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Favoriting January 8, 2018: Jace Clayton, aka DJ /rupture, author, "Uproot: Travels in 21st-Century Music and Digital Culture"

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This week on Techtonic, a live phone interview with Jace Clayton, aka DJ /rupture, who hosted Mudd Up! on WFMU for five years (archives are here). Jace's recent book Uproot: Travels in 21st-Century Music and Digital Culture offers a fascinating glimpse into how digital technology has changed music, and culture, in communities around the world:



Links:
Jace Clayton bio
Uproot Listening Guide - handpicked music to accompany each chapter of Jace's book
Gbadu and the Moirai Index (2018), Jace's performance piece to be staged near Wall Street
Sufi Plug Ins, created by Jace Clayton & team: "Sufi Plug Ins version 1, released in May 2012, is a free suite of seven audio software tools for Ableton Live (Max4Live). They include four software synthesizers hardwired to North African maqam scales with quartertone tuning built-in, a device called DEVOTION which lowers your computer’s volume 5 times a day during call to prayer (presets include Agnostic, Fervent, Devout), and a drone machine."
Jace on PBS Newshour and NPR's All Things Considered

From 2014's "Instrumentational Complexity of Music Genres and Why Simplicity Sells", referenced in Jace's Uproot Listening Guide:



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  Jace Clayton, aka DJ /rupture, speaks about his book "Uproot" and the changes in culture brought about by digital music.
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Listener comments!

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listener james from westwood:

w00t! DJ/rupture! FMU legend!
  6:01pm
melinda:

Hi all!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
chris:

Yeah! Rupture! Woohoo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Kat in Chicago:

I miss rupture!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Cool to hear DJ Rupture again. I loved the Mudd Up! program.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Webhamster Henry:

Distracted walking is a real problem!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Kat in Chicago:

I resolve to get Jace's book this week and read it
Avatar 6:10pm
βrian:

I never, ever walk while looking at a screen or having things in my ear. Call it survival instinct, but it seems more like common sense.
  6:10pm
queems:

i’m on my phone reading these comments RIGHT NOW
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
northguineahills:

I just gave my percussionist the link for all the /rupture mixes he posted.

Same thing here, βrian.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
listener james from westwood:

LOL, in the tech barons' minds, screens are for the Morlocks! ::checks Twitter::
Avatar 6:13pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I choose to have headphones & select my Audio world
- but still don't own a Screen mobile...
For me this includes Info/Talk podcasts - like Psychedelic Salon - & I'm an Astrology Enthusiast - so quality programs re that...fairly high-minded stuff that requires some cognitive attention...as well as Music of all kinds, of course...
So - what do you think of Kindle?
  6:15pm
queems:

god i love birds
Avatar 6:16pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Interwebz were supposed to be all Decentralizing
- & of course it's 1/10th of 1% thru whom everything gets funneled...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
dale:

i've had an lg dumb phone and upgraded it recently. to a bigger lg dumb phone. i just don't need it. but i have a computer and internet as well - i'm sure most people with iphones don't.
Avatar 6:17pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Lyrebirds evidencing sounds of very things destroying their habitat:
www.youtube.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
listener james from westwood:

Vast majority of my friends dig Kindles. I use the PC Kindle app, but tend to completely forget I have the book, b/c it's not a physical object I see on my nightstand.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Webhamster Henry:

Here's a survey question for you t'tonics: have you ever bought a ringtone?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Bas NL:

I made my own ringtones.. does that count?
  6:20pm
queems:

i bought a “call me maybe” ringtone back in 2012 but i have made my own since then
Avatar 6:20pm
βrian:

Never bought a ringtone, but I did follow a hacker's tutorial to load one on my Motorola Pebble, once.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Webhamster Henry:

I always make my own ringtones; I'm just curious if the old ringtone economy is still around.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Webhamster Henry:

It would be nice to take the bird's version to use as your own tone.
  6:21pm
Listener Robert:

"Mudd Up" was "years ago"? I feel so old now!

Without looking it up, I'm guessing it was on as recently as 2015.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Kat in Chicago:

The bird version would be cool. I bought a Gilbert Gottfried "booty call" ringtone once
Avatar 6:22pm
Andrew S:

i still have my iphone but i dont have service anymore so i just move books and podcasts and music from my computer to take on the road. If i "need" wifi I usually dont have to go far. I didnt realise how terribly addicted I was to my phone until i cut it off. I miss the wfmu app though :)
  6:22pm
queems:

i really want a text tone of the guy saying SCIENCE from she blinded me with science
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
northguineahills:

Almost akin to a Jaques Attali quote...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
northguineahills:

I keep my phone on silent and non-vibrant all the time.
Avatar 6:23pm
βrian:

I alway wanted a wood thrush ringtone, but I realized it would enchant me so much that I couldn't possibly pick up.
  6:23pm
Listener Robert:

Guess I was off by a bit. Longtime listeners, make your guess before looking at the archives link.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Kat in Chicago:

2012?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
northguineahills:

What Kat said, or 2011.
Avatar 6:24pm
βrian:

Auto-tune hurts my ears and makes my lunch lurch upwards.
Avatar 6:24pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'This Is Your Brain on Music' by Daniel Levitin says Music uses more dif parts of the brain @ once then anything else.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Kat in Chicago:

I have a quote of something Jace said on Mudd Up! on my Facebook profile:
“…You know, playing this music, I’m like, ‘This is really weird.’ But I also feel like we’ve just passed the whole point where normal is a thing anymore. It’s all kind of really weird, and we’re gonna just have to get used to the fact that normal’s a thing of the past, and everything’s gonna be strange from here on in.” - DJ/Rupture on Mudd Up! on WFMU, December 6, 2010
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

On my old Motorola RAZR flip phone, I made my own audio clip "Pick up the phone!" ringtone. Just used the default tone since then.
Avatar 6:27pm
βrian:

I have no apps on my iPhone, but I like that I can easily send mixed-case texts with all the appropriate diacritics in place. I don't have to text-mumble any more!
  6:28pm
Dean:

As to who controls the archive, see Clifford Lynch's marvelous recent contribution to First Monday, "Stewardship in the 'Age of Algorithms'": http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/8097/6583
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
chris:

thanks, Kat! love that idea.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
northguineahills:

I don't know, I have two stacks of vinyl and cassettes from noise/DIY/weirdo/ ???? bands I've seen in the last three months (I have still have yet to hook up my phonographs and tape players).
Avatar 6:30pm
βrian:

Thanks, Dean. For some reason, I don't follow many biblio-esque channels any more.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Webhamster Henry:

Blockchain <answer to everything>
  6:31pm
Dean:

I myself am selective, βrian, but I always scan the FM TOC, and I'm a big Lynch fan. I attended much of his stewardship seminar last semester.
Avatar 6:32pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Patreon...Listener Supported webio...Libertarianism - or Socialism?
Avatar 6:33pm
βrian:

Yep. Lynch has always been solid. I needs to remind myself.

[Backwater ennui, I guess]
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Bas NL:

I started listening via Live365 way back. It suggested listening to hundreds of stations and after two months that number had reduced to one single suggestion... WFMU. There is something to be said for systems that learn you to listen in a certain way.
Avatar 6:36pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Medium is the Massage / Message / Mass Age
  6:37pm
Dean:

"I happen to have Mr. McLuhan right here..."
Avatar 6:37pm
Davis:

i remember atari st cubase defaulted to 120 bpm..
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Webhamster Henry:

I have written a few microtonal apps too. Jace's plugins sound like fun!
Avatar 6:38pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Fascinating.
Sufis - you didn't know - the Esoteric Mystics of Islam, like the Dervishes - persecuted now by Taliban& Isis...
Avatar 6:38pm
Davis:

tons of tracks were that speed late 80s, early 90s
Avatar 6:39pm
Davis:

also the tempo for marching military bands-- colonel bogey and all that.... twice heartbeat speed
Avatar 6:40pm
βrian:

Apropos of nothing, I just purchased a brand new top-of-the-line Apple laptop, along with two brand new most-recent peripherals. The cables that came with the peripherals were *not* compatible with the laptop. Qu'est-ce que le phoque!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
listener james from westwood:

Excellent quote!

I've never bought a ringtone. On the legacy mobiles previous to the iPhone, I just used the tones installed. On the iPhone, I almost immediately carved out a loop from the Conet Project's Lincolnshire Poacher numbers station.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Webhamster Henry:

Indeed there are biases in software - just try to use programs when you are blind.
  6:42pm
Dean:

Perhaps less apropos of nothing, Ed Felten's recent posts at Freedom to Tinker about singularity are illuminating.
Avatar 6:44pm
βrian:

Otherwise put: "It just doesn't work."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
northguineahills:

Just like written/verbalized languages, coding languages limit what can and cannot be actualized.
  6:49pm
Dean:

I wish I could say I had my files stored on a cassette from 1976, when I learned rudimentary programming in high school calculus on a Wang.
Avatar 6:49pm
βrian:

Hmm, maybe an old FOX db file.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Jace! Good thoughs!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Webhamster Henry:

Oldest file: I've migrated several past computers' contents to the current ones, but I also have a paper tape of a program I wrote in the 70s. it actually predates files.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Webhamster Henry:

So there must be autotunes that know about microtonal scales, right?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Phil with the phone:

Call in at 201-209-9368! my oldest file is the AIM incoming message sound file. Still being used for my text messages lol
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Webhamster Henry:

AIM, RIP!
Avatar 6:54pm
βrian:

Henceforth, I want trigger warnings when you're going to play auto-tune!

Otherwise, I may have to turn you over to the Social Justice Kittens.
  6:55pm
JakeGould:

Oldest digital file? Do floppy disks count. I still have a 3.5" floppy disk with system admin tools I used to carry around in 1992 or so during my first job out of college.

Also from that era? McAfee on floppy to disinfect 386 PCs in the pre Windows 95 days.
  6:55pm
Dean:

OED identifies a 1954 reference to "file" in the Journal of the Ass'n of Computing Machinery, in the context of "a 'master' tape."
  6:55pm
Listener Robert:

I used to program on punch cards, mostly keypunched myself -- but didn't save any of the decks.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Webhamster Henry:

That tape was punched out by a KSR33 Teletype!
en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Like a dope, I tossed some 80-column punch cards that had some of my small programs from college days.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Webhamster Henry:

I had some punch cards too, but they actually weren't as old as that tape!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
chris:

Cumbia! Si si si!
Avatar 6:57pm
Jeff Moore:

Oh, yeah - for strictly nostalgic purposes I still have a punched-card deck containing a program I wrote (in PL/I for an IBM 360) to print out swim meet slips - also from the 1970s somewhere. It probably also includes whatever JCL was required for compile-and-go.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Webhamster Henry:

I have some 8" floppies, but no way to read them.
  6:57pm
yippie:

it all depends on your definition of digital, machines can read almost anything now
Avatar 6:58pm
βrian:

I'm sure I have floppy files, but surely no way to read them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
northguineahills:

I just tossed lost of academic data on zip disks and zip drives as most of that data is freely available or I have copies of them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
dale:

pretty sure i have zip disks and a jaz drive around.
  6:58pm
JakeGould:

I also used to have a pirated copy of the game “Moonbase IO” for the Atari 400 home computer on cassette with a hand typed label I got in 1982 or so when I copied games with two boomboxes connected with a homemade 3.5mm audio dubbing cable.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
northguineahills:

(this would have been 97-98).
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Bas NL:

I started with programming by toggling switches on a 6809 system :|
  6:59pm
JakeGould:

BYE!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
listener james from westwood:

Thanks, Mark and Jace!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Webhamster Henry:

The cassette program storage is really fun! My Prophet 600 can save its patches on cassette.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Kat in Chicago:

Even in Chicago :)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Webhamster Henry:

Yes, thanks Mark & Jace!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
melinda:

When I was a kid my dad used IBM punch cards for note paper, I think he still has some.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Webhamster Henry:

@bas NL I could toggle the RIM loader on that PDP/8e with my eyes closed.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Phil with the phone:

Here I am thinking I have an old file from 15 years ago and you dinosaurs have punch cards. Much respect, see you all next week!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Our high school had a Radio Shack TRS-80. I wonder what became of that computer? It saved data onto audio cassettes.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
chris:

thanks Mark and Jace!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
northguineahills:

Cumbia!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Webhamster Henry:

Off to fry some vocals now.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
Bas NL:

@Webhamster Henry.. now THAT'S programming ;D
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:03pm
Webhamster Henry:

Nowadays, teenagers know all these gaming tricks; so it's kind of the same thing!
Avatar 7:41pm
Jeff Moore:

I used to have the front-panel machinations to boot a PDP-11/40 from an RK05 in muscle memory... and my, didn't those DEC machines have lovely switches!

Was it the LOAD ADRS switch which went up (for safety) instead of down?
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