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Favoriting April 8, 2018: All(ways) Cecil Taylor.

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Artist Track Album Label Year Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble  Tatas-Matoes   Favoriting Congliptious  Nessa  1968  0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 

The Perfect Man   Favoriting

My Brother The Wind, Vol. I 

Saturn Research  

1970 

0:03:35 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor  Pt. 1   Favoriting The Willisau Concert  Intakt Records  2000  0:11:25 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor  Pt. 2   Favoriting The Willisau Concert  Intakt Records  2000  1:01:25 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor  Pt. 3   Favoriting The Willisau Concert  Intakt Records  2000  1:15:16 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor  Pt. 4   Favoriting The Willisau Concert  Intakt Records  2000  1:17:23 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor  Pt. 5   Favoriting The Willisau Concert  Intakt Records  2000  1:19:40 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Booker T. & the MGs 

Melting Pot   Favoriting

 

 

 

1:21:27 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit  1   Favoriting One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye  hat Hut  1978  1:27:34 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit  2   Favoriting One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye  hat Hut  1978  1:50:39 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit  3   Favoriting One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye  hat Hut  1978  2:18:06 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit  4   Favoriting One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye  hat Hut  1978  2:47:07 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit  5   Favoriting One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye  hat Hut  1978  3:05:03 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Dudu Pukwana & Spear 

Flute Music   Favoriting

Flute Music 

Caroline 

1975 

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Listener comments!

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listener james from westwood:

Hey hey, Jeff and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:00am
Uncle Michael:

good morning
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
Jeff Golick:

Hey there, @listener james and @Uncle Michael!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
fred:

Godd morning Jeff and all
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Scraps {~{~§~}~}:

b’roo
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03am
Jeff Golick:

Hello, @fred, and goo day, @Scraps!
  9:03am
Mark R:

Hey, I'm here live for a change! Hi everybody!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
Jeff Golick:

Whoo! @Mark R!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07am
fred:

How could there be enough Cecil Taylor, let alone too much?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
Jeff Golick:

Amen to that, @fred.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am
Brian in UK:

Hello Jeff. Listening whilst packing boxes.
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Scraps ¥§¥¥§¥:

though Marilyn Crispell, who likes Taylor and everybody says is like Taylor, hadn’t heard Taylor when she started, when she was like Taylor from the start.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:13am
Brian in UK:

Is this what some might call classical music?
  9:16am
Stepchild:

Beautiful morning here in NJ, beautiful music in this ether. Nice to start with solo Cecil.
  9:16am
Mark R:

For some excellent articles on Mr. Taylor, might I direct you to WFMU's own Kurt Gottschalk, who wrote several articles about him for various publications, and even interviewed him at least once. Google Kurt Gottschalk Cecil Taylor for some very fine writing to accompany this very, very fine music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:17am
Jeff Golick:

Hallo, @Brian. Packing? Spring cleaning, or moving?

@Scraps: yes, Crispell can sound Taylor-like, though I wasn't really aware that she hadn't heard CT before her start

@Stepchild: thanks for being here in the ether!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:19am
fred:

@Scraps: does she have his temper? I only got to see Cecil Taylor once, he was supposed to play with Amiri Baraka, but they had an... argument so they performed separately. Both were fiery characters, and now they're both gone
Avatar 9:21am
Scraps ¥§¥¥§¥:

She didn’t have a jazz education. I’m trying to look up Spirit Music, when Crispell was interviewed by Bob Rusch, where I got that information
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24am
Jeff Golick:

This Bomb magazine piece on CT by César Aira is also great reading: bombmagazine.org...
  9:24am
Mark R:

I sometimes think solo Cecil is the best way to hear him. How did other musicians ever keep up with him?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24am
fred:

When I told about Cecil's death to a coworker who's a Jazz pianist, he was basically "good riddance". He hates free jazz, obviously
  9:25am
Stepchild:

My first time seeing Cecil perform was in Atlanta must have been mid-80s. Solo. I knew only Nefertiti, The Beautiful One — slightly. I was unprepared. Devastating.
  9:26am
Doug Schulkind:

Still trying (refusing) to process the loss of Mr. Taylor. He taught us how the love.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26am
Brian in UK:

Jeff, moving after nearly twenty three years. Off to the Shropshire countryside.
  9:26am
Doug Schulkind:

...how to love.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27am
Brian in UK:

Hello Doug, cutting out the typo middle man now!
  9:27am
Stepchild:

@Mark Do you know his Feel Trio material w Oxley and Parker? They kept up alright!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:29am
Jeff Golick:

Jimmy Lyons, too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:29am
Jeff Golick:

@Doug: I'm with you, man.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:30am
Jeff Golick:

Ah, @Brian, best of luck with the move. We too are moving, after twenty years in the same apt. Not sure which neighborhood will have us yet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:31am
Jeff Golick:

Gary Giddins is also very good on Cecil, if you're looking for more to read.
  9:32am
Doug Schulkind:

The organist for Fenway Park in Boston played Cecil Taylor’s “Rick Kick Shaw” during the first inning of the Red Sox game. The song is on Cecil’s Jazz Advance album, which was recorded in Boston.
Avatar 9:32am
hyde:

hello!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33am
Jeff Golick:

That is amazing, @Doug! He has done that sort of thing before, no? What is his name?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33am
Jeff Golick:

Greetings, @hyde!
  9:34am
Stepchild:

That is the stuff there Doug if folk are not yet able to wrap themselves around later Cecil.
  9:34am
Doug Schulkind:

OK, back to work. Wish I could stay here and wallow with you. Big hugs, Jeff.
  9:34am
Stepchild:

And even if they are!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am
Jeff Golick:

A note: Sam Rivers once said that about 80 percent of Cecil's work is composed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:35am
Uncle Michael:

The Fenway organist being the esteemed Josh Kantor...the coolest in baseball...and member of The baseball Project...who incidentally, called into the Goddamed Dve Hill Program three times last Monday.
  9:35am
Doug Schulkind:

His name is Josh Kantor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:35am
Jeff Golick:

Bye, @Doug! Peace be with you.
  9:35am
Stepchild:

I don’t believe Sam on that
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36am
Jeff Golick:

I think it entails a wider understanding of "composed," something beyond "notated music."
  9:39am
Stepchild:

Cecil spoke and wrote of improvisation and life in the instant moment. Notes and gestures certainly came from there. Structures another thing definitely.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
Jeff Golick:

This Willisau concert, btw, is available at bandcamp: ceciltaylor.bandcamp.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
Uncle Michael:

I must go, too. I'll be with you all in spirit, if not in the moment. Thanks, Jeff.
  9:42am
Stepchild:

As a notable quote it gets into an untenable opposition between composition and improvisation. But it also makes sense to say it because of the impression/assertion of many that Cecil was just doing random flailing of an unstructured kind -including fellow musicians cough Miles
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Jeff Golick:

Thanks for being here, @UM. See you 'round these parts soon.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
Jeff Golick:

An excellent point, @Stepchild.
  9:45am
Doctorjazz:

Hi folks... Taylor music much appreciated.
  9:47am
Listener Robert:

I find myself wanting to "join the conversation" this piano is having, and to laugh at the jokes -- if only I could figure out what the "people" in it were saying!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47am
Jeff Golick:

Welcome, @Doctorjazz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49am
Jeff Golick:

Hi, @Listener Robert! I'm with you -- I find myself laughing now and again, despite not knowing what, exactly, is being said.
  9:49am
Stepchild:

Try dancing instead of conversation as metaphor. Seriously.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am
Jeff Golick:

See also: www.instagram.com...
  9:52am
Listener Robert:

I guess if I were a dancer rather than a talker, I might think of it that way. But as far as foot movement is concerned, it sounds more like sidewalk traffic than dancing. Or maybe sidewalk + street -- like for instance, just there some heavy trucks rumbled thru.
  9:52am
Stepchild:

Yess
  9:54am
Listener Robert:

Dancing is more rhythmic and repetitive in one place. This, by contrast, is "going somewhere".
  9:54am
Stepchild:

Step into that head traffic I’m no dancer either but shaking it here anyway
  9:54am
Mark R:

Jeff, that Bomb magazine article was fantastic. Thanks for posting the link. And of course, for this fantastic concert. Wow!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am
Jeff Golick:

I believe that dance footage from Jason Moran's instagram is from this documentary: vimeo.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:55am
Jeff Golick:

Glad you enjoyed, @Mark R. I think a listener posted that Bomb link on Friday...can't recall who, though.
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Scraps (((§))):

Do you know (everybody) Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji? Thinking of pianists that sound “free” but are not....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56am
Jeff Golick:

Tidbit: the first producer to work with Cecil Taylor? Tom Wilson.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58am
Jeff Golick:

That name is new to me, @Scraps.
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Scraps (((§))):

Oh, you would like him! Or at least, you should try him. The “famous” one is Opus clavicembalisticum.
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Scraps (((§))):

The composer banned public showing for years because nobody could play it with the composer’s satisfaction.
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Scraps (((§))):

(There are two multi-CDs now.)
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Scraps (((§))):

(At least.)
  10:08am
Doctorjazz:

I think it was Gary Giddens who described Taylor's playing as his 10 fingers acted like 10 drummers on the piano. The dance talk reminded me of that.
  10:09am
Mark R:

I can't imagine any other show in the world that would play an entire concert like this. Thank you so much, Jeff! This is the best Cecil Taylor tribute I could ever imagine. I only have his "Unit Structures" album, his part of the "Jazz Composers Orchestra" album and the three songs he contributed to Gil Evans' "Into the Hot" album, so this solo concert has been an absolute revelation. Thanks so much for sharing this with us this morning. And yes, it is indeed an absolutely gorgeous sunny morning in NJ (and I assume most of the northeast). Made only more beautiful by the fantastic music you've chosen for us today.
  10:14am
Doctorjazz:

http://jerryjazzmusician.com/2003/03/conversations-with-gary-giddins-on-pianist-cecil-taylor/

Didn't read the whole thing (though I read lots Giddens wrote about Taylor, including his books), but an interesting interview with him about CT.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am
Jeff Golick:

@doc: I think it was author Val Wilmer who described Taylor turning the piano into "88 tuned drums," in As Serious As Your Life.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16am
Jeff Golick:

@Mark R: oh my! Just grateful for the chance to share it all. Thanks, man.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21am
alanr:

Thank you, Jeff. It means a lot to me to be able to have access through streaming to listen to all these tributes here and on other radio stations, while in Mexico City, my second life. And to read the comments here from our special CT community. Again, thank you for your work on WFMU (and elsewhere).Never enough Cecil.
  10:21am
Stepchild:

Encore encore encore
  10:21am
Doctorjazz:

Could be, Jeff, it stuck with me. I don't think I read him, maybe someone else I read quoted him...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22am
listener james from westwood:

Nicely done!!
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Scraps (((§))):

My favorite!! Yay!
  10:27am
Stepchild:

Conversation time
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:30am
Jeff Golick:

@alanr: thanks to you for being here, and chiming in to the conversation.
  10:37am
Dean:

Played just this track, no. 1 of OTMSS&NG, a couple days ago, Trance with Sonny Murray & Jimmy Lyons yesterday. Still more to revisit.

@Scraps @9:56: I do indeed know Sorabji. I have John Ogdon's Opus Clavicembalisticum and assorted other recitals. Many years ago I asked Matthew Shipp if he knew Sorabji's music. At the time he didn't, and I've been meaning ever since to send him OC. Haven't done so.
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northguineahills:

*emerges from the muck* I'm here to get pounded by 88 tonal drums!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39am
Jeff Golick:

Ok, so I didn't plan this out very well time-wise, and in order to include this entire performance by the CT Unit, this show will be going about 30 minutes over. The archive will not be able to hold it all (suitably enough).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39am
Jeff Golick:

@Dean! @northguineahills!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40am
Jeff Golick:

The momentum of this music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45am
doctorjazz:

Interesting to hear Jackson...I can hear bits of the way his music was put together later in his playing here.
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northguineahills:

Oh the humanity, we have to suffer through an extra 30 mins of Cecil!
  10:51am
Listener Robert:

That's OK, as long as it finishes in time for Jonesy's & Burnsy's 1st mic break.
  10:53am
Mark R:

I just figured out that he was 71 years old when he played that Willisau concert. I can't imagine having that kind of energy, to play that ferociously for that long, at 71.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am
Jeff Golick:

Yeah, it's astonishing, really.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am
alanr:

He was quite strong when he played at the Whitney in 2016, the last time many of us saw him.
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hyde:

this is killer stuff
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:01am
Jeff Golick:

@alanr: Yes. He seemed rather frail, physically, as he walked with helpers to the stage. But once he hit the piano...BOOM.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02am
Jeff Golick:

I like that I'm able to play these long concerts -- the overwhelming totality of it is very much part of the Cecil Taylor experience (imo).
  11:04am
Stepchild:

You did the right thing, man
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17am
Jeff Golick:

I like this line, from the Willisau concert liner notes, quoting a music journalist: «There is no Taylor style. There is only Cecil Taylor.»
  11:26am
Dean:

The OTMSS&NG liner notes report that officials denied Taylor a proper grand piano for this concert, because it was reserved for "classical pianists."
  11:27am
Stepchild:

Taste the ebony flavor resin’d ivory hued mechanics
  11:27am
Dean:

On In the Brewing Luminous he plays a whoop-ass Bosendorfer.
  11:27am
Dean:

^It Is In the Brewing Luminous
  11:28am
Stepchild:

Cecil, from his notes/poem to Garden
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:29am
fred:

I'm glad this show is going overtime, as my sister just called me to wish me a happy birthday and we talked for about as long as we did in the past ten years put together
  11:30am
rw:

Morning all. Sad to lose another great but nice to celebrate with all this music.

Happy Birthday fred!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am
Jeff Golick:

@fred: bon anniversaire!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am
fred:

I guess Scott McDowell might do a tribute as well. With Cecil Taylor there's no lack of materiel
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am
Jeff Golick:

@rw: good morning to you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am
Jeff Golick:

Yes, @fred, I suspect he will!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38am
Jeff Golick:

"materiel" instead of "material" is a pretty apt switch-up.
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Scraps (((§))):

boom!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39am
fred:

I got an early birthday gift yesterday: seeing Byambajargal Gombodorj and getiing her to sign a tourist office CD of hers I somehow got years ago.
And having a Mongolian musician recognize me instead of the other way around (I was one of about five people at one of her shows, but that was six years ago). She has my email now, I hope I'll hear about any coming shows
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am
Jeff Golick:

That is very sweet, @fred.
  11:43am
JtotheK:

Been tuned in - thanks for the Taylor tunes, Jeff. Hi everyone.
  11:43am
Dean:

This has to "4" by now...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48am
Jeff Golick:

Hello, @JtotheK!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48am
Jeff Golick:

@Dean: my digital version is cut into 5 pieces, which do not correspond exactly to the original six sides.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49am
Jeff Golick:

(It's the 2004 CD re-release from hat: www.discogs.com...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am
fred:

I'm so socially inept it isn't the first time it happened to me. The drummer from Schwervon did it twice. I'm small so I usually stay in the back and don't see who's playing (that's my excuse). Mission of Burma also once stopped me in a Paris street because I was wearing a Terre T T-shirt
  11:55am
rw:

Five? I'd have guessed only three: One Too Many, Salty Swift and Not Goodbye. But I don't really know anything that would just have been my guess.

fred, if you're small you should be in front!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55am
Jeff Golick:

JIMMY LYONS
  11:57am
Dean:

Funny, my hat Jazz Series CDs from 1991 list six tracks on the second disk in addition to the two featuring the Unit on the first disk.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am
fred:

@rw: Small and in front will get you beaten to a pulp. No thanks
  11:59am
Dean:

https://www.discogs.com/Cecil-Taylor-One-Too-Many-Salty-Swift-And-Not-Goodbye/release/2689007
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59am
Jeff Golick:

@Dean: yeah, hat has sliced and diced this in different ways: www.discogs.com...
  11:59am
rw:

Ha! Yeah, I thought about that afterward. The back is good.
  12:00pm
Dean:

Yup.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00pm
Jeff Golick:

It is essentially one giant slab of sound, though.
  12:01pm
Listener Robert:

How does the WFMU archiving know to stop here?
  12:01pm
Dean:

I have my butcher remove the fat and tendons before I play it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:03pm
Jeff Golick:

@Listener Robert: there's simply an outer limit to the size of any archived show, set at a little over three hours. I am taping the entire program, but once uploaded, only the first 3:08 (or so) will be accessible.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:03pm
fred:

@rw: Strangely enough, it got me into the inner circle of one Lightning Bolt show, which was a great experience
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:07pm
Jeff Golick:

You prematurely applaud Cecil at your peril.
  12:07pm
rw:

3 LP set seems cooler but in cases like this a CD seems like the way to go. Best to leave the slab intact.

fred, Nice! The inner circle of a Lightning Bold show is (sadly) something I'll never experience!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:08pm
fred:

@Jeff G: that also explains why Ridgewood Radio sometimes has extra content on the archives
  12:09pm
rw:

Jeff, Yeah, what was that? I didn't notice anything indicating an end.
  12:09pm
Dean:

The CDs include material not on the LPs, opening duets and a solo.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:10pm
fred:

@rw: you didn't miss much, it's a lot of fun but adds nothing to the music
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:10pm
Jeff Golick:

@rw: Would be a different listening experience, having to flip over the records, for sure.

I think it just quieted down for a sec, and folks got jumpy.
  12:10pm
Dean:

A very limited CD edition includes still more, the encore consisting of a medley of Billy Joel tunes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:11pm
Jeff Golick:

This is actually that, @Dean. Scenes from an Italian Restaurant.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:16pm
fred:

@Dean: that could have come in handy at the show I was yesterday. They clearly wanted to play more, the venue dimmed the lights on stage, after a while then cut them out. Nothing like Billy Joel to drive people out, they should have thought of this
  12:17pm
Dean:

This illustrates why nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert.
  12:20pm
rw:

Jeff, this is awesome. Thanks for playing it all the way through and putting in the overtime. Really enjoying it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:21pm
Jeff Golick:

Happy to, @rw. And also sad to. Glad you're here for it.
  12:22pm
Dean:

Worth recalling that you have played tributes to Cecil Taylor, among others, to celebrate their lives before their passing.
  12:26pm
rw:

This seems like the beginning of track 3 to me.
  12:27pm
rw:

The Not Goodbye part.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:27pm
doctorjazz:

Yup, just did the CT birthday tribute a couple of weeks ago.
Thanks for the great Taylor tribute, Jeff.
A good week to all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:27pm
doctorjazz:

(I wouldn't mind catching a Billy Joel concert-not willing to break the bank for tix, though)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:28pm
fred:

Scott played Cecil Taylor in part because he didn't want to wait for a tribute to do so. Maybe he'll play someone else. I'm sure his choice will be sound
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:33pm
fred:

@Dean: "nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert" marks you as a candidate for Yogi Berra reincarnation seats
  12:33pm
rw:

Applause!
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hyde:

amazing. thank you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:34pm
listener james from westwood:

Fuckin' majestic tribute, Jeff. Many thanks for letting him run long.
  12:36pm
Listener Robert:

Thanks for the explanation, JG. I just don't know how the digital recording works. Is file size related closely to actual duration? I'd've thought there'd be a large variation due to data compression.
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hyde:

don't forget Sonny Rollins, also still around!
  12:36pm
Dean:

Yes! Great show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:37pm
Jeff Golick:

Sonny! Yes, thanks, @hyde. Still here (though sadly not able to play any more).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:39pm
Jeff Golick:

Bye for now, @hyde! @listener james! @Listener Robert! @Dean! @fred! @rw! @doctorjazz! And all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:53pm
Jeff Golick:

Hi again. In case anyone is reading along, I misspoke earlier re the archived version of this show: it's the full show. (The 3-hr. limit is only in effect when the WFMU system is doing the recording; "home taping" allows for longer archives.)
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