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October 12, 2012
Pulling the wool over your ears since 1987 | ||
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| Artist | Selection | Album (Label / Recording date) |
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Theme Music: Sarah Webster Fabio |
Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues
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Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues
(Folkways 1976) |
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In Tempo
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Major Force: The Original Art-Form
(Mo' Wax 1990) |
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Talkover Music: Jimi Hendrix |
Born Under a Bad Sign
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Blues
(MCA 1970) |
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Talkover Music: Joe Claussell & Kerri Chandler |
Escravos De Jo
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Copa Mundial Muzique
(Guidance 1998) |
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Talkover Music: Joe Henderson (feat. Alice Coltrane) |
Water
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The Elements
(Milestone 1973) |
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Talkover Music: Miles Davis |
Helen Butte
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On the Corner
(Columbia 1972) |
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Closing Theme: John Lee Hooker |
Stand By
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I Feel Good
(Jewel 1971) |
Listener comments! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 7:03am
kat330:
G'day, Doug and all Drummers to come! Was up as usual for Philo's breakfast and lunch-making, but now I'm back to bedrest. Had a double whammy yesterday, so I'll only be a silent listener today. Now, Mr. Drummer, if you'll Schulkind-ly play me some soothing, healing beats this morning... TY! :} <-- weak smiley | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 7:58am
Doug Schulkind:
Sorry you've been double-whammied, kat330. Today's show will be chamomile for the ears. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 8:18am
duke:
Morning, doug, kat, and drummer aficionados, special greetings to the four legged wooly fans. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 8:23am
Doug Schulkind:
Hi Duke! Today's show has extra...fiber. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 8:59am
ndbob:
morning Doug kat Duke everyone! - hope you feel better soon Kat! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 8:59am
listener james from westwood:
here comes doug, the good shepherd of music! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:00am
listener james from westwood:
mornin' all! kat, gtds is endorsed by the musical wing of the ama for ailments grievous and slight. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:02am
Doug Schulkind:
Give the Drummer Some: Leading the heard to greener pastures since 1987. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:03am
holland oats:
mornin' drumma - i'm half a coffee in, lemme get up to speed | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:04am
Jeff G:
Drummer: no wool over your ears! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:05am
Doug Schulkind:
Hollah Holland! Hot java, Jeff! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:07am
Jeff G:
Shearling is quite warm... | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:08am
dcp@:
helloooooooooooooo.... (practicing my vocal fryyyyyyyy) | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:08am
George Frideric Handel:
We like sheep! http://bit.ly/UPXInf | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:11am
Brian in UK:
Hello Doug there's no one quite like ewe. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:12am
Doug Schulkind:
To George FH, dcp and Brian in UK, I bleat a warm welcome. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:13am
Doug Schulkind:
Missed you up above there, ndbob and mighty LJFW! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:13am
Jeff G:
She's probably listening to this: http://outlikelambs.bandcamp.com/ (unless those cans are internet-ready, in which case, duh, GTDS). | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:13am
Brian in UK:
Kinda purty thing has she got a sister? | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:16am
dcp@:
wow, thanks GF Handel, my kids came home singing that and I couldn't place it. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:18am
El Thatchmo:
Tell It Like It Is, Sri Schulkind! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:18am
ndbob:
Finding little commercial success, Kid Thomas worked as a lawn mowing man in Los Angeles in the latter half of the 1960s. On September 3, 1969, while driving his truck he struck a young boy and killed him. Arrested on a charge of manslaughter, the charge was later dismissed for lack of evidence. However, the boy's father waited outside the courthouse and shot him. Kid Thomas died at UCLA Medical Center, Beverly Hills on April 5, 1970. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:19am
Brian in UK:
Mary Go-Shay was on sparkling form last night. Her voice seems to gets stronger. Captivating show. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:23am
Doug Schulkind:
Secret handshake to you, Cousin Thatchmo! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:27am
Jeff G:
Love the production on this stuff. This one ("Breaking Up...") sounds like they're playing behind you in the living room, Doug. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:28am
El Thatchmo:
`¨ - 、 __ _,. -‐' ¨´ | `Tーて_,_` `ー<^ヽ | ! `ヽ ヽ ヽ r / ヽ ヽ _Lj 、 /´ \ \ \_j/ヽ ` ー ヽイ⌒r-、ヽ ヽ__j´ `¨´  ̄ー┴'^´ | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:29am
Doug Schulkind:
Naw, Jeff G, my house is too friggin cold. They're in the shotgun shack out back. Brian, I still haven't seen Ms Gauthier live yet. Our man Sherratt could regale us with stories. She's been a houseguest of his, you know. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:30am
Doug Schulkind:
Great Kid Thomas article in the Hound's blog: bit.ly... |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:31am
Doug Schulkind:
This Sonny Boy track is for the kiddies! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:32am
Hugo:
I see that Mary G. is doing Oslo and Trondheim on this tour, but not Bergen. If she had, I'd been there. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:33am
ndbob:
@Doug re Jessie's trip to Laramie - I talked to my friend George (also a friend of Gary Mitchell) who has been in every county in the lower 48 - he said there isn't much to see except perhaps for a few things perhaps in Cheyenne | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:33am
holland oats:
it takes a village muthafucka! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:34am
listener james from westwood:
ah, the internet, where the pecksniffery of the fcc holds no sway. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:34am
Doug Schulkind:
Thanks ndbob! Why am I not surprised? Holland Oats, you stole my line, motherfucka! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:35am
Brian in UK:
@Hugo shame you are missing a treat. You'll both have to come over here then. She plays here frequently. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:37am
Hugo:
Of course, Mary G. is playing Nantwich, Cheshire. Mr. Sherratt may have something to do with it. Brian, I've seen her twice or thrice before. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:37am
Brian in UK:
@james nice Dickens lick. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:39am
dcp@:
Who's on the board in this? Is that one of the Chess bros? | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:39am
listener james from westwood:
i so rarely get to put my fast-receding english degree into practice; thanx! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:40am
Brian in UK:
Surprisingly Hugo, Paul was unaware 'till I told him. Think he will head over tomorrow. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:40am
Hugo:
On the other hand, Jon Irabagon, great saxophonist, will be in and around town next week. Can't miss that. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:40am
listener james from westwood:
another reason to pledge to fmu: where else in nyc radio will you hear session banter and the hard method of creating classics back in the day, before protools or even multitracking? i remember being ~riveted~ the first time i heard the assembly of "god only knows" and "good vibrations" on fmu. so much goes into 3 or 4 minutes of bliss. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:41am
duke:
Congrats to all you Europeans, I see that you won the Nobel Peace prize. Are they distributing the money equally to all of the EU recipients? Expect your check for 0.3 cents (US) any day now. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:41am
Doug Schulkind:
@dcp I have a strong suspicion that it is a Chess brother. (Not a Brother, of course, just a brother.) |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:42am
Doug Schulkind:
@Hugo I'm afraid to play Irabagon's music on the show because his name is so hard to pronounce. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:42am
Jeff G:
Maybe if her apt has heat, you could head over there after the show, Doug. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:43am
Brian in UK:
I was worried this might turn into a Troggs type rant. Silly me these are musicians. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:43am
Jeff G:
There's a youtube vid of Mary Halvorson introducing her band, including Irabagaon, which we've used as the guide for D:O Radio. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:45am
holland oats:
long live the hound! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:45am
holland oats:
long live lakeside! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:46am
Jeff G:
Ih-RAH-bah-gone. ("ih" like "in"). Meanwhile, I manage to mangle just about every Euro-style name we play. Also please help with Jason Adasiewicz. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:46am
Dominick:
Hound was my gateway to WFMU | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:46am
listener james from westwood:
loved the hound's show. copyedited many a manuscript while listening to it. nothing like a hillbilly hangover segment to get me through a gnarly reference section. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:47am
listener james from westwood:
todd-a-phonic has similar chameleon qualities when subbing. it's quite uncanny. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:47am
Fiveash:
Just got here but I see that I have already been beaten to the "Little Village Mothafucka!" one-liners. Also recomended in the Chess Brothers vs. harmonica players in the studio vein: Little Walter's version of Worried Life Blues. Hey Dominick! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:48am
Dominick:
Ciao! Fiveash | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:51am
Hugo:
@Doug: Irabagon pronunciation guide here: http://vimeo.com/23256506 That Foxy (Doxy) is amazing! As was his performance at Moers. 33 minutes of "Three Little Words"! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:54am
Hugo:
Adasiewicz? Sounds Polish. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:54am
holland oats:
@ljfw simon&shuster by any chance? | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:56am
Doug Schulkind:
You can make a pledge to D:O Radio right now, right here: bit.ly... You can pledge to the marvy Mr. Fiveash and his Ichiban streaming delight, right here: bit.ly... @Hugo If I play that Vimeo, it will go over the air. Maybe I should. What am I, chicken?! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:57am
Brian in UK:
@duke is this what you were referring to earlier? Is he wearing a kippah? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO725Hbzfls | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:57am
Doug Schulkind:
Hey there Dominick! My gateway show on WFMU was Alan Watts, or more specifically the Alan Watts Lecture Series. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 9:59am
Brian in UK:
@ Jeff G this is my best attempt ADD-A-SAY-VITCH. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:01am
Jeff G:
@Hugo: oh, he's quite polished. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:01am
Fiveash:
Thanks for the plug, Dug! I mean ploug Doug. The Drummer Some and Ichiban streams love one another. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:02am
Fiveash:
Although my two-letter pledge code is FE, not FA. But apparently any two letters at the end of the link take you to a pledge page, whether or not they represent a specific DJ, so it's all good. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:02am
Doug Schulkind:
If the Drummer Stream and Ichiban had a baby, what would it look (sound) like. Discuss. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:04am
holland oats:
paul ryan's bean? | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:05am
Jeff G:
@Doug: pretty sure you're not a chicken, if the photo at left is at all a good likeness. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:07am
Jeff G:
A fave twitter/debate comment last night was something along the lines of, "Hey, Ryan, Coleman Hawkins is the Bean." I don't think there was any follow-up. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:08am
Doug Schulkind:
Just a stoopid typo on my part, Fiveash. All fixed. Now you'll be rich! Go here: wfmu.org... |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:09am
Alex in Illinois:
My gateway show was Wasted Vinyl back in 1987, when I lived in the New York area. But for listening on-line from Illinois, starting some time between 2000 and 2006, it was GTDS. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:09am
Jeff G:
@Brian (Brain): looks/sounds good to me! Thanks. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:10am
Holly in NC:
What are maroaches? I' m picturing palmetto bugs.. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:13am
Fiveash:
Thanks Doug, my avarice knows no bounds. Regarding the Ichiban/Drummer baby: hard to say, but it might sound like those weird Sun Ra-produced doo wop sides. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:15am
Doug Schulkind:
@Holly! @in! @NC! I'm guessing one wouldn't want a quick tokey-toke with this kind. Did you hear about that bug-eating guy who died? I'm guessing it was the millipedes that killed him. Those bastards are scary. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:16am
Doug Schulkind:
So Fiveash, if we spin those Sun Ra doo wop sides, would that be considered incest? |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:17am
Jeff G:
More like FUN-cest! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:18am
Artie:
And here I was thinking that maroaches were just plus-sized, woven cane, ladies casual footwear. Infested wtih tiny mites, of course, but still just harmless footwear. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:18am
Jeff G:
Ugh. Ok, off to take a shower now. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:21am
Holly in NC:
@fiveash - you are so dead on (sun ra doo wop) @doug --ruptured esophagus totally yuck | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:23am
Fiveash:
Doug: No. If we have sex with the records that's another story though. I apologize in advance for any "little record with a big hole" jokes that may result on your playlist. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:25am
listener james from westwood:
@holland oats: nope, haven't worked for s&s just yet, either freelance or full time. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:33am
Doug Schulkind:
@Fiveash There's always, um, Discwasher. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:36am
Doug Schulkind:
Greetings Artie! I like the idea of "harmless footwear." So understated but kinky. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:43am
Jeff G:
That must've been one helluva cornflower. Just sayin'. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:45am
Doug Schulkind:
Now HERE is one helluva cornflower: bit.ly... |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:48am
ndbob:
My gateway show was Charlie's - 1998 I think | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:51am
Matt from Springfield:
My gateway was Irwin's and soon after Brian Turner's, April 2009. Morning fine folks! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:51am
Doug Schulkind:
Speaking of gateways: I will never forget the advertising slogan Wilmington, Delaware, came up with to drum up tourism. I saw it on posters in the Wilmington Amtrak station a number of years ago. The slogan was, "Gateway to a Great Getaway!" How about that, the tourism ad copy refers to how great it is to get the hell out of town! Truly breathtaking. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:52am
Matt from Springfield:
And, morning Fine Fiveash Funcest Folk! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:53am
Matt from Springfield:
@Doug: Getting the hell out of town, but with an anagram! I'm sold! Now all I have to do is take the train into Wilmington, then buy a ticket to somewhere leaving from Wilmington. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:53am
Doug Schulkind:
So glad you are a member of the fambly, Matt. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:56am
Matt from Springfield:
Richard Bishop, of Sun City Girls? Trancey! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:56am
Doug Schulkind:
["The Fambly" is, of course, a secretive sect that gathers to worship in endless ululating rituals around an oversized glowing 45 adapter.] |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:57am
Doug Schulkind:
Yup, same Richard Bishop. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 10:59am
Matt from Springfield:
45 adapter...with WFMU logo! Now I'm curious about these Sun Ra doo wop records, if you and Fiveash ever co-host, in a collab or at Marathon time, we need to hear those! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:00am
Doug Schulkind:
Matt, unless my Swiss cheese short-term memory screws it up, you can hear some Sun Ra doo wops next Friday. How 'bout that! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:01am
still b/p:
Ulu that voodoo that you do so well! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:02am
βrian:
Strange coincidence. Topinambour is my favorite French word – based on the sound alone. It's perfect for pillow talk. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:02am
ndbob:
They are great Matt - and super rare | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:03am
Matt from Springfield:
Excellente, Drummer! Many thanks! I'll take NDBob's word for it, great! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:05am
βrian:
"Toh - pee - nawhm - boor" C'est beau ! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:05am
Carmichael:
Hi everyone. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:09am
Doug Schulkind:
Hey still b/p, how the hell R ya? And Carmichael, how you B? |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:09am
Matt from Springfield:
Kudos to our generous Ashevill-ians! Hi Carm! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:10am
Doug Schulkind:
Welcome aboard, βrian. How you β? |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:11am
Doug Schulkind:
I predict a visit from the Bloke from Stoke! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:13am
Doug Schulkind:
I found the link for that George Cromarty record. Here it is: bit.ly... |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:13am
βrian:
I β fine. It's a beautiful morning in Madison. I'm glad I remembered to tune in. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:17am
Doug Schulkind:
It's βeautiful now that you're here. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:21am
Doug Schulkind:
I would be absolutely thrilled to get to 50% by then end of today's show. (I'll be halfway through the silent fund drive, so it sorta makes sense.) To do this, we need about another $375 in pledges. Anyone willing to give it a go? (Pledges of $120 or more can be paid off in monthly installments.) |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:24am
ndbob:
this is great! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:25am
Doug Schulkind:
The rest of this Amadou Balaké record is straight-up Cuban rhumba. For real! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:27am
Holly in NC:
That Cromarty was a HUGE blog share, biggest one in ages! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:27am
Doug Schulkind:
Balaké is from Burkina Faso. As is Cissé Abdoulaye. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:27am
Alex in Illinois:
Does this count pledges that were made using the Web site during the past 6 days? I did not check the GTDS DJ premium because it was the same one I got before, so I hope it still counted towards GTDS. I am pretty sure that I wrote something about GTDS in the Comments part of the form. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:28am
still b/p:
I'm in a session at the former workplace to gather material for personal archives and to help get another whattayacallit...job! Busy day, but tonight I GO SEE TINARIWEN! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:28am
Doug Schulkind:
The comments on the Cromarty record at Waxidermy is well worth reading: bit.ly... |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:30am
Matt from Springfield:
This Cissé Abdouliaye & Les Vautours would make great bed music, as well! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:31am
Holly in NC:
@Matt - For Sun Ra doo wop, look to Norton's "Interplanetary Melodies" (BUY!), or Evidence's old singles comp, which you may dl here : http://earlspsychedelicgarden.blogspot.com/2012/03/sun-ra-singles.html :-) | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:31am
Doug Schulkind:
@Alex in Illinois All pledges go to the same place. So no worries about that. People can have their pledges "count" for different shows by pledging using the specific pledge boxes on DJs playlist pages (otherwise the pledges count for the entire station). Whether you pledge to an individual or to the station generally, all of the goodies and premiums are available. Opting for one premium or another doesn't have a bearing on how the pledge counts. So to answer you in full: THANK YOU! |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:35am
Matt from Springfield:
Yes, Upper Volta, pre-1984. @Holly: Heard of "Interplanetary Melodies" after receiving WFMU's "Interplanetary Remixes", but don't have it yet. Thanks for the recs! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:37am
βrian:
My feelings are re-mixed. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:37am
joe:
'ello folks | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:39am
Doug Schulkind:
Say it IS so, Joe. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:39am
Carmichael:
This sounds kind of Steinski-ish, Doug! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:40am
Doug Schulkind:
Ill take that as a compliment, Carmichael. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:41am
Michael:
Morning all. Late to service I guess. Wonder if Little Becky knows Lil Joe Cook? | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:41am
Brian in UK:
@still b/p lucky fella. It will put a lot of musical things into place. The bass player is super cool. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:42am
Matt from Springfield:
"The Itchy Scratch", another good'un for the Ichiban stream--or should I say Itchy Ban! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:43am
joe:
To anybody that that is interested caught a great western swing band the other night at the Rodeo Bar in NYC. The Susquehanna Industrial Tool & Die Co. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:43am
joe:
It is so it is so | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:44am
joe:
Doug thanks for the heads up on the Wanda Jackson "monster" | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:51am
Doug Schulkind:
Speaking of Wanda Jackson: bit.ly... |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:51am
Matt from Springfield:
Wow, ORIG "Groovy Situation"! Mel & Tim do this better than Gene Chandler at his comeback. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:53am
Jeff G:
Somehow have not left for work yet. Wonder why. Should probably head off now, if only to make sure I stay gainfully employed enough to allow for the purchase of MORE MUSIC. Tally ho, and thanks, Doug, as ever! Ewe rock! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:53am
Doug Schulkind:
Mornin' Michael. Never too late for a little Little Becky. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:55am
Doug Schulkind:
I hope you didn't bring your laptop into the shower with you, Jeff G. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:57am
ndbob:
excellent show Doug! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:57am
monica:
another fanatstic show, doug! a nice round 33 1/3 raised so far? | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:58am
Alex in Illinois:
@joe: I think The Susquehanna Industrial Tool & Die Co is featured on a WFMU DVD of live performances in WFMU studios. Does that sound right anyone? | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 11:59am
Matt from Springfield:
Great stuff, as per usual Doug! Enjoy the weekend everybody! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:00pm
Doug Schulkind:
Hi Monica! 33 1/3 is mighty round indeed. And around. And around. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:01pm
Jeff G:
(Honestly? Stayed tuned in via the iphone app just outside the tub.) (I fear I've said too much.) (Byez for realz.) | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:01pm
Brian in UK:
We start with Harmonica & end with Monica. Perfect. | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:02pm
Doug Schulkind:
This Larry T & the Family record was highlighted in my Mining the Audio Motherlode column a few weeks back. bit.ly... |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:05pm
listener james from westwood:
doug, this show was a flame that cleanses the soul. many thanks. a fine weekend to all! | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:07pm
ndbob:
as the Winstons cover Bobby Vinton | |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:09pm
Doug Schulkind:
Sounds painful, however necessary, Listener James. |
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Fri. 10/12/12 12:10pm
Doug Schulkind:
Maybe we could just you a nice non-abrasive avocado rinse, Listener James. |
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