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Options June 18, 2018: John Keating, director, "Gamechangers: Dreams of Blizzcon"

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This week: John Keating, director of the new esports documentary, "Gamechangers: Dreams of Blizzcon":

Gamechangersdocumentary.com, the film website

@GamechangersDoc on Twitter

Not in tech news, but...

Laura Bush on what's happening on the border: "I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart. . . . These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history."

Now on to recent tech news:

World Health Organization adds gaming disorder to disease classifications: "The WHO on Monday proposed adding gaming disorder to its new comprehensive manual of disease classifications, raising an immediate debate over whether it merits a separate designation."

• In response to a CNBC story that people are switching from Facebook to Instagram and Whatsapp, Paris Martineau writes: "facebook is instagram and whatsapp facebook is instagram and whatsapp ..."

• Update on "building a surveillance state": Amazon shareholders call for halt of facial recognition sales to police.

• On that same topic: Prison bus or rental car shuttle? You make the call, below.



Break Up Google, says the Boston Globe: "Never in the history of the world has a single company had so much control over what people know and think . . . [and] Google’s power is bound to grow still more. Last year, it spent more on federal lobbying than any other company. By tweaking the way information appears on search pages, Google can already promote its own websites and banish competitors to digital oblivion."



• Our friends at WFMU's In Real Life shared this video of an 8-year-old drumming to Led Zeppelin. There's hope in the next generation!

• Finally: how gaming used to be...



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Artist Track Album Comments Images Approx. start time
  About esports: John Keating talks about his new documentary, "Gamechangers: Dreams of Blizzcon," about professional Starcraft 2 players from Korea.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Options Machinarium Soundtrack   
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  Mark's intro      
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  Interview with John Keating, director, "Gamechangers"      
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0:15:00 (MP3 | )
  Your calls and comments 201-209-9368      
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0:35:49 (MP3 | )
RoccoW  Hello   Options   From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcYuPOMEjw    0:53:01 (MP3 | )

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 12:08pm herb.nyc:

(oh, the commentboard is open?!) as GAMECHANGER is a common term used (tho not as much as in past), i'm not a fan of it. but i'm just being a curmudgeon, i apoloize. ---- did i read that NKorea has a whole buncha kids playing video games, making money for the state, and that money being used to...or am i dreaming. maybe Pres* Trump and Kim Jong-Un discussed this.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 5:34pm herb.nyc:

Fashion alert: I saw young woman w GOOGLE tee. Back said NOOGLER TEAM. I'm curious. (Filed from subway underground)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:02pm listener james from westwood:

Recalls the supposed Warcraft gold farmers of the Peoples' Republic of China.

Hey hey, Mark and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:03pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark & techtonites!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:04pm ultradamno:

The Onion reports on new tactics to discourage users from quitting Facebook: www.theonion.com...
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:05pm Warren in Australia:

Hello all.
*Laurel
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:05pm melinda:

Hi everyone
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:06pm queems:

oh boy
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello, Mark and Techtongs. How 'bout the news that China will mandate all new cars to include RFID chips to track where the cars are going?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:07pm Fuzzy:

Tetris or GTFO
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:08pm Michael 98145:

Barrel-Pong !!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:08pm Tommy in Neversink:

Wait, WHO is saying online games are addictive ?
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:08pm melinda:

I'm at the Philadelphia airport, where they have replaced half of the regular seating with bar-style counters with mounted iPads. It's kind of sad.
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:08pm Torbjørn:

Diagnosis aren't diseases as such, I think. More like a definition. So that if someone comes into the office and says "I'm ruining my life due to excessive time spent on computer games", we have an agreed-to standard definition of what that means. I think this is a good thing. We should probably investigate social media and it's predatory attention-grabbing practices in the same fashion.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:09pm northguineahills:

I love video games, but I just don't have time to to play them.

I had a friend 7 years ago sell his Starcraft profile for close to $3K.....
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:09pm herb.nyc:

I watched a Douglas Rushkof docu that talked about e-gaming among young boys (in Korea?).
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:09pm queems:

i hate that instagram is facebook
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:10pm Michael 98145:

y'know what makes me angry this week? going to see a film and being bombarded with pharmaceutical and Facebook commercials before the previews. yes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:10pm northguineahills:

have a fun trip, melinda!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:11pm ultradamno:

Krazy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:11pm Tommy in Neversink:

If you have paid for the film you shouldn't have to put up with that
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:11pm Ghoffman:

I just recently permadeleted my facebook and my instagram. i officially have zero social media accounts and i feel so free
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:11pm Torbjørn:

I'd like to add that I think computer game addiction is comparable to gambling addiction. Not exactly similar to drugs, especially the drugs with physical addiction properties.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:12pm Ken From Hyde Park:

The band Klown should provide the music for their commercials.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:14pm Greg from ZONE 5:

Evening, Mark & Tektites!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:14pm Carmichael:

Like this, Melinda? www.google.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:15pm herb.nyc:

nyc MTA buses have vid cameras for security. Drivers fear it will be used against them (catching minor infractions, for instance)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:15pm Folsom:

I played so many games back in the day I was eaten by a grue.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:16pm northguineahills:

I've been using duckduck go for over four years...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:16pm Carmichael:

Defender was my game. Still is, if I could ever find one somewhere ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:17pm northguineahills:

what Tommy said....
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:18pm thedunkel:

Yoyoka Soma is fantastic!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:18pm thedunkel:

www.free80sarcade.com...
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:19pm melinda:

@Carm yes, but it's also in the middle of the gate seating areas. The bathroom soap dispensers and water fountains are out-of-order, too, it's a weird combo of high tech and shabby.
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:19pm Mac:

This is very important. George Saunders wrote a great short story about this
Avatar Mon. 6/18/18 6:19pm Jack:

I've been playing the same game since the early 90's. Am I addicted? Hell yeah!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:19pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Yet another to-do list of ways to improve ones internet privacy: www.inforum.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:22pm Carmichael:

Blocked at work, thedunkel!
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:37pm sim:

Once you age out of the half-gods' games, the full gods' games arrive. EVE Online, ftw.
Avatar Mon. 6/18/18 6:38pm geezerette:

Hello, Mark,John, gang!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:38pm northguineahills:

suck, Carmichael, I control the firewall here at work.... (there is no firewall, I prefer anarchy).
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:38pm Tommy in Neversink:

Wait, WHO is saying online games are addictive ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:39pm Phil with the phone:

@tommy the world health organization
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:41pm Tommy in Neversink:

WHO ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:41pm queems:

third base
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:41pm Phil with the phone:

the world health organization how many times do i have to say it
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:42pm ultradamno:

Who who, who who. I really want to....oh never mind.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:42pm Phil with the phone:

call me up friends! 201-209-9368

Also torb plz switch or I'm throwing
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:42pm Tommy in Neversink:

Phil...I know
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:42pm Phil with the phone:

@tommy THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:43pm sim:

John, Twitch used to be game oriented, but now seems to be dominated by soft porn. Is this a problem?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:44pm Buffalo's Tom:

Whoooo are you...gaming too much?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:44pm listener james from westwood:

"your nephew, or your cousin, or your son"—don't forget the nieces and daughters!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:44pm Phil with the phone:

there's porn on twitch!?
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:45pm cherish:

any thoughts on the future regarding longterm effects on child development from behavioral economics applied in game design?
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:46pm sim:

John, do you think AR games such as Pokemon Go has a brighter future than traditional e-sport games?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:46pm listener james from westwood:

My point was not just male players, as John had said, but also female ones.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:46pm queems:

i really liked pokemon go
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:47pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Does Twitch still have that invincible deer that runs around GTA?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:48pm northguineahills:

@Ken: That was hilarious when i discovered that!
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:48pm sim:

Phil. Yes, webcam girl kinda stuff with Amazon wish list.
Avatar Mon. 6/18/18 6:49pm geezerette:

Grahame Weinbrun predicted interactivity as the hook in digital media 40 years ago. I may have mispelled his name.
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:50pm sim:

Peacemaker. Not a popular game I guess.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:51pm ultradamno:

I always liked Centipede and Frogger. Sometimes a nice game of video Mah Jong
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:52pm sim:

John, not everyone with talent gets eaten by the big studios. Steam has indie devs. Stardew Valley, Cuphead, etc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:52pm Phil with the phone:

what john was referring to: www.youtube.com...
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:53pm cherish:

slot machines arent particularly 'fun' or great works of art but they get people hooked regardless. neuromarketing/behavioral economics are huge area of r+d in game development. its a huge market and ultimately under capitalism the bottom line is profit extraction. young and unsupervised minds are much more maleable than adults. regulation is miles behind these technologies and techniques.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:54pm Webhamster Henry:

Indeed, my son is an indie gamer developer/writer/designer/composer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:54pm Ken From Hyde Park:

My college buddies knew some way to scam Galaga machines by pushing a penny into the coin return and play for cheap.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:55pm ultradamno:

The Residents' game Bad Day On The Midway was fun. The CD Rom of (or Freakshow) doesn't work on any system I have anymore, which is a shame
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:55pm JakeGould:

Late to the party… Just here to say, “Dig Dug” sucks! “Mr. Do!” rules!!!
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:55pm sim:

Dwarf Fortress!!!!
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:56pm sim:

Dwarf Fortress!!!!
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:56pm Evan from Seattle:

Elite Dangerousis a great game.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:56pm Phil with the phone:

Team Fortress!!!!!
  Mon. 6/18/18 6:56pm Evan from Seattle:

Elite Dangerous, even
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/18/18 6:56pm northguineahills:

In Japan, I would use 10 yen coins in the arcades on base (back then, about 7 cents) b/c they were the same size and weight as quarters....
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:57pm Tommy in Neversink:

Hey ,, maybe all the people addicted to games could be causing trouble if they wernt' gaming ....maybe we should leave them alone
Avatar Mon. 6/18/18 6:57pm geezerette:

Another valuable show!
Thanks, Mark and John!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 6/18/18 6:58pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & John!
Avatar Mon. 6/18/18 6:59pm geezerette:

NGH, I love the sound of Pachinko macines. Never played though.
  Mon. 6/18/18 10:55pm John Keating:

Thank you Mark and all of you Techtonites. I had a great time and am grateful and honored to have been a guest.
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