WFMU: Neighbors Noise with Jesse Kaminsky: Playlist from December 19, 2017

Listener comments!
	♥ 7:02pm gloomsday (michelle): howdy, neighbors~ hope everyone's doing well.
	7:02pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hey gloomsday! Hows your car situation, hope this week was better than last!
	♥ 7:07pm gloomsday (michelle): hi jesse! lots of things still up in the air, but i'm getting a sinking feeling that the auto shop's going to total my poor car and i'll have to scramble to find something else in the next couple weeks. i bought the car at the end of october and really loved it, so i'm super bummed. :(
	7:15pm Jesse Kaminsky: Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that! At least perhaps you can get a new one with insurance?
	♥ 7:20pm northguineahills: Doesn't Francisco Lopez love to put his audience in a darkened room and blindfold everyone?
	♥ 7:21pm northguineahills: Well, that totally sucks, gloomsday. Hope it works out.
	7:22pm Jesse Kaminsky: Yeah, the only time I saw his stuff live everyone sat in the middle of a big dark room with quadrophonic speakers around the perimeter. blindfolds optional but recommended. Hi ngh!
	♥ 7:22pm gloomsday (michelle): yeah, fortunately the other motorist's insurance is taking care of it because he admitted full fault. the unfortunate part is that it looks like they're gonna try to give me KBB value for the vehicle, despite the fact that this particular car is never sold at KBB value since they're fairly beloved and dependable. so i'm already looking at around a $3-4,000 loss and no way to replace the vehicle with whatever dollar amount they end of giving me if it's in range of KBB value. it's... stressful, haha. trying to stay positive and not let it get to me, but it's just a huge bummer all around to know that i was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
	♥ 7:23pm gloomsday (michelle): hi NGH! thanks for your well wishes. i hope things work out too.
	♥ 7:27pm gloomsday (michelle): i listened to last week's NN three times all the way through. it invariably lowers stress levels, i'm sure of it. :)
	7:30pm Jesse Kaminsky: Oh that's awesome, so glad to hear that! I have two really long tracks tonight that are pretty much ready made relaxation devices and some shorter ones that are probably not relaxing in any real way..
	♥ 7:32pm gloomsday (michelle): HAHA! that's a-okay; diversity in soundscapes is always acceptable!
	7:42pm geezerette: Singing doggies choir practice!
	7:44pm geezerette: Howdy, Jesse and noisey neighbors!
	7:45pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hey geezerette, welcome!
	♥ 7:45pm gloomsday (michelle): hi geezerette!
	♥ 7:48pm northguineahills: Ok, leaving work, I may get back in time just in time for your end. Going to go read w/ a pint. Working late this week so I can have boxing day and a half off. Cheery-OOOOs everybodies!
	7:50pm Jesse Kaminsky: Have a great book northguineahills, sounds like a perfect plan!
	7:50pm geezerette: Gloomsday, Howdy! Good luck with car. Super glad that the car took the hit, not you. We have a friend who won't walk ever again, he's still teaching and traveling, but imagine never being able to walk or dance or climb! Not ever having a face to face conversation!
	♥ 7:51pm gloomsday (michelle): seeya around, NGH <3
	7:51pm geezerette: NGH, enjoy that pint!
	♥ 7:54pm gloomsday (michelle): you're totally right, geezerette. i really should just be grateful i came out of it uninjured, and the rest will get sorted in time. so many people have not been so lucky. wow, i'm sorry to hear about your friend. that's so tragic and terrible.
	♥ 8:00pm gloomsday (michelle): i miss thunderstorms so much... i've heard thunder exactly three times in the two and a half years i've lived in the pacific northwest. such a good, full sound.
	8:05pm Jesse Kaminsky: I hear you, thunderstorms are super rare up in the northeast as well, at least compared to how they were when I lived in Missouri
	8:08pm geezerette: We don't get them in LA much either. Good ones in the desert sometimes.
	♥ 8:09pm gloomsday (michelle): i didn't know that about the northeast! i think the thunderstorms are the only things i miss about arizona, haha. the summer monsoons were turbulent and breathtaking when they rolled in.
	8:10pm Jesse Kaminsky: well, maybe not super rare but rare. Not frequent I guess. I've heard occasional thundersnow though so that makes up for it a bit
	♥ 8:12pm gloomsday (michelle): THUNDERSNOW! i've heard it a couple of times in arizona (it totally snows in northern arizona, promise!) and it's so wild. i love it.
	8:12pm still b/p: Dogs all over the northeast: "Thunderstorms rare?...say whaaaaaat?!"
	8:14pm geezerette: Gloomsday, I lived in Arizona too. Those were gorgeous storms. I really miss those landscapes. There's a lot more color in the Sonoran desert than there is in the Mojave. Hey B/P!
	♥ 8:20pm gloomsday (michelle): oh! another arizonan : ) i admittedly miss the sonoran desert as well. in the spring when the snow melts from the mountains and trickles down, the desert is impossibly gorgeous. ah! look at you, making me miss arizona! never thought i'd see the day.
	♥ 8:24pm gloomsday (michelle): i love this
	8:27pm still b/p: The Chihuahuan desert -- northern sections in west Texas -- not so much color. Some spring bloom. I'd love to get back to further western landscapes I've sampled briefly , and get to new ones for me never seen. Utah parks, etc. Santa, a camping van and a wandering stake, please!
	8:27pm geezerette: Ha ha! It's my interior landscape. Do you know the old Krazy Kat comic strips by George Herriman? They're great in so many ways but one of my favorite things is that they're set in Coconino Counnty & the colors are so accurate. And the beautiful weirdness!
	8:29pm geezerette: B/P, yes! And a water witch / dowsing wand.
	8:29pm Jesse Kaminsky: I got the chance to drive through northern Arizona last year and the trip from the north rim of the grand canyon to mesa verde was like really totally overwhelming to me, this was even after driving across most of the country and back
	♥ 8:30pm gloomsday (michelle): hahaha, i'm shocked to say that i'm not familiar with the krazy kat comics. but that's delightful--coconino county is where i grew up, so i imagine i would enjoy them. : ) gonna dig some up.
	♥ 8:31pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Jesse; Jesseters
	♥ 8:34pm gloomsday (michelle): ah, you've been to northern AZ too! the grand canyon is truly something else, and that drive to mesa verde is choice. overwhelming is a good word. i take it you didn't go up north to southern utah? genuinely my favorite landscapes ever up there.
	8:34pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hi coelacanthø!
	8:35pm still b/p: Bricks for throwing are a naturally occurring feature in the Coconino region, yeah? Some trips give extra gifts. On my one trip to Grand Canyon, among many fantastic sights, there was a snowstorm on the way up there after flying into Phoenix. When the interstate reopened after storm closure, the passing desert landscape and tan and red rock formations were decorated with gleaming white snow!
	8:36pm Jesse Kaminsky: we actually came from up north, coming down from Portland, through Nevada and Utah, camped at bryce canyon before the grand canyon. there was a big forest fire at the grand canyon so most of the camping was closed and we camped on a forrest service road briefly before heading on. It was a lot of driving!
	♥ 8:37pm gloomsday (michelle): b/p, the red rocks in sedona and surrounding area coated with snow are one of the most wonderful sights to behold. : ) that interstate can get super slippery and scary; glad you made it up north safely.
	♥ 8:37pm coelacanth∅: g, if 5 minutes ago someone had asked me to describe the scenery in the krazy kat cartoon, i would've said it's black & white.
	8:37pm geezerette: www.lambiek.net... Krazy Kat. GREAT writing too, teriffic language, :D
	8:41pm geezerette: Hey, Coel! The Sunday ones are in color and equally art and literature. :)
	♥ 8:41pm gloomsday (michelle): oh, gotcha! i did a very similar trip in reverse a few years back when i moved up to portland from flagstaff, az! bryce is one of the most incredible places i've ever been. zion is gorgeous as well, but bryce makes me emotional when i'm standing at the edge. that is indeed a lot of driving, but at least for that swath you had beautiful scenery to keep you company.
	8:44pm geezerette: Yep, you guys, it's a magical landscape. And OMG, big yes to gorgeousness of Utah National Monuments.
	♥ 8:44pm coelacanth∅: oh i forgot that it probably was a comic strip first. i was thinking of the cartoon. ...the cartoon was intriguing and bewildering as a child.
	♥ 8:45pm Uncle Michael: Hi, neighbors.
	♥ 8:46pm gloomsday (michelle): hi coelacanth∅ and uncle michael!
	8:46pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hey Uncle Michael! @gloomsday, yeah the only kind of boring part of the drive was east of the mississippi for the most part. I think I'm geographically biased towards the west but have lived in the east most of my life oddly
	8:46pm geezerette: Oh, Coel, bet you're thinking of Felix! Uncle!
	♥ 8:49pm gloomsday (michelle): hehe, "geographically biased" i love that. i've never been anywhere east of nashville, and haven't driven around or truly explored anywhere east of texas, so i have no frame of reference to know which part of the states i'd prefer geographically. one day i'd like to do a road trip like the one you took. it sounds nice. i also desperately want to see the fall colors in the northeast at some point.
	♥ 8:51pm Uncle Michael: How's everyone?
	♥ 8:51pm coelacanth∅: no g i'm thinking of krazy kat...and ignats. i'm pretty sure the cartoon was b/w. i never cared much for felix, for some reason.
	8:55pm geezerette: Coel, right cat and mouse then. Totally recommend the Sunday ones.
	♥ 8:55pm coelacanth∅: good Michael, and you? - i've come to feel the east - particularly from ny>north, is just as gorgeous as the west and southwest...it's just not on as grand a scale.
	8:56pm geezerette: Yeah, different kind of beauty.
	♥ 8:57pm coelacanth∅: i have to seek that out,g. i don't remember ever seeing it in color; but maybe i just don't remember. i didn't watch much tv as a child, and practically none now.
	8:59pm geezerette: UM, feeling good, enjoying the building holiday excitement. And you?...Cookie baking?
	9:01pm still b/p: How am I? I think eating too sparely and on a weird schedule for a few days on top of just a small taste of Smoking Bishop on Saturday night affected me for the worse for 3 days! Not as many sweeping vistas in this region, but some outstanding and dramatic ones. Up high in the Presidentials and on Katahdin, the notches and ravines, the drop-offs and faces and formations...the surroundings can be stirringly affecting, taking the breath, letting you hit sensory heights.
	9:03pm geezerette: Coel, Krazy Kat was a comic strip 100 years ago The Sunday funnies in color were collected in large format books at some poin, '80s or '90s I think. You can see some online.
	9:07pm geezerette: Amen to landscape. Slows down time, puts things in perspective.
	♥ 9:08pm coelacanth∅: well it's been 15 years since i've been out west. it's hard to compare. i was overwhelmed every time i traveled but then when i moved to upstate(ish) ny i was overwhelmed again.
	9:08pm geezerette: Like this show does!
	♥ 9:08pm Uncle Michael: I'm good. I might bake something this weekend. I'm also planning to try out a pressure cooker pho ga recipe.
	9:10pm geezerette: Wow! Like to hear how that goes.
	♥ 9:12pm Uncle Michael: Here, beat me to it! www.seriouseats.com...
	♥ 9:15pm coelacanth∅: i'm commissioned to make something for a potluck xmas and i know what i want to make but haven't made it in so long i think i might screw it up. (i also seem to be having trouble finding a suitable winter squash, weirdly.)
	9:18pm still b/p: Is there an art and science to pressure cooking prep and timing, or is it mainly boldness in lockin' 'er down and settin' 'er goin'? I made a turkey meatloaf for a gathering the other night. Two people thought it was soda bread or cake. One discovered the mistaken impression before eating, and one upon the eating. And, lo, there was surprise.
	9:20pm geezerette: U.M., thanks for posting that! We have a pressure cooker we've never used and my husband really wants to try it. That looks great! (Today he used a chainsaw, not for cooking. Or sculpture.)
	♥ 9:29pm coelacanth∅: i had a very good stainless steel pressure cooker, last i knew. it may have disappeared from my mother's attic by now, as things do. i mainly used it for beans to save energy and time but never got it down. they didn't seem to ever get the soft texture that beans must have to digest well. ...maybe i'll look for it when i'm there monday. i know more now than i did then.
	♥ 9:30pm Uncle Michael: SB/P, so far, all I've used a pressure cooker for is making stock.
	♥ 9:30pm Uncle Michael: chainsaws are fun
	9:32pm geezerette: haha!
	♥ 9:33pm coelacanth∅: they're all fun and games 'till someone loses a leg.
	♥ 9:34pm Uncle Michael: I do a lot of chainsawing around my place. And a huge, very old silver maple just dropped a major limb I'll need to get after.
	9:35pm still b/p: One mild day last winter, I was at the bottom of the ladder while a friend was at the top, without goggles, chaps or suitable gloves, bracing himself in and on the tree branches, precariously positioned with a leaning reach of the chainsaw to the target limb. I thought, "This is the kind of thing you read about..." " But we're both still here.
	9:36pm Jesse Kaminsky: You're still both on the tree?
	9:38pm still b/p: Bring sandwiches and hot thermos of spiked tea for us.
	9:39pm Jesse Kaminsky: OMW!
	♥ 9:40pm Uncle Michael: "without goggles" might be the dumbest part. Shit in your eyes is no fun.
	♥ 9:43pm gloomsday: hahaha!
	9:43pm still b/p: Knew a guy a few decades ago who'd lost an eye to a nailgun ricochet-back. Think of him often on spitting-tool and flying-debris jobs. But then still don't always get engoggled.
	♥ 9:44pm gloomsday: whoa, that sounds... very ouch.
	9:46pm Jesse Kaminsky: Spaulding Gray caused me to always wear goggles
	9:49pm coelacanth∅: I actually never wear goggles using a chainsaw, but I have glasses on. it's never been an issue. I won't do it without earplugs though.
	9:50pm coelacanth∅: (I always wear goggles using circular saws though)
	♥ 9:50pm Uncle Michael: I wear a helmet with a face screen and ear covers.
	9:53pm geezerette: Only way to do it.
	9:53pm Jesse Kaminsky: Project grizzly style?
	9:54pm coelacanth∅: I had ear covers. mice ate them! anyway the earplugs are rated better. ...and I don't ever get my face in line with a moving chainsaw. maybe that's why eye protection hasn't been an issue. -I sometimes think I should always wear long pants and a long-sleeved shirt though.
	9:54pm still b/p: For the love of god, put heavy gauge helmets on your snowmen! I thought this was faked when I saw the earliest shots in a version that starts with the blade-snout POV shot. Then the shred-shear-shit get real, man. www.youtube.com...
	9:55pm geezerette: Coel. that sounds like an album title!
	9:57pm geezerette: Thanks Jesse, great show! Good evening all!
	♥ 9:59pm Uncle Michael: Thanks Jesse and all you lumberjacks!
	9:59pm coelacanthØ: jeez it's over? Thanks Jesse! see y'all
	9:59pm coelacanthØ: and have a happy whatever
	10:00pm still b/p: A couple of nice starred pices. Thanks! The thing about flying debris from force and/or mechanical assist, like with car accidents: the physics of forces, vectors, impacts, ricochets and trajectories and results are the damndest thing...that we don't necessarily expect or can even accurately diagram afterward.
	♥ 10:00pm gloomsday: thanks so much, jesse! nice chatting with all y'all, tonight. <3
	10:00pm still b/p: starred "pieces"
	10:00pm Jesse Kaminsky: Night all, have a great week!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year
Francisco López	La Selva "La Selva" by "Francisco López"	La Selva	V2_Archief	1998
William Basinski	Silent Night "Silent Night" by "William Basinski"	Silent Night	2062	2004
Thomas Brinkmann	Untitled "Untitled" by "Thomas Brinkmann"	Studio 1, Variationen	Profan	1997
Christopher Willits	Simplicity "Simplicity" by "Christopher Willits"	Horizon	Ghostly	2017
Caterina Barbieri	Pneuma "Pneuma" by "Caterina Barbieri"	Vertical	Cassauna	2014
Convextion	Tidal Friction "Tidal Friction" by "Convextion"	2845	a.r.t.less	2016
DJ Bone	Struggle 1 "Struggle 1" by "DJ Bone"	Struggle EP - The Intricacies Of Simplicity	Subject Detroit	2006
Tres Demented	Brainfreeze "Brainfreeze" by "Tres Demented"	Shez Satan	Planet E	2006
Aleksi Perälä	GBLFT1740070 "GBLFT1740070" by "Aleksi Perälä"	Paradox	трип	2017
David Last	Hope 2 Hope "Hope 2 Hope" by "David Last"	88-99	Jacktone	2017

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Listener comments!
	♥ 7:02pm gloomsday (michelle): howdy, neighbors~ hope everyone's doing well.
	7:02pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hey gloomsday! Hows your car situation, hope this week was better than last!
	♥ 7:07pm gloomsday (michelle): hi jesse! lots of things still up in the air, but i'm getting a sinking feeling that the auto shop's going to total my poor car and i'll have to scramble to find something else in the next couple weeks. i bought the car at the end of october and really loved it, so i'm super bummed. :(
	7:15pm Jesse Kaminsky: Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that! At least perhaps you can get a new one with insurance?
	♥ 7:20pm northguineahills: Doesn't Francisco Lopez love to put his audience in a darkened room and blindfold everyone?
	♥ 7:21pm northguineahills: Well, that totally sucks, gloomsday. Hope it works out.
	7:22pm Jesse Kaminsky: Yeah, the only time I saw his stuff live everyone sat in the middle of a big dark room with quadrophonic speakers around the perimeter. blindfolds optional but recommended. Hi ngh!
	♥ 7:22pm gloomsday (michelle): yeah, fortunately the other motorist's insurance is taking care of it because he admitted full fault. the unfortunate part is that it looks like they're gonna try to give me KBB value for the vehicle, despite the fact that this particular car is never sold at KBB value since they're fairly beloved and dependable. so i'm already looking at around a $3-4,000 loss and no way to replace the vehicle with whatever dollar amount they end of giving me if it's in range of KBB value. it's... stressful, haha. trying to stay positive and not let it get to me, but it's just a huge bummer all around to know that i was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
	♥ 7:23pm gloomsday (michelle): hi NGH! thanks for your well wishes. i hope things work out too.
	♥ 7:27pm gloomsday (michelle): i listened to last week's NN three times all the way through. it invariably lowers stress levels, i'm sure of it. :)
	7:30pm Jesse Kaminsky: Oh that's awesome, so glad to hear that! I have two really long tracks tonight that are pretty much ready made relaxation devices and some shorter ones that are probably not relaxing in any real way..
	♥ 7:32pm gloomsday (michelle): HAHA! that's a-okay; diversity in soundscapes is always acceptable!
	7:42pm geezerette: Singing doggies choir practice!
	7:44pm geezerette: Howdy, Jesse and noisey neighbors!
	7:45pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hey geezerette, welcome!
	♥ 7:45pm gloomsday (michelle): hi geezerette!
	♥ 7:48pm northguineahills: Ok, leaving work, I may get back in time just in time for your end. Going to go read w/ a pint. Working late this week so I can have boxing day and a half off. Cheery-OOOOs everybodies!
	7:50pm Jesse Kaminsky: Have a great book northguineahills, sounds like a perfect plan!
	7:50pm geezerette: Gloomsday, Howdy! Good luck with car. Super glad that the car took the hit, not you. We have a friend who won't walk ever again, he's still teaching and traveling, but imagine never being able to walk or dance or climb! Not ever having a face to face conversation!
	♥ 7:51pm gloomsday (michelle): seeya around, NGH <3
	7:51pm geezerette: NGH, enjoy that pint!
	♥ 7:54pm gloomsday (michelle): you're totally right, geezerette. i really should just be grateful i came out of it uninjured, and the rest will get sorted in time. so many people have not been so lucky. wow, i'm sorry to hear about your friend. that's so tragic and terrible.
	♥ 8:00pm gloomsday (michelle): i miss thunderstorms so much... i've heard thunder exactly three times in the two and a half years i've lived in the pacific northwest. such a good, full sound.
	8:05pm Jesse Kaminsky: I hear you, thunderstorms are super rare up in the northeast as well, at least compared to how they were when I lived in Missouri
	8:08pm geezerette: We don't get them in LA much either. Good ones in the desert sometimes.
	♥ 8:09pm gloomsday (michelle): i didn't know that about the northeast! i think the thunderstorms are the only things i miss about arizona, haha. the summer monsoons were turbulent and breathtaking when they rolled in.
	8:10pm Jesse Kaminsky: well, maybe not super rare but rare. Not frequent I guess. I've heard occasional thundersnow though so that makes up for it a bit
	♥ 8:12pm gloomsday (michelle): THUNDERSNOW! i've heard it a couple of times in arizona (it totally snows in northern arizona, promise!) and it's so wild. i love it.
	8:12pm still b/p: Dogs all over the northeast: "Thunderstorms rare?...say whaaaaaat?!"
	8:14pm geezerette: Gloomsday, I lived in Arizona too. Those were gorgeous storms. I really miss those landscapes. There's a lot more color in the Sonoran desert than there is in the Mojave. Hey B/P!
	♥ 8:20pm gloomsday (michelle): oh! another arizonan : ) i admittedly miss the sonoran desert as well. in the spring when the snow melts from the mountains and trickles down, the desert is impossibly gorgeous. ah! look at you, making me miss arizona! never thought i'd see the day.
	♥ 8:24pm gloomsday (michelle): i love this
	8:27pm still b/p: The Chihuahuan desert -- northern sections in west Texas -- not so much color. Some spring bloom. I'd love to get back to further western landscapes I've sampled briefly , and get to new ones for me never seen. Utah parks, etc. Santa, a camping van and a wandering stake, please!
	8:27pm geezerette: Ha ha! It's my interior landscape. Do you know the old Krazy Kat comic strips by George Herriman? They're great in so many ways but one of my favorite things is that they're set in Coconino Counnty & the colors are so accurate. And the beautiful weirdness!
	8:29pm geezerette: B/P, yes! And a water witch / dowsing wand.
	8:29pm Jesse Kaminsky: I got the chance to drive through northern Arizona last year and the trip from the north rim of the grand canyon to mesa verde was like really totally overwhelming to me, this was even after driving across most of the country and back
	♥ 8:30pm gloomsday (michelle): hahaha, i'm shocked to say that i'm not familiar with the krazy kat comics. but that's delightful--coconino county is where i grew up, so i imagine i would enjoy them. : ) gonna dig some up.
	♥ 8:31pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Jesse; Jesseters
	♥ 8:34pm gloomsday (michelle): ah, you've been to northern AZ too! the grand canyon is truly something else, and that drive to mesa verde is choice. overwhelming is a good word. i take it you didn't go up north to southern utah? genuinely my favorite landscapes ever up there.
	8:34pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hi coelacanthø!
	8:35pm still b/p: Bricks for throwing are a naturally occurring feature in the Coconino region, yeah? Some trips give extra gifts. On my one trip to Grand Canyon, among many fantastic sights, there was a snowstorm on the way up there after flying into Phoenix. When the interstate reopened after storm closure, the passing desert landscape and tan and red rock formations were decorated with gleaming white snow!
	8:36pm Jesse Kaminsky: we actually came from up north, coming down from Portland, through Nevada and Utah, camped at bryce canyon before the grand canyon. there was a big forest fire at the grand canyon so most of the camping was closed and we camped on a forrest service road briefly before heading on. It was a lot of driving!
	♥ 8:37pm gloomsday (michelle): b/p, the red rocks in sedona and surrounding area coated with snow are one of the most wonderful sights to behold. : ) that interstate can get super slippery and scary; glad you made it up north safely.
	♥ 8:37pm coelacanth∅: g, if 5 minutes ago someone had asked me to describe the scenery in the krazy kat cartoon, i would've said it's black & white.
	8:37pm geezerette: www.lambiek.net... Krazy Kat. GREAT writing too, teriffic language, :D
	8:41pm geezerette: Hey, Coel! The Sunday ones are in color and equally art and literature. :)
	♥ 8:41pm gloomsday (michelle): oh, gotcha! i did a very similar trip in reverse a few years back when i moved up to portland from flagstaff, az! bryce is one of the most incredible places i've ever been. zion is gorgeous as well, but bryce makes me emotional when i'm standing at the edge. that is indeed a lot of driving, but at least for that swath you had beautiful scenery to keep you company.
	8:44pm geezerette: Yep, you guys, it's a magical landscape. And OMG, big yes to gorgeousness of Utah National Monuments.
	♥ 8:44pm coelacanth∅: oh i forgot that it probably was a comic strip first. i was thinking of the cartoon. ...the cartoon was intriguing and bewildering as a child.
	♥ 8:45pm Uncle Michael: Hi, neighbors.
	♥ 8:46pm gloomsday (michelle): hi coelacanth∅ and uncle michael!
	8:46pm Jesse Kaminsky: Hey Uncle Michael! @gloomsday, yeah the only kind of boring part of the drive was east of the mississippi for the most part. I think I'm geographically biased towards the west but have lived in the east most of my life oddly
	8:46pm geezerette: Oh, Coel, bet you're thinking of Felix! Uncle!
	♥ 8:49pm gloomsday (michelle): hehe, "geographically biased" i love that. i've never been anywhere east of nashville, and haven't driven around or truly explored anywhere east of texas, so i have no frame of reference to know which part of the states i'd prefer geographically. one day i'd like to do a road trip like the one you took. it sounds nice. i also desperately want to see the fall colors in the northeast at some point.
	♥ 8:51pm Uncle Michael: How's everyone?
	♥ 8:51pm coelacanth∅: no g i'm thinking of krazy kat...and ignats. i'm pretty sure the cartoon was b/w. i never cared much for felix, for some reason.
	8:55pm geezerette: Coel, right cat and mouse then. Totally recommend the Sunday ones.
	♥ 8:55pm coelacanth∅: good Michael, and you? - i've come to feel the east - particularly from ny>north, is just as gorgeous as the west and southwest...it's just not on as grand a scale.
	8:56pm geezerette: Yeah, different kind of beauty.
	♥ 8:57pm coelacanth∅: i have to seek that out,g. i don't remember ever seeing it in color; but maybe i just don't remember. i didn't watch much tv as a child, and practically none now.
	8:59pm geezerette: UM, feeling good, enjoying the building holiday excitement. And you?...Cookie baking?
	9:01pm still b/p: How am I? I think eating too sparely and on a weird schedule for a few days on top of just a small taste of Smoking Bishop on Saturday night affected me for the worse for 3 days! Not as many sweeping vistas in this region, but some outstanding and dramatic ones. Up high in the Presidentials and on Katahdin, the notches and ravines, the drop-offs and faces and formations...the surroundings can be stirringly affecting, taking the breath, letting you hit sensory heights.
	9:03pm geezerette: Coel, Krazy Kat was a comic strip 100 years ago The Sunday funnies in color were collected in large format books at some poin, '80s or '90s I think. You can see some online.
	9:07pm geezerette: Amen to landscape. Slows down time, puts things in perspective.
	♥ 9:08pm coelacanth∅: well it's been 15 years since i've been out west. it's hard to compare. i was overwhelmed every time i traveled but then when i moved to upstate(ish) ny i was overwhelmed again.
	9:08pm geezerette: Like this show does!
	♥ 9:08pm Uncle Michael: I'm good. I might bake something this weekend. I'm also planning to try out a pressure cooker pho ga recipe.
	9:10pm geezerette: Wow! Like to hear how that goes.
	♥ 9:12pm Uncle Michael: Here, beat me to it! www.seriouseats.com...
	♥ 9:15pm coelacanth∅: i'm commissioned to make something for a potluck xmas and i know what i want to make but haven't made it in so long i think i might screw it up. (i also seem to be having trouble finding a suitable winter squash, weirdly.)
	9:18pm still b/p: Is there an art and science to pressure cooking prep and timing, or is it mainly boldness in lockin' 'er down and settin' 'er goin'? I made a turkey meatloaf for a gathering the other night. Two people thought it was soda bread or cake. One discovered the mistaken impression before eating, and one upon the eating. And, lo, there was surprise.
	9:20pm geezerette: U.M., thanks for posting that! We have a pressure cooker we've never used and my husband really wants to try it. That looks great! (Today he used a chainsaw, not for cooking. Or sculpture.)
	♥ 9:29pm coelacanth∅: i had a very good stainless steel pressure cooker, last i knew. it may have disappeared from my mother's attic by now, as things do. i mainly used it for beans to save energy and time but never got it down. they didn't seem to ever get the soft texture that beans must have to digest well. ...maybe i'll look for it when i'm there monday. i know more now than i did then.
	♥ 9:30pm Uncle Michael: SB/P, so far, all I've used a pressure cooker for is making stock.
	♥ 9:30pm Uncle Michael: chainsaws are fun
	9:32pm geezerette: haha!
	♥ 9:33pm coelacanth∅: they're all fun and games 'till someone loses a leg.
	♥ 9:34pm Uncle Michael: I do a lot of chainsawing around my place. And a huge, very old silver maple just dropped a major limb I'll need to get after.
	9:35pm still b/p: One mild day last winter, I was at the bottom of the ladder while a friend was at the top, without goggles, chaps or suitable gloves, bracing himself in and on the tree branches, precariously positioned with a leaning reach of the chainsaw to the target limb. I thought, "This is the kind of thing you read about..." " But we're both still here.
	9:36pm Jesse Kaminsky: You're still both on the tree?
	9:38pm still b/p: Bring sandwiches and hot thermos of spiked tea for us.
	9:39pm Jesse Kaminsky: OMW!
	♥ 9:40pm Uncle Michael: "without goggles" might be the dumbest part. Shit in your eyes is no fun.
	♥ 9:43pm gloomsday: hahaha!
	9:43pm still b/p: Knew a guy a few decades ago who'd lost an eye to a nailgun ricochet-back. Think of him often on spitting-tool and flying-debris jobs. But then still don't always get engoggled.
	♥ 9:44pm gloomsday: whoa, that sounds... very ouch.
	9:46pm Jesse Kaminsky: Spaulding Gray caused me to always wear goggles
	9:49pm coelacanth∅: I actually never wear goggles using a chainsaw, but I have glasses on. it's never been an issue. I won't do it without earplugs though.
	9:50pm coelacanth∅: (I always wear goggles using circular saws though)
	♥ 9:50pm Uncle Michael: I wear a helmet with a face screen and ear covers.
	9:53pm geezerette: Only way to do it.
	9:53pm Jesse Kaminsky: Project grizzly style?
	9:54pm coelacanth∅: I had ear covers. mice ate them! anyway the earplugs are rated better. ...and I don't ever get my face in line with a moving chainsaw. maybe that's why eye protection hasn't been an issue. -I sometimes think I should always wear long pants and a long-sleeved shirt though.
	9:54pm still b/p: For the love of god, put heavy gauge helmets on your snowmen! I thought this was faked when I saw the earliest shots in a version that starts with the blade-snout POV shot. Then the shred-shear-shit get real, man. www.youtube.com...
	9:55pm geezerette: Coel. that sounds like an album title!
	9:57pm geezerette: Thanks Jesse, great show! Good evening all!
	♥ 9:59pm Uncle Michael: Thanks Jesse and all you lumberjacks!
	9:59pm coelacanthØ: jeez it's over? Thanks Jesse! see y'all
	9:59pm coelacanthØ: and have a happy whatever
	10:00pm still b/p: A couple of nice starred pices. Thanks! The thing about flying debris from force and/or mechanical assist, like with car accidents: the physics of forces, vectors, impacts, ricochets and trajectories and results are the damndest thing...that we don't necessarily expect or can even accurately diagram afterward.
	♥ 10:00pm gloomsday: thanks so much, jesse! nice chatting with all y'all, tonight. <3
	10:00pm still b/p: starred "pieces"
	10:00pm Jesse Kaminsky: Night all, have a great week!

Neighbors Noise with Jesse Kaminsky: Playlist from December 19, 2017

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