WFMU: Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from December 17, 2024

Listener comments!
	👻 7:54pm Austin Rich: Good Hello
	👻 8:48pm Arvo Zylo: Hi Will be doing some punk rock cleaning and tidying... I'm not a huge fan of live recordings in general, but it will be nice to return to the digital salon nonetheless.
	👻 8:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @8:48 Hopefully this is more like being at a fun live show, but I understand how picky people can be about live music. I'll try to keep it fun!
	9:00pm Imaginos: Ahoy
	👻 9:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:00 Imaginos! Thanks for coming out to the Digital Salon, and the show, too!
	9:00pm Krys O.: Have a terrific show! Good night, all (said the tired ole lady)
	👻 9:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:00 Sleep well, Krys O!
	9:01pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:00 Slumber in joy
	9:01pm Mr. X: Ready to pogo.
	9:01pm Mr Fab: yo Austin! Punk really comes alive when it's, er, live. Sometimes it can be hard to capture that on record.
	9:01pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:01 I go Pogo
	👻 9:01pm Austin Rich: Mr. X! Hooray!
	9:02pm Mr. X: ↳ Imaginos @9:01 My dad had a copy of that when I was a kid. My brother and I wore it out.
	👻 9:02pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:01 I definitely have enjoyed many a live punk show, including The Weirdos...
	👻 9:03pm ramencity: On the first night of Punkmas, Austin gave to us.....
	👻 9:06pm Arvo Zylo: SWANS - Public Castration Is A Good Idea not punk rock but.... (although there are metoo issues now)
	👻 9:07pm Arvo Zylo: The Ramones sped up their songs live, although I never saw them live...
	👻 9:07pm ramencity: "Mozart: Live at Budokan!" (if only...)
	9:07pm Imaginos: Edge of Etiquette
	👻 9:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:07 Those live Ramones recordings are about half as long as they are on the albums.
	9:09pm Mr. X: Tons of great live material on Urgh! A Music War.
	👻 9:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:08 I try not to be redundant, but I do love The Ramones.
	👻 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:09 Oh yeah! I forget about that one. I need to get a copy of that.
	👻 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:07 The Star Trek IV song, yes?
	👻 9:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:07 He would have blown minds!
	9:10pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:09 Yes. I believe I once sent you the full version
	👻 9:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:10 I think you did!
	👻 9:11pm Arvo Zylo: Again with the metoo stuff, but GG Allin had some live recordings that were bordering on noise rock, with his voice being incredibly blown out.
	9:12pm Mr. X: Do Peel Sessions count? The Stiff Little Fingers Peel session is pretty good.
	👻 9:12pm Austin Rich: What I love about the Germs: you would never, EVER know that they have incredible lyrics if you only ever saw them live. You can barely hear him except when he growls.
	👻 9:12pm Arvo Zylo: And of course, The Screamers, because they had very little studio demos/recordings, most of their output was live (and posthumous).
	👻 9:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:12 A Peel Session will appear later in the show.
	👻 9:13pm ramencity: ↳ Mr. X @9:12 ooh - speakng of which, the Stiff Little Fingers "Hanx!" is a favorite live album
	👻 9:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:12 Some of those live shows are EPIC! There's video of a few floating around on YouTube, which sort of reveal how excellent they were as an act.
	9:14pm Mr Fab: Ramones live was like mainlining extasy into one's veins. I'm a bit of a fan!
	9:14pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr Fab @9:14 Saw 'em at least 3 times.
	👻 9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:14 My biggest regret: I never saw the Ramones. I always said, "Oh, there will be another time." And then on their last tour I didn't got. Sigh.
	👻 9:15pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:14 I'm jealous! My only oppurtunity to see Ramones was outside fests where they were pretty early in the bill with other commercial radio artists. Those fests are agony for me. But I regret not seeing them.
	👻 9:15pm Austin Rich: All of these "Live From The Masque" recordings are from 1978. And, humorously, not recorded at The Masque, merely at a benefit show for the Masque.
	9:15pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:14 The only time I saw them was in Rock and Roll High School
	👻 9:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:15 That movie is excellent! An early Joe Dante effort.
	9:16pm Mr Fab: Ha, I think there were at least 3 different songs about the Hillside Strangler. Guess everyone had the same idea at the same time.
	👻 9:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:16 I need to see that again as an adult. I recall hearing that it was going to be "Disco High School" but they decided to change it.
	👻 9:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:16 I thought there was another at least, but I forgot to look for it.
	9:18pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:16 The Magratheans weren't pleased with the music experiments
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:17 According to Joe Dante, when they first had the idea, Disco was big, so they started production that way. But soon they had the idea to connect with the Ramones.
	👻 9:18pm Arvo Zylo: I used to have some fun live VHS tapes of SUBHUMANS and Dead Kennedys.
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:18 Those poor mice...
	9:19pm Mr. X: Butthole Surfers Live PCP Pep is probably my favorite live punk release of all time.
	👻 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:18 Flipside? Or was there another direct-to-video live company?
	9:19pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 where the band Exploding White Mice got their name.
	👻 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Oh, damn! I forgot about that one!
	9:20pm Imaginos: I'm going to head to bed soon. I'm going to breakfast with one my sisters in the morning
	👻 9:20pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Good call! Forgot that one.
	👻 9:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "We're Desperate (Live)" by "X" X Played here in the Mid-Valley not long ago, so I've been listening to them a lot lately.
	9:20pm Mr Fab: just looked up "songs about the Hillside Strangler," and there's a lot more than three!
	👻 9:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:20 Sleep well! Have fun with your sister.
	9:21pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:20 I will
	👻 9:22pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:19 I do not honestly remember. Could look on discogs. Bought them from a distro at a show, black and white covers, maybe xerox, maybe not. There was also a record store in Chicago called Clubhouse next to the Metro that sold bootlegs. Had some stuff with Chaos UK and Vice Squad too...
	9:22pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:20 I was wondering if you made it to that show.
	👻 9:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:22 I did not! I have seen X at least four times, so I don't feel bad. But I would have loved to see them again.
	9:24pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:19 The Hole Truth... and Nothing Butt is also worthwhile, but it just goes on and on. PCPPep is a nicely concise EP.
	👻 9:25pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:24 There was at one point a lot of live Butthole Surfers recordings on archive org. I have listened to a number of them, always trying to hone in on their psychedelic / experimental aspects.
	👻 9:27pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "I'm OK, You're OK (Live)" by "The Dickies" I saw The Dickies once. The drums were too loud in the mix, and they didn't play The Killer Klowns song, but I had enough beer to enjoy myself anyway.
	👻 9:27pm Austin Rich: That early period for the Surfers was just incredible. I first saw them pretty late, but I still caught a couple "Gibby on drugs / cage dancers / medical films projected over them" shows, before they moved on to their more radio friendly / festival friendly stuff they did later. But those early albums... damn...
	9:28pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "I'm OK, You're OK (Live)" by "The Dickies" Might be worth mentioning for those too young to know, I'm OK, You're OK was the name of a popular self-help book from the 70s.
	👻 9:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:27 I was thinking it's about time to see Killer Klowns again. There's a little nostalgia there...
	👻 9:29pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:28 One of my very first recordings was an alternate soundtrack to that movie, recorded after several days without sleep.
	👻 9:30pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:28 I was trying to think of the other song that referenced that, but I did not know that.
	9:31pm Mr Fab: pronounced GAY-za X
	9:33pm David Shortell: ↳ Song: "Gimme A Little Pain (Live)" by "The Alleycats" Somebody once told he saw the Alleycats open for Rush over 40 years ago. They were very poorly received.
	👻 9:33pm Arvo Zylo: I said "facade" wrong for years because I hadn't heard it spoken... One thing about having a good vocabulary... it helps to speak with others who also have a good vocabulary.
	👻 9:35pm Arvo Zylo: The Stooges had some good live songs that never came to their albums. I remember one where Iggy was screaming at the crowd to stop talking for a long time...
	9:36pm Mr Fab: There's a great live Screamers video that Target Video released on VHS way back then. Done in the Target studio, so excellent audio quality.
	👻 9:36pm Arvo Zylo: There is also that Cramps video of them playing in a mental hospital, maybe punk adjacent...
	9:37pm Mr Fab: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:36 Ha, yes! One of the greatest things ever.
	9:39pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "The Day Everything Became Nothing / Dead Souls (L... It's weird being a Bob.
	👻 9:39pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "The Day Everything Became Nothing / Dead Souls (L... I've seen NOMEANSNO a few times, always great.
	👻 9:39pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The Day Everything Became Nothing / Dead Souls (L... If you don't like punk stuff, this might be a hard sell. But I think the performances on this album are just INCREDIBLE!
	9:40pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 but I'll get used to it. I'll have to!
	👻 9:40pm Arvo Zylo: All we had in common was good sex...
	👻 9:41pm Austin Rich: I see the Nomeansno fans are all in the salon tonight! I saw them several times, including on their last tour. They were just excellent live, and always had interesting bands opening for them.
	9:42pm Mr Fab: NYC had a club: CBGB. L.A. had a guy: Brendan Mullen.
	👻 9:42pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:42 He had, what? Four different clubs?
	👻 9:43pm Austin Rich: As a young man who fancied himself a bass player, I found Nomeansno essential listening. I could never play like this, but damn, I loved to listen to it.
	👻 9:43pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 And always cooped up in an old Volkswagen van...
	👻 9:45pm Austin Rich: I hope laurapanic is listening...
	9:46pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "(1 April 2024)" by "Laura Panic" Awww.
	👻 9:46pm ramencity: Come to America Laura!
	👻 9:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "(1 April 2024)" by "Laura Panic" There's tons of footage of laurapanic playing on YouTube. This song felt the most appropriate for this show.
	👻 9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" This might be the most seasonally appropriate record I play tonight. Recorded Live, at "The Met" (now known as Dante's Inferno) in Portland, OR, New Year's Eve, 1982.
	👻 9:50pm univac: Hello, all! Loving the music, Austin!
	9:50pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @9:42 The Masque got shut down after a couple years. But the Club Lingerie ruled Sunset Blvd for years. Saw many shows there. The Variety Arts Center - a multi-story space - was great for a while, in downtown. I saw a young Ice T there, among many others (e.g.: fIREHOUSE, opening for the Butthole Surfers). Then Johnny Depp brought Brendon back to Sunset for the Viper Room, another great spot. Speaking of the Butthole Surfers, Gibby could often be spotted singing with Mr Depp on bass, as Jeffrey Lee Pierce hung out at the bar. I met my wife there, on a night when Adam from The Counting Crows was bartending there for some reason.
	👻 9:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:50 univac! Nice to see you!
	👻 9:51pm Arvo Zylo: I always forget to see if there is anything on youtube of pre-Rollins Black Flag. Speaking of Target Video, wouldn't mind watching this one... www.discogs.com...
	👻 9:51pm univac: ↳ Mr Fab @9:50 Wow! Great story!
	9:51pm Mr Fab: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:51 "The Decline of Western Civilization"
	9:52pm David Shortell: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:18 Canadian Subhumans?
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" There are two live Wipers records. The OG one is from after they recorded Over The Edge, and I think might have been recorded while they were on tour in Europe, if memory serves. (Ramen City Kid: correct me if I'm wrong?) This album was recorded while they were still writing the songs that would end up on Over The Edge.
	👻 9:53pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:50 I've never been to LA. Wish I could time travel. Apparently that's where River Phoenix died, and also apparently Gibby sued for the rights to his recordings with Johnny Depp... So weird how that went down.
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:51 I second this one. The Black Flag footage in there is GREAT!
	9:54pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @9:50 Love that album that Gibby and Depp did, under the name of P. Great cover of a Daniel Johnston tune on that.
	9:55pm Mr Fab: ↳ univac @9:51 Thanks! It's weird how events that were just "hanging out with friends for the night" transforms into Important Cultural History over the years. Jeez, had I known, I would have saved more things, took more pictures, etc...
	9:55pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:53 Didn't know there was legal wrangling. Damn!
	👻 9:55pm Austin Rich: Since I grew up on the west coast, for some reason I have a real fondness for the west coast punk scene. But I also don't have a lot of live albums by NY bands, so that might be part of it, too!
	👻 9:55pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ David Shortell @9:52 I do like that one song by Canadian Subhumans (Slave To My Dick), but no, UK Subhumans.
	👻 9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:55 I think about this a lot. The people in an important moment don't know it. They're just living their lives.
	👻 9:56pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:51 Oh wow, yeah, looks pretty wild. www.discogs.com...
	9:56pm Hunterian: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" Certainly one of the greatest live bands I ever saw
	👻 9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:56 I found it on YouTube the other day. It's really good.
	👻 9:57pm univac: In 2008 Negativland opened for Butthole Surfers on New Years Eve at the Fillmore, SF. I was Negativland's sound guy during the 2000s so after I did sound for Negland, I got stupidly high and sat at the back stage right on the stage while it was filled with thick fog and Gibby was screaming just feet away. Crazy night.
	👻 9:57pm univac: www.youtube.com...
	👻 9:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Hunterian @9:56 Very jealous that you saw them live! That's excellent. I do a Wipers cover these days: "Now Is The Time."
	9:58pm David Shortell: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:55 Oh, them. They were in NJ last June.
	👻 9:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:57 I forgot about that! I remember you told me that story once.
	👻 9:58pm univac: ↳ Mr Fab @9:55 I totally get that...
	👻 9:59pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:55 Oh yeah, the Buttlhole Surfers sued for the rights to all of their stuff on the Touch & Go catalog, which led to the owner of the lable crushing all of the remaining copies in a trash compactor. Apparently once their one-hit-wonder status started to dwindle, they scurried to secure the rights to all of their work on smaller labels.
	👻 10:00pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ David Shortell @9:58 It's amazing that they're still around. I've seen Subhumans and Citizen Fish many times.
	👻 10:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:00 Some of those bands can't really quit, for financial reasons. I read an interesting interview with They Might Be Giants, where they talked about the financial reason why they have never stopped touring. The wouldn't make nearly as much money in a regular job. Touring is just worth it enough to keep doing it, but not really worth to QUIT doing it, for lack of another way to make that kind of income.
	10:04pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Hexenzsene (Live)" by "unwound" Trade Mark of Quality and Peel worked together?
	10:04pm David Shortell: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:15 I saw the Ramones countless times, mostly at City Gardens. But after Dee Dee quit, I saw him play 3 times at the small venue the Continental--and liked it better!
	👻 10:06pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ David Shortell @10:04 jealous!
	👻 10:08pm Arvo Zylo: I remember interviews with The Misfits, where they said that turnouts for their shows were fairly small, but those shows were mythologized anyway.
	👻 10:13pm univac: Digging this Austin!
	👻 10:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:08 Exactly. I saw video of some early Misfits show, and it looked like they were hanging out with their friends. Not much of a crowd.
	👻 10:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:13 Thanks! It was fun to get nervous in front of a crowd.
	10:15pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:02 Yet I saw them outside the Princeton Record Exchange on Record Store Day 2012 for free!
	👻 10:15pm Heather Z: Hey all right more Eleven-SixtyFours!! Been tuned in and loving the show!
	👻 10:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:15 I've seen 'em for free too. Sometimes it's hard to get a paycheck every time, no matter who you are.
	👻 10:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather Z @10:15 Thanks Heather. There's a cover song coming up that you may... not hate.
	👻 10:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ Austin Rich @10:16 (Not by me... by another band.)
	👻 10:18pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:16 Oo, I'm even more excited now!! Except I did hope it was you doing the cover!
	👻 10:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Violent Girl (Live)" by "The Bags" I'm not sure how much touring Alice Bag does now, but on the last tour she did, she would tour by herself, and get a pick-up band in each city, recruiting people from local punk bands to play her songs. A gal I knew in the band JJCnV got to play guitar for Alice Bag on that tour.
	👻 10:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The Happy Song (Live)" by "The Eyes" I think about this song every time I have to go to work.
	10:20pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:13 Was it the lineup with Bobby Steele? I occasionally see his band The Undead at various small NJ spots, though not since Covid.
	👻 10:21pm univac: Thnx for the Punx, Austin! Gotta run!
	10:21pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @9:51 I miss hearing Eugene saying "That's stupid. Punk rock. I don't - you know - I just think of it as rock-n-roll; because, that's what it is, you know."
	👻 10:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:20 It was something floating around on YouTube, many years ago. I'm sure there's not that much floating around.
	👻 10:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:21 Take care, univac!
	👻 10:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:21 I was thinking about taking different samples from those interviews. There's a lot of great interviews in that first Decline movie.
	👻 10:23pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Heather Z @10:18 Hi Heather!
	👻 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "One More Chance To Survive (Live)" by "The Alleyc... What I love about the early punk scene is that there where as many "rock and roll" bands that were just unpolished, and they were also "punk." But this song just sounds like rock and roll to me.
	10:24pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:19 She was scheduled to play at the Asbury Park Brewery in early 2020, but then--Covid!
	👻 10:24pm Heather Z: If I had to choose a fave live album (I'm late, I know), I think I'd chose Noise and Smoke by Little Jack Melody and his Young Turks. I got to see them live at the bar where it was recorded in Denton about 10 years ago, too! This time of year for their Xmas party. It was great..... Hi Arvo!!
	👻 10:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:24 I thought I remembered that. I'm sad I missed the last tour. I'm a sucker for her songs.
	👻 10:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Let's Get Rid of New York (Live)" by "The Randoms" Conversely, a band like this borders on noise rock.
	👻 10:33pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Side Effects Of Being Tired (Live)" by "unwound" When unwound was still a current band, The Ramen City Kid and I would go and see them often. I saw them at least five times with him back in the say, and now twice on their reuinion tours. While no one could ever replace their original bass player, I do enjoy the reunion shows quite a bit. There really wasn't a band like unwound, and now, kids love to try. But back then, it really felt like this was something unique and new.
	10:35pm laurapanic: YOU PLAYED WHAT NOW
	👻 10:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @10:35 Nice to see you in the Digital Salon!
	10:36pm laurapanic: i just got here!!!
	👻 10:36pm ramencity: ↳ laurapanic @10:35 😂
	10:37pm Mr. X: ↳ laurapanic @10:35 It sounded so great!
	10:38pm laurapanic: yeh a phone recording, I'm now trying to work out the song you played and if I'm horrified or not hahahaaaa!
	👻 10:40pm Heather Z: ↳ laurapanic @10:38 No horrified!! It sounded awesome!! So good!!
	👻 10:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @10:38 This is the one I played: youtu.be...
	👻 10:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Teenage (Live)" by "The Weirdos" This is like the punk version of Alice Cooper's "18."
	👻 10:46pm Heather Z: Yeahhh!
	10:47pm Mr. X: Somehow I knew this was a Bowie reference...
	10:48pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @10:44 oh, New Husband. Cool!
	👻 10:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:47 Famously, the Germs all met when Darby was stalking Bowie at a hotel in LA. It's likely Darby was gonna try to sleep with him, were he successful. (Darby didn't get anywhere near Bowie, but tried...)
	10:48pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:16 * this
	👻 10:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @10:48 Somehow I knew? (Really, I just liked the tune, and it seemed to go well after Nomeansno.)
	10:51pm David Shortell: ↳ Song: "Let's Pretend (Live)" by "Germs" I saw the Germs in Asbury Park in 2009. The singer was the actor who played Darby in the 2007 biopic.
	👻 10:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Four Truths And A Bass / Turning My Back On Today... Somehow, the only comment I got from one person at this show was, "So, you don't like Seinfeld? Huh."
	👻 10:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:51 I thought about trying to see that tour. It would have been interesting, anyway.
	10:52pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:51 Somehow I don't think "South Park" and "Seinfeld" had the same fanbase.
	👻 10:52pm ramencity: ↳ Austin Rich @10:48 Bowie was my mom and Darby was my dad
	10:53pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:51 Now you're on the Seinfeld Nazi's radar.
	10:53pm Mr Fab: I used to collect gig flyers off phone poles, bulletin boards - hardcore (Black Flag, Fear, etc) early college rock (Butthole Surfers, Sonic Youth)…and they got thrown away when I moved out of mom’s house. Cuz I’m an IDIOT.
	10:56pm Mr Fab: ↳ David Shortell @10:52 I watched em both. Probably the only comedies I watched in the ‘90s? (Well, along with “Beavis and Butthead” and “MST3K”)
	👻 11:00pm Arvo Zylo: I didn't hate Seinfeld or South Park. Too much of it started to feel a bit douchey, though. I think of it in terms of multiplicity. I don't want to watch more than one episode in a row. I don't generally like sitcoms.
	👻 11:01pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @10:53 The Soup Nazi episode was fun. The episode where the woman gives someone a fake number on the back of a sandwich card, but then tries to get the sandwich card back so that she can get the final points for a free sandwich... that was funny.
	👻 11:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Putnam County (Live)" by "Tom Waits" Every time I drive home from a bar, or drive home from my friend's house after drinking on his porch, I think of this song.
	11:02pm Hunterian: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" One of the greatest live acts I ever saw for sure
	👻 11:03pm Heather Z: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:00 I was one of those who willfully refused to watch Seinfeld so I've only seen a few eps when a friend "made me" watch. I didn't care for South Park at all but did watch that, path of least resistance and all. But I do like sitcoms!
	👻 11:03pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:02 I've been hearing lots of Tom Waits lately on the radio, more than usual. Hoping that's not a death omen. Walking alone in a city at night, I almost always think of "The Heart of Saturday Night", a perfect album in my opinion, although I don't need a dose of him too often these days. His histrionics can be enough every once in a while.
	11:04pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "Putnam County (Live)" by "Tom Waits" I was half listening when this song started and I thought it was Rolf from The Muppets. But respect to Waits.
	👻 11:04pm Heather Z: Night all! Thanks for a fun show, Austin!
	👻 11:05pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:04 They sort of serve the same cultural role in my life.
	👻 11:05pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Heather Z @11:03 Jerry Seinfeld practices the same kind of meditation that I do, so he gets a bit of sympathy from me.
	11:05pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @11:05 both are adorable
	11:06pm Mr. X: Great show, Austin! Thanks!
	👻 11:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:03 My mom used to listen to that album when I was a kid, and for years I thought that was his only album. When I moved out on my own I was surprised to discover that he had a lot of albums, and they were all great. But that one reminds me of my mom, because she really loved that one, and played it over and over when I was growing up.
	👻 11:06pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:04 You reminded me of Rolf Harris, another Australian...
	👻 11:07pm Austin Rich: I just have a hard time relating to the kinds of comedy in sitcoms. I can get into some English stuff, but I find the comedy I like to be pretty dark.
	11:07pm David Shortell: ↳ laurapanic @11:04 Rowlf should've hosted the Muppet Show, not Kermit.
	👻 11:07pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:07 I find most sitcoms irritating, to be sure.
	👻 11:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @11:07 Insightful! And certainly controversial. But I think I agree. Kermit would have made a better stage manager / occasional performer.
	👻 11:08pm Austin Rich: You can hear some pops, but fortunately, this record hasn't started skipping yet.
	👻 11:08pm Arvo Zylo: Benny Hill was always charming.
	👻 11:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:08 That's a little closer to my style. Monty Python, Black Adder. That's the kind of comedy that really speaks to me.
	11:10pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:06 we don't talk about him anymore
	👻 11:10pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:10 I remember hearing that he was a jerk, but didn't look into it...
	👻 11:11pm Austin Rich: Thanks everyone! I had a great time pretending to be at another live show again...
	11:11pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:10 sexual predator, was jailed
	11:11pm laurapanic: ↳ laurapanic @11:11 or definitely charged....
	👻 11:11pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:11 oops. sorry!
	👻 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Keep Dancing (Live)" by "The Eleven-SixtyFours" My ode to Reg & Dom from Max Headroom.

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from December 17, 2024

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A combination of collage, new experimental records and other bits and bobs, Mid-Valley Mutations is a tour through the mind of Austin Rich, who has been broadcasting in some form since 1998. Heavily influenced by Dr Demento, Don Joyce and old fashioned College Radio, Austin creates Audio Essays on a variety of subjects, and even just plays records, from time to time. Sometimes Live music and Interviews will grace the program, helping create a situation where you don't really know what you're going to hear, when you tune in. What you need to know is when you enter the Mid-Valley region, be prepared for the Musical Mutations... in whatever form they take.

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December 17, 2024: Punk For X-Mas, Week 2

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
Hour 1 "Hour 1"
Short Songs "Short Songs"
The Eleven-SixtyFours	Another One (Live)	Live At Salem On The Edge 13 December 2024	WTBC Records	2024
The Weirdos	Destroy All Music (Live)	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	0:01:10 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Ventures	Driving Guitars (Live)	Ventures In Japan	Liberty	1967	0:02:50 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Strangled For Your Own Good "Strangled For Your Own Good"
The Bags	TV Dinner (Live) "TV Dinner (Live)" by "The Bags"	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	0:09:01 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Germs	Let's Pretend (Live) "Let's Pretend (Live)" by "Germs"	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	0:10:45 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Skulls	Victims (Live) "Victims (Live)" by "The Skulls"	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	0:13:45 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
F-Word	Hillside Strangler (Live) "Hillside Strangler (Live)" by "F-Word"	Live From The Masque - Wewecancandodowhatwhatwewe Wanna Do (Vol. 2)	Year One Records	1996	0:15:51 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Alleycats	Gimme A Little Pain (Live)	Live From The Masque - Wewecancandodowhatwhatwewe Wanna Do (Vol. 2)	Year One Records	1996	0:17:56 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
X	We're Desperate (Live) "We're Desperate (Live)" by "X"	Live From The Masque - Wewecancandodowhatwhatwewe Wanna Do (Vol. 2)	Year One Records	1996	0:20:46 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Zeros	Lay Off She's Mine (Live)	Live From The Masque - Wewecancandodowhatwhatwewe Wanna Do (Vol. 2)	Year One Records	1996	0:22:55 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Eyes	Take That Quaalude Now (Live)	Live From The Masque - Dicks Fight Banks Hate (Vol. 3)	Year One Records	1996	0:24:22 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Dickies	I'm OK, You're OK (Live)	Live From The Masque - Dicks Fight Banks Hate (Vol. 3)	Year One Records	1996	0:26:59 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Eleven-SixtyFours	Ballad (On The Chin) (Live)	Live At Salem On The Edge 13 December 2024	WTBC Records	2024	0:29:18 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Ventures	Medley: Walk Don't Run / Perfidy / Lullaby of The Leaves (Live)	Ventures In Japan	Liberty	1967	0:30:35 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Nightmare Machines "Nightmare Machines"
Nomeansno	The Day Everything Became Nothing / Dead Souls (Live)	Live & Cuddly	Alternative Tentacles	1991	0:39:50 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Laura Panic	(1 April 2024) "(1 April 2024)" by "Laura Panic"	1 April 2024	YouTube	2024	0:46:03 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Wipers	Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)	Live At The Met, December 31, 1982	Jackpot Records	2018	0:49:17 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Eleven-SixtyFours	The Edge of A Knife (Live)	Live At Salem On The Edge 13 December 2024	WTBC Records	2024	0:57:16 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
unwound	Hexenzsene (Live) "Hexenzsene (Live)" by "unwound"	Live In London (Peel Sessions)	LoveLetter	1999	1:00:10 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Ventures	Pipeline (Live) "Pipeline (Live)" by "The Ventures"	Ventures In Japan	Liberty	1967	1:05:20 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Hour 2 "Hour 2"
We're All Human! "We're All Human!"
The Eleven-SixtyFours	Fashion At The End of The World (Live)	Live At Salem On The Edge 13 December 2024	WTBC Records	2024	1:13:31 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
X	Los Angeles (Live) "Los Angeles (Live)" by "X"	Live From The Masque - Wewecancandodowhatwhatwewe Wanna Do (Vol. 2)	Year One Records	1996	1:15:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Bags	Violent Girl (Live) "Violent Girl (Live)" by "The Bags"	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	1:17:56 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Eyes	The Happy Song (Live) "The Happy Song (Live)" by "The Eyes"	Live From The Masque - Dicks Fight Banks Hate (Vol. 3)	Year One Records	1996	1:20:10 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Alleycats	One More Chance To Survive (Live)	Live From The Masque - Wewecancandodowhatwhatwewe Wanna Do (Vol. 2)	Year One Records	1996	1:22:53 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Zeros	Cosmetic Couple (Live) "Cosmetic Couple (Live)" by "The Zeros"	Live From The Masque - Wewecancandodowhatwhatwewe Wanna Do (Vol. 2)	Year One Records	1996	1:25:31 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Randoms	Let's Get Rid of New York (Live)	Live From The Masque - Dicks Fight Banks Hate (Vol. 3)	Year One Records	1996	1:27:23 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
unwound	Side Effects Of Being Tired (Live)	Live In London (Peel Sessions)	LoveLetter	1999	1:30:41 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Ventures	Bulldog (Live) "Bulldog (Live)" by "The Ventures"	Ventures In Japan	Liberty	1967	1:37:05 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Yesterday Was Never Really That Good "Yesterday Was Never Really That Good"
The Weirdos	Teenage (Live) "Teenage (Live)" by "The Weirdos"	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	1:44:20 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Germs	Hang On To Yourself (Live) "Hang On To Yourself (Live)" by "Germs"	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	1:46:55 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Bags	Animal Call (Live) "Animal Call (Live)" by "The Bags"	Live From The Masque - Forming (Vol. 1)	Year One Records	1996	1:49:39 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Eleven-SixtyFours	Four Truths And A Bass / Turning My Back On Today (Live)	Live At Salem On The Edge 13 December 2024	WTBC Records	2024	1:51:49 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Ventures	Apache (Live) "Apache (Live)" by "The Ventures"	Ventures In Japan	Liberty	1967	1:54:37 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Tom Waits	Putnam County (Live) "Putnam County (Live)" by "Tom Waits"	Nighthawks At The Diner	Asylum Records	1975	2:02:23 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Shadows In Blue	Mid-Valley Mutations Ending Theme	Mid-Valley Mutations Ending Theme	Self-Released	2024	2:10:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Eleven-SixtyFours	Keep Dancing (Live)	Live At Salem On The Edge 13 December 2024	WTBC Records	2024	2:12:37 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	👻 7:54pm Austin Rich: Good Hello
	👻 8:48pm Arvo Zylo: Hi Will be doing some punk rock cleaning and tidying... I'm not a huge fan of live recordings in general, but it will be nice to return to the digital salon nonetheless.
	👻 8:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @8:48 Hopefully this is more like being at a fun live show, but I understand how picky people can be about live music. I'll try to keep it fun!
	9:00pm Imaginos: Ahoy
	👻 9:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:00 Imaginos! Thanks for coming out to the Digital Salon, and the show, too!
	9:00pm Krys O.: Have a terrific show! Good night, all (said the tired ole lady)
	👻 9:01pm Austin Rich: ↳ Krys O. @9:00 Sleep well, Krys O!
	9:01pm Imaginos: ↳ Krys O. @9:00 Slumber in joy
	9:01pm Mr. X: Ready to pogo.
	9:01pm Mr Fab: yo Austin! Punk really comes alive when it's, er, live. Sometimes it can be hard to capture that on record.
	9:01pm Imaginos: ↳ Mr. X @9:01 I go Pogo
	👻 9:01pm Austin Rich: Mr. X! Hooray!
	9:02pm Mr. X: ↳ Imaginos @9:01 My dad had a copy of that when I was a kid. My brother and I wore it out.
	👻 9:02pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:01 I definitely have enjoyed many a live punk show, including The Weirdos...
	👻 9:03pm ramencity: On the first night of Punkmas, Austin gave to us.....
	👻 9:06pm Arvo Zylo: SWANS - Public Castration Is A Good Idea not punk rock but.... (although there are metoo issues now)
	👻 9:07pm Arvo Zylo: The Ramones sped up their songs live, although I never saw them live...
	👻 9:07pm ramencity: "Mozart: Live at Budokan!" (if only...)
	9:07pm Imaginos: Edge of Etiquette
	👻 9:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:07 Those live Ramones recordings are about half as long as they are on the albums.
	9:09pm Mr. X: Tons of great live material on Urgh! A Music War.
	👻 9:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:08 I try not to be redundant, but I do love The Ramones.
	👻 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:09 Oh yeah! I forget about that one. I need to get a copy of that.
	👻 9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:07 The Star Trek IV song, yes?
	👻 9:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @9:07 He would have blown minds!
	9:10pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:09 Yes. I believe I once sent you the full version
	👻 9:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:10 I think you did!
	👻 9:11pm Arvo Zylo: Again with the metoo stuff, but GG Allin had some live recordings that were bordering on noise rock, with his voice being incredibly blown out.
	9:12pm Mr. X: Do Peel Sessions count? The Stiff Little Fingers Peel session is pretty good.
	👻 9:12pm Austin Rich: What I love about the Germs: you would never, EVER know that they have incredible lyrics if you only ever saw them live. You can barely hear him except when he growls.
	👻 9:12pm Arvo Zylo: And of course, The Screamers, because they had very little studio demos/recordings, most of their output was live (and posthumous).
	👻 9:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:12 A Peel Session will appear later in the show.
	👻 9:13pm ramencity: ↳ Mr. X @9:12 ooh - speakng of which, the Stiff Little Fingers "Hanx!" is a favorite live album
	👻 9:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:12 Some of those live shows are EPIC! There's video of a few floating around on YouTube, which sort of reveal how excellent they were as an act.
	9:14pm Mr Fab: Ramones live was like mainlining extasy into one's veins. I'm a bit of a fan!
	9:14pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr Fab @9:14 Saw 'em at least 3 times.
	👻 9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:14 My biggest regret: I never saw the Ramones. I always said, "Oh, there will be another time." And then on their last tour I didn't got. Sigh.
	👻 9:15pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:14 I'm jealous! My only oppurtunity to see Ramones was outside fests where they were pretty early in the bill with other commercial radio artists. Those fests are agony for me. But I regret not seeing them.
	👻 9:15pm Austin Rich: All of these "Live From The Masque" recordings are from 1978. And, humorously, not recorded at The Masque, merely at a benefit show for the Masque.
	9:15pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:14 The only time I saw them was in Rock and Roll High School
	👻 9:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:15 That movie is excellent! An early Joe Dante effort.
	9:16pm Mr Fab: Ha, I think there were at least 3 different songs about the Hillside Strangler. Guess everyone had the same idea at the same time.
	👻 9:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:16 I need to see that again as an adult. I recall hearing that it was going to be "Disco High School" but they decided to change it.
	👻 9:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:16 I thought there was another at least, but I forgot to look for it.
	9:18pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:16 The Magratheans weren't pleased with the music experiments
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:17 According to Joe Dante, when they first had the idea, Disco was big, so they started production that way. But soon they had the idea to connect with the Ramones.
	👻 9:18pm Arvo Zylo: I used to have some fun live VHS tapes of SUBHUMANS and Dead Kennedys.
	👻 9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:18 Those poor mice...
	9:19pm Mr. X: Butthole Surfers Live PCP Pep is probably my favorite live punk release of all time.
	👻 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:18 Flipside? Or was there another direct-to-video live company?
	9:19pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 where the band Exploding White Mice got their name.
	👻 9:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Oh, damn! I forgot about that one!
	9:20pm Imaginos: I'm going to head to bed soon. I'm going to breakfast with one my sisters in the morning
	👻 9:20pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Good call! Forgot that one.
	👻 9:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "We're Desperate (Live)" by "X" X Played here in the Mid-Valley not long ago, so I've been listening to them a lot lately.
	9:20pm Mr Fab: just looked up "songs about the Hillside Strangler," and there's a lot more than three!
	👻 9:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:20 Sleep well! Have fun with your sister.
	9:21pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:20 I will
	👻 9:22pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:19 I do not honestly remember. Could look on discogs. Bought them from a distro at a show, black and white covers, maybe xerox, maybe not. There was also a record store in Chicago called Clubhouse next to the Metro that sold bootlegs. Had some stuff with Chaos UK and Vice Squad too...
	9:22pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:20 I was wondering if you made it to that show.
	👻 9:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @9:22 I did not! I have seen X at least four times, so I don't feel bad. But I would have loved to see them again.
	9:24pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @9:19 The Hole Truth... and Nothing Butt is also worthwhile, but it just goes on and on. PCPPep is a nicely concise EP.
	👻 9:25pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:24 There was at one point a lot of live Butthole Surfers recordings on archive org. I have listened to a number of them, always trying to hone in on their psychedelic / experimental aspects.
	👻 9:27pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "I'm OK, You're OK (Live)" by "The Dickies" I saw The Dickies once. The drums were too loud in the mix, and they didn't play The Killer Klowns song, but I had enough beer to enjoy myself anyway.
	👻 9:27pm Austin Rich: That early period for the Surfers was just incredible. I first saw them pretty late, but I still caught a couple "Gibby on drugs / cage dancers / medical films projected over them" shows, before they moved on to their more radio friendly / festival friendly stuff they did later. But those early albums... damn...
	9:28pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "I'm OK, You're OK (Live)" by "The Dickies" Might be worth mentioning for those too young to know, I'm OK, You're OK was the name of a popular self-help book from the 70s.
	👻 9:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:27 I was thinking it's about time to see Killer Klowns again. There's a little nostalgia there...
	👻 9:29pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:28 One of my very first recordings was an alternate soundtrack to that movie, recorded after several days without sleep.
	👻 9:30pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:28 I was trying to think of the other song that referenced that, but I did not know that.
	9:31pm Mr Fab: pronounced GAY-za X
	9:33pm David Shortell: ↳ Song: "Gimme A Little Pain (Live)" by "The Alleycats" Somebody once told he saw the Alleycats open for Rush over 40 years ago. They were very poorly received.
	👻 9:33pm Arvo Zylo: I said "facade" wrong for years because I hadn't heard it spoken... One thing about having a good vocabulary... it helps to speak with others who also have a good vocabulary.
	👻 9:35pm Arvo Zylo: The Stooges had some good live songs that never came to their albums. I remember one where Iggy was screaming at the crowd to stop talking for a long time...
	9:36pm Mr Fab: There's a great live Screamers video that Target Video released on VHS way back then. Done in the Target studio, so excellent audio quality.
	👻 9:36pm Arvo Zylo: There is also that Cramps video of them playing in a mental hospital, maybe punk adjacent...
	9:37pm Mr Fab: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:36 Ha, yes! One of the greatest things ever.
	9:39pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "The Day Everything Became Nothing / Dead Souls (L... It's weird being a Bob.
	👻 9:39pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "The Day Everything Became Nothing / Dead Souls (L... I've seen NOMEANSNO a few times, always great.
	👻 9:39pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The Day Everything Became Nothing / Dead Souls (L... If you don't like punk stuff, this might be a hard sell. But I think the performances on this album are just INCREDIBLE!
	9:40pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @9:39 but I'll get used to it. I'll have to!
	👻 9:40pm Arvo Zylo: All we had in common was good sex...
	👻 9:41pm Austin Rich: I see the Nomeansno fans are all in the salon tonight! I saw them several times, including on their last tour. They were just excellent live, and always had interesting bands opening for them.
	9:42pm Mr Fab: NYC had a club: CBGB. L.A. had a guy: Brendan Mullen.
	👻 9:42pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:42 He had, what? Four different clubs?
	👻 9:43pm Austin Rich: As a young man who fancied himself a bass player, I found Nomeansno essential listening. I could never play like this, but damn, I loved to listen to it.
	👻 9:43pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 And always cooped up in an old Volkswagen van...
	👻 9:45pm Austin Rich: I hope laurapanic is listening...
	9:46pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "(1 April 2024)" by "Laura Panic" Awww.
	👻 9:46pm ramencity: Come to America Laura!
	👻 9:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "(1 April 2024)" by "Laura Panic" There's tons of footage of laurapanic playing on YouTube. This song felt the most appropriate for this show.
	👻 9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" This might be the most seasonally appropriate record I play tonight. Recorded Live, at "The Met" (now known as Dante's Inferno) in Portland, OR, New Year's Eve, 1982.
	👻 9:50pm univac: Hello, all! Loving the music, Austin!
	9:50pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @9:42 The Masque got shut down after a couple years. But the Club Lingerie ruled Sunset Blvd for years. Saw many shows there. The Variety Arts Center - a multi-story space - was great for a while, in downtown. I saw a young Ice T there, among many others (e.g.: fIREHOUSE, opening for the Butthole Surfers). Then Johnny Depp brought Brendon back to Sunset for the Viper Room, another great spot. Speaking of the Butthole Surfers, Gibby could often be spotted singing with Mr Depp on bass, as Jeffrey Lee Pierce hung out at the bar. I met my wife there, on a night when Adam from The Counting Crows was bartending there for some reason.
	👻 9:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:50 univac! Nice to see you!
	👻 9:51pm Arvo Zylo: I always forget to see if there is anything on youtube of pre-Rollins Black Flag. Speaking of Target Video, wouldn't mind watching this one... www.discogs.com...
	👻 9:51pm univac: ↳ Mr Fab @9:50 Wow! Great story!
	9:51pm Mr Fab: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:51 "The Decline of Western Civilization"
	9:52pm David Shortell: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:18 Canadian Subhumans?
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" There are two live Wipers records. The OG one is from after they recorded Over The Edge, and I think might have been recorded while they were on tour in Europe, if memory serves. (Ramen City Kid: correct me if I'm wrong?) This album was recorded while they were still writing the songs that would end up on Over The Edge.
	👻 9:53pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:50 I've never been to LA. Wish I could time travel. Apparently that's where River Phoenix died, and also apparently Gibby sued for the rights to his recordings with Johnny Depp... So weird how that went down.
	👻 9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:51 I second this one. The Black Flag footage in there is GREAT!
	9:54pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @9:50 Love that album that Gibby and Depp did, under the name of P. Great cover of a Daniel Johnston tune on that.
	9:55pm Mr Fab: ↳ univac @9:51 Thanks! It's weird how events that were just "hanging out with friends for the night" transforms into Important Cultural History over the years. Jeez, had I known, I would have saved more things, took more pictures, etc...
	9:55pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:53 Didn't know there was legal wrangling. Damn!
	👻 9:55pm Austin Rich: Since I grew up on the west coast, for some reason I have a real fondness for the west coast punk scene. But I also don't have a lot of live albums by NY bands, so that might be part of it, too!
	👻 9:55pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ David Shortell @9:52 I do like that one song by Canadian Subhumans (Slave To My Dick), but no, UK Subhumans.
	👻 9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:55 I think about this a lot. The people in an important moment don't know it. They're just living their lives.
	👻 9:56pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr Fab @9:51 Oh wow, yeah, looks pretty wild. www.discogs.com...
	9:56pm Hunterian: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" Certainly one of the greatest live bands I ever saw
	👻 9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:56 I found it on YouTube the other day. It's really good.
	👻 9:57pm univac: In 2008 Negativland opened for Butthole Surfers on New Years Eve at the Fillmore, SF. I was Negativland's sound guy during the 2000s so after I did sound for Negland, I got stupidly high and sat at the back stage right on the stage while it was filled with thick fog and Gibby was screaming just feet away. Crazy night.
	👻 9:57pm univac: www.youtube.com...
	👻 9:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Hunterian @9:56 Very jealous that you saw them live! That's excellent. I do a Wipers cover these days: "Now Is The Time."
	9:58pm David Shortell: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:55 Oh, them. They were in NJ last June.
	👻 9:58pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @9:57 I forgot about that! I remember you told me that story once.
	👻 9:58pm univac: ↳ Mr Fab @9:55 I totally get that...
	👻 9:59pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @9:55 Oh yeah, the Buttlhole Surfers sued for the rights to all of their stuff on the Touch & Go catalog, which led to the owner of the lable crushing all of the remaining copies in a trash compactor. Apparently once their one-hit-wonder status started to dwindle, they scurried to secure the rights to all of their work on smaller labels.
	👻 10:00pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ David Shortell @9:58 It's amazing that they're still around. I've seen Subhumans and Citizen Fish many times.
	👻 10:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:00 Some of those bands can't really quit, for financial reasons. I read an interesting interview with They Might Be Giants, where they talked about the financial reason why they have never stopped touring. The wouldn't make nearly as much money in a regular job. Touring is just worth it enough to keep doing it, but not really worth to QUIT doing it, for lack of another way to make that kind of income.
	10:04pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "Hexenzsene (Live)" by "unwound" Trade Mark of Quality and Peel worked together?
	10:04pm David Shortell: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:15 I saw the Ramones countless times, mostly at City Gardens. But after Dee Dee quit, I saw him play 3 times at the small venue the Continental--and liked it better!
	👻 10:06pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ David Shortell @10:04 jealous!
	👻 10:08pm Arvo Zylo: I remember interviews with The Misfits, where they said that turnouts for their shows were fairly small, but those shows were mythologized anyway.
	👻 10:13pm univac: Digging this Austin!
	👻 10:13pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:08 Exactly. I saw video of some early Misfits show, and it looked like they were hanging out with their friends. Not much of a crowd.
	👻 10:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:13 Thanks! It was fun to get nervous in front of a crowd.
	10:15pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:02 Yet I saw them outside the Princeton Record Exchange on Record Store Day 2012 for free!
	👻 10:15pm Heather Z: Hey all right more Eleven-SixtyFours!! Been tuned in and loving the show!
	👻 10:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:15 I've seen 'em for free too. Sometimes it's hard to get a paycheck every time, no matter who you are.
	👻 10:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Heather Z @10:15 Thanks Heather. There's a cover song coming up that you may... not hate.
	👻 10:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ Austin Rich @10:16 (Not by me... by another band.)
	👻 10:18pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @10:16 Oo, I'm even more excited now!! Except I did hope it was you doing the cover!
	👻 10:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Violent Girl (Live)" by "The Bags" I'm not sure how much touring Alice Bag does now, but on the last tour she did, she would tour by herself, and get a pick-up band in each city, recruiting people from local punk bands to play her songs. A gal I knew in the band JJCnV got to play guitar for Alice Bag on that tour.
	👻 10:19pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The Happy Song (Live)" by "The Eyes" I think about this song every time I have to go to work.
	10:20pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:13 Was it the lineup with Bobby Steele? I occasionally see his band The Undead at various small NJ spots, though not since Covid.
	👻 10:21pm univac: Thnx for the Punx, Austin! Gotta run!
	10:21pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @9:51 I miss hearing Eugene saying "That's stupid. Punk rock. I don't - you know - I just think of it as rock-n-roll; because, that's what it is, you know."
	👻 10:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:20 It was something floating around on YouTube, many years ago. I'm sure there's not that much floating around.
	👻 10:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ univac @10:21 Take care, univac!
	👻 10:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:21 I was thinking about taking different samples from those interviews. There's a lot of great interviews in that first Decline movie.
	👻 10:23pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Heather Z @10:18 Hi Heather!
	👻 10:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "One More Chance To Survive (Live)" by "The Alleyc... What I love about the early punk scene is that there where as many "rock and roll" bands that were just unpolished, and they were also "punk." But this song just sounds like rock and roll to me.
	10:24pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:19 She was scheduled to play at the Asbury Park Brewery in early 2020, but then--Covid!
	👻 10:24pm Heather Z: If I had to choose a fave live album (I'm late, I know), I think I'd chose Noise and Smoke by Little Jack Melody and his Young Turks. I got to see them live at the bar where it was recorded in Denton about 10 years ago, too! This time of year for their Xmas party. It was great..... Hi Arvo!!
	👻 10:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:24 I thought I remembered that. I'm sad I missed the last tour. I'm a sucker for her songs.
	👻 10:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Let's Get Rid of New York (Live)" by "The Randoms" Conversely, a band like this borders on noise rock.
	👻 10:33pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Side Effects Of Being Tired (Live)" by "unwound" When unwound was still a current band, The Ramen City Kid and I would go and see them often. I saw them at least five times with him back in the say, and now twice on their reuinion tours. While no one could ever replace their original bass player, I do enjoy the reunion shows quite a bit. There really wasn't a band like unwound, and now, kids love to try. But back then, it really felt like this was something unique and new.
	10:35pm laurapanic: YOU PLAYED WHAT NOW
	👻 10:35pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @10:35 Nice to see you in the Digital Salon!
	10:36pm laurapanic: i just got here!!!
	👻 10:36pm ramencity: ↳ laurapanic @10:35 😂
	10:37pm Mr. X: ↳ laurapanic @10:35 It sounded so great!
	10:38pm laurapanic: yeh a phone recording, I'm now trying to work out the song you played and if I'm horrified or not hahahaaaa!
	👻 10:40pm Heather Z: ↳ laurapanic @10:38 No horrified!! It sounded awesome!! So good!!
	👻 10:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @10:38 This is the one I played: youtu.be...
	👻 10:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Teenage (Live)" by "The Weirdos" This is like the punk version of Alice Cooper's "18."
	👻 10:46pm Heather Z: Yeahhh!
	10:47pm Mr. X: Somehow I knew this was a Bowie reference...
	10:48pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @10:44 oh, New Husband. Cool!
	👻 10:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:47 Famously, the Germs all met when Darby was stalking Bowie at a hotel in LA. It's likely Darby was gonna try to sleep with him, were he successful. (Darby didn't get anywhere near Bowie, but tried...)
	10:48pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:16 * this
	👻 10:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @10:48 Somehow I knew? (Really, I just liked the tune, and it seemed to go well after Nomeansno.)
	10:51pm David Shortell: ↳ Song: "Let's Pretend (Live)" by "Germs" I saw the Germs in Asbury Park in 2009. The singer was the actor who played Darby in the 2007 biopic.
	👻 10:51pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Four Truths And A Bass / Turning My Back On Today... Somehow, the only comment I got from one person at this show was, "So, you don't like Seinfeld? Huh."
	👻 10:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @10:51 I thought about trying to see that tour. It would have been interesting, anyway.
	10:52pm David Shortell: ↳ Austin Rich @10:51 Somehow I don't think "South Park" and "Seinfeld" had the same fanbase.
	👻 10:52pm ramencity: ↳ Austin Rich @10:48 Bowie was my mom and Darby was my dad
	10:53pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:51 Now you're on the Seinfeld Nazi's radar.
	10:53pm Mr Fab: I used to collect gig flyers off phone poles, bulletin boards - hardcore (Black Flag, Fear, etc) early college rock (Butthole Surfers, Sonic Youth)…and they got thrown away when I moved out of mom’s house. Cuz I’m an IDIOT.
	10:56pm Mr Fab: ↳ David Shortell @10:52 I watched em both. Probably the only comedies I watched in the ‘90s? (Well, along with “Beavis and Butthead” and “MST3K”)
	👻 11:00pm Arvo Zylo: I didn't hate Seinfeld or South Park. Too much of it started to feel a bit douchey, though. I think of it in terms of multiplicity. I don't want to watch more than one episode in a row. I don't generally like sitcoms.
	👻 11:01pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @10:53 The Soup Nazi episode was fun. The episode where the woman gives someone a fake number on the back of a sandwich card, but then tries to get the sandwich card back so that she can get the final points for a free sandwich... that was funny.
	👻 11:02pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Putnam County (Live)" by "Tom Waits" Every time I drive home from a bar, or drive home from my friend's house after drinking on his porch, I think of this song.
	11:02pm Hunterian: ↳ Song: "Romeo / Dimension 7 (Live)" by "The Wipers" One of the greatest live acts I ever saw for sure
	👻 11:03pm Heather Z: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:00 I was one of those who willfully refused to watch Seinfeld so I've only seen a few eps when a friend "made me" watch. I didn't care for South Park at all but did watch that, path of least resistance and all. But I do like sitcoms!
	👻 11:03pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:02 I've been hearing lots of Tom Waits lately on the radio, more than usual. Hoping that's not a death omen. Walking alone in a city at night, I almost always think of "The Heart of Saturday Night", a perfect album in my opinion, although I don't need a dose of him too often these days. His histrionics can be enough every once in a while.
	11:04pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "Putnam County (Live)" by "Tom Waits" I was half listening when this song started and I thought it was Rolf from The Muppets. But respect to Waits.
	👻 11:04pm Heather Z: Night all! Thanks for a fun show, Austin!
	👻 11:05pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:04 They sort of serve the same cultural role in my life.
	👻 11:05pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Heather Z @11:03 Jerry Seinfeld practices the same kind of meditation that I do, so he gets a bit of sympathy from me.
	11:05pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @11:05 both are adorable
	11:06pm Mr. X: Great show, Austin! Thanks!
	👻 11:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:03 My mom used to listen to that album when I was a kid, and for years I thought that was his only album. When I moved out on my own I was surprised to discover that he had a lot of albums, and they were all great. But that one reminds me of my mom, because she really loved that one, and played it over and over when I was growing up.
	👻 11:06pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:04 You reminded me of Rolf Harris, another Australian...
	👻 11:07pm Austin Rich: I just have a hard time relating to the kinds of comedy in sitcoms. I can get into some English stuff, but I find the comedy I like to be pretty dark.
	11:07pm David Shortell: ↳ laurapanic @11:04 Rowlf should've hosted the Muppet Show, not Kermit.
	👻 11:07pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:07 I find most sitcoms irritating, to be sure.
	👻 11:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ David Shortell @11:07 Insightful! And certainly controversial. But I think I agree. Kermit would have made a better stage manager / occasional performer.
	👻 11:08pm Austin Rich: You can hear some pops, but fortunately, this record hasn't started skipping yet.
	👻 11:08pm Arvo Zylo: Benny Hill was always charming.
	👻 11:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:08 That's a little closer to my style. Monty Python, Black Adder. That's the kind of comedy that really speaks to me.
	11:10pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:06 we don't talk about him anymore
	👻 11:10pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:10 I remember hearing that he was a jerk, but didn't look into it...
	👻 11:11pm Austin Rich: Thanks everyone! I had a great time pretending to be at another live show again...
	11:11pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:10 sexual predator, was jailed
	11:11pm laurapanic: ↳ laurapanic @11:11 or definitely charged....
	👻 11:11pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:11 oops. sorry!
	👻 11:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Keep Dancing (Live)" by "The Eleven-SixtyFours" My ode to Reg & Dom from Max Headroom.

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from December 17, 2024

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