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Options March 16, 2014

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Antony Milton  Breezeless   Options Sirens  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Ou  Palle di Natale   Options Pisces Crisis  0:02:52 (Pop-up)
Peter Hammill/Gary Lucas  This Is Showbiz   Options Other World  0:07:08 (Pop-up)
Michael Columbia  Bengal Tiger   Options Stay Hard  0:09:39 (Pop-up)
Botany  Owa   Options Lava Diviner (Truestory)  0:13:12 (Pop-up)
Perucho's  Tumor   Options V/A: La Ciudad Secreta: Sonidos Experimentales en la Barcelona Pre-Olimpica 1971-1991  0:16:07 (Pop-up)
Charles Mingus  Boogie Stop Shuffle   Options Mingus Ah Um  0:26:21 (Pop-up)
Okkyung Lee  That Undeniable Empty Feeling   Options Nihm  0:31:27 (Pop-up)
Art Pepper  Birks Works   Options Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section  0:34:50 (Pop-up)
Matthew DeGennaro  Forty (for Pip Proud)   Options Chang Tzu Motherfucker  0:39:29 (Pop-up)
Piero Milesi  Questa non é la mia voce   Options The Nuclear Observatory of Mr. Nanof  0:54:15 (Pop-up)
Gisèle Ricard  Immersion   Options Électroacoustique (1980–1987)  0:58:09 (Pop-up)
The Use  Slim's Pursuit   Options What's the Use?  1:06:01 (Pop-up)
Phil Minton  Hello Yodel   Options V/A: Public Sound #4  1:10:07 (Pop-up)
Maggie and Sarah Chambers  Beggarman   Options V/A: Under the Hills and Nearby  1:16:23 (Pop-up)
Lorraine Lee  Kittery Point/Alaina's Toy   Options Beloved Awake  1:17:58 (Pop-up)
Mice Parade  Ramda's Focus   Options Mokoondi  1:23:09 (Pop-up)
Hubert Laws  Miedo   Options Flute By-Laws  1:26:37 (Pop-up)
Belfi/Grubbs/Pilia  Cool Side of the Pillow   Options Dust & Mirrors  1:31:45 (Pop-up)
Lawrence  [Track 1]   Options Lawrence  1:38:24 (Pop-up)
Bud Powell  Tea for Two   Options Birdland 1953  1:43:02 (Pop-up)
Bill Burns  Kids imitating dogs, boats, and airplanes   Options Dogs and Boats and Airplanes Choir  1:48:27 (Pop-up)
Thomas Lehn/Marcus Schmickler  Temp/Close   Options Bart  1:52:57 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!

Avatar 10:01pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, friends and neighbors.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03pm pacific standard simon:

Hi, Dave!
  10:04pm !.!:

MANDL: this gonna be the best show of your life!!!
Avatar 10:04pm Dave Mandl:

Hey @pss, !.!
Avatar 10:05pm Dave Mandl:

I hope that's true.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05pm mariano:

'Evening, all. This Ou is really nice!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05pm pacific standard simon:

I just tumbled onto the greatest Tumblr ever, My Husband's Stupid Record Collection:

Avatar 10:06pm Dave Mandl:

Yeah, that was making the rounds here at FMU. Haven't had a chance to check it out myself, though.
Avatar 10:07pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, @mariano. Yeah, it's brand new. Produced by Amy Denio.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07pm mariano:

Ooh, thanks, PSS!
  10:07pm jeff:

great start to the show! killer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08pm pacific standard simon:

It's not some one-dimensional put-down blog; she actually listens to the stuff and tries to figure it out, and even likes some of it.
Avatar 10:09pm Dave Mandl:

Hey, @jeff. Thanks.
  10:10pm jeff:

always love hearing the different sides of AM. love those NZ jammers...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10pm pacific standard simon:

Also, noting the passing of Scott Ashton, Stooges drummer, at 64.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15pm pacific standard simon:

Missed having this show last week, but you can't beat Hoof And Mouth for outrageous weirdness, and of course it was fun spotting you in the band, Dave.
Avatar 10:16pm Dave Mandl:

@pss: Thanks. I told them to keep the camera off me.
  10:18pm jeff:

this has klezmer vibes is a super weird way. i dig it.
Avatar 10:22pm Droll:

pss, I love hearing how different players sound on the same tubs with the same mic setup. Evan and Dennis are such natural listener/players -- they never take their eyes off the singer (except during gratuitous fills). DM is a natural bassist (according to him).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23pm Andrew Waterloo:

I'm really enjoying that tumblr.
  10:23pm JakeGould:

Is “My Husband's Stupid Record Collection” ironic?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27pm pacific standard simon:

@Jake - I think the root of the title is in her admission that she's had to help move all those records 5 times in 9 years (!!!). IRONY.

@Droll - you think about music in an interesting way.
Avatar 10:29pm Dave Mandl:

@droll: I don't know about "natural," but I am a bassist, true.
Avatar 10:29pm Droll:

pss, I'll take that as the pejorative as which it was intended. Thank you for noticing!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:30pm Nardo:

One of my fave Mingus pieces from one of my fave Mingus LPs!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:31pm pacific standard simon:

Hey, at least I didn't say you think like a music critic!
Avatar 10:31pm Dave Mandl:

@Nardo: Happy to hear it.
Avatar 10:32pm Dave Mandl:

BTW, thanks to all of you for being so nice to my daughter Val the other week. She really loved it.
Avatar 10:34pm Cory:

careful man, she could be stealing your job next week. it sounds like you've done a good job w/ her.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34pm pacific standard simon:

My wife frequently refers to my stuff as "those goddam comic books" or "those stupid cassettes", but she'll defend to the death my right to have the things I really want. When I moved up here, I dumped 2/3 of my record collection because I haven't owned a working turntable in years.
  10:35pm P-90:

Avatar 10:35pm Dave Mandl:

@Cory: Thanks. That's an occupational hazard.
  Swag For Life Member 10:36pm 12539:

How could you not like the girl who gave us the phrase, "Old school hipster music?"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37pm pacific standard simon:

It's easy to be nice to smart, charming kids. I wouldn't necessarily want to listen to her radio show, though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38pm pacific standard simon:

Jeez, that sounds patronizing. Well, fuck it.
Avatar 10:39pm Dave Mandl:

Well, if you like this show, good chance you wouldn't like hers (musically).
Avatar 10:39pm Dave Mandl:

@12539: Bill Mac was thrilled to be called a hipster.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40pm pacific standard simon:

Man, do I like this show right now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:43pm mariano:

I learn so much on every show. Never heard DeGennaro before, this is beautiful.
  10:44pm P-90:

Val could have a mini "show-within-a-show" as an occasional part of World of Echo. Ten minutes to play whatever she thinks the ancient wizened hipsters should get turned on to. With spoken introductions written by and starring Val.
  10:45pm P-90:

Gruppenfuhrer Ken would love it
Avatar 10:45pm Dave Mandl:

@mariano: Funny thing is, I included a track of his on my Marathon premium. His stuff is really hard to find. I've just got a few things in digital form that I think were on cassette originally.
Avatar 10:45pm Dave Mandl:

@P-90: Ha. She'd probably love that. The main problem is that it's too late on a school night.
  10:47pm JakeGould:

Well, I like the title “My Husband's Stupid Record Collection” , but the content is just blah, blah, blah, blah. If she did one paragraph per record I would like it. Now? It just seems like some NPR joke.
  10:49pm Carmichael:

Hi Dave, eating a gift of jalapeño pistachios whilst listening. Wonderful set.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49pm pacific standard simon:

Talk to Doug Schulkind -- maybe Val could do something from home, possibly as a part of one of Doug's shows (or Bodega Pop).
  10:49pm P-90:

@Dave: I was thinking you would produce her segments in advance. See? there's no way out...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:50pm Andrew Waterloo:

That Matthew DeGennaro is available at www.softabuse.com and they're listing another one as coming soon.
  10:51pm JakeGould:

Well, the think is the complaining about schlepping media from place to place is one thing. Decent concept. But her extremely Brooklyn hipster self-conscious self-deprecation is nauseating. “This project was my idea, inspired by maybe one too many glasses of wine last weekend, when I was in charge of changing the music.” Good grief!
  10:51pm P-90:

@ Andrew W.: thanks for the link, real curious about him now
  10:52pm ccrides:

Bonus tracks are nice!!!...:)O(:..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53pm Andrew Waterloo:

Actually if you go through the catalogue they have 2 CDs available as well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54pm pacific standard simon:

@Jake - my reaction is just the opposite. I like that she gets into the details of her reactions to what she's hearing. Too many posters on Tumblr spend too little time thinking before posting, for my taste. Regarding your second comment, well, that's real life!
  10:57pm JakeGould:

Well, I disagree. I find Tumblr to be perfect for short combos of images & test. Like Twitter & Flickr combined. But it is so, so, so, so self-aware… And then I found this… “Her husband is Alex Goodman from On the Media.” Arrrgh! A media aware person who works in the media is now commenting on the media, in the media on the web. Sorry, but… No.
Avatar 11:00pm Dave Mandl:

@Carmichael: Thanks. And welcome, Jake, Andrew, ccrides,
  11:00pm ccrides:

Overtones of 'Georgie Girl' kept running through my mind..?..hehehe
  11:00pm JakeGould:

There’s basically a “learned helplessness” in the whole thing I cannot swallow.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:01pm Andrew Waterloo:

A lot of those metafilter comments are stuck on the fact that she's a woman instead of normal person among record collectors.
Avatar 11:01pm Dave Mandl:

@Andrew: Thanks. Yeah, the LP is pretty available, but I think some of the other things I have by DeGennaro were cassette-only. I could be wrong.
  11:02pm JakeGould:

Well, we have to agree to disagree. Because I used to have a decent sized record & CD collection… Then when MP3s became a thing, I sold them off… Sorry… But it saves my back, space & money… Money which I can then toss back to places WFMU!
Avatar 11:03pm Droll:

[back from dinner break]
Methinks yinz need to put "Social Media" back on the shelf it belongs -- value what editors do.

And as far as DJ Val, I'd listen to her show before anything on ClearChannel/Viacom.

DM, So, do you eventually go back to a 3 hour show like Jonsey gets his hour back?
Avatar 11:05pm Dave Mandl:

@Droll: No idea. The change to the Sunday grid (not just me) may be permanent, but we'll find out when the next schedule is announced--in May, I think?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:05pm pacific standard simon:

Apparently, most of those Metafilter commenters have never been in a relationship with someone who doesn't share their musical involvement.

@Jake - Never heard of "On The Media", but I'll go Google it later.
Avatar 11:05pm Dave Mandl:

I appreciate it, though!
  11:08pm JakeGould:

Her husband shows up in the MetaFilter thread and says, “We started this thing two weeks ago with no goal other than to get to know each other better.” Nothing says you will get to know each other better than talking about each other in 3rd person via a Tumblr blog!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:10pm Ike:

Sometimes "On the Media" is an excellent show, much better & with more critical thinking than a lot of NPR, and sometimes it's basically the same media criticism offered by the Daily Show & the Colbert Report but without humor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11pm Andrew Waterloo:

PSS, Apparently most of the Metafilter commenters have never had a large record collection either. There's probably a good chunk of music that they do listen to together.
Avatar 11:11pm Droll:

. o O ( If only these 15-minute slots of fame were handed out more fairly... )
  11:13pm JakeGould:

Okay, since I should like a negative nelly I will say this: If they did their own podcast or radio show where they spend 30 minutes picking & album and then both critiquing it in real-time… Okay… That is something… But as a blog, I was scrolling & saying to myself, “Is there going to be a picture of her with a glass of wine & an album cover?” BINGO! YES!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13pm pacific standard simon:

Whoah, Jake, take it easy! I think the 'getting to know each other better' part is in the 'listening together and talking' part, not the 'writing a cute blog post' part.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:15pm fleep:

I got bored real fast.
Avatar 11:15pm earrie:

Can you click away from the page, maybe?
Avatar 11:15pm Droll:

fleep, I'll bet I got bored faster. I never clicked the bait.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18pm pacific standard simon:

Hey Dave -- cue up that one homemade music post I put on Tumblr! :D
  Swag For Life Member 11:19pm 12539:

I wonder if you guys would like a tumblr of Val going through her dad's LPs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:20pm pacific standard simon:

Probably wouldn't be any irony there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24pm pacific standard simon:

"Crap!" "Ugh!" "No way!" "I'm not listening to this!" "Dad, you ARE an old-school hipster."
  11:24pm JakeGould:

The “On the Media” blog has an entry on her blog and they even say “her review of some terrible Anthrax record”… That is just hipster snottiness right there. www.onthemedia.org...
Avatar 11:24pm Droll:

12539, I think she's already expressed her opinion about "Old school hipster music": she probably couldn't muster a Tweet to review the entire FMU record library... Which is precisely why her voice is so important!
  11:26pm ccrides:

Wait for 'it'!!!...:)O(:..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27pm Andrew Waterloo:

I'm sure my daughter's favourite line would be "another album that's just noise and background singing"
Avatar 11:28pm Droll:

Andrew, I think she's already visited my YT page.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28pm pacific standard simon:

Jake, that link would have sold me on checking out the blog if I'd found it myself.
Avatar 11:29pm Droll:

Flute solo, but no Mellotron or prime-number time signature... Mandl's losing his edge...
  11:30pm ccrides:

Ahhhhh...'it' came!!!...:)O(:..
  11:31pm Carmichael:

This is a gorgeous flute piece, Dave,
  11:31pm JakeGould:

Agree to disagree. Cleaning up & listening to the music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:31pm pacific standard simon:

My wife's limited musical interest sometimes drives me nuts, but at least she hates commercial broadcast radio as much as I do, and she did turn me on to Leonard Cohen (and a few other good things).
Avatar 11:32pm Whooda:

@Carcichael are those yummy pistachios your're munching Diamond brand pistactios? Curious minds want to know.
  11:35pm Carmichael:

@Whhoda: a can a week, that's all we ask.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:37pm pacific standard simon:

@Dave M - BTW, since YOU weren't available for adoption, I paid up my pledge and adopted Matt Fiveash. Get your self in there NEXT year.
Avatar 11:37pm Whooda:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39pm pacific standard simon:

I didn't know there were statues of Stardust and Fantomah!
  11:39pm JakeGould:

“My wife's limited musical interest sometimes drives me nuts…” All’s I gotta say is: I don’t care about anyone else’s personal musical taste. And my only pet peeve is I cannot understand folks who don’t understand that 99.9% of people out there will not agree with anyone else’s taste on anything.
  11:39pm JakeGould:

Relationships are ven diagrams & not perfect fits.
Avatar 11:40pm Droll:

DM, For gaps that shorts you should just hit the dump button and sound pro.
Avatar 11:41pm Dave Mandl:

@Drool: Nah, it's radio-verité on this show.
  11:41pm ccrides:

I think I'm trippin', already!!!...:)O(:..
Avatar 11:42pm Dave Mandl:

Sorry I'm so far behind on the comments. @Carmichael: Yeah, I really like Hubert Laws's music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42pm pacific standard simon:

Jake, my comment is fair, because she still makes sarcastic comments about me listening to stuff like World Of Echo despite having been married to me for 29 years.
Avatar 11:42pm Dave Mandl:

@pss: I never got around to putting myself up for adoption. Next year, definitely. But thanks for thinking of me.
  11:44pm ccrides:

Here we go!!!...:)O(:..
Avatar 11:45pm Dave Mandl:

Val doesn't really mind my music, though on her own time she'll listen to Nikki Minaj et al.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47pm pacific standard simon:

I could listen to 2 hours of Bud Powell...
  11:48pm JakeGould:

Nothing wrong with Bud Powell. Peace!
Avatar 11:48pm Dave Mandl:

@pss: Well, now you can! This is a new 3-D set.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49pm pacific standard simon:

  11:50pm ccrides:

I bet Leon really dug that!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51pm pacific standard simon:

Only on WoE!
Avatar 11:54pm Dave Mandl:

Sorry, that was *3-CD* set. It's not in 3-D as far as I know.
Avatar 11:56pm Droll:

DM, "et al." is soooo Old School Hipster! Nowadays they say "Featuring". I can't believe you already blew through 2 hours. Glad to hear you're going back to 3 hours in May, or are you staying 2 hours and letting Val pick up the third hour for 1-Direction earcandy?
  Swag For Life Member 11:57pm 12539:

Crazy talkover music.

Thanks, Dave.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58pm pacific standard simon:

I knew what you meant. And, if it wasn't clear, I loved the Bill Burns.
Avatar 11:58pm earrie:

Thanks Dave. Good listeningk.
Avatar 11:59pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks, everyone. Have a great week.
Avatar 11:59pm Cory:

g.night dave. thanks
  12:00am P-90:

Thanks, Dave! Have a great seven days!
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