WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from October 8, 2023

Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 8:58am DJ Peter: good morning all! Anyone got a good Ibarra pun?
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am hyde: hello!
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am tom tom the pipers son: good morning jeff, people...
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Good morning, DJ Peter. I'd like to try, but I don't think I'd pass the Ibarra? Is Doug here?
	🦀 ♥ 9:02am Sem: Good morning, afternoon or evening, jazzbos and the jazz curious, and hello, JG, DJ Peter, hyde, and tom tom.
	♥ 9:02am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am Sem: Hello, early bird, AiT!
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: Greetings, hyde! tom tom the pipers son! Sem! Andrew in Toronto!
	♥ 9:03am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ hyde @9:01 hello hyde!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am hyde: ↳ Sem @9:02 hiya Sem
	♥ 9:03am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Sem @9:02 Good morning Sem!
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am hyde: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:03 hey AiT!
	9:04am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz~
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am listener james from westwood: Good Sunday, Jeff and all! Been waiting for this weather all summer.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am WR: Hello Jeff, drummer folks.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am fred: I still haven't seen Susie Ibarra! There are worst things in the world, but in mine this is a problem
	9:04am Listener Gregory: God morning hell raisers and DOubters.
	♥ 9:06am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff, OUTies
	🦀 ♥ 9:08am WR: The first time I saw in person a Ibarra performance was at the old Stone 20 years ago. A trio of Asian Women. I took a few photos but can find the files.
	🦀 ♥ 9:08am duke: Good morning OUT there types
	♥ 9:08am coelacanth∅: ↳ DJ Peter @8:58 can Ibarra a David S Ware album?
	♥ 9:08am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:06 hiya coel!
	🦀 ♥ 9:09am DJ Peter: Intriguing insight, Jeff! Perhaps wind players are more drawn to birdsong, but percussionists are more drawn to the sounds of physical environment?
	♥ 9:09am coelacanth∅: ...oh wait, you said "good" pun
	♥ 9:09am coelacanth∅: hi Andrew!
	♥ 9:09am Jeff Golick: Mornin', Revolution Rabbit Nov63! listener james from westwood! WR! Listener Gregory! coelacanth∅! duke!
	🦀 ♥ 9:10am DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:09 There’s no such thing as a “good” pun actually. But yours is “pretty good”
	🦀 ♥ 9:10am DJ Peter: “The pun is the lowest form of wit but the highest form of rhyme”
	🦀 ♥ 9:11am tom tom the pipers son: wasn't there a han bennink water piece last week...?
	🦀 ♥ 9:11am fred: Susie Ibarra had a residency at Wave Farm recently: wavefarm.org...
	♥ 9:11am coelacanth∅: but it's dependedt on pronouncing it I- barra. is it not correctly pronounced E-barra?
	🦀 ♥ 9:13am fred: ↳ DJ Peter @9:10 The Pun is sacred on Doug's GTDR stream
	🦀 ♥ 9:14am DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:11 Not sure, actually!
	🦀 ♥ 9:14am DJ Peter: ↳ fred @9:13 Our lingua Franca, indeed it is
	🦀 ♥ 9:15am Listener Gregory: @coelacanth∅ has passed the Ibarra exam! Congratulations!
	♥ 9:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:11 There was, tom tom the pipers son! Water water everywhere.
	🦀 ♥ 9:16am fred: ↳ DJ Peter @9:14 Wasn't Lingua Franca Doug's first band in high school?
	9:16am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	🦀 ♥ 9:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:16 not a drop to plink...
	♥ 9:17am Jeff Golick: ↳ WR @9:08 I also saw Susie Ibarra at the old Stone, in a duo, but I can't remember who the other person was.
	🦀 ♥ 9:17am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:11 From “Schwarzwaldfahrt” I believe
	♥ 9:18am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:16 Howdy, chresti!
	🦀 ♥ 9:18am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:17 ah, thx, i think that word inspired a whole discussion
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am DJ Peter: ICYMI: Natalie Weiner on the state of Discogs: www.theverge.com...
	♥ 9:19am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:18 Yes, about farts, I believe.
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:19 Speaking of wind instruments
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:19 ;)
	9:20am Listener Gregory: I bizarrely saw Ibarra lead a trio with Craig Taborn in Florence when I spent some time there. It felt strange to leave downtown NYC to hear “downtown” musicians a thousand miles away.
	♥ 9:24am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:19 I've started to brace for the dissolution/degradation of both discogs and bandcamp, and I'm not happy about it.
	♥ 9:24am coelacanth∅: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:19 and saltzshaker was talking about swamp farts last night. ...did someone leave some questionable 3 bean salad in the station refrigerator?
	🦀 ♥ 9:25am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:24 Have there been Bandcamp omens? Or you just don’t trust the overlords?
	🦀 ♥ 9:25am tom tom the pipers son: is ibarra's partner miguel frasconi, i think they were both part of derek bailey's memorial month at the stone, both had played w/ bailey, correct?
	♥ 9:26am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:25 Epic dumping bandcamp so soon, over to Songtradr (ugh), and Songtradr not recognizing the BC union...doesn't feel like a great direction to me.
	♥ 9:28am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:25 Honestly have no idea if Frasconi and Ibarra are together. Ibarra did record two duo records with Bailey, which, alas, I was not able to get my hands on for this show.
	♥ 9:28am coelacanth∅: i braced myself for bandcamp turning to shit when it got bought; but so far they're keeping their word. discogs has become greedy and will turn to total shit like ebay did within a few years.
	♥ 9:29am coelacanth∅: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:26 oh i didn't know that
	🦀 ♥ 9:30am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:26 Oy i also missed this. Bad omens indeed
	🦀 ♥ 9:31am Stork: Hi Drum-Nutz! What great sounds I do hear! So happy to hear Susie Ibarra!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:32am hyde: i'm not the hugest Cory Doctorow fan, but his concept of the enshittification of platforms on the internet really hits the right note
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:28 i don't know where i got the idea that they were together,... just from a quick search, frasconi did play at bailey memorial, not sure other than that.
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am sydnius: ↳ hyde @9:32 The big G is more and more 💩
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am Sem: ↳ Stork @9:31 Morning, Herr Storch!
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am hyde: "HERE IS HOW platforms die: First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die."
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am DJ Peter: ↳ hyde @9:34 Yes, that seems right
	♥ 9:36am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @9:32 100%. hyde. "Enshittification" captures the evolution of these services/platorms so well. I'm not sure I've seen a new word enter the lexicon so quickly and definitively.
	🦀 ♥ 9:36am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Saturday" by "Yo La Tengo" Huh! I've heard this a dozen times without noticing (or maybe just remembering) the Ibarra connection.
	♥ 9:39am Jeff Golick: Hey hey hey, Stork and syndius!
	🦀 ♥ 9:40am sydnius: Hey Hey Jeff Gloick!
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: ↳ sydnius @9:40 well played (sorry about that typo!)
	🦀 ♥ 9:41am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:36 There's so much information on discogs! I hope this will be saved and kept available. I guess it will be copyrighted and packaged as a new company
	🦀 ♥ 9:41am sydnius: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:40 no worries sir, funnin ya!
	🦀 ♥ 9:42am Stork: ↳ Sem @9:34 I sense Sem-illa!
	🦀 ♥ 9:42am adamdoesit: Good morning, Jeff G and Ibarrists!
	🦀 ♥ 9:43am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	🦀 ♥ 9:43am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "IV" by "Myra Melford's Fire And Water Quintet" What is it with all the water??
	♥ 9:43am Jeff Golick: We rolling now - adamdoesit and holland oats are here!
	🦀 ♥ 9:44am Stork: ↳ adamdoesit @9:42 adamdoesit, I drink it, that settles it!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am Sem: ↳ Stork @9:42 ha!
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:43 There is also fire, you know. And earth. Multiple elements to pick from.
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Ether" by "John Lindberg Quartet" Dean was educating me last week about the Between the Lines label. Discogs helped me realize that I had more than one album from them, including this one.
	🦀 ♥ 9:46am fred: ↳ adamdoesit @9:42 Did you see any good dance shows lately?
	♥ 9:50am Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Procession Along the Aciga Tree" by "Prism Quarte... A very good and very recent article on this piece, via WRTI, that is also great on Ibarra's background in general: www.wrti.org...
	🦀 ♥ 9:50am adamdoesit: ↳ fred @9:46 Not I. listenmissy's been to Fall for Dance, and NYCB, this weekend. Poor me, I had to make do with Nick Cave, solo-ish with Colin Greenwood on bass.
	🦀 ♥ 9:51am sydnius: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:45 I am an expert in Unobtainium
	♥ 9:52am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:45 This Winter Birds record, and another by the same Lindberg quartet, are very good in an understated way, I think.
	🦀 ♥ 9:53am adamdoesit: ↳ Stork @9:44 You spins it, I hears it, and that's enough for me.
	🦀 ♥ 9:55am Andrew Waterloo: good morning drummers
	♥ 9:56am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew Waterloo @9:55 Hola, Andrew Waterloo!
	🦀 ♥ 9:59am tom tom the pipers son: been busy but listening, this has been enjoyable
	🦀 ♥ 10:00am Stork: I have a bunch of Susie Ibarra rekkids, but almost nothing I'm hearing here today - splendidiocious!
	♥ 10:01am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:59 Glad to hear it!
	♥ 10:02am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @9:41 discogs was started with the only goal being to become the most complete database for vinyl (and ONLY vinyl; and actually only 1 genre as well) and was not intended to ever cost anything nor host a buying/selling platform. it still doesn't cost anything but there are advertisements and now they take 10% of shipping charges, like those scumbags at ebay. and now the only currency is paypal, who also are gradually becoming fat gluttonous pigs. nobody's satisfied with making an easy fortune; they then always want to make a mega-fortune. ...so, despite the obvious perversion of the founder; i think at least the information will always be there and accessible; although it probably will -not long from now, become unpleasant to use when they decide to try to FORCE users to see advertisements (like youboob)
	10:03am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If there's Ads ...it's not 'Free'. Not to Adsplain, but for emphasis...
	♥ 10:04am coelacanth∅: wikipedia is still fairly uncorrupted. but most people who use it -which is probably most people who use the internet, aren't smart enough to donate money to them...so it will eventually change.
	🦀 ♥ 10:06am fred: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:02 I think you're optimistic. I'm pretty sure their terms of use include that they own any information anyone submits
	♥ 10:06am coelacanth∅: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:03 that's a clever phrase but not true!
	🦀 ♥ 10:10am Listener Gregory: ↳ sydnius @9:51 Did you see that Unobtanium's first album is back in print? You can get it at... oops, just checked, and it's sold out!
	10:11am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Well - Ads take your time & attention. & they impact the aesthetic (call it) of the thing itself. Aside from whatever influence the Advertiser has on the Producer, &tc. So - Not Free. In a way - all the more insidious & underhanded - for compromising all these relations under a pretense of transparency & mutuality (Ads are largely Lies - & always psychologically manipulative as a Form)...
	10:12am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oof. All good power & healing to you & yours DJ JeffG.
	♥ 10:13am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @10:06 it's user-created. someone owns the site, so of course they own the information once it's on their site. yes if the site ceases to exist the information will no longer be available, but i think that's an extremely unlikely scenario.
	🦀 ♥ 10:13am Listener Gregory: Oy, cataracts! Another water reference? Hope the surgery works well, Jeff.
	🦀 ♥ 10:13am adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs" Oy, Jeff G. When it rains it pours -- and sometimes it pours dog poop at 2am!
	🦀 ♥ 10:15am fred: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:11 online ads are funny to me: I always get the same ones, so they're just annoying and I leave the room
	♥ 10:15am coelacanth∅: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:11 true. in that sense it's not free.
	♥ 10:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @10:13 You got that right.
	🦀 ♥ 10:17am fred: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:13 They can still make you pay to access it
	♥ 10:19am coelacanth∅: jeez, Jeff you should've planned all that out better. good luck for perfect future vision; speedy recovery to your wife; excellent bowel control to the pooch...
	♥ 10:20am Jeff Golick: So Stork not only has a great show coming up for y'all in about 90 min, but he also did a beautiful Susie Ibarra show in 2020, from which I have stolen liberally: wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:20 Isn't stealing the highest form of praise in art?
	♥ 10:23am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @10:17 they wont. people wont pay for it and they know that. just as most people don't pay for wikipedia now, or that pop-up shitshow,allmusic. nobody will pay. instead, the sites will become crap.
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am Uncle Michael: Are are all the party pizzles in the hizzle?
	♥ 10:24am Jeff Golick: ↳ Uncle Michael @10:23 Let me put that in my lingo translator...one minute... Yes.
	♥ 10:24am coelacanth∅: i guess i'm not going to bed tonight, since it's almost 1030am. this should be fun this afternoon; better not use power tools.
	🦀 ♥ 10:25am Uncle Michael: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:24 I'm pleased to hear it.
	🦀 ♥ 10:26am tom tom the pipers son: @ jeff: do you think ibarra is a 'flat' drummer, to use a painting term, in that she plays along the surface, puncturing, punctuating it
	🦀 ♥ 10:26am fred: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:24 Using power tools to get to sleep sounds drastic indeed
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am Stork: ↳ Song: "Human Beginnings" by "Susie Ibarra" Thank you kindly for the plugs - but this show you're doing is teaching me loads of new things!! I only have a few of these records so far. Including this beauty
	♥ 10:28am Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Human Beginnings" by "Susie Ibarra" This band! Pauline Oliveros, John Lindberg, Assif Tsahar, Chris Speed, Cooper-Moore, Wadada Leo Smith, and Charles Burnham.
	10:28am Jon: This is great, love this band’s sound
	♥ 10:29am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @10:26 cleaner and faster than our ancestors' trepanation drills though
	🦀 ♥ 10:29am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:28 The kids just happened to show up at the club at the same time and all dug in!
	♥ 10:30am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:26 Maybe? I feel like she really gets inside the music, mostly, instead of driving it or punctuating it -- more of a steady flow?
	🦀 ♥ 10:30am Stork: Hey, Jeff I was doing KP and missed your mention of - cataract surgery? All digits crossed for you - though I hear it's usually a pretty minor procedure, and almost always successfull.
	🦀 ♥ 10:32am fred: ↳ Stork @10:30 That "almost" was chef's kiss
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: ↳ Jon @10:28 Hey, Jon! Thanks for checking in.
	🦀 ♥ 10:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:30 right, not driving it... by on the surface, i mean pretty much in front of things, maybe not punctuating but puncturing, to use another painting ref, like lucio fontana
	♥ 10:36am Jeff Golick: ↳ Stork @10:30 According to my follow up visit yesterday, it was successful, but I still need (new) corrective lenses for that eye, so I'm a bit lopsided for at least a week. Also, I'm experiencing some fluttering of light when I move my eye, which I REALLY hope is only a passing thing.
	🦀 ♥ 10:39am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:36 hope the eye business is in order shortly...
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am Stork: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:36 Here's hoping. I've heard from others that there are post-surgery weirdnesses which take time to subside, or adjust to. Let's hope for the subsiding.
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am Sem: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:29 Nothing makes me happier than to be reminded of medical advancements which have relegated trepanning, blood-letting, and consuming spinach by the bale to history's "whatever-were we thinking" garbage bin.
	🦀 ♥ 10:41am Stork: ↳ Song: "Epitone" by "Susie Ibarra & Mark Dresser" Well, that was swell!!
	🦀 ♥ 10:41am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:30 The David Ware quartet being an exception perhaps? I’m not curious to go back and see if that holds true. Fascinating that Ware used so may different drummers when Shipp and Parker were constants.
	♥ 10:41am coelacanth∅: one thing instantly obvious hearing David Ware with Susie for the first time after knowing the group with Whit Dickey for a while is a lot more space in the music
	🦀 ♥ 10:43am DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:41 Thanks will listen for that! I guess I’ll HAVE to go listen to all of David Ware chronologically! (Have = want to)
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:36 If it doesn't pass, try Bryce therapy to reset expectations
	10:45am Dean: Had the good fortune of hearing Susie Ibarra solo at the short-lived Jazz House in Berkeley many years ago.
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Lakbay: Gawain Ng Pamilya II" by "Susie Ibarra" I remember enjoying this when it came out, but I haven't heard it for years. I should revisit it. That's what's great about these reviews.
	♥ 10:54am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @10:45 Dean! Always coming through with a jealousy-inducing comment. Welcome.
	♥ 10:55am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:46 It makes for the best kind of homework.
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am adamdoesit: Jeff G, thanks for the tip about Tzadik's new streaming availability. Looking forward to wading into the catalog on Tidal.
	🦀 ♥ 10:56am adamdoesit: ↳ Sem @10:40 <drops bale of spinach> Well blow me down!
	♥ 10:56am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @10:55 Oh yeah! Big news; even made the NYT: www.nytimes.com...
	10:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...okay - it's 'Autumn Serenade' that Hartman & Coltrane do - not 'Leaves' ...don't even know all my 'chestnuts', & clearly got a long way to go yet to even be a Jazzbo...
	🦀 ♥ 11:03am Listener Gregory: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:59 I think your chestnut was a walnut.
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am doctorjazz: Present, sir (I have a late pass)
	11:06am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:03 ...like - whatever ! ...it's not close to Xmas yet...
	♥ 11:07am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @11:05 Sorry, we do not accept LP liners as late passes.
	🦀 ♥ 11:09am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "In Order to Survive" by "William Parker / In Orde... This is lively.
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @11:05 I was getting worried
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am WR: ↳ Song: "Autumn Leaves" by "Matthew Shipp Trio" Was dodging traffic while this was playing but still want to comment on th muscular melodic playing from Shipp on that recording.
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am doctorjazz: Had a car accident last night; no injuries, but was shaken up, slept very badly...
	♥ 11:11am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Oh shit, so sorry to hear, doc! Glad you are ok, but that's traumatic.
	🦀 ♥ 11:11am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Ugh! Well, you're safe now.
	♥ 11:12am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Hey doc That`s too bad. It`s good that everyone`s okay.
	🦀 ♥ 11:13am doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @11:12 Thanks, but the car needed to be towed. Have to sort it out today.
	11:13am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Yeah they're a bit shocking. Everyone in one piece - Good News indeed.
	🦀 ♥ 11:14am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 At least no records were harmed, and you can get the rest you need on the weekend. Better have the car towed than you
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am doctorjazz: ↳ fred @11:14 ;- )
	11:15am Doug Schulkind: Hello from the Laurel Highlands. It may snow!
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am adamdoesit: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 I'm relieved you and yours are ok doc. Now, please, no more reading liner notes behind the wheel!
	🦀 ♥ 11:16am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" This is cool!
	♥ 11:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:15 Taking your cues from this Ware album, eh? Hello, Doug!
	🦀 ♥ 11:16am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" What the heck
	🦀 ♥ 11:18am doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @11:15 It's turning the LP's over in the car that did me in... www.darkroastedblend.com...
	♥ 11:18am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:16 Maybe David owed Marvin one?
	🦀 ♥ 11:19am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @11:18 If I'd been driving when I recognized what this song is, I would have veered into another lane.
	🦀 ♥ 11:21am hyde: so it's the laughter
	11:21am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" In the Trane Quartet mode like so much is ...usually quite welcome where I sit anyhow. But also a real sense of him expressing thru his own voice here. He's got technique as well as something emotive to say that he means. An organic quality to his phrasing. Appreciated.
	♥ 11:22am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:18 What another great themed show! Thanks Jeff! I have to go walk a rescue dog. See you next week.
	♥ 11:23am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @11:22 Thanks, Andrew! Give that pooch a scrich from me. And see you in TWO weeks, as it'll be Kim Sorise & Global Grease here next Sunday!
	11:24am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:21 ...yerknow maybe some Ayler or Schepp in there - I dunno. Some Babbs okay...
	🦀 ♥ 11:24am adamdoesit: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:21 He's got the Warewithal for sure.
	🦀 ♥ 11:24am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:23 Are you going on a vacation?
	🦀 ♥ 11:25am chresti: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" There it is! I was about to believe that I no longer remember this song!
	♥ 11:25am Jeff Golick: ↳ fred @11:24 Sort of? De-camping to the Catskills for a week.Will be working (remotely), but amid nicer scenery.
	🦀 ♥ 11:26am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @11:21 I personally forget the laughter and remember the time someone said my haircut looked like a squirrel.
	🦀 ♥ 11:26am chresti: ↳ chresti @11:25 Which means this is a great cover
	🦀 ♥ 11:27am hyde: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:26 it's a compliment!
	11:27am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:26 ...cause ..no one laughs @ that...
	🦀 ♥ 11:28am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @11:27 I don't have enough hair to look like a squirrel now, so those were good times.
	🦀 ♥ 11:28am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:25 I asked because I am still miffed about not asking Doug when he spent a week next to my workplace and I didn't meet him
	11:28am Dean: Live in the World gives listeners the opportunity to compare three Ware drummers. It's a live compilation, so the first word in the title takes a long i, I assume...or does it?
	♥ 11:29am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @11:28 It's Schroedinger's Album Title, Dean. It's both.
	🦀 ♥ 11:30am chresti: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:26 "after laughter come tears..."
	♥ 11:32am Jeff Golick: ↳ fred @11:28 Oh, I see, fred. If I ever make it back to Paris, I will let you know!
	🦀 ♥ 11:36am chresti: ↳ chresti @11:30 I just gave myself an ear worm!
	♥ 11:40am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @11:36 Uh oh! Can you replace it with this Wadada Leo Smith tune?
	🦀 ♥ 11:45am chresti: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:40 don't think so since it was LG's comment @11:26 that started it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:48am Listener Gregory: ↳ chresti @11:45 Sorry! But it's better than getting stuck with that haircut.
	11:51am Dean: "Shave and an ear worm...five cents!"
	♥ 11:51am spodiodi: hello, Jeff and all glad to catsh a song or two
	♥ 11:51am Jeff Golick: ↳ spodiodi @11:51 spodiodi!
	11:52am Dean: I think my copy of Drum Talk remains sealed from when I bought it, c.2000...
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am fred: ↳ chresti @11:36 My earworm remedy is PLU's Swinglargo
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am adamdoesit: That's two memorable Susie Ibarra tributes I've heard on this one little web station. Thank you, DJ Jeff G!
	🦀 ♥ 11:54am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff! Enjoy the trip next week!
	♥ 11:54am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @11:53 Alla the Ibarra you can handle-a. I need a nap.
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am fred: I want to see Susi Ibarra even more now! Thanks Jeff, I guess
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am hyde: cool show, thanks!
	11:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am Listener Gregory: Thanks a lot, Jeff. Rest your eyes.
	11:58am ?: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:23 Kim will fit right in Good luck with your eyes.
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am Sem: ^ what Listener Gregory said. Be well all, later!
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Mixed Results, Part I" by "DUX Orchestra" You know what they say: "Dog Walks Duck" is not news, but "Duck Walks Dog" is.
	♥ 12:02pm Jeff Golick: Thanks so much for being here, you wonderful people. See ("see") you in two.
	🦀 ♥ 12:16pm WR: Thank you, Jeff.

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October 8, 2023: Susie Ibarra!

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Susie Ibarra

Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970	0:02:16 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra & Makoto Fujimura	Floating Along Banares	Walking on Water	Culture Care Creative, Inc.	2021	0:07:03 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra & Tashi Dorji	Mist of Light	Master of Time	Astral Spirits	2022	0:11:57 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra	Drum Sketch No. 1 "Drum Sketch No. 1" by "Susie Ibarra"	Drum Sketches	Innova	2007	0:19:39 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra	Metal, Wood and Skin	NYC LIMINAL SERIES, vol. 3: Drums	Chaikin Records	2021	0:22:32 (Pop-up)
Yo La Tengo	Saturday "Saturday" by "Yo La Tengo"	And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out	Matador	2011	0:31:38 (Pop-up)
Yuko Fujiyama	Autumn Whispers "Autumn Whispers" by "Yuko Fujiyama"	Night Wave	Innova	2018	0:36:11 (Pop-up)
Myra Melford's Fire And Water Quintet	IV	For the Love of Fire and Water	RogueArt	2022	0:38:22 (Pop-up)
John Lindberg Quartet	Ether "Ether" by "John Lindberg Quartet"	Winter Birds	Between the Lines	2004	0:43:39 (Pop-up)
Prism Quartet & Susie Ibarra	Procession Along the Aciga Tree	Procession Along the Aciga Tree	XAS Records	2023	0:48:31 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"				1:04:27 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra Trio	Flower After Flower	Songbird Suite	Tzadik	2002	1:12:37 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra	Human Beginnings "Human Beginnings" by "Susie Ibarra"	Flower After Flower	Tzadik	2000	1:17:57 (Pop-up)
Sylvie Courvoisier / Joëlle Léandre / Susie Ibarra	Fact Two	Passaggio	Intakt Records	2002	1:30:19 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra & Mark Dresser	Epitone	Tone Time	Wobbly Rail	2003	1:37:04 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra	Lakbay: Gawain Ng Pamilya II	Folkloriko	Tzadik	2004	1:40:14 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Wolfgang Dauner Quintet	My Man's Gone Now				1:45:16 (Pop-up)
Matthew Shipp Trio	Autumn Leaves "Autumn Leaves" by "Matthew Shipp Trio"	The Multiplication Table	hatOLOGY	1998	1:51:42 (Pop-up)
William Parker / In Order to Survive	In Order to Survive	The Peach Orchard	AUM Fidelity	1998	1:59:41 (Pop-up)
Davis S. Ware Quartet	The Way We Were	Go See the World	Columbia	1998	2:11:52 (Pop-up)
Davis S. Ware Quartet	Lexicon "Lexicon" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet"	Live in the World	thirsty ear	1998	2:26:21 (Pop-up)
Wadada Leo Smith, Susie Ibarra & John Zorn	Ghost Writing	50th Birthday Celebration Vol. 8	Tzadik	2003	2:30:23 (Pop-up)
DUX Orchestra	Mixed Results, Part I	duck walks dog (with mixed results)	NoBusiness Records	1994/2000	2:42:07 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra & Denis Charles	Kulintang Medley	Drum Talk	Wobbly Rail	1998	2:48:28 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975	2:55:56 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 8:58am DJ Peter: good morning all! Anyone got a good Ibarra pun?
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am hyde: hello!
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am tom tom the pipers son: good morning jeff, people...
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Good morning, DJ Peter. I'd like to try, but I don't think I'd pass the Ibarra? Is Doug here?
	🦀 ♥ 9:02am Sem: Good morning, afternoon or evening, jazzbos and the jazz curious, and hello, JG, DJ Peter, hyde, and tom tom.
	♥ 9:02am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am Sem: Hello, early bird, AiT!
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: Greetings, hyde! tom tom the pipers son! Sem! Andrew in Toronto!
	♥ 9:03am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ hyde @9:01 hello hyde!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am hyde: ↳ Sem @9:02 hiya Sem
	♥ 9:03am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Sem @9:02 Good morning Sem!
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am hyde: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:03 hey AiT!
	9:04am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz~
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am listener james from westwood: Good Sunday, Jeff and all! Been waiting for this weather all summer.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am WR: Hello Jeff, drummer folks.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am fred: I still haven't seen Susie Ibarra! There are worst things in the world, but in mine this is a problem
	9:04am Listener Gregory: God morning hell raisers and DOubters.
	♥ 9:06am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff, OUTies
	🦀 ♥ 9:08am WR: The first time I saw in person a Ibarra performance was at the old Stone 20 years ago. A trio of Asian Women. I took a few photos but can find the files.
	🦀 ♥ 9:08am duke: Good morning OUT there types
	♥ 9:08am coelacanth∅: ↳ DJ Peter @8:58 can Ibarra a David S Ware album?
	♥ 9:08am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:06 hiya coel!
	🦀 ♥ 9:09am DJ Peter: Intriguing insight, Jeff! Perhaps wind players are more drawn to birdsong, but percussionists are more drawn to the sounds of physical environment?
	♥ 9:09am coelacanth∅: ...oh wait, you said "good" pun
	♥ 9:09am coelacanth∅: hi Andrew!
	♥ 9:09am Jeff Golick: Mornin', Revolution Rabbit Nov63! listener james from westwood! WR! Listener Gregory! coelacanth∅! duke!
	🦀 ♥ 9:10am DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:09 There’s no such thing as a “good” pun actually. But yours is “pretty good”
	🦀 ♥ 9:10am DJ Peter: “The pun is the lowest form of wit but the highest form of rhyme”
	🦀 ♥ 9:11am tom tom the pipers son: wasn't there a han bennink water piece last week...?
	🦀 ♥ 9:11am fred: Susie Ibarra had a residency at Wave Farm recently: wavefarm.org...
	♥ 9:11am coelacanth∅: but it's dependedt on pronouncing it I- barra. is it not correctly pronounced E-barra?
	🦀 ♥ 9:13am fred: ↳ DJ Peter @9:10 The Pun is sacred on Doug's GTDR stream
	🦀 ♥ 9:14am DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:11 Not sure, actually!
	🦀 ♥ 9:14am DJ Peter: ↳ fred @9:13 Our lingua Franca, indeed it is
	🦀 ♥ 9:15am Listener Gregory: @coelacanth∅ has passed the Ibarra exam! Congratulations!
	♥ 9:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:11 There was, tom tom the pipers son! Water water everywhere.
	🦀 ♥ 9:16am fred: ↳ DJ Peter @9:14 Wasn't Lingua Franca Doug's first band in high school?
	9:16am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	🦀 ♥ 9:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:16 not a drop to plink...
	♥ 9:17am Jeff Golick: ↳ WR @9:08 I also saw Susie Ibarra at the old Stone, in a duo, but I can't remember who the other person was.
	🦀 ♥ 9:17am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:11 From “Schwarzwaldfahrt” I believe
	♥ 9:18am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:16 Howdy, chresti!
	🦀 ♥ 9:18am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @9:17 ah, thx, i think that word inspired a whole discussion
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am DJ Peter: ICYMI: Natalie Weiner on the state of Discogs: www.theverge.com...
	♥ 9:19am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:18 Yes, about farts, I believe.
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:19 Speaking of wind instruments
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:19 ;)
	9:20am Listener Gregory: I bizarrely saw Ibarra lead a trio with Craig Taborn in Florence when I spent some time there. It felt strange to leave downtown NYC to hear “downtown” musicians a thousand miles away.
	♥ 9:24am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:19 I've started to brace for the dissolution/degradation of both discogs and bandcamp, and I'm not happy about it.
	♥ 9:24am coelacanth∅: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:19 and saltzshaker was talking about swamp farts last night. ...did someone leave some questionable 3 bean salad in the station refrigerator?
	🦀 ♥ 9:25am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:24 Have there been Bandcamp omens? Or you just don’t trust the overlords?
	🦀 ♥ 9:25am tom tom the pipers son: is ibarra's partner miguel frasconi, i think they were both part of derek bailey's memorial month at the stone, both had played w/ bailey, correct?
	♥ 9:26am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:25 Epic dumping bandcamp so soon, over to Songtradr (ugh), and Songtradr not recognizing the BC union...doesn't feel like a great direction to me.
	♥ 9:28am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:25 Honestly have no idea if Frasconi and Ibarra are together. Ibarra did record two duo records with Bailey, which, alas, I was not able to get my hands on for this show.
	♥ 9:28am coelacanth∅: i braced myself for bandcamp turning to shit when it got bought; but so far they're keeping their word. discogs has become greedy and will turn to total shit like ebay did within a few years.
	♥ 9:29am coelacanth∅: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:26 oh i didn't know that
	🦀 ♥ 9:30am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:26 Oy i also missed this. Bad omens indeed
	🦀 ♥ 9:31am Stork: Hi Drum-Nutz! What great sounds I do hear! So happy to hear Susie Ibarra!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:32am hyde: i'm not the hugest Cory Doctorow fan, but his concept of the enshittification of platforms on the internet really hits the right note
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:28 i don't know where i got the idea that they were together,... just from a quick search, frasconi did play at bailey memorial, not sure other than that.
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am sydnius: ↳ hyde @9:32 The big G is more and more 💩
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am Sem: ↳ Stork @9:31 Morning, Herr Storch!
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am hyde: "HERE IS HOW platforms die: First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die."
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am DJ Peter: ↳ hyde @9:34 Yes, that seems right
	♥ 9:36am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @9:32 100%. hyde. "Enshittification" captures the evolution of these services/platorms so well. I'm not sure I've seen a new word enter the lexicon so quickly and definitively.
	🦀 ♥ 9:36am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Saturday" by "Yo La Tengo" Huh! I've heard this a dozen times without noticing (or maybe just remembering) the Ibarra connection.
	♥ 9:39am Jeff Golick: Hey hey hey, Stork and syndius!
	🦀 ♥ 9:40am sydnius: Hey Hey Jeff Gloick!
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: ↳ sydnius @9:40 well played (sorry about that typo!)
	🦀 ♥ 9:41am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:36 There's so much information on discogs! I hope this will be saved and kept available. I guess it will be copyrighted and packaged as a new company
	🦀 ♥ 9:41am sydnius: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:40 no worries sir, funnin ya!
	🦀 ♥ 9:42am Stork: ↳ Sem @9:34 I sense Sem-illa!
	🦀 ♥ 9:42am adamdoesit: Good morning, Jeff G and Ibarrists!
	🦀 ♥ 9:43am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	🦀 ♥ 9:43am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "IV" by "Myra Melford's Fire And Water Quintet" What is it with all the water??
	♥ 9:43am Jeff Golick: We rolling now - adamdoesit and holland oats are here!
	🦀 ♥ 9:44am Stork: ↳ adamdoesit @9:42 adamdoesit, I drink it, that settles it!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am Sem: ↳ Stork @9:42 ha!
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:43 There is also fire, you know. And earth. Multiple elements to pick from.
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Ether" by "John Lindberg Quartet" Dean was educating me last week about the Between the Lines label. Discogs helped me realize that I had more than one album from them, including this one.
	🦀 ♥ 9:46am fred: ↳ adamdoesit @9:42 Did you see any good dance shows lately?
	♥ 9:50am Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Procession Along the Aciga Tree" by "Prism Quarte... A very good and very recent article on this piece, via WRTI, that is also great on Ibarra's background in general: www.wrti.org...
	🦀 ♥ 9:50am adamdoesit: ↳ fred @9:46 Not I. listenmissy's been to Fall for Dance, and NYCB, this weekend. Poor me, I had to make do with Nick Cave, solo-ish with Colin Greenwood on bass.
	🦀 ♥ 9:51am sydnius: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:45 I am an expert in Unobtainium
	♥ 9:52am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:45 This Winter Birds record, and another by the same Lindberg quartet, are very good in an understated way, I think.
	🦀 ♥ 9:53am adamdoesit: ↳ Stork @9:44 You spins it, I hears it, and that's enough for me.
	🦀 ♥ 9:55am Andrew Waterloo: good morning drummers
	♥ 9:56am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew Waterloo @9:55 Hola, Andrew Waterloo!
	🦀 ♥ 9:59am tom tom the pipers son: been busy but listening, this has been enjoyable
	🦀 ♥ 10:00am Stork: I have a bunch of Susie Ibarra rekkids, but almost nothing I'm hearing here today - splendidiocious!
	♥ 10:01am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:59 Glad to hear it!
	♥ 10:02am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @9:41 discogs was started with the only goal being to become the most complete database for vinyl (and ONLY vinyl; and actually only 1 genre as well) and was not intended to ever cost anything nor host a buying/selling platform. it still doesn't cost anything but there are advertisements and now they take 10% of shipping charges, like those scumbags at ebay. and now the only currency is paypal, who also are gradually becoming fat gluttonous pigs. nobody's satisfied with making an easy fortune; they then always want to make a mega-fortune. ...so, despite the obvious perversion of the founder; i think at least the information will always be there and accessible; although it probably will -not long from now, become unpleasant to use when they decide to try to FORCE users to see advertisements (like youboob)
	10:03am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If there's Ads ...it's not 'Free'. Not to Adsplain, but for emphasis...
	♥ 10:04am coelacanth∅: wikipedia is still fairly uncorrupted. but most people who use it -which is probably most people who use the internet, aren't smart enough to donate money to them...so it will eventually change.
	🦀 ♥ 10:06am fred: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:02 I think you're optimistic. I'm pretty sure their terms of use include that they own any information anyone submits
	♥ 10:06am coelacanth∅: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:03 that's a clever phrase but not true!
	🦀 ♥ 10:10am Listener Gregory: ↳ sydnius @9:51 Did you see that Unobtanium's first album is back in print? You can get it at... oops, just checked, and it's sold out!
	10:11am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Well - Ads take your time & attention. & they impact the aesthetic (call it) of the thing itself. Aside from whatever influence the Advertiser has on the Producer, &tc. So - Not Free. In a way - all the more insidious & underhanded - for compromising all these relations under a pretense of transparency & mutuality (Ads are largely Lies - & always psychologically manipulative as a Form)...
	10:12am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oof. All good power & healing to you & yours DJ JeffG.
	♥ 10:13am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @10:06 it's user-created. someone owns the site, so of course they own the information once it's on their site. yes if the site ceases to exist the information will no longer be available, but i think that's an extremely unlikely scenario.
	🦀 ♥ 10:13am Listener Gregory: Oy, cataracts! Another water reference? Hope the surgery works well, Jeff.
	🦀 ♥ 10:13am adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs" Oy, Jeff G. When it rains it pours -- and sometimes it pours dog poop at 2am!
	🦀 ♥ 10:15am fred: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:11 online ads are funny to me: I always get the same ones, so they're just annoying and I leave the room
	♥ 10:15am coelacanth∅: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:11 true. in that sense it's not free.
	♥ 10:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @10:13 You got that right.
	🦀 ♥ 10:17am fred: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:13 They can still make you pay to access it
	♥ 10:19am coelacanth∅: jeez, Jeff you should've planned all that out better. good luck for perfect future vision; speedy recovery to your wife; excellent bowel control to the pooch...
	♥ 10:20am Jeff Golick: So Stork not only has a great show coming up for y'all in about 90 min, but he also did a beautiful Susie Ibarra show in 2020, from which I have stolen liberally: wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:20 Isn't stealing the highest form of praise in art?
	♥ 10:23am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @10:17 they wont. people wont pay for it and they know that. just as most people don't pay for wikipedia now, or that pop-up shitshow,allmusic. nobody will pay. instead, the sites will become crap.
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am Uncle Michael: Are are all the party pizzles in the hizzle?
	♥ 10:24am Jeff Golick: ↳ Uncle Michael @10:23 Let me put that in my lingo translator...one minute... Yes.
	♥ 10:24am coelacanth∅: i guess i'm not going to bed tonight, since it's almost 1030am. this should be fun this afternoon; better not use power tools.
	🦀 ♥ 10:25am Uncle Michael: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:24 I'm pleased to hear it.
	🦀 ♥ 10:26am tom tom the pipers son: @ jeff: do you think ibarra is a 'flat' drummer, to use a painting term, in that she plays along the surface, puncturing, punctuating it
	🦀 ♥ 10:26am fred: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:24 Using power tools to get to sleep sounds drastic indeed
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am Stork: ↳ Song: "Human Beginnings" by "Susie Ibarra" Thank you kindly for the plugs - but this show you're doing is teaching me loads of new things!! I only have a few of these records so far. Including this beauty
	♥ 10:28am Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Human Beginnings" by "Susie Ibarra" This band! Pauline Oliveros, John Lindberg, Assif Tsahar, Chris Speed, Cooper-Moore, Wadada Leo Smith, and Charles Burnham.
	10:28am Jon: This is great, love this band’s sound
	♥ 10:29am coelacanth∅: ↳ fred @10:26 cleaner and faster than our ancestors' trepanation drills though
	🦀 ♥ 10:29am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:28 The kids just happened to show up at the club at the same time and all dug in!
	♥ 10:30am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:26 Maybe? I feel like she really gets inside the music, mostly, instead of driving it or punctuating it -- more of a steady flow?
	🦀 ♥ 10:30am Stork: Hey, Jeff I was doing KP and missed your mention of - cataract surgery? All digits crossed for you - though I hear it's usually a pretty minor procedure, and almost always successfull.
	🦀 ♥ 10:32am fred: ↳ Stork @10:30 That "almost" was chef's kiss
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: ↳ Jon @10:28 Hey, Jon! Thanks for checking in.
	🦀 ♥ 10:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:30 right, not driving it... by on the surface, i mean pretty much in front of things, maybe not punctuating but puncturing, to use another painting ref, like lucio fontana
	♥ 10:36am Jeff Golick: ↳ Stork @10:30 According to my follow up visit yesterday, it was successful, but I still need (new) corrective lenses for that eye, so I'm a bit lopsided for at least a week. Also, I'm experiencing some fluttering of light when I move my eye, which I REALLY hope is only a passing thing.
	🦀 ♥ 10:39am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:36 hope the eye business is in order shortly...
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am Stork: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:36 Here's hoping. I've heard from others that there are post-surgery weirdnesses which take time to subside, or adjust to. Let's hope for the subsiding.
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am Sem: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:29 Nothing makes me happier than to be reminded of medical advancements which have relegated trepanning, blood-letting, and consuming spinach by the bale to history's "whatever-were we thinking" garbage bin.
	🦀 ♥ 10:41am Stork: ↳ Song: "Epitone" by "Susie Ibarra & Mark Dresser" Well, that was swell!!
	🦀 ♥ 10:41am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:30 The David Ware quartet being an exception perhaps? I’m not curious to go back and see if that holds true. Fascinating that Ware used so may different drummers when Shipp and Parker were constants.
	♥ 10:41am coelacanth∅: one thing instantly obvious hearing David Ware with Susie for the first time after knowing the group with Whit Dickey for a while is a lot more space in the music
	🦀 ♥ 10:43am DJ Peter: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:41 Thanks will listen for that! I guess I’ll HAVE to go listen to all of David Ware chronologically! (Have = want to)
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:36 If it doesn't pass, try Bryce therapy to reset expectations
	10:45am Dean: Had the good fortune of hearing Susie Ibarra solo at the short-lived Jazz House in Berkeley many years ago.
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Lakbay: Gawain Ng Pamilya II" by "Susie Ibarra" I remember enjoying this when it came out, but I haven't heard it for years. I should revisit it. That's what's great about these reviews.
	♥ 10:54am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @10:45 Dean! Always coming through with a jealousy-inducing comment. Welcome.
	♥ 10:55am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:46 It makes for the best kind of homework.
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am adamdoesit: Jeff G, thanks for the tip about Tzadik's new streaming availability. Looking forward to wading into the catalog on Tidal.
	🦀 ♥ 10:56am adamdoesit: ↳ Sem @10:40 <drops bale of spinach> Well blow me down!
	♥ 10:56am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @10:55 Oh yeah! Big news; even made the NYT: www.nytimes.com...
	10:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...okay - it's 'Autumn Serenade' that Hartman & Coltrane do - not 'Leaves' ...don't even know all my 'chestnuts', & clearly got a long way to go yet to even be a Jazzbo...
	🦀 ♥ 11:03am Listener Gregory: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:59 I think your chestnut was a walnut.
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am doctorjazz: Present, sir (I have a late pass)
	11:06am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:03 ...like - whatever ! ...it's not close to Xmas yet...
	♥ 11:07am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @11:05 Sorry, we do not accept LP liners as late passes.
	🦀 ♥ 11:09am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "In Order to Survive" by "William Parker / In Orde... This is lively.
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @11:05 I was getting worried
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am WR: ↳ Song: "Autumn Leaves" by "Matthew Shipp Trio" Was dodging traffic while this was playing but still want to comment on th muscular melodic playing from Shipp on that recording.
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am doctorjazz: Had a car accident last night; no injuries, but was shaken up, slept very badly...
	♥ 11:11am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Oh shit, so sorry to hear, doc! Glad you are ok, but that's traumatic.
	🦀 ♥ 11:11am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Ugh! Well, you're safe now.
	♥ 11:12am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Hey doc That`s too bad. It`s good that everyone`s okay.
	🦀 ♥ 11:13am doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @11:12 Thanks, but the car needed to be towed. Have to sort it out today.
	11:13am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 Yeah they're a bit shocking. Everyone in one piece - Good News indeed.
	🦀 ♥ 11:14am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 At least no records were harmed, and you can get the rest you need on the weekend. Better have the car towed than you
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am doctorjazz: ↳ fred @11:14 ;- )
	11:15am Doug Schulkind: Hello from the Laurel Highlands. It may snow!
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am adamdoesit: ↳ doctorjazz @11:10 I'm relieved you and yours are ok doc. Now, please, no more reading liner notes behind the wheel!
	🦀 ♥ 11:16am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" This is cool!
	♥ 11:16am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:15 Taking your cues from this Ware album, eh? Hello, Doug!
	🦀 ♥ 11:16am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" What the heck
	🦀 ♥ 11:18am doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @11:15 It's turning the LP's over in the car that did me in... www.darkroastedblend.com...
	♥ 11:18am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:16 Maybe David owed Marvin one?
	🦀 ♥ 11:19am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @11:18 If I'd been driving when I recognized what this song is, I would have veered into another lane.
	🦀 ♥ 11:21am hyde: so it's the laughter
	11:21am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" In the Trane Quartet mode like so much is ...usually quite welcome where I sit anyhow. But also a real sense of him expressing thru his own voice here. He's got technique as well as something emotive to say that he means. An organic quality to his phrasing. Appreciated.
	♥ 11:22am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:18 What another great themed show! Thanks Jeff! I have to go walk a rescue dog. See you next week.
	♥ 11:23am Jeff Golick: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @11:22 Thanks, Andrew! Give that pooch a scrich from me. And see you in TWO weeks, as it'll be Kim Sorise & Global Grease here next Sunday!
	11:24am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:21 ...yerknow maybe some Ayler or Schepp in there - I dunno. Some Babbs okay...
	🦀 ♥ 11:24am adamdoesit: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:21 He's got the Warewithal for sure.
	🦀 ♥ 11:24am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:23 Are you going on a vacation?
	🦀 ♥ 11:25am chresti: ↳ Song: "The Way We Were" by "Davis S. Ware Quartet" There it is! I was about to believe that I no longer remember this song!
	♥ 11:25am Jeff Golick: ↳ fred @11:24 Sort of? De-camping to the Catskills for a week.Will be working (remotely), but amid nicer scenery.
	🦀 ♥ 11:26am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @11:21 I personally forget the laughter and remember the time someone said my haircut looked like a squirrel.
	🦀 ♥ 11:26am chresti: ↳ chresti @11:25 Which means this is a great cover
	🦀 ♥ 11:27am hyde: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:26 it's a compliment!
	11:27am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:26 ...cause ..no one laughs @ that...
	🦀 ♥ 11:28am Listener Gregory: ↳ hyde @11:27 I don't have enough hair to look like a squirrel now, so those were good times.
	🦀 ♥ 11:28am fred: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:25 I asked because I am still miffed about not asking Doug when he spent a week next to my workplace and I didn't meet him
	11:28am Dean: Live in the World gives listeners the opportunity to compare three Ware drummers. It's a live compilation, so the first word in the title takes a long i, I assume...or does it?
	♥ 11:29am Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @11:28 It's Schroedinger's Album Title, Dean. It's both.
	🦀 ♥ 11:30am chresti: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:26 "after laughter come tears..."
	♥ 11:32am Jeff Golick: ↳ fred @11:28 Oh, I see, fred. If I ever make it back to Paris, I will let you know!
	🦀 ♥ 11:36am chresti: ↳ chresti @11:30 I just gave myself an ear worm!
	♥ 11:40am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @11:36 Uh oh! Can you replace it with this Wadada Leo Smith tune?
	🦀 ♥ 11:45am chresti: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:40 don't think so since it was LG's comment @11:26 that started it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:48am Listener Gregory: ↳ chresti @11:45 Sorry! But it's better than getting stuck with that haircut.
	11:51am Dean: "Shave and an ear worm...five cents!"
	♥ 11:51am spodiodi: hello, Jeff and all glad to catsh a song or two
	♥ 11:51am Jeff Golick: ↳ spodiodi @11:51 spodiodi!
	11:52am Dean: I think my copy of Drum Talk remains sealed from when I bought it, c.2000...
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am fred: ↳ chresti @11:36 My earworm remedy is PLU's Swinglargo
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am adamdoesit: That's two memorable Susie Ibarra tributes I've heard on this one little web station. Thank you, DJ Jeff G!
	🦀 ♥ 11:54am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff! Enjoy the trip next week!
	♥ 11:54am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @11:53 Alla the Ibarra you can handle-a. I need a nap.
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am fred: I want to see Susi Ibarra even more now! Thanks Jeff, I guess
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am hyde: cool show, thanks!
	11:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am Listener Gregory: Thanks a lot, Jeff. Rest your eyes.
	11:58am ?: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:23 Kim will fit right in Good luck with your eyes.
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am Sem: ^ what Listener Gregory said. Be well all, later!
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Mixed Results, Part I" by "DUX Orchestra" You know what they say: "Dog Walks Duck" is not news, but "Duck Walks Dog" is.
	♥ 12:02pm Jeff Golick: Thanks so much for being here, you wonderful people. See ("see") you in two.
	🦀 ♥ 12:16pm WR: Thank you, Jeff.

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