WFMU: Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from November 9, 2016

Listener comments!
	7:01pm ndbob: Heya Gary and every one!
	♥ 7:02pm Gary: Howdy, Bob!
	7:04pm ndbob: I was really surprised particularly given how the after polls seemed to be shaping up
	7:05pm Dean: Surprised, but not head-spinningly so. Mr. Greenwald gets to the crux of the matter. I've been reading him for years, which prepares one for counter-media-intuitive phenomena like this. Also, recall Rep. Ellison's Sunday talk show appearance in July 2015. He called it then. The pundits laughed.
	♥ 7:06pm hyde: oh, damn. was there an election yesterday?!?!?!
	7:06pm Dean: I actually have this friggin' album, albeit sans brown paper wrapper.
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Hey Dean! Yes, and Michael Moore's prediction as well, I guess
	7:06pm ndbob: I realized a little after 8 when Florida was undecided - and turnout in Hillary areas was not what was expected
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Hyde! Yes, we voted unanimously for me to make more coffee :)
	♥ 7:07pm Gary: How many think Bernie would've won it?
	7:08pm ndbob: @Dean - I sure remember Ellison's appearance - I intensely dislike Moore and Greenwald tho
	♥ 7:08pm hyde: i think Bernie might have won it, but i dunno
	♥ 7:09pm SeanG: going to clicky star this show right now! love ya Gary
	7:10pm ndbob: interesting about that Hyde - I would have thought no way but know I'm thinking maybe he would have
	♥ 7:10pm Gary: @Dean, other than the CD that I picked up, I am not sure I've ever even seen a copy of this before
	♥ 7:10pm Gary: Awww, hey there, Sean!
	♥ 7:12pm Polyus: Hi Gary. I think Bernie wouldn't have had much chance. "Communist" (regardless of whether or not he actually is), plus Jewish atheist vs a guy running a practically naked anti-Semitic campaign.
	♥ 7:12pm melinda: hi everyone! humdinger of an election, eh?
	♥ 7:12pm Parq: Sigh. Hello, all. Let's make Bodega Pop great again.
	♥ 7:12pm Gary: Hey, Polyus! Howdy, Melinda!
	♥ 7:13pm Gary: Now that Bodega Pop has a Parq, it's great again
	♥ 7:13pm coelacanth: greetings Gary and Bodegasattvas
	7:13pm ndbob: Hi Melinda!
	♥ 7:13pm Gary: Coelacanth!
	♥ 7:13pm hyde: @Polyus the commie baiting thing is a fair point
	♥ 7:13pm melinda: I was feeling nervous about the outcome for a few days prior.
	♥ 7:14pm Gary: I admit I didn't feel as secure about it as I did 2008 & 2012
	7:15pm ndbob: @melinda I was a little uncomfortable for sure
	7:16pm Dean: I regret that Greenwald so viscerally turns people off. To my mind, he is among the most astute and incisive commentators. I'm less familiar with Moore, but that's because I'm not interested in film. Re: DJT as anti-Semite, see this remark by Brian Leiter: "Trump himself is a racist (more a casual racist, than an ideologically committed one), but he is not an anti-semite. But he has certainly emboldened the anti-semites, as well as the racists."
	♥ 7:16pm Polyus: Same here, I had a bad vibe early in the evening.
	♥ 7:17pm coelacanth: wow, even via laptop speakers the stereo separation is making me dizzy!
	♥ 7:17pm melinda: I think Bernie might have won, but not in the landslide some predicted. The Socialist Jewish atheist thing could definitely have worked against him. But the younger generation who was fired up by him generally doesn't think about the Cold War baggage associated with the term 'socialism'.
	7:18pm ndbob: I just find Greenwald smug - and wrong mostly - and right Trump isn't an antisemite but he emboldens antiSemitism
	♥ 7:18pm Gary: It makes no sense to me that people are freaked out about socialism. But, then, I was a wee lad during the cold war
	♥ 7:19pm coelacanth: i live in a bit of a bubble. most folks were sure hillary would win and scoffed when i said dump probably would.
	♥ 7:19pm Gary: I mean, what are people afraid other people are going to steal from them ... their crippling debt?
	7:20pm ndbob: @Gary because it's unfairly associated wiht Communism - and many see it as too restrictive of liberty
	7:21pm ndbob: I think socialism is good in areas like healthcare not good in other areas
	♥ 7:22pm melinda: @Bob: I agree that Trump isn't necessarily the anti-semite/racist he seems to be, but if he's willing to play the part, that's just as bad. If he starts sounding a different tune once in office that would be great, but I'm not counting on it.
	♥ 7:23pm hyde: @Dean i often like Greenwald's analysis and i think the Intercept in general is really good. but i am much less fond of Greenwaldian hyperbole.
	♥ 7:23pm Gary: The artist we're hearing now, Yang Fan, did the drawing to your left
	♥ 7:23pm melinda: I think Greenwald is a mixed bag.
	7:25pm ndbob: right Melinda - what I worry about is that if some of his poor economic ideas are implemented he will say something like "You know who's responsible folks"
	7:26pm ndbob: when they fail
	7:26pm Dean: Trump's electorate do not predominantly suffer from crippling debt. He fashioned his populism out of the myth that they do. I kind of get the "smug" characterization, but not fully. He is an activist attorney, and one trait attorneys acquire is a modicum of smugness. But wrong? Greenwald is one of the few journalists/pundits who actually marshals evidence for his argument, again a feature of being an attorney. Hyperbole, too, is essential to an attorney's rhetorical kit. Still, I don't read much of Greenwald as hyperbolic. I don't always agree with him--he reluctantly supported the outcome of Citizens United, for instance--but his tone to me sounds more sarcastic. Then again, I'm mixing his tweets with his more fleshed out articles.
	♥ 7:26pm hyde: @melinda Greenwald has a frothing at the mouth tendency that can be hard to take
	7:28pm northguineahills: Thanks, I was going to ask who did the art.
	7:28pm ndbob: maybe it's just that my perspective is really different than Greenwald's
	♥ 7:28pm Gary: NGH!
	♥ 7:29pm melinda: I would have to read more Greenwald to develop a fuller picture.
	♥ 7:29pm Gary: Title of piece (or series?) is "Bed Trip" -- so quite apropos!
	7:30pm northguineahills: Everyone down here in Trumpville was sure he was going to lose, but by last night everyone was smug. (while we're trending on that word)
	♥ 7:31pm hyde: @Dean fair, and we can agree to disagree about hyperbolic. i just personally find his tendency to go pretty over the top with his longform writing to be fairly offputting, even when i agree with him is all.
	♥ 7:32pm Parq: Why, is Waits really aggressive about take-downs for covers of his stuff?
	7:34pm Dean: Damn, I had ER's first two LPs back in the '80s. Probably paid a buck a piece. Unloaded them, along with a shit-ton of other good rock and pop, during a purge in the late '80s. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
	♥ 7:34pm melinda: I had planned on avoiding all election coverage Tuesday night, but of course that didn't happen.
	7:34pm Flash Strap: Hi Gary, Hi all. I'm in agony but it's nice to see your faces
	♥ 7:35pm melinda: Hi Flash! We're all 'processing' the election results.
	♥ 7:35pm Parq: As for the election, I've lived through this with Reagan (twice), I lived through this with Bush Senior, and I lived through it with Bush Jr (also twice). I'm just numb at this point. What could I possibly have left to say? What, other than a dull sense of hopeless disaffection, could I possibly have left to feel?
	7:35pm ndbob: i decided to try to sleep around 11 - but couldn't - got some sleep but mostly just laying there and checking for updates
	7:36pm Dean: Well said, Parq.
	7:36pm ndbob: Hi Evan!
	♥ 7:36pm Gary: Flash! So nice to see you! How are you enjoying your new town?
	♥ 7:37pm melinda: @Parq: it seems more dire to me than with Reagan and Bush, yet I'm managing to insulate myself somewhat from despair, out of necessity.
	7:38pm Jill B.: Hey Gary.What a f***ed up world we live in!
	♥ 7:39pm Gary: Mom! I (obviously) thought of you last night!
	♥ 7:41pm Parq: Melinda, yes, I know what you mean, but honestly, Reagan felt this dire to me back at the time. And Bush Jr. the second time didn't exactly feel like the apocalypse, but it sure did feel like as monstrous an insult to my intelligence and an affront to the idea of democracy as this does.
	7:41pm Jill B.: I think the USA seniors are now doomed. How could this have happened???????????
	♥ 7:42pm Gary: Mom, do you think Social Security will be on the chopping block?
	7:42pm Dean: c/o Brian Leiter's law school blog, this comment by a blog reader in response to yesterday: Reader Howard Berman, noting that Reagan ran on "hope," wrote: "Dread won the day. Maybe if Sartre were taught in kindergarten we'd be immune to all this."
	7:43pm ndbob: Yep - I see this as much worse than Reagan or the Bushes - I think Bush Sr turned out to be a pretty good president although the campaign that Atwater ran was vile
	♥ 7:43pm melinda: There is currently a massive anti-Trump protest in downtown Chicago right now.
	7:43pm Jill B.: Gary.....absolutely it will, as will all public pensions.
	♥ 7:43pm Gary: In New York as well
	7:44pm ndbob: @melinda I saw one in NYC
	7:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Emitt wigkey : en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 7:44pm Gary: RevRab!
	7:45pm Dean: Again c/o Leiter: "And still, if he moves, as he said he would, to repudiate existing trade agreements, and strengthen Social Security and Medicare, he will be on a collision course with the actual Republicans in Congress." The catch, of course, is that we have no basis for believing anything he says he would do.
	♥ 7:48pm melinda: @Dean: right. His anti-TPP stance was the only thing I agreed with in his campaign, but I don't trust that he actually gives a shit about any trade deal.
	7:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The fact that we won the Popular Vote & lost the Election - again - is too much. I say we bumrush the Inauguration.
	7:48pm ndbob: @Dean McConnell has already given some indication that he will oppose Trump at times - on term limits for example
	♥ 7:50pm Gary: My God, if I could erase any one senator's face from my memory, it would be McConnell's
	♥ 7:50pm Gary: 11/9 is the new 9/11
	7:51pm Dean: Yes, @ndbob, I'm wondering whether we might see some surprising shows of bipartisanship. We will always have the worms--Hi, Paul Ryan!--who pretended both to dislike and approve Trump, but many staunch right-wingers did a good job of feigning disgust with the guy.
	7:51pm ndbob: I support TPP I need to say - I think people need to keep in mind that it's wrong to use the same techniques the repubs used to interfere with the running of the system - you don't want a complete breakdown in government
	7:52pm ndbob: @Gary McConnell is a real pain but he might provide a buffer to some of Trump's bad ideas
	♥ 7:52pm Parq: so, sorry to go off topic, but Gary, I really am curious -- why was it necessary to change the name of the Waits song to keep it from getting knocked off the 'net?
	♥ 7:53pm Gary: Hey, Parq -- I am not sure it was necessary, but it appears that she may have, just given that she didn't seem to change the lyrics, just the title. Maybe she just had the willies about doing a cover w/out paying?
	7:53pm ndbob: @Dean I hope so - one reason I supported Hillary over Bernie is that she has a history of bipartisanship and he doesn't
	♥ 7:55pm Parq: One last thought and then I really gotta go home. I am looking forward with bitter, mirthless amusement to seeing all the GOP bigwigs who fought against Trump all year come crawling to him now. Good night all. As Dan Rather used to say, courage.
	♥ 7:55pm melinda: Really digging the Emitt Rhodes and Ketchup.
	7:56pm steve: good evening Gary and friends
	♥ 7:56pm Gary: Night, Parq! ... Melinda, yeah, I love the whole kind ersatz Beatles quality of both, so it seemed a natural fit
	♥ 7:56pm hyde: @Parq i thought it was Bert Lahr who said that
	7:57pm ndbob: Night Parq!
	♥ 7:57pm Gary: Steve!
	7:57pm ndbob: Have to go in a couple - going to stay in chat for a bit
	♥ 7:57pm Gary: @Hyde lol
	♥ 7:57pm melinda: Yes, nicely Beatle-ish.
	7:58pm ndbob: excellent show Gary!
	♥ 7:59pm Gary: You can get all of Ketchup's albums here: iamketchup.wixsite.com...
	7:59pm ndbob: I love Emitt's early groups - The Merry Go Round and The Palace Guard
	♥ 7:59pm Gary: Oh, night Bob! Thanks for the post-election talkin's
	8:01pm northguineahills: W000! The WFMU doc is on Netflix!
	♥ 8:01pm hyde: later, ndb!
	♥ 8:02pm melinda: Bye Bob!
	♥ 8:02pm Doug Schulkind: Love loves love. Good evening, Brother Gary.
	8:03pm steve: omg thats great news ngh!
	8:04pm northguineahills: gonna watch before sleep to get my mind off last night...
	♥ 8:06pm hyde: @ngh hmmm, i need to watch that
	♥ 8:07pm melinda: The WFMU doc arrived at Netflix right after I cancelled my membership! I'll rejoin in a few months.
	♥ 8:09pm Gary: Doug! Nice to see you!
	8:09pm steve: HUGE YAY for Pancakes!!
	♥ 8:09pm Gary: Whaa? Melinda, you mean streaming? That's terrific
	♥ 8:10pm Gary: Ah, I see NGH's comment above!
	♥ 8:12pm Gary: You're in for a treat, Steve -- I'm playing something from every album up to 2010 or so
	8:12pm steve: i still for some reason vividly remember discovering the Pancakes on Audiogalaxy in 2001
	♥ 8:14pm melinda: The Pancakes remind me a bit of the Raincoats.
	♥ 8:14pm Gary: I had to Google Audiogalaxy just now, Steve
	♥ 8:14pm Gary: I think what happened with Pancakes is that a label in Spain put out a collection? Maybe made up of select tracks from the first and second CD
	8:15pm northguineahills: I always wanted the Pancakes to play w/ the Japancakes....
	♥ 8:16pm Gary: Haw!
	8:21pm steve: haha
	♥ 8:22pm Gary: I thought I had more Pancakes queued up, but apparently this one is the last
	8:54pm Jill B.: Singing off dear Gary. Going to "lick my wounds" with a nice serving of coq au vin.
	♥ 8:55pm Gary: Night, Mom ... we'll talk soon!
	♥ 9:04pm melinda: We're all in this together.
	9:06pm steve: there's a nice old Roland Juno synth floating around Monty Hall which was once owned by R Stevie
	♥ 9:09pm Gary: Oh, wow -- I'll have to try and see it if I can!
	9:18pm Lauren: Thanks for the musical pick-me-up Gary! Peter says "see you at the sleep in!"
	♥ 9:19pm Gary: Lauren! Tell Peter I'll be in touch soon to ask about where to find music in Bangkok -- we're leaving in a few weeks!
	♥ 9:20pm hyde: @Gary oooh, jealous. mostly about the food!
	♥ 9:22pm Gary: We're going to be in Bangkok, Krabi, and the touring up and down Laos (Savvanakhet, Vientiane, Luang Prabang, and maybe Plain of Jars)
	9:22pm Lauren: How exciting! Will do!
	♥ 9:23pm Ike: Luang Prabang the best. Vang Viang is nice too. Vientiane is lame. Haven't been to Savvanakhet or the Plain of Jars.
	♥ 9:25pm Gary: Ike! I will research Vang Viang ... it's in the north, yeah?
	♥ 9:25pm hyde: @Gary bring back some music! ;)
	♥ 9:27pm Gary: I'm hoping to, Hyde! Hopefully enough for a whole show :)
	9:27pm northguineahills: Thanks Gary, digging the R. Stevie Moore, have a great night!
	♥ 9:29pm Gary: Night, NGH!
	♥ 9:38pm Ike: Yep, VV is in between LP and Vientiane. I took an insanely winding 7-hour bus ride through stunning mountain passes from VV to LP but I had a lot of time on that trip. VV is a little touristy but nice, but if you have limited time, maybe go w/more time in LP since LP is the best.
	9:44pm steve: i saw Chadbourne recently and picked up his insane new book "Dreamory" which is a 1200 (!) page collage of tour diary and dream diary. i'm about 100 pages in, great late night reading.
	♥ 9:46pm Gary: Oh, man -- that sounds awesome. I think I saw reference to it on his website
	♥ 9:48pm Doug Schulkind: Gary, do you have "LSDC&W: The History of the Chadbournes In America"? I have a terribly shitty MP3 version. Am dying for an upgrade.
	♥ 9:48pm hyde: @steve yowza
	♥ 9:51pm Gary: Doug! I do not ... I found 10 Eugene Chadbourne CDs last week at Academy Records, and that's all I've got -- they're all very recent things he's patched together and mailed out
	9:56pm steve: nite Gary and friends... and hang in there! we'll all get through this.
	♥ 9:56pm Gary: Night Steve!
	♥ 9:57pm hyde: thanks Gary!
	♥ 10:01pm coelacanth: Thank you Gary. Excellent as always. ...i've read most of the comments. i didn't feel the need or desire to share my thoughts, feelings...i apologise. ...it sucks. people in this country suck. i'm not leaving because this country needs me. tchau camaradas.
	♥ 10:01pm Doug Schulkind: Stupendous show, Gary.
	♥ 10:01pm Gary: Night everyone!
	♥ 10:01pm coelacanth: (and by me i mean us.)

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November 9, 2016: Bedroom Stars
John & Yoko, Yang Fan, Emitt Rhodes, Ketchup, The Pancakes, Animal Pharma, Yanka Dyagileva, R. Stevie Moore, Eugene Chadbourne.

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Music behind DJ: Bodega Pop	Intro	Bodega Pop Live	2016
John Lennon & Yoko Ono	Two Virgins (Side 1)	Two Virgins	1968	UK / Japan	0:04:41 (Pop‑up)
Yang Fan	The Fly Flies	What Happened after 1001 Nights?	2015	China \| https://genjingrecords.bandcamp.com/album/what-happened-after-1001-nights	0:18:51 (Pop‑up)
Yang Fan	Autumn in Your Town	What Happened after 1001 Nights?	2015	China	0:20:08 (Pop‑up)
Yang Fan	Chichi	[demo]	201X	China	0:23:19 (Pop‑up)
Yang Fan	All the World Is Joke	[demo]	201X	China \| Cover of Tom Waits' "All the World Is Green"	0:24:59 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ: Yang Fan	Arabian Night	What Happened after 1001 Nights?	2015	China	0:33:46 (Pop‑up)
Emitt Rhodes	Live Till You Die	Emitt Rhodes	1970	USA	0:34:28 (Pop‑up)
Ketchup	Where Is My Yoko?	Sweet Smelling	2001	Hong Kong	0:36:51 (Pop‑up)
Emitt Rhodes	Somebody Made for Me	Emitt Rhodes	1970	USA	0:39:24 (Pop‑up)
Ketchup	Blue Sky	Old-Fashioned Blue Sky	2003	Hong Kong	0:41:49 (Pop‑up)
Emitt Rhodes	Fresh As a Daisy	Emitt Rhodes	1970	USA	0:44:13 (Pop‑up)
Ketchup	Sleepy Life	Sweet Dream Is Over	2004	Hong Kong	0:46:54 (Pop‑up)
Emitt Rhodes	Promises I've Made	Emitt Rhodes	1970	USA	0:50:07 (Pop‑up)
Ketchup	Floating on the Sea	In Love Again	2005	Hong Kong	0:53:22 (Pop‑up)
Emitt Rhodes	With My Face on the Floor	Emitt Rhodes	1970	USA	0:56:58 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ: Ketchup	Heroes (Instrumental)	Where Is My Vocal?	201X	Hong Kong	0:59:58 (Pop‑up)
The Pancakes	Stupid Star	Les Bonbons Sont Bon	1999	Hong Kong	1:07:16 (Pop‑up)
The Pancakes	Patronage	Pancakes Can Panick	2000	Hong Kong	1:09:48 (Pop‑up)
The Pancakes	If I Had the Choice	Stereo Radio / Left	2003	Hong Kong	1:12:41 (Pop‑up)
The Pancakes	Mrs. Chamberlain	Stereo Radio / Right	2003	Hong Kong	1:16:26 (Pop‑up)
The Pancakes	Fake Bossa Nova	Everyone Has a Secret	2005	Hong Kong	1:19:21 (Pop‑up)
Animal Pharma	I Don't Look Like That No More	Blue Dot Black: A Past Life Regression	2014	Australia \| https://animalpharma.bandcamp.com	1:22:33 (Pop‑up)
Animal Pharma	Rose After Woman	Pantomeme	2014	Australia	1:25:05 (Pop‑up)
Animal Pharma	Organic Man	Zygoat	2014	Australia	1:28:34 (Pop‑up)
Animal Pharma	Milkyway Quintillion	The Vuuz	2015	Australia	1:29:45 (Pop‑up)
Animal Pharma	My Unborn Child	An Hero EP	2015	Australia	1:33:30 (Pop‑up)
Animal Pharma	If You Couldn't Pardon Me	If You Couldn't Pardon Me EP	2015	Australia	1:35:25 (Pop‑up)
Animal Pharma	I Hate Your Voice and Your Opinions	Light of a Hard Place	2015	Australia	1:39:22 (Pop‑up)
Yanka Dyagileva	Мы по колено (Up to the Knee)	Ангедония (Anhedonia)	1989	Russia	1:42:43 (Pop‑up)
Yanka Dyagileva	Домой! (Home!)	Домой! (Home!)	1989	Russia	1:44:32 (Pop‑up)
Yanka Dyagileva	Прийдёт вода (Pridet Water)	Стыд и срам (Shame and Disgrace)	1994	Russia	1:49:51 (Pop‑up)
Yanka Dyagileva	On a Rainy Day		1988	Russia	1:58:33 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ: R. Stevie Moore	In My Room	The North	1978	USA	2:01:09 (Pop‑up)
R. Stevie Moore	Goodbye Piano	Phonography	1976	USA	2:08:25 (Pop‑up)
R. Stevie Moore	I Wish I Could Sing	Stevie Moore Returns	1976	USA	2:10:39 (Pop‑up)
R. Stevie Moore	Once and For All	The North	1978	USA	2:14:44 (Pop‑up)
R. Stevie Moore	Cool Daddio	Delicate Tension	1978	USA	2:17:37 (Pop‑up)
R. Stevie Moore	I Like to Stay at Home	Glad Music	1986	USA	2:20:16 (Pop‑up)
R. Stevie Moore	Play Myself Some Music	Teenage Spectacular	1987	USA	2:24:22 (Pop‑up)
R. Stevie Moore	A Clever Combo (with the Breetles)	Tra La La La Phooey!	2004	USA	2:27:59 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ: Round Eye (ft. R. Stevie Moore)	Benny	We Are Shanghai III	2014	China / USA \| https://weareshanghai.bandcamp.com/album/we-are-shanghai-iii	2:31:54 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	The Balloony King #52049	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:36:31 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	Donna Lee Venture	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:37:27 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	The Last Word in Lonesome Is Me	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:38:14 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	German Radio	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:41:03 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	Willie the Pimp	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:42:17 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	Naima	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:45:32 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	Misty I Know You're Misty	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:52:54 (Pop‑up)
Eugene Chadbourne	Der Fuehrer's Face	The Chadbourne Luck, New Series	2016	USA	2:54:20 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ: Catrina Paslaru	Hei La Bodega	Hei La Bodega - Carnaval!	2000		2:56:29 (Pop‑up)

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Listener comments!
	7:01pm ndbob: Heya Gary and every one!
	♥ 7:02pm Gary: Howdy, Bob!
	7:04pm ndbob: I was really surprised particularly given how the after polls seemed to be shaping up
	7:05pm Dean: Surprised, but not head-spinningly so. Mr. Greenwald gets to the crux of the matter. I've been reading him for years, which prepares one for counter-media-intuitive phenomena like this. Also, recall Rep. Ellison's Sunday talk show appearance in July 2015. He called it then. The pundits laughed.
	♥ 7:06pm hyde: oh, damn. was there an election yesterday?!?!?!
	7:06pm Dean: I actually have this friggin' album, albeit sans brown paper wrapper.
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Hey Dean! Yes, and Michael Moore's prediction as well, I guess
	7:06pm ndbob: I realized a little after 8 when Florida was undecided - and turnout in Hillary areas was not what was expected
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Hyde! Yes, we voted unanimously for me to make more coffee :)
	♥ 7:07pm Gary: How many think Bernie would've won it?
	7:08pm ndbob: @Dean - I sure remember Ellison's appearance - I intensely dislike Moore and Greenwald tho
	♥ 7:08pm hyde: i think Bernie might have won it, but i dunno
	♥ 7:09pm SeanG: going to clicky star this show right now! love ya Gary
	7:10pm ndbob: interesting about that Hyde - I would have thought no way but know I'm thinking maybe he would have
	♥ 7:10pm Gary: @Dean, other than the CD that I picked up, I am not sure I've ever even seen a copy of this before
	♥ 7:10pm Gary: Awww, hey there, Sean!
	♥ 7:12pm Polyus: Hi Gary. I think Bernie wouldn't have had much chance. "Communist" (regardless of whether or not he actually is), plus Jewish atheist vs a guy running a practically naked anti-Semitic campaign.
	♥ 7:12pm melinda: hi everyone! humdinger of an election, eh?
	♥ 7:12pm Parq: Sigh. Hello, all. Let's make Bodega Pop great again.
	♥ 7:12pm Gary: Hey, Polyus! Howdy, Melinda!
	♥ 7:13pm Gary: Now that Bodega Pop has a Parq, it's great again
	♥ 7:13pm coelacanth: greetings Gary and Bodegasattvas
	7:13pm ndbob: Hi Melinda!
	♥ 7:13pm Gary: Coelacanth!
	♥ 7:13pm hyde: @Polyus the commie baiting thing is a fair point
	♥ 7:13pm melinda: I was feeling nervous about the outcome for a few days prior.
	♥ 7:14pm Gary: I admit I didn't feel as secure about it as I did 2008 & 2012
	7:15pm ndbob: @melinda I was a little uncomfortable for sure
	7:16pm Dean: I regret that Greenwald so viscerally turns people off. To my mind, he is among the most astute and incisive commentators. I'm less familiar with Moore, but that's because I'm not interested in film. Re: DJT as anti-Semite, see this remark by Brian Leiter: "Trump himself is a racist (more a casual racist, than an ideologically committed one), but he is not an anti-semite. But he has certainly emboldened the anti-semites, as well as the racists."
	♥ 7:16pm Polyus: Same here, I had a bad vibe early in the evening.
	♥ 7:17pm coelacanth: wow, even via laptop speakers the stereo separation is making me dizzy!
	♥ 7:17pm melinda: I think Bernie might have won, but not in the landslide some predicted. The Socialist Jewish atheist thing could definitely have worked against him. But the younger generation who was fired up by him generally doesn't think about the Cold War baggage associated with the term 'socialism'.
	7:18pm ndbob: I just find Greenwald smug - and wrong mostly - and right Trump isn't an antisemite but he emboldens antiSemitism
	♥ 7:18pm Gary: It makes no sense to me that people are freaked out about socialism. But, then, I was a wee lad during the cold war
	♥ 7:19pm coelacanth: i live in a bit of a bubble. most folks were sure hillary would win and scoffed when i said dump probably would.
	♥ 7:19pm Gary: I mean, what are people afraid other people are going to steal from them ... their crippling debt?
	7:20pm ndbob: @Gary because it's unfairly associated wiht Communism - and many see it as too restrictive of liberty
	7:21pm ndbob: I think socialism is good in areas like healthcare not good in other areas
	♥ 7:22pm melinda: @Bob: I agree that Trump isn't necessarily the anti-semite/racist he seems to be, but if he's willing to play the part, that's just as bad. If he starts sounding a different tune once in office that would be great, but I'm not counting on it.
	♥ 7:23pm hyde: @Dean i often like Greenwald's analysis and i think the Intercept in general is really good. but i am much less fond of Greenwaldian hyperbole.
	♥ 7:23pm Gary: The artist we're hearing now, Yang Fan, did the drawing to your left
	♥ 7:23pm melinda: I think Greenwald is a mixed bag.
	7:25pm ndbob: right Melinda - what I worry about is that if some of his poor economic ideas are implemented he will say something like "You know who's responsible folks"
	7:26pm ndbob: when they fail
	7:26pm Dean: Trump's electorate do not predominantly suffer from crippling debt. He fashioned his populism out of the myth that they do. I kind of get the "smug" characterization, but not fully. He is an activist attorney, and one trait attorneys acquire is a modicum of smugness. But wrong? Greenwald is one of the few journalists/pundits who actually marshals evidence for his argument, again a feature of being an attorney. Hyperbole, too, is essential to an attorney's rhetorical kit. Still, I don't read much of Greenwald as hyperbolic. I don't always agree with him--he reluctantly supported the outcome of Citizens United, for instance--but his tone to me sounds more sarcastic. Then again, I'm mixing his tweets with his more fleshed out articles.
	♥ 7:26pm hyde: @melinda Greenwald has a frothing at the mouth tendency that can be hard to take
	7:28pm northguineahills: Thanks, I was going to ask who did the art.
	7:28pm ndbob: maybe it's just that my perspective is really different than Greenwald's
	♥ 7:28pm Gary: NGH!
	♥ 7:29pm melinda: I would have to read more Greenwald to develop a fuller picture.
	♥ 7:29pm Gary: Title of piece (or series?) is "Bed Trip" -- so quite apropos!
	7:30pm northguineahills: Everyone down here in Trumpville was sure he was going to lose, but by last night everyone was smug. (while we're trending on that word)
	♥ 7:31pm hyde: @Dean fair, and we can agree to disagree about hyperbolic. i just personally find his tendency to go pretty over the top with his longform writing to be fairly offputting, even when i agree with him is all.
	♥ 7:32pm Parq: Why, is Waits really aggressive about take-downs for covers of his stuff?
	7:34pm Dean: Damn, I had ER's first two LPs back in the '80s. Probably paid a buck a piece. Unloaded them, along with a shit-ton of other good rock and pop, during a purge in the late '80s. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
	♥ 7:34pm melinda: I had planned on avoiding all election coverage Tuesday night, but of course that didn't happen.
	7:34pm Flash Strap: Hi Gary, Hi all. I'm in agony but it's nice to see your faces
	♥ 7:35pm melinda: Hi Flash! We're all 'processing' the election results.
	♥ 7:35pm Parq: As for the election, I've lived through this with Reagan (twice), I lived through this with Bush Senior, and I lived through it with Bush Jr (also twice). I'm just numb at this point. What could I possibly have left to say? What, other than a dull sense of hopeless disaffection, could I possibly have left to feel?
	7:35pm ndbob: i decided to try to sleep around 11 - but couldn't - got some sleep but mostly just laying there and checking for updates
	7:36pm Dean: Well said, Parq.
	7:36pm ndbob: Hi Evan!
	♥ 7:36pm Gary: Flash! So nice to see you! How are you enjoying your new town?
	♥ 7:37pm melinda: @Parq: it seems more dire to me than with Reagan and Bush, yet I'm managing to insulate myself somewhat from despair, out of necessity.
	7:38pm Jill B.: Hey Gary.What a f***ed up world we live in!
	♥ 7:39pm Gary: Mom! I (obviously) thought of you last night!
	♥ 7:41pm Parq: Melinda, yes, I know what you mean, but honestly, Reagan felt this dire to me back at the time. And Bush Jr. the second time didn't exactly feel like the apocalypse, but it sure did feel like as monstrous an insult to my intelligence and an affront to the idea of democracy as this does.
	7:41pm Jill B.: I think the USA seniors are now doomed. How could this have happened???????????
	♥ 7:42pm Gary: Mom, do you think Social Security will be on the chopping block?
	7:42pm Dean: c/o Brian Leiter's law school blog, this comment by a blog reader in response to yesterday: Reader Howard Berman, noting that Reagan ran on "hope," wrote: "Dread won the day. Maybe if Sartre were taught in kindergarten we'd be immune to all this."
	7:43pm ndbob: Yep - I see this as much worse than Reagan or the Bushes - I think Bush Sr turned out to be a pretty good president although the campaign that Atwater ran was vile
	♥ 7:43pm melinda: There is currently a massive anti-Trump protest in downtown Chicago right now.
	7:43pm Jill B.: Gary.....absolutely it will, as will all public pensions.
	♥ 7:43pm Gary: In New York as well
	7:44pm ndbob: @melinda I saw one in NYC
	7:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Emitt wigkey : en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 7:44pm Gary: RevRab!
	7:45pm Dean: Again c/o Leiter: "And still, if he moves, as he said he would, to repudiate existing trade agreements, and strengthen Social Security and Medicare, he will be on a collision course with the actual Republicans in Congress." The catch, of course, is that we have no basis for believing anything he says he would do.
	♥ 7:48pm melinda: @Dean: right. His anti-TPP stance was the only thing I agreed with in his campaign, but I don't trust that he actually gives a shit about any trade deal.
	7:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The fact that we won the Popular Vote & lost the Election - again - is too much. I say we bumrush the Inauguration.
	7:48pm ndbob: @Dean McConnell has already given some indication that he will oppose Trump at times - on term limits for example
	♥ 7:50pm Gary: My God, if I could erase any one senator's face from my memory, it would be McConnell's
	♥ 7:50pm Gary: 11/9 is the new 9/11
	7:51pm Dean: Yes, @ndbob, I'm wondering whether we might see some surprising shows of bipartisanship. We will always have the worms--Hi, Paul Ryan!--who pretended both to dislike and approve Trump, but many staunch right-wingers did a good job of feigning disgust with the guy.
	7:51pm ndbob: I support TPP I need to say - I think people need to keep in mind that it's wrong to use the same techniques the repubs used to interfere with the running of the system - you don't want a complete breakdown in government
	7:52pm ndbob: @Gary McConnell is a real pain but he might provide a buffer to some of Trump's bad ideas
	♥ 7:52pm Parq: so, sorry to go off topic, but Gary, I really am curious -- why was it necessary to change the name of the Waits song to keep it from getting knocked off the 'net?
	♥ 7:53pm Gary: Hey, Parq -- I am not sure it was necessary, but it appears that she may have, just given that she didn't seem to change the lyrics, just the title. Maybe she just had the willies about doing a cover w/out paying?
	7:53pm ndbob: @Dean I hope so - one reason I supported Hillary over Bernie is that she has a history of bipartisanship and he doesn't
	♥ 7:55pm Parq: One last thought and then I really gotta go home. I am looking forward with bitter, mirthless amusement to seeing all the GOP bigwigs who fought against Trump all year come crawling to him now. Good night all. As Dan Rather used to say, courage.
	♥ 7:55pm melinda: Really digging the Emitt Rhodes and Ketchup.
	7:56pm steve: good evening Gary and friends
	♥ 7:56pm Gary: Night, Parq! ... Melinda, yeah, I love the whole kind ersatz Beatles quality of both, so it seemed a natural fit
	♥ 7:56pm hyde: @Parq i thought it was Bert Lahr who said that
	7:57pm ndbob: Night Parq!
	♥ 7:57pm Gary: Steve!
	7:57pm ndbob: Have to go in a couple - going to stay in chat for a bit
	♥ 7:57pm Gary: @Hyde lol
	♥ 7:57pm melinda: Yes, nicely Beatle-ish.
	7:58pm ndbob: excellent show Gary!
	♥ 7:59pm Gary: You can get all of Ketchup's albums here: iamketchup.wixsite.com...
	7:59pm ndbob: I love Emitt's early groups - The Merry Go Round and The Palace Guard
	♥ 7:59pm Gary: Oh, night Bob! Thanks for the post-election talkin's
	8:01pm northguineahills: W000! The WFMU doc is on Netflix!
	♥ 8:01pm hyde: later, ndb!
	♥ 8:02pm melinda: Bye Bob!
	♥ 8:02pm Doug Schulkind: Love loves love. Good evening, Brother Gary.
	8:03pm steve: omg thats great news ngh!
	8:04pm northguineahills: gonna watch before sleep to get my mind off last night...
	♥ 8:06pm hyde: @ngh hmmm, i need to watch that
	♥ 8:07pm melinda: The WFMU doc arrived at Netflix right after I cancelled my membership! I'll rejoin in a few months.
	♥ 8:09pm Gary: Doug! Nice to see you!
	8:09pm steve: HUGE YAY for Pancakes!!
	♥ 8:09pm Gary: Whaa? Melinda, you mean streaming? That's terrific
	♥ 8:10pm Gary: Ah, I see NGH's comment above!
	♥ 8:12pm Gary: You're in for a treat, Steve -- I'm playing something from every album up to 2010 or so
	8:12pm steve: i still for some reason vividly remember discovering the Pancakes on Audiogalaxy in 2001
	♥ 8:14pm melinda: The Pancakes remind me a bit of the Raincoats.
	♥ 8:14pm Gary: I had to Google Audiogalaxy just now, Steve
	♥ 8:14pm Gary: I think what happened with Pancakes is that a label in Spain put out a collection? Maybe made up of select tracks from the first and second CD
	8:15pm northguineahills: I always wanted the Pancakes to play w/ the Japancakes....
	♥ 8:16pm Gary: Haw!
	8:21pm steve: haha
	♥ 8:22pm Gary: I thought I had more Pancakes queued up, but apparently this one is the last
	8:54pm Jill B.: Singing off dear Gary. Going to "lick my wounds" with a nice serving of coq au vin.
	♥ 8:55pm Gary: Night, Mom ... we'll talk soon!
	♥ 9:04pm melinda: We're all in this together.
	9:06pm steve: there's a nice old Roland Juno synth floating around Monty Hall which was once owned by R Stevie
	♥ 9:09pm Gary: Oh, wow -- I'll have to try and see it if I can!
	9:18pm Lauren: Thanks for the musical pick-me-up Gary! Peter says "see you at the sleep in!"
	♥ 9:19pm Gary: Lauren! Tell Peter I'll be in touch soon to ask about where to find music in Bangkok -- we're leaving in a few weeks!
	♥ 9:20pm hyde: @Gary oooh, jealous. mostly about the food!
	♥ 9:22pm Gary: We're going to be in Bangkok, Krabi, and the touring up and down Laos (Savvanakhet, Vientiane, Luang Prabang, and maybe Plain of Jars)
	9:22pm Lauren: How exciting! Will do!
	♥ 9:23pm Ike: Luang Prabang the best. Vang Viang is nice too. Vientiane is lame. Haven't been to Savvanakhet or the Plain of Jars.
	♥ 9:25pm Gary: Ike! I will research Vang Viang ... it's in the north, yeah?
	♥ 9:25pm hyde: @Gary bring back some music! ;)
	♥ 9:27pm Gary: I'm hoping to, Hyde! Hopefully enough for a whole show :)
	9:27pm northguineahills: Thanks Gary, digging the R. Stevie Moore, have a great night!
	♥ 9:29pm Gary: Night, NGH!
	♥ 9:38pm Ike: Yep, VV is in between LP and Vientiane. I took an insanely winding 7-hour bus ride through stunning mountain passes from VV to LP but I had a lot of time on that trip. VV is a little touristy but nice, but if you have limited time, maybe go w/more time in LP since LP is the best.
	9:44pm steve: i saw Chadbourne recently and picked up his insane new book "Dreamory" which is a 1200 (!) page collage of tour diary and dream diary. i'm about 100 pages in, great late night reading.
	♥ 9:46pm Gary: Oh, man -- that sounds awesome. I think I saw reference to it on his website
	♥ 9:48pm Doug Schulkind: Gary, do you have "LSDC&W: The History of the Chadbournes In America"? I have a terribly shitty MP3 version. Am dying for an upgrade.
	♥ 9:48pm hyde: @steve yowza
	♥ 9:51pm Gary: Doug! I do not ... I found 10 Eugene Chadbourne CDs last week at Academy Records, and that's all I've got -- they're all very recent things he's patched together and mailed out
	9:56pm steve: nite Gary and friends... and hang in there! we'll all get through this.
	♥ 9:56pm Gary: Night Steve!
	♥ 9:57pm hyde: thanks Gary!
	♥ 10:01pm coelacanth: Thank you Gary. Excellent as always. ...i've read most of the comments. i didn't feel the need or desire to share my thoughts, feelings...i apologise. ...it sucks. people in this country suck. i'm not leaving because this country needs me. tchau camaradas.
	♥ 10:01pm Doug Schulkind: Stupendous show, Gary.
	♥ 10:01pm Gary: Night everyone!
	♥ 10:01pm coelacanth: (and by me i mean us.)

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from November 9, 2016

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