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Favoriting October 23, 2017: Phone-robots will fight telemarketers for you - feat. Roger Anderson, founder of Jolly Roger Telephone Co.

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Tonight on Techtonic: A conversation with Roger Anderson, founder of the Jolly Roger Telephone Company, whose phone-robots keep telemarketers in conversation as long as possible. Roger has posted to YouTube lots of recordings of notable calls.

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  Robots fighting telemarketers! Jolly Roger Telephone Co. founder Roger Anderson describes how he built voice-robots to waste telemarketers' time. Mark plays three of his favorite recordings of Jolly Roger bots speaking with human telemarketers.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting   0:05:18 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst  Mark's Intro   Favoriting
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  Interview with Roger Anderson, founder, Jolly Roger Telephone Company  
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Kosmischer Läufer  Morgenröte   Favoriting   0:38:20 (Pop-up)
  Two more calls from Jolly Roger Telephone Co     0:40:08 (Pop-up)
  Scam Roundup from Station Manager Ken  
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Randy Travis  Forever And Ever, Amen   Favoriting    


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Listener comments!

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JollyRoger:

"Jolly Roger" Anderson is here! Looking forward to interacting with Mark and the audience!
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Fredericks:

Long Live Power Point!
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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark, Roger, and all!
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Fredericks:

Hello Jolly Roger!
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Carmichael:

I use NoMoreRobo. Seems to work pretty well.
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geezerette:

Hello, Mark!
Ahoy, Jolly Roger!
& buddies!
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queems:

oh god the circle made me a nervous wreck
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Webhamster Henry:

Google feels we are not taking enough photographs.
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Carmichael:

That way, when someone steals my phone, they steal ALL my data.
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geezerette:

Webham Henry, exactly.

@Mark, you aren't being cynical. You're being observant.
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glenn:

ahoy! this is your captain speaking.
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Jeff:

Remember the 1989 analog version of the fun automatic-picture-taking camera?

The Konica Kanpai!

The party camera.

"The main attraction is its voice-activation, though. After adjusting to the ambient sound level, the camera reacts to loud voices or noises, indicated by a row of LEDs on the front. Standing on its funny tripod with basket shoes, it turns within a 45° angle toward the source of the sound and takes a picture automatically."

camera-wiki.org...
Avatar 6:12pm
northguineahills:

I was visiting my parents and caught my Dad in a 2 hour call about to pay for $2500 to upgrade his norton security on his computer, I shut that down quick.
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JollyRoger:

Actually, Mark is a bot right now. We created it together.
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glenn:

i'd like to strangle them all, the fuckers.
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Jeff:

collectiblend.com...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I basically gave up on answering the phone anymore. I only pick up if it's someone I know. I do like the idea of someone who's wasting the telemarketers' time.
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Nice to see everyone here. And welcome, Roger!
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Webhamster Henry:

Sharon calls me two or three times week. On all my lines.
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listener james from westwood:

Oh, this is delightfully evil.
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queems:

i love this
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joe mulligan:

oh gawd who is this SEM punk representing!?!
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steve:

haha there's a bee
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listener james from westwood:

My fellow copy editors seem to have been plagued by several sales Heathers. No Winonas yet though.
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Jeff:

It had me at bee.
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glenn:

evil, and awesome.
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Mark Hurst:

Uh-huh?
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Webhamster Henry:

It's like Andy Breckman.
  6:17pm
Listener142985:

I want this thing right now! Awesome. better than Longmont Potion Castle.
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geezerette:

I'm afraid to touch it.
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northguineahills:

I don't even have my ringer turned on. If I don't see my phone, I won't pick up.

It does sound like Andy Breckman.
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queems:

this sounds like something my dad would do but he's a live person
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Bas NL:

This is soooo great!!
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northguineahills:

delightfully beautiful!
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dale:

one night our phone rang 6 or 7 times and when the machine was about to pick up the caller hung up so we couldn't screen. 8th time i pick up and scream 'what? what the fuck do you want so bad you have to call over and over?!' then a little tiny voice asks for my wife - it was one of her clients. i felt horrible and she said he always does that if he doesn't get through.
  6:19pm
herb.nyc:

Wait, no bees were harmed, right?
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JollyRoger:

That bee won't leave me alone!
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listener james from westwood:

Can we get a Cathy McGinty version? "::burp:: Sorry, I'm gassy!"
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Webhamster Henry:

iPhone apps can't directly talk to the phone side of the device, but you could set up my app Yes Session to do more or less the same thing: wait for gaps in the conversation and insert a random sample.
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Jeff:

Given the annoying BS of caller-ID spoofing, the calls I'm least likely to answer are the ones seeming to come from my exact same area code and exchange.
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Webhamster Henry:

Well, there's a purported scam about answering "Yes", that they record your assent and use it to authorize over-the-phone services.
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Bas NL:

I once managed to hang on to a telemarketer for 45 minutes and in the end he confessed he hated his job and he promised to quit next day.
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queems:

i started seeing phone numbers from the town i'm from and i keep thinking they are doctors offices so i answer but they are always telemarketers
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Carmichael:

I get telemarketing calls from unused internal numbers here at the government agency where I work.
  6:24pm
Bea:

I loved hearing the bots talking to each other!
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Webhamster Henry:

I make strong arguments for unionizing call centers and urge the agent to join with the other cubicles in a mass walkout.
  6:26pm
melinda:

The clip made me lol
  6:27pm
Syl:

Right, what about the scam that Webhamster Henry mentions -- the telemarketer/company records you saying "Yes" and uses that to prove you assented to a service or purchase. How does Jolly Roger protect you from that?
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Ken From Hyde Park:

In the 70s, my dad kept a guy from Fingerhut on the line for maybe an hour, just stringing him along. The guy finally asked if Dad could send in a check, he responded he was just wondering about the product. The telemarketer started swearing and hung up.
  6:28pm
melinda:

I get Sharon calls at work a lot.
  6:30pm
Bea:

These are robots I can get behind!
  6:32pm
Dean:

I'm not so sure the recorded assent makes much difference. How is payment made?
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Too bad the Workaholics show in Comedy Central has run its course before the guys could do an episode with these bots.
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northguineahills:

Crap, I'm in my 40s and I prefer to never use my phone for voice calls except to call my parents.
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joe mulligan:

I love playing the "Turing Test" with bots when they call me. I ask them, "what's your favorite color," "what was the last movie you watched," or, "how would you feel if I told you I liked you?"
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Jeff:

Thanks, @JollyRoger!
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JollyRoger:

I've never found an actual case of "you said yes to us, here's 1000lb of cheese" happening. Also, the voice saying "yes" is not yours. I think of it as "what if your drunk roommate answered the phone?"
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northguineahills:

Thanks Jolly Roger, that was superb!
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Jeff:

Mmm, 1000lb of cheese.
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JollyRoger:

At one point, Moby Dick says "Your mom? Totally hot". He cracked us all up.
  6:37pm
Bea:

Can't wait for Skeptech - the first one was AWESOME!
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northguineahills:

Nearly half of my tee-shirt wardrobe are WFMU tees.
  6:38pm
Syl:

Thanks for the answer re: the "Yes" scam, Roger. Do you think that scam is an urban legend? The FCC and BBB have issued warnings about it, but I wonder if there have been any actual victims.
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, Bea! Hope everyone can make it to Skeptech this Thursday. Here's the signup link: montyhall.ticketfly.com...
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queems:

this guy is mad
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JollyRoger:

I don't like to call it an urban legend, but yes, I think that's what it is. There was a lot of hysteria over it. This person found "patient zero" www.archersecuritygroup.com...
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joe mulligan:

brilliant work JollyRoger, and fun interview! Have you guys ever heard of Sam Kidel who plays warped muzak to telemarketers? www.factmag.com...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Act like a man, ya dumb robot!
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Webhamster Henry:

@Jolly Roger indeed, the "assent" story did sound specious to me, which is why I gave it the epithet "purported".

I used to work in the emergency notification business, doing email, and had lots of trouble trying to get legitimate email past spam catchers!
  6:43pm
Bea:

The robots are so much nicer than the telemarketer!
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JollyRoger:

This guy makes a living wearing you down. He just got worn down by the bots and he never called back.
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northguineahills:

jajaja!
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chris:

good robot, here's a cookie.
  6:44pm
Paul in Bloomfield:

this is amazing
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queems:

seriously though, the audacity of this guy. like, he just invaded someone else's space and then he's mad about it
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Mark Hurst:

"Are you a real person?" ASKS THE ROBOT
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Folsom:

Ken should do the Old Codger voice for Jolly Roger.
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Webhamster Henry:

The next step is of course more AI on both sides. Commerce will kind of ensue.
  6:46pm
Syl:

Thanks for that article! It's so difficult to find good, hard info about this stuff.
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northguineahills:

great idea Folsom!
  6:47pm
Paul in Bloomfield:

@jolly roger i love this! thank you!
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Webhamster Henry:

(Irwin does the voice, but whatever)
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glenn:

yeah, no. i'm not ever going to florida. no offense, n.g.h.
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Folsom:

Ah I always thought that Ken did Old Codger - good to know.
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glenn:

and really, i have zero sympathy for anybody who can't figure out they're being messed with.
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JollyRoger:

It breaks my heart that some people pay this.
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Webhamster Henry:

I mentioned Andy Breckman because A) Ken did a show with prerecorded Andy samples once and B) I wrote this app (which I think is no longer in the store)
itunes.apple.com...
  6:51pm
Dean:

Another legal question: Is it illegal in some states to record a call without both parties' consent (or a warrant)?
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Fox:

That older voice actor sounds strikingly like the friend of Joe Frank, Larry Block
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JollyRoger:

We have "non-recording" numbers also. But those laws don't really apply since there's only one human on the phone.
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Webhamster Henry:

It's a fun project, Roger! What a business plan!
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JollyRoger:

Excellent job, Mark! Thank you!
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JollyRoger:

Thank you Henry! You did a great job!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks for being on the show, Roger!
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glenn:

i've received 6 phone calls on my land line in the past hour. all telemarketers.
  6:53pm
Fred:

Ken, maybe you should try meshugaless.
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dale:

girl scout cookies are a scam too. last time i bought them i paid for my thin mints and asked what the money was for. lady told me they were taking their troop to paris. and here i thought they would clothe and feed the poor.
  6:54pm
xunknown:

Check your pronunciation on Nevada!
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dale:

and those clothing donation bins are a scam. clothes usually go to resellers and NOT goodwill or salvay.
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queems:

@dale as far as i know, girl scout cookie money isn't typically used for charity. at least my troop never used it for that
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dale:

...and don't get me going on kars for kids.
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glenn:

huh. don't most guys crochet while watching porn?
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geezerette:

Mark, this is such a great show.
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chris:

crossword puzzles for me, glenn
  6:57pm
xunknown:

The ‘a’s in Nevada are pronounced like the ‘a’ in cat!
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northguineahills:

Thanks Mark!
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Cooh John:

Great show.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I like how the computer virus displayed the jolly roger as it blew up the mother ship in the Independence Day movie. Thanks, Mark, Roger, Ken and team.
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chris:

thanks, Mark and Ken and Team!
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listener james from westwood:

Thanks, all!
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Webhamster Henry:

The Anymatic Zingatron may return as a webapp so everyone can use it!
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JollyRoger:

I'm so flattered! Thanks so much for hosting this chat! You can all get in touch with me at jollyrogertelephone.com. Facebook youtube, etc. Also roger@jollyrogertelephone.com. Thanks everyone!
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Jeff:

@xunknown: I'd contend that Nevadans may pronounce it that way, but people from elsewhere will choose `o' as in bot!
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Jeff:

...and then there's Missouri / Missourah
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