WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from October 22, 2023

Listener comments!
	8:57am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!!
	8:58am Jeff Golick: !Good morn, listner james from westwood!
	9:00am Stork: Let‘s go D-O!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: helllo! i confess this is the drummer tribute week i've most been looking forward to.
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	9:01am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Stork! hyde! Andrew in Toronto!
	9:01am Listener Gregory: Good morning, all. I’ll have my tatas over hard and my matos over easy, please.
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ hyde @9:00 hi there hyde.
	9:01am Jeff Golick: holland oats! Listener Gregory!
	🥁 9:01am tom tom the pipers son: good morning jeff, people....
	9:01am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @9:00 Three hours is not enough time!
	9:02am unpopularfred: top-o-the-mornin' to youse
	🥁 9:02am hyde: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:01 hiya AiT!
	9:02am Jeff Golick: tom tom the pipers son!
	9:02am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, AiT, and LJfW, good afternoon, the Storch, and time zone appropriate greetings holland oats and hyde.
	🥁 9:02am hyde: ↳ Sem @9:02 hey Sem
	9:02am Jeff Golick: Greets, unpopularfred! And Sem!
	🥁 9:03am WR: Hello Jeff and folks.
	9:03am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Sem @9:02 Good morning Sem.
	9:04am Andrew in Toronto: We missed you Jeff!
	🥁 9:04am Yvang: Hi Jeff G and listeners!
	9:04am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Yvang @9:04 Hi Yvang!
	🥁 9:05am Yvang: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:04 Hi Andrew!
	🥁 9:07am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra" Could "My brother, the wind" be a nickname for Andrew Cyrille?
	9:09am Jeff Golick: Good to see ya, WR! And Yvang!
	9:09am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:04 Aw thanks, Andrew!
	9:10am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:07 It could!
	🥁 9:10am DJ Peter: Welcome back, Jeff! I hope you and Kate are bouncing back? A quick search of the WFMU archives does not turn up any Jack DeJohnette tribute shows, FYI.
	9:10am Stork: ↳ Song: "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra" My Susie Ibarra show was long ago, and can she be featured too oft? Nah!
	🥁 9:12am hyde: i'm already writing a strongly worded letter to FMU management complaining about the repeat tribute shows
	9:12am WM: I'm sure you spent a lot of time preparing this show and certainly Andrew Cyrille deserves the attention, but wouldn't it be appropriate to dedicate this show to Carla Bley? Well, it would take a while to put together a show that would do justice to her extensive work.
	9:12am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:10 Hey, DJ Peter! And yes, thanks. All good here after a restful week in the country.
	9:13am Jeff Golick: ↳ Stork @9:10 Full agree and thanks.
	9:14am Stork: Love this Rekkid!
	🥁 9:14am DJ Peter: ↳ WM @9:12 I've got links to three recent Carla Bley shows (actually two recent and one future) on my show page: www.wfmu.org...
	9:14am Jeff Golick: ↳ WM @9:12 Hi, WM! Irene has got you covered, my friend - tune into her show tomorrow for the Carla Bley tribute you seek: wfmu.org... -- Monday, noon ET on the drummer stream.
	🥁 9:15am tom tom the pipers son: re:dickerson, new yorker According to a memo sent out by the drummer Andrew Cyrille, the vibraphonist Walt Dickerson, one of the most elusive of the great jazz musicians, died on May 15th, at the age of eighty. Dickerson made few recordings; after a spate of remarkable ones through which he earned renown in the early nineteen-sixties (including “To My Queen,” “Impressions of ‘A Patch of Blue,’” and “Unity,” which is reissued on the import “Vibes in Motion),” there was a decade-long silence, followed by a reappearance in the mid-nineteen-seventies. He made his last recording in 1982, and then, despite offers to perform publicly, remained resolutely out of the spotlight until his death. Dickerson is, simply, the most innovative vibes player after Lionel Hampton and Milt Jackson; his rapid-fire barrage of short, metallic notes, reminiscent of John Coltrane’s “sheets of sound” and Eric Dolphy’s frenetic flurries (Dickerson and Dolphy were close friends), extracted surprising harmonic riches from familiar tunes, and often did so with a puckish humor that belied the tenderness with which he could caress a melody. In the liner notes for “Impressions of ‘A Patch of Blue,’ Francis Davis, who has written for this magazine, described Dickerson’s unusual technique:
	🥁 9:16am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Playhouse March" by "Bill Barron" Was preparing for a segue straight from Dickerson to Cecil Taylor (had neck brace on) but it seems we're easing up to it... phew
	9:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:14 And see also DJ Peter's link above for more Bley!
	9:16am Alan R: G'mornin'..... buen día.... happy to have Cyrille in the morning, or afternoon, or evening. And he's also a really nice and friendly guy! (while keeping Carla in our minds and hearts, too)
	9:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:16 Yeah...waltz, march...THEN boom.
	🥁 9:17am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:16 That's a Carla Bley tribute right there: "waltz, march, then boom."
	🥁 9:21am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:17 waltz, march.... been hearing the brecht/ weill influence on carla bley. did she mention them much in interview, do you know?
	9:22am Jeff Golick: ↳ Alan R @9:16 Hola, Alan R!
	🥁 9:27am hyde: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:21 she was in that Charlie Haden Liberation Front band that did some Brecht material
	🥁 9:28am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:21 Had not occurred to me despite (duh) Bley appearing on Hal Willner's Kurt Weill album... a quick google search turns up a NYT article by JOhn S. Wilson Jan 9, 1983 mentions Weill as a source but I haven't yet found Bley citing Weill
	9:28am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	9:29am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ chresti @9:28 Morning crestikins!
	9:30am WM: Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely listen to Irene's show. Very long ago, I heard Carla Bley at the old Bottom Line in NYC. Come to think of it, the band included (as I remember) Andrew Cyrille on drums along with Don Cherry, Roswell Rudd and Terry Adams.
	🥁 9:31am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ hyde @9:27 yes i heard some of that, but think the influence is in some other things, even titling like 'social studies' and 'reactionary tango', i think reflect a brechtian point of view
	🥁 9:32am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:28 thx v much dj peter...
	🥁 9:32am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:31 I love that insight, thanks! I don't know much about Paul Haines, maybe he was in the mix there too?
	9:32am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:28 Hey, chresti! Good (early) morning to you.
	🥁 9:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:32 i don't know either...'escalator over the hill'
	9:35am chresti: Morning Andrew!
	🥁 9:36am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:28 good morning, still dark?
	9:37am doca: I think perhaps the ironic approach to music and to serious topics on Bley’s early compositions might be influenced by Brecht. The notion that you should’t trust that much the artist and then you always are a little step behind forcing youserlf to not necessarily let go because that would mean that you were tricked by the composer’s intent, as if she was trying to test your limits, that’s very Brecht and Bley
	🥁 9:38am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:34 reading the Wilson 1983 article now. Says in the 1960s she realized she was going the wrong way investigating African roots so she turned to her Swedish/European musical heritage (and church music), leading her to Weill around the time of the first Liberation Music Orchestra album. BTW Amy Beal's biography of Carla Bley is excellent! I should look there too...
	9:38am doca: By the way, been returning slowly to the WFMU listening schedule after a few years off. It’s good to see you all again!
	🥁 9:38am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:38 thanks dj peter
	9:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ doca @9:38 Likewise, doca! Great to see you here!
	🥁 9:39am DJ Peter: I thought you looked familiar but couldn't place you... welcome back doca!
	🥁 9:40am DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @9:38 correction: Weill investigation informed "genuine tong funeral" then "liberation music orhcestra"
	9:42am doca: Thanks, Jeff G and Peter. The shows have been great as they have always been. I loves the Susie Ibarra tribute show. She was probably the first jazz composer whose work I consciously dug into, after I learned from here on that stellar configuration of the David S. Ware quartet
	🥁 9:44am Doug Schulkind: Happy Andrew Cyrille Day, everyone!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Tales (8 Whisps) (Live)" by "Cecil Taylor" The band Cecil Taylor took to Newport in '65: alto saxophonist Jimmy Lyons, tenor saxophonist Bill Barron, bassist Henry Grimes, and drummer Andrew Cyrille.
	🥁 9:45am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:44 Bill Barron! I guess he didn't last long... certainly not as long as Lyons and Cyrille!
	9:46am chresti: Good morning Tom Tom! Yes , Just starting to see light..
	9:47am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @9:44 And to you, Doug!
	🥁 9:49am tom tom the pipers son: interesting drums here
	🥁 9:49am hyde: ↳ DJ Peter @9:45 he did put out records once in awhile under his name until the 2000's. Steeplechase put out the last couple live ones
	🥁 9:49am Doug Schulkind: I have a deep fondness for Bill Barron. Actually, he recorded into the mid-'80s. He wasn't as visible on the recording/touring scene due to his longtime academic gig at Wesleyan. (His wife typed my sisters honor's thesis in 1979.)
	🥁 9:50am DJ Peter: ↳ hyde @9:49 sorry i wasn't clear: i meant Barron didn't hang in Cecil's band for as long as Lyons... (I think? I don't really know)
	🥁 9:51am hyde: ↳ DJ Peter @9:50 ah. i don't really know either!
	🥁 9:51am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Tales (8 Whisps) (Live)" by "Cecil Taylor" I wonder how this music was received at Newport (not exactly a bastion of the avant garde) in 1965.
	9:52am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:51 It was a bold year at Newport -- I think Coltrane, Shepp, and other New Thing biggies where there that summer.
	🥁 9:53am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:52 A twist on what we usually mean by "taking it to the people."
	9:55am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:53 I suspect this group did not get, say, the 8pm slot. Imagining a 1pm set in front of a lot of empty chairs...
	🥁 9:56am hyde: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:51 pete seeger was wandering around with an axe?
	🥁 9:57am doctorjazz: Hi Jeff, Outies!
	🥁 9:58am tom tom the pipers son: in some ways must have been difficult drumming with taylor, so many notes, where to fit drums in, but otoh must have been freeing to just find your own parallel line to taylor and go...
	9:59am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @9:57 Hey, doctorjazz! How are you doing?
	🥁 9:59am duke: I saw Andrew Cyrille with Oliver Lake. Andrew produced more sound from a drum kit with less motion than any drummer I have seen.
	10:00am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:58 Cecil had tremendous taste in drummers - always played with drummers with a streong sense of what they were doing (it sounds to me). Cyrille was really very adept at playing with Taylor, to my ears.
	🥁 10:01am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @9:56 Not sure that cutting off the electricity would have much effect on that group!
	🥁 10:01am Doug Schulkind: Cyrille played live on my show, solo, the night Dizzy Gillespie died (Jan. 6, 1993).
	10:01am Jeff Golick: ↳ duke @9:59 Amazing, duke. Hiya!
	🥁 10:02am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:00 yes, true accompany-ment not support
	🥁 10:03am DJ Peter: ↳ Doug Schulkind @10:01 Is that streaming anywhere, Doug? Or at least archived?
	🥁 10:03am Brian in UK: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:00 Hello Jeff. Then Cecil could have enjoyed playing with Hamid Drake?
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:59 Doing OK, thanks, how YOU doin'?
	10:04am Jeff Golick: Brian in UK! Hello!
	10:05am Jeff Golick: Here, btw, is my Drummer brother David Mittelman's Andrew Cyrille show, from last December: wfmu.org...
	10:06am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @10:04 Feeling the last traces of bucolic country relaxation exiting my corporeal form, but otherwise good.
	🥁 10:10am Doug Schulkind: ↳ DJ Peter @10:03 DJ Peter, that was pre-internet, so no streaming or archive. I do have the show captured on a couple of C-90s, Of course I have no working cassette player. :-(
	🥁 10:12am Brian in UK: Jeff, do you still have contact with your former cohort, the other Jeff?
	🥁 10:12am Listener Gregory: VERY confused to hear music by someone who is alive. Trying to get used to the idea.
	🥁 10:14am doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:12 Whenever is see an extended set by an artist, I worry that they've passed on.
	10:19am Jeff Golick: ↳ Brian in UK @10:12 Yes, indeed! We are talking later this afternoon, in fact.
	🥁 10:20am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz~ ...Wakin' super slow this time - Cecil making a surprisingly ineffective alarm clock...
	10:23am Dean: Cyrille was supposed to drum for David Murray at a show at Catalina Grill, but was unable to appear. I can't remember who took his place.
	10:24am Jeff Golick: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:20 That IS surprising, Revolution Rabbit Nov63, though perhaps speaks to how much CT you've heard.
	10:25am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @10:23 Hi, Dean!
	🥁 10:25am DJ Peter: ↳ Doug Schulkind @10:10 Here at the DJP studies somewhere in Delaware, we have a Sony variable bias cassette player connected to the digital work station. (Would be happy to digitize, I'm saying. Although you can probably find someone in Pittsburgh too.)
	10:28am Dean: One of Cyrille's more curious appearances: with Miya Masaoka and Reggie Workman doing Monk tunes.
	🥁 10:29am Listener Gregory: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:20 I hope this is good music to balance a checkbook by.
	🥁 10:32am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @10:28 I have that CD! Masaoka sounds great in that context: it's hard to swing on the koto...
	🥁 10:34am hyde: trying to cook three things at once to this soundtrack and it's a little stressful! (great, tho)
	10:35am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @10:34 I am trying to toast a bagel to this. It's going pretty well. Three things is beyond my abilities.
	🥁 10:36am Brian in UK: Three cheers for the bagel!
	🥁 10:36am hyde: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:35 smart
	🥁 10:37am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:35 With this music, I hope it's an everything bagel.
	10:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:37 Hahahah YES.
	🥁 10:41am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Call and Response" by "Andrew Cyrille & Milford G... Is that cover... one child drumming on the other child?
	🥁 10:42am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @10:41 When I was young, I used to tell my mother that I was just dialoguing with my brother using the medium of drumming. She didn't buy it.
	🥁 10:44am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:42 Moms are skeptical that way.
	🥁 10:44am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Haitian Heritage (Pt. 1): Voices of the Lineage" ... Unexpected and awesome segue, Jeff!
	🥁 10:44am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @10:44 She had a very Eurocentric notion of communication.
	🥁 10:46am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:44 "use your words" and all that! maybe we're communicating with the lizard brain, not the pre-frontal cortext!
	10:47am Dean: But, "The Little Drummer Boy"!
	🥁 10:48am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Call and Response" by "Andrew Cyrille & Milford G... I'm still on this album cover: Can I get this font? What is the meaning of the \ reverse slash? Can Listener Gregory's brother explain this to us?
	🥁 10:48am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @10:47 Yeah I don't think the mom was thrilled that night, either.
	🥁 10:49am DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @10:48 You're gonna drum? Do you know what I've been doing for the last 8 hours?
	🥁 10:50am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @10:48 My brother has undergone years of therapy to forget about those episodes, so I wouldn't ask him about it.
	10:51am Dean: I found the font striking, too. Almost out of place, but attractive.
	10:52am Dean: Credits report that Ishangi Razak Institute of African Sciences provided the cover photo.
	🥁 10:56am chresti: ↳ DJ Peter @10:48 The font is almost country western style, or bbq sauce style?
	🥁 10:57am DJ Peter: ↳ chresti @10:56 YES! That's exactly it, thank you!
	🥁 10:58am Listener Gregory: ↳ chresti @10:56 Mmmm, is it lunch time yet?
	🥁 10:58am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @10:52 Intriguing: Google turns up "Ishangi Razak" dance troupe...
	🥁 10:59am chresti: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:58 Still in Pacific Breakfast Time here
	🥁 11:06am Doug Schulkind: Not exactly Cyrille related, but... I highly recommend the podcast The Jazz Loft Radio Series, if you haven't yet listened. I've only recently dug in and I can't imagine why I hadn't jumped in before. My favorite vignette: While in rehearsal for Monk's Town Hall concert, French hornist Robert Northern (Brother Ah) is having trouble getting the rhythm of a particular passage in "Little Rootie Tootie." To explain it, Monk dances the rhythm and Northern watches his feet to learn it. Amazing stuff. You can access the audio online here: www.wnycstudios.org...
	🥁 11:08am doctorjazz: On a totally unrelated topic-went to see Fred Hersch at the Vanguard this past Monday (not all that out, though his take on time, and displacement thereof, it pretty interesting). He had Miguel Zenon on sax, boy, he has the most unusual tone, really dug it (at times thought I was hearing a violin)! Have one CD of his (which probably got filed with a quick listen), have to check it out again.
	🥁 11:10am WR: Taking pause in shopping to mention two Cyrille related items that last I looked were on utoob. A documentary on Mal Waldron and a Vision Fest performance or Cyrille & Milford Graves when Graves was showing affects of the condition that killed him. In both along with Cyrille's percussive skills we can see his warm and deep humanity and fellowship with other musicians.
	11:13am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:06 Now that might get me finally listening to podcasts. Thanks!
	🥁 11:13am doctorjazz: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:06 I have to check that out-out of WNYC, Sara Fishko, who used to periodically have little Fishko File segments on the news program highlighting some cultural area or other. (Don't think I've heard her on the air in a long time)
	11:13am Dean: Heading to Piedmont Piano Co. in Oakland this evening to hear Alan Broadbent with Harvie S. Been a while!
	11:14am Jeff Golick: ↳ WR @11:10 Thanks, WR! I watched that Mal Waldron doc about a week ago. And you are absolutely right about Cyrille's humanity coming through.
	11:15am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @11:13 Oh nice, Dean. Will look forward to your report.
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @11:13 He was in NY 1-2 weeks ago, played a Monday night date (which I just saw in the listings Monday morning and was sad I missed it-his last gig at Mezzrow's, at least the last one I was at, was terriffic!)
	🥁 11:18am Doug Schulkind: ↳ doctorjazz @11:13 I'm not crazy about Fishko's narration of the Jazz Loft series. As producer, her work is perfection, but her hosting voice is almost comically uptight. Doesn't fit the material.
	11:19am Dean: I was wondering what brought him west. He used to live in Santa Monica, and so he played around these parts pretty regularly.
	🥁 11:20am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "The Loop" by "Anthony Braxton & Andrew Cyrille" Cyrille has quite a regular, even melodic, backup for Braxton here.
	🥁 11:21am DJ Peter: I just watched the PBS "American Masters" on Max Roach: The Drum Also Waltzes. Doesn't shy away from but also doesn't fully engage with his violence/misogyny. OTOH has some great footage of teaching kids to sing along to "Mop Mop." Some great footage (Abbey Lincoln & Max holding court in the 60s; M'Boom in rehearsal and performance). Sonia Sanchez makes a couple appearances.
	11:22am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @11:20 This is a Cyrille tune. He is very melodic, agreed.
	11:27am bobobob plasticland Milwaukee: Great Show Jeff. .I have alot of the stuff you play on vinyl..and actually seen alot of these artists live ... mostly in the 70s in Chicago
	🥁 11:29am doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @11:21 Sounds interesting, have to check it out (I saw Roach once, but past when he should have still been playing. Was still cool to catch him)
	11:30am Jeff Golick: ↳ bobobob plasticland Milwaukee @11:27 Oh that's excellent, bobobob! And thanks!
	11:32am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:30 These themed shows are a wonderful idea, Jaff.
	🥁 11:33am doctorjazz: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:18 You're probably right about her delivery, but when she would come on during a very straight-laced, just the News/Politics WNYC day, she'd seem like a breath of fresh air.
	11:34am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @11:32 Glad to hear it and thanks very much, Andrew.
	🥁 11:39am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "ZC" by "Trio 3" The blues will abide.
	🥁 11:40am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "ZC" by "Trio 3" Talk about melodic drums, boy was his solo tied to the theme/melody here!
	🥁 11:40am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "ZC" by "Trio 3" Hate to be that Rawkist person all the time - but had me thinking of 'Eight Miles High' (famously influenced by listening to Shankar & Trane).
	🥁 11:40am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Leaving East of Java" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" the cymbal work here is amazing: really great on headphones!
	🥁 11:41am doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @11:40 Interesting, I hardly hear it over my speakers...
	11:42am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @11:40 Playing this one due to your hipping me to it.
	🥁 11:42am DJ Peter: I'm into cymbalism
	🥁 11:42am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Leaving East of Java" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" Hear him when the rest of the band drops out...
	🥁 11:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah always gratifying when a Drummer recognizes a TrapSet as not only a punctuator but a tone generator.
	11:44am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @11:42 There it is.
	11:44am Jeff Golick: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:44 Cyrille's cymbal work in general is something I really love. Cyrille...cymbal...coincidence?
	🥁 11:45am Listener Gregory: Hmm, my local hospice is hosting a Death Café this Wednesday. They say, "At a Death Cafe, people, often strangers, gather to eat snacks, drink tea, and discuss death." There's snacks!!
	11:46am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:45 Huh. While driving about the Catskills this past week, the billboard we saw the most of was one advertising hospice care.
	🥁 11:46am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:45 "There's snacks!!" LOL
	🥁 11:47am hyde: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:45 the snacks are laced with henbane
	11:48am Jeff Golick: This Cyrille quartet -- Ben Street, Bill Frisell, Richard Teitelbaum & AC -- is low-key one of the great current groups going.
	🥁 11:48am DJ Peter: ↳ hyde @11:47 more likely in the tea. But yeah, be careful of the snacks too
	🥁 11:49am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Kaddish" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" This album cover is like a throwback to late 1980s ECM
	11:49am Dean: There's a not-half-bad brewery in Seattle occupying a former funeral home, The Pine Box. Good place for a Death Café. I live next to a funeral home, the one where Glenn Spearman's memorial was held. Quiet neighbors most of the time.
	🥁 11:49am DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @11:49 "annual report to the stockholders" vibe
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @11:47 If they're free, you really can't argue.
	🥁 11:50am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Kaddish" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" Expect something called Kaddish to be on the Tzadik label...
	11:50am Dean: ...or the City Lights imprint.
	🥁 11:50am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...come to the Dark Side - we has cookies...
	🥁 11:51am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:48 Before their first album came out, who predicted that Cyrille would form a quartet with Frisell and record it on ECM? I for one did not.
	11:51am bobobob Plasticland: john Lindberg is the only one I haven't heard of before
	11:51am Dean: Lindberg: NY String Trio
	11:51am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:51 Yes, unexpected!
	11:51am Andrew in Toronto: Great show! Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:52am DJ Peter: ↳ bobobob Plasticland @11:51 Played with Braxton before Dresser. Lately on some Wadada Leo Smith records too. AACM?
	🥁 11:52am hyde: ↳ Dean @11:51 love those guys
	11:53am bobob: Frisell did a free show in Piedmont Park in Atlanta...of course I went
	🥁 11:54am doctorjazz: From Wikipedia: After moving to New York, he played with the Human Arts Ensemble alongside Joseph Bowie and Bobo Shaw.[2] In 1977, with James Emery and Billy Bang, Lindberg co-founded the String Trio of New York.[3] In 1980 he formed a trio with Jimmy Lyons and Sunny Murray. From 1980 to 1983 he lived in Paris, playing there solo and with Murray and John Tchicai.[1] He has recorded extensively as a leader. John Lindberg studied bass with the bassist from the Battle Creek, Michigan symphony orchestra, bassist David Izenzon and jazz musician Roscoe Mitchell.
	🥁 11:55am doctorjazz: Great show, can't believe it went so quickly, thanks Jeff!
	11:55am Sem: Jazzbos delight this morning. Thank you, Jeff. See you and all next time round the schedule.
	11:57am Dean: Worth mentioning, too, that the Between the Lines label is (was?) a Franz Koglmann venture.
	🥁 11:57am hyde: what, no Muhal Richard Abrams Black Saint records, haha? just kidding, there's so much stuff. great show. thank you!
	11:58am chresti: Hospice is trending..
	11:58am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:59am Yvang: Thanks Jeff! Thank you Andrew Cyrille! I enjoyed the show!
	🥁 11:59am Listener Gregory: Very enjoyable show, Jeff. Thanks a lot.
	🥁 12:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	🥁 12:00pm Listener Gregory: See you all at the Death Café!
	12:01pm Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @11:57 It was in the pile! Impossible to really capture it all.
	12:02pm Jeff Golick: Thanks to everyone who commented, and everyone who didn't commemt! See you next time!
	🥁 12:12pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks jeff, had to go back to sleep, my loss ... to the archives
	🥁 12:30pm WR: Thank you! Jeff!

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October 22, 2023: Andrew Cyrille!

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Andrew Cyrille

Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:25 (Pop-up)
Walt Dickerson	Death and Taxes "Death and Taxes" by "Walt Dickerson"	This Is Walt Dickerson!	Prestige	1961		0:06:56 (Pop-up)
Bill Barron	Playhouse March "Playhouse March" by "Bill Barron"	Hot Line - The Tenor of Bill Barron	Savoy	1962		0:12:30 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Tales (8 Whisps) "Tales (8 Whisps)" by "Cecil Taylor"	Unit Structures	Blue Note	1966		0:18:51 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	With (Exit) (Alternate Take)	Conquistador!	Blue Note	1966		0:25:07 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Tales (8 Whisps) (Live)	Newport 1965	[boot]	1965		0:42:27 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Student Studies Part 2	Student Studies	BYG Records	1966/1973	aka Great Paris Concert	0:58:16 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					1:20:49 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	Bulu Akisakila Kutala, Part 2	Akisakila - Cecil Taylor Unit In Japan	Trio Records	1973		1:17:50 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille & Milford Graves	Call and Response	Dialogue of the Drums	IPS	1974		1:38:20 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille & Maono	Haitian Heritage (Pt. 1): Voices of the Lineage	Celebration	IPS	1975		1:43:52 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille & Vladimir Tarasov	One Up, One Down	Galaxies	Music & Arts	1990		1:55:45 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Wolfgang Dauner Quintet	My Man's Gone Now					1:57:59 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille Trio	A Tribute to Bu (Take 2)	Good to Go, with a Tribute to Bu	Soul Note	1997		2:06:23 (Pop-up)
John Lindberg Ensemble	Good to Go	A Tree Frog Tonality	Between the Lines	2000		2:12:06 (Pop-up)
Anthony Braxton & Andrew Cyrille	The Loop	Duo Palindrome 2002. Vol. 1	Intakt Records	2002		2:16:46 (Pop-up)
Søren Kjærgaard / Ben Street / Andrew Cyrille	Cyrillic Circle (In)	Syvmileskridt	ILK Music	2013		2:22:19 (Pop-up)
Trio 3	ZC "ZC" by "Trio 3"	Wha's Nine (Live at The Sunset)	Marge	2007		2:29:19 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille Quartet	Leaving East of Java	The News	ECM	2021		2:39:39 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille Quartet	Kaddish "Kaddish" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet"	The Declaration of Musical Independence	ECM	2016		2:48:20 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille, William Parker & Enrico Rava	My Funny Valentine	2 Blues for Cecil	TUM Records	2021		2:53:30 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:56:21 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	8:57am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!!
	8:58am Jeff Golick: !Good morn, listner james from westwood!
	9:00am Stork: Let‘s go D-O!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: helllo! i confess this is the drummer tribute week i've most been looking forward to.
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	9:01am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Stork! hyde! Andrew in Toronto!
	9:01am Listener Gregory: Good morning, all. I’ll have my tatas over hard and my matos over easy, please.
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ hyde @9:00 hi there hyde.
	9:01am Jeff Golick: holland oats! Listener Gregory!
	🥁 9:01am tom tom the pipers son: good morning jeff, people....
	9:01am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @9:00 Three hours is not enough time!
	9:02am unpopularfred: top-o-the-mornin' to youse
	🥁 9:02am hyde: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:01 hiya AiT!
	9:02am Jeff Golick: tom tom the pipers son!
	9:02am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, AiT, and LJfW, good afternoon, the Storch, and time zone appropriate greetings holland oats and hyde.
	🥁 9:02am hyde: ↳ Sem @9:02 hey Sem
	9:02am Jeff Golick: Greets, unpopularfred! And Sem!
	🥁 9:03am WR: Hello Jeff and folks.
	9:03am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Sem @9:02 Good morning Sem.
	9:04am Andrew in Toronto: We missed you Jeff!
	🥁 9:04am Yvang: Hi Jeff G and listeners!
	9:04am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Yvang @9:04 Hi Yvang!
	🥁 9:05am Yvang: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:04 Hi Andrew!
	🥁 9:07am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra" Could "My brother, the wind" be a nickname for Andrew Cyrille?
	9:09am Jeff Golick: Good to see ya, WR! And Yvang!
	9:09am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:04 Aw thanks, Andrew!
	9:10am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:07 It could!
	🥁 9:10am DJ Peter: Welcome back, Jeff! I hope you and Kate are bouncing back? A quick search of the WFMU archives does not turn up any Jack DeJohnette tribute shows, FYI.
	9:10am Stork: ↳ Song: "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra" My Susie Ibarra show was long ago, and can she be featured too oft? Nah!
	🥁 9:12am hyde: i'm already writing a strongly worded letter to FMU management complaining about the repeat tribute shows
	9:12am WM: I'm sure you spent a lot of time preparing this show and certainly Andrew Cyrille deserves the attention, but wouldn't it be appropriate to dedicate this show to Carla Bley? Well, it would take a while to put together a show that would do justice to her extensive work.
	9:12am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:10 Hey, DJ Peter! And yes, thanks. All good here after a restful week in the country.
	9:13am Jeff Golick: ↳ Stork @9:10 Full agree and thanks.
	9:14am Stork: Love this Rekkid!
	🥁 9:14am DJ Peter: ↳ WM @9:12 I've got links to three recent Carla Bley shows (actually two recent and one future) on my show page: www.wfmu.org...
	9:14am Jeff Golick: ↳ WM @9:12 Hi, WM! Irene has got you covered, my friend - tune into her show tomorrow for the Carla Bley tribute you seek: wfmu.org... -- Monday, noon ET on the drummer stream.
	🥁 9:15am tom tom the pipers son: re:dickerson, new yorker According to a memo sent out by the drummer Andrew Cyrille, the vibraphonist Walt Dickerson, one of the most elusive of the great jazz musicians, died on May 15th, at the age of eighty. Dickerson made few recordings; after a spate of remarkable ones through which he earned renown in the early nineteen-sixties (including “To My Queen,” “Impressions of ‘A Patch of Blue,’” and “Unity,” which is reissued on the import “Vibes in Motion),” there was a decade-long silence, followed by a reappearance in the mid-nineteen-seventies. He made his last recording in 1982, and then, despite offers to perform publicly, remained resolutely out of the spotlight until his death. Dickerson is, simply, the most innovative vibes player after Lionel Hampton and Milt Jackson; his rapid-fire barrage of short, metallic notes, reminiscent of John Coltrane’s “sheets of sound” and Eric Dolphy’s frenetic flurries (Dickerson and Dolphy were close friends), extracted surprising harmonic riches from familiar tunes, and often did so with a puckish humor that belied the tenderness with which he could caress a melody. In the liner notes for “Impressions of ‘A Patch of Blue,’ Francis Davis, who has written for this magazine, described Dickerson’s unusual technique:
	🥁 9:16am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Playhouse March" by "Bill Barron" Was preparing for a segue straight from Dickerson to Cecil Taylor (had neck brace on) but it seems we're easing up to it... phew
	9:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:14 And see also DJ Peter's link above for more Bley!
	9:16am Alan R: G'mornin'..... buen día.... happy to have Cyrille in the morning, or afternoon, or evening. And he's also a really nice and friendly guy! (while keeping Carla in our minds and hearts, too)
	9:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:16 Yeah...waltz, march...THEN boom.
	🥁 9:17am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:16 That's a Carla Bley tribute right there: "waltz, march, then boom."
	🥁 9:21am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:17 waltz, march.... been hearing the brecht/ weill influence on carla bley. did she mention them much in interview, do you know?
	9:22am Jeff Golick: ↳ Alan R @9:16 Hola, Alan R!
	🥁 9:27am hyde: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:21 she was in that Charlie Haden Liberation Front band that did some Brecht material
	🥁 9:28am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:21 Had not occurred to me despite (duh) Bley appearing on Hal Willner's Kurt Weill album... a quick google search turns up a NYT article by JOhn S. Wilson Jan 9, 1983 mentions Weill as a source but I haven't yet found Bley citing Weill
	9:28am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	9:29am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ chresti @9:28 Morning crestikins!
	9:30am WM: Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely listen to Irene's show. Very long ago, I heard Carla Bley at the old Bottom Line in NYC. Come to think of it, the band included (as I remember) Andrew Cyrille on drums along with Don Cherry, Roswell Rudd and Terry Adams.
	🥁 9:31am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ hyde @9:27 yes i heard some of that, but think the influence is in some other things, even titling like 'social studies' and 'reactionary tango', i think reflect a brechtian point of view
	🥁 9:32am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:28 thx v much dj peter...
	🥁 9:32am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:31 I love that insight, thanks! I don't know much about Paul Haines, maybe he was in the mix there too?
	9:32am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:28 Hey, chresti! Good (early) morning to you.
	🥁 9:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:32 i don't know either...'escalator over the hill'
	9:35am chresti: Morning Andrew!
	🥁 9:36am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:28 good morning, still dark?
	9:37am doca: I think perhaps the ironic approach to music and to serious topics on Bley’s early compositions might be influenced by Brecht. The notion that you should’t trust that much the artist and then you always are a little step behind forcing youserlf to not necessarily let go because that would mean that you were tricked by the composer’s intent, as if she was trying to test your limits, that’s very Brecht and Bley
	🥁 9:38am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:34 reading the Wilson 1983 article now. Says in the 1960s she realized she was going the wrong way investigating African roots so she turned to her Swedish/European musical heritage (and church music), leading her to Weill around the time of the first Liberation Music Orchestra album. BTW Amy Beal's biography of Carla Bley is excellent! I should look there too...
	9:38am doca: By the way, been returning slowly to the WFMU listening schedule after a few years off. It’s good to see you all again!
	🥁 9:38am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:38 thanks dj peter
	9:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ doca @9:38 Likewise, doca! Great to see you here!
	🥁 9:39am DJ Peter: I thought you looked familiar but couldn't place you... welcome back doca!
	🥁 9:40am DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @9:38 correction: Weill investigation informed "genuine tong funeral" then "liberation music orhcestra"
	9:42am doca: Thanks, Jeff G and Peter. The shows have been great as they have always been. I loves the Susie Ibarra tribute show. She was probably the first jazz composer whose work I consciously dug into, after I learned from here on that stellar configuration of the David S. Ware quartet
	🥁 9:44am Doug Schulkind: Happy Andrew Cyrille Day, everyone!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Tales (8 Whisps) (Live)" by "Cecil Taylor" The band Cecil Taylor took to Newport in '65: alto saxophonist Jimmy Lyons, tenor saxophonist Bill Barron, bassist Henry Grimes, and drummer Andrew Cyrille.
	🥁 9:45am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:44 Bill Barron! I guess he didn't last long... certainly not as long as Lyons and Cyrille!
	9:46am chresti: Good morning Tom Tom! Yes , Just starting to see light..
	9:47am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @9:44 And to you, Doug!
	🥁 9:49am tom tom the pipers son: interesting drums here
	🥁 9:49am hyde: ↳ DJ Peter @9:45 he did put out records once in awhile under his name until the 2000's. Steeplechase put out the last couple live ones
	🥁 9:49am Doug Schulkind: I have a deep fondness for Bill Barron. Actually, he recorded into the mid-'80s. He wasn't as visible on the recording/touring scene due to his longtime academic gig at Wesleyan. (His wife typed my sisters honor's thesis in 1979.)
	🥁 9:50am DJ Peter: ↳ hyde @9:49 sorry i wasn't clear: i meant Barron didn't hang in Cecil's band for as long as Lyons... (I think? I don't really know)
	🥁 9:51am hyde: ↳ DJ Peter @9:50 ah. i don't really know either!
	🥁 9:51am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Tales (8 Whisps) (Live)" by "Cecil Taylor" I wonder how this music was received at Newport (not exactly a bastion of the avant garde) in 1965.
	9:52am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:51 It was a bold year at Newport -- I think Coltrane, Shepp, and other New Thing biggies where there that summer.
	🥁 9:53am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:52 A twist on what we usually mean by "taking it to the people."
	9:55am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:53 I suspect this group did not get, say, the 8pm slot. Imagining a 1pm set in front of a lot of empty chairs...
	🥁 9:56am hyde: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:51 pete seeger was wandering around with an axe?
	🥁 9:57am doctorjazz: Hi Jeff, Outies!
	🥁 9:58am tom tom the pipers son: in some ways must have been difficult drumming with taylor, so many notes, where to fit drums in, but otoh must have been freeing to just find your own parallel line to taylor and go...
	9:59am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @9:57 Hey, doctorjazz! How are you doing?
	🥁 9:59am duke: I saw Andrew Cyrille with Oliver Lake. Andrew produced more sound from a drum kit with less motion than any drummer I have seen.
	10:00am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:58 Cecil had tremendous taste in drummers - always played with drummers with a streong sense of what they were doing (it sounds to me). Cyrille was really very adept at playing with Taylor, to my ears.
	🥁 10:01am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @9:56 Not sure that cutting off the electricity would have much effect on that group!
	🥁 10:01am Doug Schulkind: Cyrille played live on my show, solo, the night Dizzy Gillespie died (Jan. 6, 1993).
	10:01am Jeff Golick: ↳ duke @9:59 Amazing, duke. Hiya!
	🥁 10:02am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:00 yes, true accompany-ment not support
	🥁 10:03am DJ Peter: ↳ Doug Schulkind @10:01 Is that streaming anywhere, Doug? Or at least archived?
	🥁 10:03am Brian in UK: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:00 Hello Jeff. Then Cecil could have enjoyed playing with Hamid Drake?
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:59 Doing OK, thanks, how YOU doin'?
	10:04am Jeff Golick: Brian in UK! Hello!
	10:05am Jeff Golick: Here, btw, is my Drummer brother David Mittelman's Andrew Cyrille show, from last December: wfmu.org...
	10:06am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @10:04 Feeling the last traces of bucolic country relaxation exiting my corporeal form, but otherwise good.
	🥁 10:10am Doug Schulkind: ↳ DJ Peter @10:03 DJ Peter, that was pre-internet, so no streaming or archive. I do have the show captured on a couple of C-90s, Of course I have no working cassette player. :-(
	🥁 10:12am Brian in UK: Jeff, do you still have contact with your former cohort, the other Jeff?
	🥁 10:12am Listener Gregory: VERY confused to hear music by someone who is alive. Trying to get used to the idea.
	🥁 10:14am doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:12 Whenever is see an extended set by an artist, I worry that they've passed on.
	10:19am Jeff Golick: ↳ Brian in UK @10:12 Yes, indeed! We are talking later this afternoon, in fact.
	🥁 10:20am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz~ ...Wakin' super slow this time - Cecil making a surprisingly ineffective alarm clock...
	10:23am Dean: Cyrille was supposed to drum for David Murray at a show at Catalina Grill, but was unable to appear. I can't remember who took his place.
	10:24am Jeff Golick: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:20 That IS surprising, Revolution Rabbit Nov63, though perhaps speaks to how much CT you've heard.
	10:25am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @10:23 Hi, Dean!
	🥁 10:25am DJ Peter: ↳ Doug Schulkind @10:10 Here at the DJP studies somewhere in Delaware, we have a Sony variable bias cassette player connected to the digital work station. (Would be happy to digitize, I'm saying. Although you can probably find someone in Pittsburgh too.)
	10:28am Dean: One of Cyrille's more curious appearances: with Miya Masaoka and Reggie Workman doing Monk tunes.
	🥁 10:29am Listener Gregory: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:20 I hope this is good music to balance a checkbook by.
	🥁 10:32am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @10:28 I have that CD! Masaoka sounds great in that context: it's hard to swing on the koto...
	🥁 10:34am hyde: trying to cook three things at once to this soundtrack and it's a little stressful! (great, tho)
	10:35am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @10:34 I am trying to toast a bagel to this. It's going pretty well. Three things is beyond my abilities.
	🥁 10:36am Brian in UK: Three cheers for the bagel!
	🥁 10:36am hyde: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:35 smart
	🥁 10:37am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:35 With this music, I hope it's an everything bagel.
	10:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:37 Hahahah YES.
	🥁 10:41am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Call and Response" by "Andrew Cyrille & Milford G... Is that cover... one child drumming on the other child?
	🥁 10:42am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @10:41 When I was young, I used to tell my mother that I was just dialoguing with my brother using the medium of drumming. She didn't buy it.
	🥁 10:44am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:42 Moms are skeptical that way.
	🥁 10:44am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Haitian Heritage (Pt. 1): Voices of the Lineage" ... Unexpected and awesome segue, Jeff!
	🥁 10:44am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @10:44 She had a very Eurocentric notion of communication.
	🥁 10:46am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:44 "use your words" and all that! maybe we're communicating with the lizard brain, not the pre-frontal cortext!
	10:47am Dean: But, "The Little Drummer Boy"!
	🥁 10:48am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Call and Response" by "Andrew Cyrille & Milford G... I'm still on this album cover: Can I get this font? What is the meaning of the \ reverse slash? Can Listener Gregory's brother explain this to us?
	🥁 10:48am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @10:47 Yeah I don't think the mom was thrilled that night, either.
	🥁 10:49am DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @10:48 You're gonna drum? Do you know what I've been doing for the last 8 hours?
	🥁 10:50am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @10:48 My brother has undergone years of therapy to forget about those episodes, so I wouldn't ask him about it.
	10:51am Dean: I found the font striking, too. Almost out of place, but attractive.
	10:52am Dean: Credits report that Ishangi Razak Institute of African Sciences provided the cover photo.
	🥁 10:56am chresti: ↳ DJ Peter @10:48 The font is almost country western style, or bbq sauce style?
	🥁 10:57am DJ Peter: ↳ chresti @10:56 YES! That's exactly it, thank you!
	🥁 10:58am Listener Gregory: ↳ chresti @10:56 Mmmm, is it lunch time yet?
	🥁 10:58am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @10:52 Intriguing: Google turns up "Ishangi Razak" dance troupe...
	🥁 10:59am chresti: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:58 Still in Pacific Breakfast Time here
	🥁 11:06am Doug Schulkind: Not exactly Cyrille related, but... I highly recommend the podcast The Jazz Loft Radio Series, if you haven't yet listened. I've only recently dug in and I can't imagine why I hadn't jumped in before. My favorite vignette: While in rehearsal for Monk's Town Hall concert, French hornist Robert Northern (Brother Ah) is having trouble getting the rhythm of a particular passage in "Little Rootie Tootie." To explain it, Monk dances the rhythm and Northern watches his feet to learn it. Amazing stuff. You can access the audio online here: www.wnycstudios.org...
	🥁 11:08am doctorjazz: On a totally unrelated topic-went to see Fred Hersch at the Vanguard this past Monday (not all that out, though his take on time, and displacement thereof, it pretty interesting). He had Miguel Zenon on sax, boy, he has the most unusual tone, really dug it (at times thought I was hearing a violin)! Have one CD of his (which probably got filed with a quick listen), have to check it out again.
	🥁 11:10am WR: Taking pause in shopping to mention two Cyrille related items that last I looked were on utoob. A documentary on Mal Waldron and a Vision Fest performance or Cyrille & Milford Graves when Graves was showing affects of the condition that killed him. In both along with Cyrille's percussive skills we can see his warm and deep humanity and fellowship with other musicians.
	11:13am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:06 Now that might get me finally listening to podcasts. Thanks!
	🥁 11:13am doctorjazz: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:06 I have to check that out-out of WNYC, Sara Fishko, who used to periodically have little Fishko File segments on the news program highlighting some cultural area or other. (Don't think I've heard her on the air in a long time)
	11:13am Dean: Heading to Piedmont Piano Co. in Oakland this evening to hear Alan Broadbent with Harvie S. Been a while!
	11:14am Jeff Golick: ↳ WR @11:10 Thanks, WR! I watched that Mal Waldron doc about a week ago. And you are absolutely right about Cyrille's humanity coming through.
	11:15am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @11:13 Oh nice, Dean. Will look forward to your report.
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @11:13 He was in NY 1-2 weeks ago, played a Monday night date (which I just saw in the listings Monday morning and was sad I missed it-his last gig at Mezzrow's, at least the last one I was at, was terriffic!)
	🥁 11:18am Doug Schulkind: ↳ doctorjazz @11:13 I'm not crazy about Fishko's narration of the Jazz Loft series. As producer, her work is perfection, but her hosting voice is almost comically uptight. Doesn't fit the material.
	11:19am Dean: I was wondering what brought him west. He used to live in Santa Monica, and so he played around these parts pretty regularly.
	🥁 11:20am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "The Loop" by "Anthony Braxton & Andrew Cyrille" Cyrille has quite a regular, even melodic, backup for Braxton here.
	🥁 11:21am DJ Peter: I just watched the PBS "American Masters" on Max Roach: The Drum Also Waltzes. Doesn't shy away from but also doesn't fully engage with his violence/misogyny. OTOH has some great footage of teaching kids to sing along to "Mop Mop." Some great footage (Abbey Lincoln & Max holding court in the 60s; M'Boom in rehearsal and performance). Sonia Sanchez makes a couple appearances.
	11:22am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @11:20 This is a Cyrille tune. He is very melodic, agreed.
	11:27am bobobob plasticland Milwaukee: Great Show Jeff. .I have alot of the stuff you play on vinyl..and actually seen alot of these artists live ... mostly in the 70s in Chicago
	🥁 11:29am doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @11:21 Sounds interesting, have to check it out (I saw Roach once, but past when he should have still been playing. Was still cool to catch him)
	11:30am Jeff Golick: ↳ bobobob plasticland Milwaukee @11:27 Oh that's excellent, bobobob! And thanks!
	11:32am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:30 These themed shows are a wonderful idea, Jaff.
	🥁 11:33am doctorjazz: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:18 You're probably right about her delivery, but when she would come on during a very straight-laced, just the News/Politics WNYC day, she'd seem like a breath of fresh air.
	11:34am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @11:32 Glad to hear it and thanks very much, Andrew.
	🥁 11:39am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "ZC" by "Trio 3" The blues will abide.
	🥁 11:40am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "ZC" by "Trio 3" Talk about melodic drums, boy was his solo tied to the theme/melody here!
	🥁 11:40am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "ZC" by "Trio 3" Hate to be that Rawkist person all the time - but had me thinking of 'Eight Miles High' (famously influenced by listening to Shankar & Trane).
	🥁 11:40am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Leaving East of Java" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" the cymbal work here is amazing: really great on headphones!
	🥁 11:41am doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @11:40 Interesting, I hardly hear it over my speakers...
	11:42am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @11:40 Playing this one due to your hipping me to it.
	🥁 11:42am DJ Peter: I'm into cymbalism
	🥁 11:42am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Leaving East of Java" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" Hear him when the rest of the band drops out...
	🥁 11:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah always gratifying when a Drummer recognizes a TrapSet as not only a punctuator but a tone generator.
	11:44am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @11:42 There it is.
	11:44am Jeff Golick: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:44 Cyrille's cymbal work in general is something I really love. Cyrille...cymbal...coincidence?
	🥁 11:45am Listener Gregory: Hmm, my local hospice is hosting a Death Café this Wednesday. They say, "At a Death Cafe, people, often strangers, gather to eat snacks, drink tea, and discuss death." There's snacks!!
	11:46am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:45 Huh. While driving about the Catskills this past week, the billboard we saw the most of was one advertising hospice care.
	🥁 11:46am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:45 "There's snacks!!" LOL
	🥁 11:47am hyde: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:45 the snacks are laced with henbane
	11:48am Jeff Golick: This Cyrille quartet -- Ben Street, Bill Frisell, Richard Teitelbaum & AC -- is low-key one of the great current groups going.
	🥁 11:48am DJ Peter: ↳ hyde @11:47 more likely in the tea. But yeah, be careful of the snacks too
	🥁 11:49am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Kaddish" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" This album cover is like a throwback to late 1980s ECM
	11:49am Dean: There's a not-half-bad brewery in Seattle occupying a former funeral home, The Pine Box. Good place for a Death Café. I live next to a funeral home, the one where Glenn Spearman's memorial was held. Quiet neighbors most of the time.
	🥁 11:49am DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @11:49 "annual report to the stockholders" vibe
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @11:47 If they're free, you really can't argue.
	🥁 11:50am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Kaddish" by "Andrew Cyrille Quartet" Expect something called Kaddish to be on the Tzadik label...
	11:50am Dean: ...or the City Lights imprint.
	🥁 11:50am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...come to the Dark Side - we has cookies...
	🥁 11:51am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:48 Before their first album came out, who predicted that Cyrille would form a quartet with Frisell and record it on ECM? I for one did not.
	11:51am bobobob Plasticland: john Lindberg is the only one I haven't heard of before
	11:51am Dean: Lindberg: NY String Trio
	11:51am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:51 Yes, unexpected!
	11:51am Andrew in Toronto: Great show! Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:52am DJ Peter: ↳ bobobob Plasticland @11:51 Played with Braxton before Dresser. Lately on some Wadada Leo Smith records too. AACM?
	🥁 11:52am hyde: ↳ Dean @11:51 love those guys
	11:53am bobob: Frisell did a free show in Piedmont Park in Atlanta...of course I went
	🥁 11:54am doctorjazz: From Wikipedia: After moving to New York, he played with the Human Arts Ensemble alongside Joseph Bowie and Bobo Shaw.[2] In 1977, with James Emery and Billy Bang, Lindberg co-founded the String Trio of New York.[3] In 1980 he formed a trio with Jimmy Lyons and Sunny Murray. From 1980 to 1983 he lived in Paris, playing there solo and with Murray and John Tchicai.[1] He has recorded extensively as a leader. John Lindberg studied bass with the bassist from the Battle Creek, Michigan symphony orchestra, bassist David Izenzon and jazz musician Roscoe Mitchell.
	🥁 11:55am doctorjazz: Great show, can't believe it went so quickly, thanks Jeff!
	11:55am Sem: Jazzbos delight this morning. Thank you, Jeff. See you and all next time round the schedule.
	11:57am Dean: Worth mentioning, too, that the Between the Lines label is (was?) a Franz Koglmann venture.
	🥁 11:57am hyde: what, no Muhal Richard Abrams Black Saint records, haha? just kidding, there's so much stuff. great show. thank you!
	11:58am chresti: Hospice is trending..
	11:58am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:59am Yvang: Thanks Jeff! Thank you Andrew Cyrille! I enjoyed the show!
	🥁 11:59am Listener Gregory: Very enjoyable show, Jeff. Thanks a lot.
	🥁 12:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	🥁 12:00pm Listener Gregory: See you all at the Death Café!
	12:01pm Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @11:57 It was in the pile! Impossible to really capture it all.
	12:02pm Jeff Golick: Thanks to everyone who commented, and everyone who didn't commemt! See you next time!
	🥁 12:12pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks jeff, had to go back to sleep, my loss ... to the archives
	🥁 12:30pm WR: Thank you! Jeff!

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