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Favoriting January 14, 2019: David Lowery (Camper Van Beethoven & Cracker) on music in the digital age

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Image above from the U. Georgia article, also linked below.

This week: David Lowery (of Camper Van Beethoven and Cracker) talking about musicians in the age of Spotify and Google

Pointers to David Lowery

Upcoming NYC performance: Cracker/Camper Van Beethoven play this Sunday, Jan 20, in NYC. "Ever dreamed of a Harrison Ford hero swapping his blaster for a microphone? Then Lowery’s your man." -New Yorker

• David on Twitter: @davidclowery

• David's blog: Trichordist ("Artists for an Ethical and Sustainable Internet")

• Camper Van Beethoven: @CamperBeethoven and campervanbeethoven.com

• Cracker: @TheBandCracker and crackersoul.com

Meet The New Boss, Worse Than The Old Boss? (David's notes from his 2012 talk at the SF Music Tech Summit)

David Lowery and the future of artists' rights (U. Georgia, Nov 8, 2018)

A $1.6 Billion Spotify Lawsuit Is Based On A Law Made For Player Pianos (The Verge, March 2018)

• From 2016, David Lowery, Cracker Frontman and Artist Advocate, Explains His $150 Million Lawsuit Against Spotify (Billboard)... followed, the next year, by Spotify Settles $43 Million Class Action Copyright Lawsuit (Forbes)

• From 2014, David Lowery: Here's how Pandora is destroying musicians (Salon)

Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market, aka the EU Copyright Directive, which is getting a lot of attention for its Article 13 ... leading David Lowery to write, At This Point We Have to ask Ourselves: is Google Opposed to Article 13 or the Nation State Itself? (Nov 2018) ... see also NBC News on Article 13 (June 2018).

...and finally,...

Recent News

...on the Bezos divorce...

For Owners Of Amazon’s Ring Security Cameras, Strangers May Have Been Watching Too (The Intercept, Jan 10): "Beginning in 2016, Ring reportedly provided its Ukraine-based research and development team access to a folder on Amazon’s S3 cloud storage service that contained every video created by every Ring camera around the world. . . . the video files were reportedly left unencrypted . . . [and] the Ukraine team was also provided with a corresponding database that linked each specific video file to corresponding specific Ring customers. . . . only a Ring customer’s email address was required to watch cameras from that person’s home."

Amazon Sends New Year's Greeting to Win Over New Neighbors (Bloomberg, Jan 9): mailers promise "a long and mutually beneficial partnership" from Amazon's "investment" (you know, the investment where New Yorkers pay Amazon three billion dollars to open an office!)

Apple announces new gadget stuff (WSJ, Jan 11, 2019), including "a triple rear camera for the highest-end model and a double rear camera for the two other models." Beavis & Butthead would have a field day. (Also, do users want multiple rear cameras? Or just to get back the headphone jack?)

I Gave a Bounty Hunter $300. Then He Located Our Phone (Motherboard, Jan 8, 2019): "T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T are selling access to their customers’ location data, and that data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters and others not authorized to possess it, letting them track most phones in the country." ... leading to, the very next day, this article: "Senators Kamala Harris, Mark Warner, and Ron Wyden are coming out against telcos who are selling their customers' location data."

CES News

• As CTO of Vizio says in this interview with the Verge (Jan 7) - data collection in Smart TV's is now offsetting the cost of the hardware to the point that a non-Smart TV would have a higher price tag. Just like android phones, user data is used to reduce costs and stay competitive (as Scott Manley puts it). On that point, Bruce Potter writes, "Don’t ever turn on your smart tv features, regardless of vendor. Ever. Just don’t. Don’t even configure the WiFi."

• ...on that same point, Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook (Bloomberg, Jan 8)

• Here's a fun thread about CES idiocy, including some random product called "Sleep 2.0." Remember, "smart" = surveillance. As thread author Ed Zitron puts it, "Think you sleep good? You idiot. You rube. This is sleep 2.0"

CES’s Kitchen of the Future Is Sort of a Nightmare (Eater.com, Jan 8): "Camera-laden appliances, voice-activated faucets: Seriously, who asked for this?"

Others Worth Reading

On Facebook (The Ringer, Dec 2018): "almost everyone actually hates almost every interaction with almost every algorithm online" . . . "I miss the human internet with an intensity that borders on homesickness"

This Startup Wants to Launch Giant Glowing Ads Into the Night Sky (Futurism.com, Jan 8): Russian startup StartRocket says it wants to display enormous billboard-style advertisements in the night sky using arrays of cubesats, a vision it illustrates in a concept video featuring what appear to be the McDonald’s and KFC logos hovering in the sky like new constellations. . . . According to project leader Vlad Sitnikov, this commodification of the night sky is the next logical step in advertising. . . . “We are ruled by brands and events,” he told Futurism. “The Super Bowl, Coca Cola, Brexit, the Olympics, Mercedes, FIFA, Supreme and the Mexican wall."

It's All Over (Justin Smith, Jan 2019)

Korean taxi drivers protesting ride-sharing app: thousands have been protesting for months; two taxi drivers have died already from setting themselves on fire in protest.

• If you get the TV show, "Adam Ruins Everything," Season 3, Episode 3 - "Adam Ruins Tech" - is excellent. Lots of truth about Amazon, Google, surveillance capitalism, and the tech monopolies.

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  David Lowery on how tech is changing the music business, causing musicians to make less and less money, and how things might improve in the future.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting Machinarium Soundtrack 
  Mark's intro    
  Interview with David Lowery    
0:18:49 (Pop-up)
  Your calls and comments 201-536-9368    
0:39:14 (Pop-up)
  Uncanny Valley    
0:41:39 (Pop-up)
Camper Van Beethoven  Take The Skinheads Bowling   Favoriting Telephone Free Landslide Victory 
0:54:35 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!

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Hello Mark! Techreational Vehicle Van Beetons!

Good evening!
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Beast of Boonton:

Greetings Technoids
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Ahoy there, Techtofleet!
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yeah yeah....no.

Hi Techsters
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Rich in Washington:

Hello everybodeez!
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hello folks
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Webhamster Henry:

Hi Tchtnc fans <<< startup brand
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tek no
Heck, no!
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Paranoia levels rising.

I’m just here for the bytes

Got you lock out here in cali! Stoked for the show! Thanks
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Well, the president called him Jeff Bozo, so he's done.
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Rand al'Thor:

Evening, all.
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cuomo should have steered amazon to buffalo or rochester or someplace that needed an infusion of money.
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< Is in brooklyn has a pinkie ring camera not required ,,,,
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Sean d:

Hi! Still freaked out from last weeks episode!
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Webhamster Henry:

Nice frightening set of stories this week!
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My friends have a Ring. Not only do they get to see the FedEx guys literally tossing packages through the air onto their porch, they also get to see when the neighborhood deer come to visit.
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Webhamster Henry:

The distant spawn of the Trojan Room coffee pot cam!
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can the Ring Doorbell be hooked up to our smart toilets?

Great show bro! I'm with you till we pass out of range headed south.
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I don't even have an audio doorbell, you have to knock on my house's door like the good Lord intended!
Robert Tables:

Amazing that amazon's own dev team can't properly secure an S3 bucket.
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...agrees with the above wholeheartedly
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let's all be Mister Al Go Rhythm
he's impervious
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How could a piece of technology named after a novel and movie about a supernatural monster that crawls out of a piece of technology to kill people that used a piece of technology go wront?
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triple rear camera ,,not even gonna touch that one ...
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...or wrong, for that matter.
The Butterman:

I love my Walkman. Still use it!
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Webhamster Henry:

They really should just have a device that really is a camera. Like the Android Samsung Galaxy Camera.
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hi, Mark and folks. i'm here now. whew.
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hey Chris is here!
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"moral compass"? where can I buy that?
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Webhamster Henry:

2.0 is so 2.0 .
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"Fad Gadget" was years ahead in termz of name = future
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I'm pretty that died with Jake 2.0
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If Sleep 2.0 comes w a rear camera then I'm in!
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"faucet! i'm schmaltzy!"
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That's why I name my products n.x^y
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Webhamster Henry:

I got an IoT Lightbulb for Xmas. While it could do a lot of tricks, what it needed was its own "soft" on/off switch, so it wouldn't need my phone to control it, but also not really turn its brain off.
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Rand al'Thor:

I know of Camper Van Beethoven by way of Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza, over on the Give the Drummer stream.

Now I'm even more paranoid!
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Webhamster Henry:

I concur about Adam Ruins Everything.
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oh yeah hamster
I got a smartphone made of maplesugar candy for xmas!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Win a free Tesla Model 3! All you need to do is hack into the car. newsroom.trendmicro.com...
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would have been funnier if it was a camper van.
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if anyone you know is playing the game on FB of the "First and most recent" photo, then you are helping them to keep an eye on you and your aging face. bleh!!
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Jeff Moore:

Is he one of the principals behind the great song "Truckload of Art"?
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"Some cowboys on acid..." first caught my ear back then
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annie - those will show up in geritol ads someday.
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C.V.B. got *lots* of airplay on college radio in the '80s. I wonder if they ever did "take the skinheads bowling"...
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getting closer to skynet, and eventually carousel.
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yep, very close to skynet!
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oh, did anyone watch the dropping of the Tappan Zee?
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Saw Cracker back in the '90s. Good show.
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Webhamster Henry:

Bandcamp is pretty good!
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Beast of Boonton:

'Shartify' music service
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@annie: was rescheduled for Tuesday 10am:
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Tommy in Neversink:

Is this guy in the witness protection program ?
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Webhamster Henry:

Antitrust broke up the Bell system, but it's kind of back together again.
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thanks fuzzy
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beast - ewww. but funny.
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Thank you annie for bringing it up -- I've been over that bridge a few times before and was looking for a video of the demolition.
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hopefully a live stream of it going down.
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I made this cheery clip
with a special guest at the end: bit.ly...
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how did i miss the eff corruption scandal?
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it's my favorite bridge in NYS... when we were kids we'd count the "tha-dumps" of the seam-strips across the bridge

@mrdonutsu: When you say this, “Not only do they get to see the FedEx guys literally tossing packages through the air onto their porch…” it actually plays into an idea I have about a lot of this stuff. Were any of the tossed packages actually broken? Probably not. In fact most packages are tossed and tussled every day without issue.

But thanks too 24/7 monitoring of things, you can now be made to distrust your neighbors and the people who deliver items to you each day. Why trust your neighbors? Trust Google! Or better yet trust Amazon who wants to put traditional package delivery company’s out of business!!!

TRUST NO ONE!!! (Except the company that sold you the product, tho…)
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i... can see it
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If the night sky was good enough for Hunger Games obituaries, it's good enough for the Coke bear.
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I'd like a Tesla show.
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There are always neighborhood cats and dogs sunning themselves on my porch, so, I just have to go out to give tummy rubs....
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Shartify made me laugh out loud.

FWIW, there actually is a Thomas the Tank Engine transformer toy out there. Easy to find in most any Chinatown in any city. i.ebayimg.com...
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@annie it would be fun to do fake photos for that first and last selfie thing.
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Came across this review of Bandersnatch that observes that the show becomes and exercise in schadenfreude but winds up pretty positive about it: filmschoolrejects.com...
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Sean d:

Mark! I'm still freaked out from when you said something like "Facebook and brains"
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oh,melinda,i've seen some extremely creative mock-ups...
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I am not familiar with the argument that EFF is a sellout to Google. footnotes?
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hey good FMU people
in case you're feeling delusional -- er, disillusioned -- start tagging #2019groundswell on TWTR, LI, FB, ...
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a guy has a youtube channel who bought a dead tesla. his channel is about getting it going and tesla's ( the company) trying to block him every step of the way because they own the software and hardware that makes a tesla car go.
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Thanks Mark & David!
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Henry in Hopatcong:

I just got a sponsored Facebook post about the Cracker/Camper Van Beethoven show in NYC. I guess my phone was also listening to the interview.
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Mark Hurst:

@paulo - find my interview with Yasha Levine a few months back. Read the playlist links, too.
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Mark Hurst:

@Sean - thanks for the clarification :)
@dale - post (or email me) the youtube channel, sounds interesting!
@Henry - nice to see FB surveillance operating so efficiently
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone, have a great week!
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Thanks Mark!
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mark - it's 'rich rebuilds'
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mark - watch this one for the gist of it all

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