b,e){for(var c=0,g=arguments.length;c<g;c++){var d=arguments[c],f=$(d);if(0<f.scrollTop())return d;f.scrollTop(1);var h=0<f.scrollTop();f.scrollTop(0);if(h)return d}return[]},F:function(){$("div.comments,div.post").toggleClass("overlay");$("div.songs_except_comments").toggleClass("under");a.c(0)},D:function(b){$("link#noframes_style").attr("href",b?a.h:a.o);b&&(a.b(),a.a())},C:function(b){b?$("div.post").show():$("div.post").hide()},g:function(){return $("link#noframes_style").attr("href")==
a.h}};window.KDBPComm=a;a.scrollToBottom=a.b;a.initialize=a.v;a.initCommSec=a.c;a.view_switch=a.F;a.set_style_live_comments=a.D;a.set_comment_form_visibility=a.C;a.reloadCommentsSection=a.j;
Avatar @6:49 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Someone should edit that to fix W10 Edge
Avatar @6:53 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thanks everyone for the listening and presence and testing and talking and thinking and helping. Any ideas at all, please send them on. Watch how you can even keep typing comments after the show is over and they'll show up right away! You won't lose that last comment you were typing, either.

Look, I can throw you all to the bottom temporarily and we can see...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:53 WR:

Now stop that Ken. Let the guts be on the inside where the guts are supposed to be. Regarding the update. Ya done good. Not sure why others saying something about auto scroll for the playlist. I'm ok without that. The now playing at the top updated and if I scroll to the bottom the entry is there.
Avatar @6:54 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@WR Maybe so. But now the bottom is a more fun and updated place to be looking than the now playing at the top.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:55 WR:

I like being in control so the auto scroll ever time now playing updates has been an irritant to me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member @6:55 Rand al'Thor:

I like the new playlist.
Avatar @6:56 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@WR Well maybe an arrow that leads you to the bottom if you press it, and auto-scroll if you're already at the bottom that keeps you there. i.e. Like I do with the comments already.
Avatar @6:56 northguineahills:

Thanks, Ken!
Avatar @6:56 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Here I'm going to pretend to end the playlist and then start it back up and you should all not be affected at all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member @6:57 Rand al'Thor:

Thank you for the show and the playlists, Kenzo!
Avatar @6:57 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Uh oh it didn't resume me automatically on my phone browser
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:57 Phillippe Bastille:

Thanks Ken. Once both the comments and playlist windows scroll, it will make my listening experience much better when I'm listening while working. With the current format, I have to stop what I'm doing to scroll to see what others are saying or what song is playing. With the new and improved interface, I just have to look up
  @6:57 tester:

Update on Safari: toggling 'overflow: scroll' off (in dev tools) on div.songs_except_comments makes it work again.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:58 WR:

now on w10 with firefox
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:58 chresti:

Thanks Kenzo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:58 Phillippe Bastille:

*autoscroll
Avatar @6:58 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

By the way everyone, Gary is stuck on a train and so Bodega Pop Live will be delayed by about half an hour today.
Avatar @6:58 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@PB Auto scroll comments doesn't work for you? Remind me which OS/browser...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @6:59 WR:

LOL. I gotta go get on a train now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member @6:59 Rand al'Thor:

What's filling in the half hour until then?
Avatar @6:59 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@tester Makes which work again? And feel free to let me know who you are, helpful tester!
Avatar @6:59 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Random selections from Doug's Drummersome song collection.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:02 WR:

On FF on w10 all looks same. Change was more noticable on the android, and having the chat and song list not showing at same time on the phone is OK design choice. Maybe even definitely better once people use it a couple times
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:02 Phillippe Bastille:

@Kenzo comments do. I thought I saw somewhere that the playlist autoscrolling would be a nice enhancement
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:03 WR:

Duh, by same I mean on FF on w10 it looks very much like as before the change.
  @7:04 tester:

It makes the comments and posting box divs appear again on iPad and Mac Safari. Previously they were empty boxes. I assume the same would happen on plus sized iPhone in landscape as well.
Avatar @7:06 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@WR Great. The real changes are that the songs section updates itself super dynamically, and that the page never does any full page reloading...
Avatar @7:06 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@tester Thanks for the tip. These are up-to-date iPad's and Mac's, or non-updated?
Avatar @7:08 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@WR On mobile, I want to make it have a visual indicator when there's new comments or song, so you know you should flip over.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:13 Ken From Hyde Park:

Bye, see you next time. o͡͡͡╮༼ . •́ _ʖ •̀ . ༽╭o͡͡͡
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:14 WR:

On the android the playlist page changed as usual for when it is "closed". The W10 FF playlist still says playlist is still being updated.
Avatar @7:17 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Oh yeah I forgot to switch it to closed while you were all still here and test the post-show comment updating that now happens. Anyone still here?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:17 WR:

Or maybe not.... Unless you are still tweaking it I some how got confused. I went back to the page on the phone and back to playlist is still being updated.
Avatar @7:18 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

OK, well, I'm going to switch it to "finished" mode and we can continue to add comments at the bottom without needing to reload page! Let's try...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:19 WR:

go for it.
Avatar @7:19 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

It took me right to the bottom on one browser, but to the top on another. But here I am commenting..
Avatar @7:20 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I will be excited if I see a reply from you show up...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:20 WR:

confused but commenting. W10 FF
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2019 Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:21 Ken From Hyde Park:

Example comment with the finished page.
Avatar @7:21 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hooraaaaaay
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:21 WR:

Yes, the comment list updated without manual refreshed.
Avatar @7:22 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I wish I could figure out how to allow mobile to zoom out.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:25 WR:

Yes, I noticed that mobile zoom went away, for some playlists I have to zoom in to read the tiny print. And I hope you just "re-opened" the playlist because thats what I see now.
Avatar @7:26 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Zoom in should work. It's just that you can't zoom out further than the initial view, i.e. if you'd rather the wide playlist all fit on one little screen.
Avatar @7:26 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah I moved us back into in-progress view so as not to discourage further comments despite that those would still be live updated.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:30 WR:

Zoom only did a little bit, maybe because it is near the max? I dunno, but yes, cannot zoom out to make the playlist width small enough to fit into the screen.
Avatar @7:30 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I can increase the allowable zoom in...will do some more now..
Avatar @7:31 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Reload the page, should allow more zoom-in now.
Avatar @7:32 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I could allow a ton more zoom-in but I was worried about people getting lost. Your feedback helps.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:34 WR:

yes, that is good. It is enough to feel like it is responding.
Avatar @7:36 Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thanks for all your help today. Walking away from this now...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 @7:36 WR:

I'm heading into Manhattan now, laters
  @5:34 Kenzo:

Testing...
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