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Options March 5, 2018: Irwin Chusid cohosts the first Techtonic marathon show

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This evening, Irwin Chusid co-hosts for our first Techtonic show of the WFMU spring fundraising marathon!

Make a pledge here to support Techtonic and WFMU. With a $10 per month pledge, you can get the first-ever official Techtonic Tshirt! Shown below, designed by the brilliant Greg Harrison for WFMU:



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Tonight, Irwin Chusid and Mark Hurst discuss some of the recurring themes of Techtonic, such as...

• What are the alternatives to Big Tech, and why might we want to try them out?

• How does Silicon Valley respond to charges of making tech that's addictive (or otherwise harmful)?

• Where do we look to get inspiration for the true promise of tech? (See the interviews with Jace Clayton, Cheyenne Hohman, Andy Rehfeldt, among others.)

• Why should we pay attention to China and its technology?

• How is AI beginning to affect the economy (as shown in the interviews with Botnik's Bob Mankoff and Jamie Brew, and research scientist Janelle Shane)?

You can listen to Irwin Chusid on his own show this Wednesday (and every Wednesday), from 12pm to 3pm. See Irwin's past shows here.

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Artist Track Approx. start time
  Irwin Chusid co-hosts with Mark during this first show of the WFMU fundraising marathon.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Options  
  Mark and Irwin talk tech    
  Excerpt of interview with Nir Eyal, author of "Hooked"   0:11:44 (MP3 | )
  Excerpt of interview with Gabriel Weinberg, founder of DuckDuckGo   0:30:51 (MP3 | )
Raymond Scott  Thermofax Effects   Options 0:24:11 (MP3 | )
Shooby Taylor  I'll Get By   Options 0:54:44 (MP3 | )

Listener comments!

  Mon. 3/5/18 6:02pm melinda:

Hello! Happy 1st marathon.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:04pm northguineahills:

W000! Bring on the Techthons!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:04pm queems:

yayy
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Just listened to this John Perry Barlow trib on PsychSalon :
psychedelicsalon.com...
- which I think would be of interest...
  Mon. 3/5/18 6:07pm melinda:

Jon Ronson is great.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:08pm neecher:

gonna pledge soon for that sweet usb shirt! loving the addition of techtonic to the schedule- the AI phone calls were my favourite so far
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:10pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark, Irwin!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:11pm Webhamster Henry:

Shooby is Techtonic!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:11pm Michael 98145:

never did have a facebook
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:11pm TDK60:

Welcome Irwin, didn't know about your book, will look up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Anyone have an account on Urban Dictionary? No entry yet for "outsider music": www.urbandictionary.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:13pm Michael 98145:

[ www.amazon.com... ]
  Mon. 3/5/18 6:14pm kimzilla:

Hi folks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:17pm northguineahills:

I jumped from the tech-tech industry, now I do something I love. (although, I do tech, but for a better cause)(I make a lot less money, but am happy)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:17pm TDK60:

Might it be good to look back at prior writers who more generally looked at human technology critically, from socio-politico-ecological-psychological, etc. angles?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:18pm Mark Hurst:

Hi everyone! Thanks for your support as you're pledging - either click the links at left or call 1-800-989-9368
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:19pm Webhamster Henry:

I love hearing the blinders in this guys explanations.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:20pm Mark Hurst:

@ngh - great to hear - I admire your approach!
@tdk60 - yes, good point - i am in the middle of reading "Technics and Civilization" by Lewis Mumford right now. several other books queued up after that...
  Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:21pm Listener Robert:

The casual user of heroin isn't "addicted" either.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:21pm northguineahills:

Henry has an even better perspective then I, he know the ends and outs since the beforetime ;)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Just heard this on NPR about a lady who had Pakinsons - which is a dopamine deficiency in the brain - & was given a medicine that floods the brain w/ a replacement.Dopamine is also the reward chemical in the brain - out of the blue she became an absolutely chronic Gambling Addict:
www.npr.org...
...If slot machines can become a Clinical concern - why not Tech??
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:22pm Webhamster Henry:

I had a discussion with someone today who wants to drop her website for Facebook only. So basically, it mean relinquishing control over their own content for the caprices of FB's visibility algorithms.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The Gym prevents Depression, probably. & Tech? What is the actual evidence...altho' a Gym may take yer cash...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:25pm TDK60:

Hi Mark! Yes, Mumford is one of those! // WFMU allows us to use invisible imagination.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:26pm Webhamster Henry:

The simple motto of addiction is "I can stop any time I want to - I just don't want to", and "To cease smoking is the easiest thing I ever did. I ought to know because I've done it a thousand times." (Mark Twain)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:26pm Michael 98145:

the Archives are Mammoth !!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:27pm Michael 98145:

left coast represents !
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:28pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Dutchess County represents!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:28pm TDK60:

Archive: Anyone who's really into, say, 2004, can "go there"...don't get lost in there...
  Mon. 3/5/18 6:29pm Ken:

Happy Marathon everybody
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:29pm northguineahills:

@Rev Rabbit: I do all of my exercise at home or on my bike (of course, w/in 30 mins this weekend, both brake cables snapped and I had to jump, tuck and roll on a patch of grass [I somehow came out w/ barely a bruise)])
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:30pm chris:

hello, Mark and Irwin and folks.
my name is chris, and i'm addicted to fmu.
i, too am in tech in not-for-profit healthcare and have consistently eschewed taking my skills to the for profit sector. not to pat myself on the back, but just to say, like fmu, that choice matches my values.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Scott...the man behind Cartoon Impresario Carl Stalling...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

(...so to speak...wasn't that 'Powerhouse'?...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:31pm Webhamster Henry:

The archives have also special sub-show and podcast archives like Irwin's own "Muriel's Treasure" and "Incorrect Music", and fill in DJs and special collections like A Rough Mix with Steinski's show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:34pm queems:

yeah if we implement that here, i'm bailing
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:34pm chris:

we need to hear this stuff! china may be the first digital autocracy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:35pm TDK60:

Just heard Orwell is verboten there, of course!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:35pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Paying for stuff via smart phone is here. Some countries are ahead of the US already.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:35pm chris:

great news about tech and china - chinadigitaltimes.net...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:36pm ultradamno:

Is it possible there was no band called Techno Police State in the 80s?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:36pm TDK60:

I'm very political.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:37pm Uncle Michael:

Thank you for your very kind words, Mark.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:37pm northguineahills:

Incorrect Music hurts my brain, and in doing so, made me a better person. It's good to be challenged aesthetically. I highly recommend it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:37pm Michael 98145:

( plus, supporting this station supports the Free Music Archive, doesn't it ? )
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:40pm Webhamster Henry:

The USB Connectors look like DEVO or Kraftwerk.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:40pm northguineahills:

Yes, that is true, Michael!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:41pm Michael 98145:

yay, Bas NL !
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:42pm northguineahills:

As said before, I use different browsers for different purposes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:42pm Rand al'Thor:

One thing I like about DuckDuckGo are the ! shortcuts it offers, once you set it to default.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:42pm Mark Hurst:

@U.M. - of course! Everyone should listen to Hinky Dinky Time on Friday afternoons on the Drummer stream!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:42pm Rand al'Thor:

For instance, in a new tab, I can type "!yt [search term]" to search YouTube.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:43pm Michael 98145:

guess i'm vanilla, using just firefox
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:43pm Michael 98145:

... with Ghostery
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:44pm Rand al'Thor:

duckduckgo.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:44pm melinda:

I'm getting the Techtonic t-shirt! Didn't realize it was a Greg H design, too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:45pm Stepchild:

Hi Mark, Wow you've been here six months and to my great embarrassment today is the first time I've tuned in. But I'm gonna be here MUCH more often now!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:45pm ultradamno:

All these concerns aside, I just never liked Chrome very much.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The great Google motto: 'Don't Be Evil'...
  Mon. 3/5/18 6:48pm Ike:

Quiet in phone room! Don't put it off like everybody else! Call NOW, you butts! 800-989-9368!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:48pm Michael 98145:

"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
  Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:48pm Listener Robert:

I miss the NEAR operator that Alta Vista and at least one other search engine (I forgot which) had. You could search for files where the words occurred within 15 or 25 words of each other. It's useful for discriminating against long, omnibus files that contain the words you're searching for the conjunction of, but in entirely separate contexts.

NEAR should be easily programmed in SNOBOL or some such.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:50pm Linda Lee:

industry is government ~ that's how we roll now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:51pm Linda Lee:

.. so USA turns to shit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...I am shocked - shocked - to learn that gambling is going on on this establishment...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:51pm Michael 98145:

Supposedly, BING has a 'near' operator : msdn.microsoft.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:53pm Michael 98145:

great duo, thanks, you two
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:54pm Linda Lee:

agree! love hearing you both!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:54pm melinda:

Thanks for the urging, Irwin, this is show is an important addition to WFMU.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:55pm Michael 98145:

innovation ... for example, this playlist/comment board is exceptional
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:55pm Linda Lee:

"marginal multimedia empire" ~ love it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:55pm Rand al'Thor:

Agreed. Started listening to this a few weeks ago, and really enjoy and appreciate it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:56pm TDK60:

The archive is very special...goes back to '99?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:56pm melinda:

@Michael I agree.
  Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:56pm Listener Robert:

Thanks, Michael. I should use Bing more.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:56pm Linda Lee:

@TDK60 ~ not quite as far as i do ~ but almost :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:57pm Michael 98145:

guess i trust MS slightly more than google. not sure why i should.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

SERIOUSLY. FMU - leagues ahead - for whut - 1/10th the normal station's budget ?!? It presents as goofy (which is great & healthy) - but it IS extraordinary.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:57pm northguineahills:

Thanks Mark and Irwin!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:57pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I suspect WFMU has a greater variety of T-shirts than the average radio station.
  Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:57pm yippie:

almighty opp brought puppets on the radio on wfmu
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:58pm Webhamster Henry:

WFMU was the first streaming over an iPhone using a sneaky trick involving quicktime links... I think there were native streaming apps form other sources, but certain WFMU's and JM in the AM's original apps (which I wrote) were among the very earliest.
  Mon. 3/5/18 6:58pm Emily:

Techtonic expands MY mind! I am so happy you joined the FMU family, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:58pm northguineahills:

@Michael: As I through my monitor across the office b/c of the numbskullery design of its software.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:58pm Linda Lee:

i have indeed used up a pencil.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:59pm Michael 98145:

@ngh, well, there -is- that
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:59pm geo in jc:

I have used up pencils.
  Mon. 3/5/18 6:59pm Emily:

Oh, and thanks Mark and Irwin! It’s been a great hour :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:59pm TDK60:

Love that Lo-Fi tech.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 6:59pm Rand al'Thor:

Congrats to the winners.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:00pm βrian:

A perfectionist with a pencil-sharpener can use up a pencil in no time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:00pm ultradamno:

I've used up many, esp. the mod ones. Never a Ticonderoga.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:00pm Webhamster Henry:

Excellent Excerpts tonight!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:00pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Irwin!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:00pm chris:

thanks, guys!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:00pm Rand al'Thor:

Thanks for the show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:00pm Michael 98145:

pencils - www.yelp.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:01pm Linda Lee:

damn i love hearing shooby taylor! thanks gentlemen!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:01pm Webhamster Henry:

Shooby Taylor, the Human Modem!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:02pm Michael 98145:

300 baud !
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:03pm βrian:

Super baud!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 3/5/18 7:04pm Michael 98145:

let's all get fried
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