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Options February 9, 2015: Odes & hymns.

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Artist Track Album Label Year
Roscoe Mitchell  Tatas-Matoes   Options Congliptious  Nessa  1968 
Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 
The Perfect Man   Options The Singles  Evidence  1974/1996 
Dannie Richmond Quartet  Ode to Mingus   Options Ode to Mingus  Soul Note  1979 
Charles Mingus  Goodbye Pork Pie Hat   Options Mingus Ah Um  Columbia  1959 
Art Ensemble of Chicago  Charlie M   Options Full Force  ECM  1980 
Music behind DJ:
John Cale & Terry Riley 
Church of Anthrax   Options Church of Anthrax  Columbia  1971 
World Saxophone Quartet  Dance Until Dawn (For Little Anthony)   Options Dances and Ballads  Elektra/Nonesuch  1987 
Dennis González & Faruq Z Bey w/ Northwoods Improvisers Septet  Hymn for Tomasz Stańko   Options Hymn for Tomasz Stańko  Qbico  2009 
Frank Gordon  Clarion Echoes   Options Clarion Echoes  Soul Note  1985 
Air  Buddy Bolden's Blues   Options Air Lore  Arista Novus  1979 
David Murray Trio  Take the Coltrane   Options The Hill  Black Saint  1988 
Music behind DJ:
Booker T. & the MG's 
Melting Pot   Options Melting Pot  Stax  1971 
Gianluigi Trovesi Octet  From G to G   Options From G to G  Soul Note  1992 
Synthesis  Flowers for Albert   Options Sentiments  Ra Records  1979 
Anthony Braxton  Mohawk   Options Charlie Parker Project 1993  hat ART  1995 
Music behind DJ:
Dudu Pukwana & Spear 
Flute Music   Options Flute Music  Caroline  1975 

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 11:59am listener james from westwood:

Good morning, Jeff, Jeff, and all!!
Avatar    Mon. 2/9/15 12:01pm duke:

Happy snowy day LJFW, Jeffs, Doug, and ell etc.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:01pm Jeff J:

Morning Listener James! Thanks for joining us.
Avatar    Mon. 2/9/15 12:01pm duke:

Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:02pm Jeff J:

Heya Duke! Rainy not snowy here, but definitely under some weather.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:06pm Doug Schulkind:

Not working today! Two full hours of D:O magnificence!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 2/9/15 12:06pm fred:

Good afternoon Jeffs and non-Jeffs
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:07pm listener james from westwood:

Workload is light on this side, too, so distractions will be minimal!
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:08pm Jeff J:

Good afternoon Fred! And Doug - glad you're with us for the full Monty!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:09pm Webhamster Henry:

Good afternoon (East coast), I'm the only one in the office.
Avatar    Mon. 2/9/15 12:10pm duke:

Did the Grammys happen last night? I feel either old or weird because I don't care about any of the people that are mentioned on the news as winning?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:11pm Jeff Golick:

I think they did, @duke! Was similarly (blissfully) ignorant until I got a news update on my tablet...
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:12pm Jeff J:

Afternoon, Henry. Glad you could be with us and free of pesky co-workers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:12pm Jeff Golick:

Bass player Mike Richmond (no relation to Dannie) gets the unenviable job of holding the low end down for this Mingus tribute.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:13pm Jeff J:

Grammys - Not Newsworthy since.... the 70s?
  Mon. 2/9/15 12:15pm Dean:

Mike Richmond has played bass with Mingus Big Band in NYC.
Avatar    Mon. 2/9/15 12:15pm duke:

That was a pretty slick change up in Ode to Mingus
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:20pm Jeff Golick:

Soul Note/Black Saint/Giovanni Bonandrini really kept the flame alive there for a while...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:21pm Jeff Golick:

Thanks, listener "wikipedia" Dean!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:25pm Webhamster Henry:

Who needs the Grammys when you have Hoof 'n' Mouth?
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:26pm Doug Schulkind:

In the earliest '80s, I saw a Mingus rep band with Don Pullen and Mike Richmond. (Was that Mingus Fantasy? I can't recall the name.) Pretty amazingly great. In that show, Pullen dislocated a finger in the middle of a punishing piano solo. He pulled his digit back into position and kept pounding. Must've been in intense pain, but you couldn't tell it.
  Mon. 2/9/15 12:27pm Dean:

The "pedia" in this case was my recollection of liner notes. I heard MBB at Fez under Time Cafe about 15 years ago. The cafe was jam-packed and the subway rumbled periodically under the floor. Quite a show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:27pm Jeff Golick:

Was that at Fez, Doug?
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:28pm Jeff J:

Sounds amazing, Doug. Would've loved to have seen Pullen play live.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:28pm Jeff Golick:

Heh - x-post, Dean. I saw the Mingus Big Band there, too; mid-1990s.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:28pm Doug Schulkind:

@Jeff Golick
Nope. It was at Oberlin College.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:29pm Shaun:

Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:31pm Jeff Golick:

Welcome, @Shaun!
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:33pm Shaun:

Cheers jeff and all.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:33pm Jeff J:

Always thought the Art Ensemble's ECM albums were direly underrated.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:34pm Jeff Golick:

@Jeff J: it's like two great tastes that I didn't think went together
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:35pm Shaun:

If Doug could link to the archive of his show where he played all variants of Fables of Faubus...
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:36pm Doug Schulkind:

The Mingus Big Band had that looooong residency at Fez. For a while in the mid-'90s, I was in charge of organizing WFMU's ticket giveaways. Virtually every club and venue was generous and pleased to offer free tickets to WFMU for giveaways. Fez was great, too, but for the Mingus Big Band shows, I had to deal directly with Sue Mingus, and she was a beast. She demanded to know which shows/DJs were going to give away the tickets and she wanted to hear recordings of how the giveaways were announced. She wanted to be assured that the tickets would be given away on purely jazz shows. It was explained that WFMU didn't have genre-specific programming. I told her we couldn't promise that and she seemed ready to pull the plug. It was insane. I forget how it got resolved, but WFMU ended up giving away tickets to the Mingus BB shows for many years.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:38pm Jeff Golick:

I respect such protectors of legacies, but am also glad to steer clear of dealing with them.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:39pm Shaun:

Bass clarinet always makes me think of Mingus because of Solo Dancer.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:44pm Doug Schulkind:

I never did a show with multiple versions of Fables of Faubus, but I did blog about the song with two versions: blog.wfmu.org...
  Mon. 2/9/15 12:47pm Dean:

I bet Shaun's thinking of this: https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/47526
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:51pm northguineahills:

Full Force, Never even heard of that AEC album, cool!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:52pm Jeff Golick:

The WSQ quartet album we just played has this wonderful Roy DeCarava image on the cover: www.christies.com...
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 12:54pm Doug Schulkind:

Yikes! Forgot all about that. I give all credit to my executive producer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:55pm Jeff Golick:

Heya, @northguineahills!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:58pm listener james from westwood:

@Doug, I have visions of Sue listening to a tape of Pat Duncan hawking the Mingus tix during brief breaks from giant playlists of hardcore 45s.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 12:58pm listener james from westwood:

Also, I may have you to thank indirectly for winning Everything But the Girl tix from FMU sometime in that time frame.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:04pm doca:

Hey, guys. Dennis González always makes me happy.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:05pm Doug Schulkind:

Charles would have been the more likely Mingus to appreciate Pat Duncan's inner magic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:06pm Jeff Golick:

Same here, @doca. Same here.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:06pm Jeff J:

Just thinking there's never enough Dennis Gonzalez on this show...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:07pm northguineahills:

Not familiar w/ Frank Gordon, it's always a pleasure to hear jazz from the 80s from an artist I'm not familiar w//
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:07pm Jeff Golick:

This selection emerges fully formed from George Lewis's book on the AACM.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:13pm Shaun:

@Dean Make your way to the pay winduh. Cheers. And thanks for that blog link too, Doug.
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:14pm Dean:

First lottery I've ever won.

Braggers gotta brag: George Lewis used a paper I wrote for a course he taught at Columbia on Sonic Texts of the Black Atlantic.
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:15pm tr;sh:

Hays and hellos.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:15pm Jeff Golick:

Such a rare treat to hear Threadgill go off on a blues.

Whoa, @Dean! That is certainly something to hang your hat on.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:16pm Jeff J:

Hey Tr;sh - thanks for joining us!

Dean - Impressive about the paper! That Lewis class must've been amazing.
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:18pm Dean:

Alas, I didn't take his class. I wrote the paper for an unrelated seminar at another school. My guess is he taught the class while he was writing the AACM book.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:20pm Doug Schulkind:

I treasure Lewis' AACM book like the sacred text it is, but I found it so full of off-putting academic jargon. Kept pulling me out of my reverie.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:22pm northguineahills:

I always thought, Air (French band), should have sampled Air.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:22pm Jeff J:

Academic jargon, which mars many texts, seems proof of Burroughs dictum that language is a virus.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:24pm Jeff Golick:

I went to an AACM event in NYC that launched the book, w/ Lewis and others discussing the AACM. It was not terribly memorable (to me), and my main recollection is that they ran out of books and I couldn't buy one there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:25pm listener james from westwood:

After editing such text for so long, I've built up a sort of immunity. But one does come across some beauts in ac-prose now and again. And it does have a sad knack for ironing the joy out of a topic. (Reason #29384 why I opted out of grad school.)
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:29pm Dean:

There's jargon and there's jargon. Worst offender in my memory is Homi K. Bhabha. Judith Butler can run a close second. But I'm a sucker for some of Derrida's mush, and to this day I return to Paul de Man's prose, despite his infamy. Not academic, but threateningly nonsensical, is John Ashbery's poetry, which to my ear does what language is supposed to do. E.g.,

In all my years as a pedestrian
serving juice to guests, it never occurred to me
thoughtfully to imagine how a radish feels.

Those are the first three lines of "This Economy." I can't love writing more.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 2/9/15 1:30pm Uncle Michael:

I knew nothing of David Murray till he associated with the Grateful Dead. Sometimes that's just how it is.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:35pm Jeff J:

I love Ashbery, Dean. Happy to wade through his flirtations with the nonsensical since they're always shot through with wonder and surprise. Wish more academics tried to transform their jargon into something that alive.
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:37pm ?:

Just seen Whiplash - would you agree with me the film portrays the wrong end of jazz- I mean the boring, Lincoln Center, Wynton Marsalis view that somehow just must conform to a so called golden period standard set somewhere between 1940 -1960?
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:38pm ?:

that jazz must conform to a so called golden period standard set somewhere between 1940 -1960?
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:39pm Dean:

There was a Marsalis thread here last week: http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/59300
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:39pm Jeff Golick:

'afternoon, @Uncle Michael! Indeed. We can only know what we know.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:40pm Jeff Golick:

As for jargon, the worst language offenses seem to come out of business-speak these days, where layoffs = "right-sizing" etc. But my current situation in the publishing "space" might be coloring this view at the moment...
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:42pm Dean:

I'm going to change the subject. Thanks to ELO, I can't get "Can't Get It Out of My Head" out of my head.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 2/9/15 1:42pm Uncle Michael:

I haven't seen Whiplash but the criticism I've read of it describes it such that I'm put in mind of sports and military movies like "Rocky," and "An Officer and a Gentleman." The criticism describes the arts as being portrayed in a manner that seems to have nothing to do with art at all.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:43pm Doug Schulkind:

@Jeff Golick
I've been in that space since I got laid off in '09.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:44pm Jeff Golick:

@Doug: getting mighty crowded in here.
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:44pm tr;sh:

@JeffG When to pull out the ol' 'Handbook of Corporate Bullshit', or whatever it was called. And say, "Wait, forgive me, I have to look that up." Followed by an aggrandized, "Ohhhh!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:49pm Jeff Golick:

@tr;sh: Yup.

BTW, the front line of this group Synthesis is David Murray, Olu Dara, and Arthur Blythe.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:49pm Jeff J:

We talked about Whiplash on the show a few months back. It's ludicrous in how it portrays the jazz world and creative pursuits in general. The military movie comparison is apt - the teacher is straight out of Full Metal Jacket. There's a great review of it on the Talkhouse by the drummer from Oneida that's worth yr time.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:50pm Doug Schulkind:

I have not listened to this Synthesis record (or their other one) in at least 20 years. I am a failure.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:52pm Jeff Golick:

There's another one???????
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:53pm Doug Schulkind:

Gotta go run down to my basement.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:53pm doca:

I've enjoyed reading the discussion about academic jargon while studying in a library transcribing parts of books for my highly specialized doctoral thesis.
Thanks for the show, double Jeffs!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:54pm Jeff Golick:

@Doug: 20 years is a total exaggeration: wfmu.org...
  Mon. 2/9/15 1:54pm Dean:

@doca: "transcribing parts of books" -- Do you mean taking notes?

Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:57pm Jeff Golick:

or as Malcolm Gladwell would have it: writing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 1:58pm doca:

@Dean: Haha transcribing as in "Reading boring books and being too annoyed to really write down and trying to understand it, so I'm just copying things to read later". I saw it here and noticed that "transcribe" doesn't have the same sense as in Portuguese. ugh
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 2/9/15 1:59pm Uncle Michael:

I uses to copy parts of world book encyclopedias for social studies reports. like that?
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 1:59pm Doug Schulkind:

17 years. I'm still an ass.

The OTHER Synthesis record is called Six By Six (Chiaroscuro, 1977)

Same lineup as on Sentiments, but it Courtney Wynter (tenor sax, clarinet, bassoon) is in the David Murray chair.
  Mon. 2/9/15 2:00pm Dean:

Portuguese! It doesn't even have jargon. It has jargão.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 2:01pm doca:

Yes, I just love the tilde
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 2/9/15 2:01pm Uncle Michael:

Thanks for the show, Jeff(s)!
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 2:01pm Doug Schulkind:

Group co-leader Ken Hutson starts the liner notes with this:

"In the resurrection of the ritual dedicated to the perpetuation of the living force in nature and the living force in the valuable creations of humankind, each generation renews its faith in the power of music in a manner of style suitable to its time."
Avatar    Mon. 2/9/15 2:01pm duke:

Thanks Jeffs
  Mon. 2/9/15 2:03pm tr;sh:

Great listening all around.
Figured out some puzzle-y work stuff I've been stuck on, too.
Thanks all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 2:03pm listener james from westwood:

@UM: A guy in a high school writing class of mine copied 95% of Stephen King's "Lawnmower Man" and passed it off as his own. He got busted back to the Stone Age.
Jolly fun today, gents! Many thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 2:03pm doca:

Hahah just laughed loud on the Alan Parsons joke
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 2:03pm Shaun:

Shit hot. Cheers.
Avatar Mon. 2/9/15 2:05pm Jeff J:

Thanks all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 2/9/15 2:07pm Jeff Golick:

What Jeff J said! Thanks to @Uncle Michael, @duke, @doa, @Shaun, @Doug Schulkind; @Dean; @tr;sh; @listener james in westwood; @ngh...and all the ships at sea.
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