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Options January 22, 2018: Parents of kids who use tech, feat. DJ Scott Williams

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This week on Techtonic, Mark Hurst and DJ Scott Williams talk about parenting kids in a world full of tech.



I spotted this recently in the World Trade Center Oculus. Below, the image in context...



And from last week...

About the Hawaii missile alert: Honolulu Civil Beat reported an image of the offending user interface.



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Listener comments!

  Mon. 1/22/18 6:01pm melinda:

Hi guys
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:01pm Linda Lee:

good evening Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:02pm Webhamster Henry:

Hi Mark & Scott!
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:02pm geezerette:

Howdy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:03pm Linda Lee:

super important subject tonight.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:03pm geezerette:

Great piece of public art!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:03pm Webhamster Henry:

Ongoing question: what if we call Techtonic listeners "chthonics"?
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:05pm geezerette:

Melinda, was your name for listeners,"Techtones"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:05pm Phil with the phone:

How the hell do you pronounce that?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:05pm Linda Lee:

personally i just don't. no upper teeth at all.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:05pm Andrew S:

Saturated by kids too
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Greetings, Mark, Scott and Techticians!
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:07pm Dean:

Listeners should be dubbed "Drifters." Get it? Tectonics?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:08pm queems:

is idle refreshing "time well spent"
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:08pm Andrew S:

It's a hallow resolution
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:08pm βrian:

Is this a good place to mention that I just bought a brand new top-of-the-line MacBook Pro with the most-recent peripherals (directly from Apple) ... and that the cables provided didn't allow for connections to the laptop?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:09pm Linda Lee:

please! 'meaningful social interaction' does not go with facebook.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:09pm Andrew S:

bang
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:10pm queems:

i don't miss facebook at all
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Zuckerbird has always wanted fb to 'Personal' - not a platform for people to repost Public stuff. That was the original model.
This is like WalMart using the tax break (which will gut social funds) as an excuse to raise wages they had to raise anyroad...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:10pm chris:

hi, Mark and Scott and folks. time for another refreshing skeptonic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:10pm Linda Lee:

haha. ever hear a dealer tell an addict, 'you gotta quit this stuff'? they do it all the time. then the relationship continues.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:11pm Ken From Hyde Park:

What was the other Facebook update announced the other day? People rate how fake the news entries are? Covert Russian operatives will give top ratings to their fake stuff and it'll be the same crock it is now.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:11pm geezerette:

ooh, Chris, good one!
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:11pm Andrew S:

I kinda do miss it sometimes but not enough to participate again
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Yes LindaLee. He cares about me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:12pm northguineahills:

@Dean: Geological puns are the best puns.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:12pm βrian:

Any social network mediated by a corporation will only serve the interests of the corporation; never the users.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:13pm Linda Lee:

& that goes double for governments!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:13pm chris:

here's an abacus, now go do your homework
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...& what they're saying is the effect will be that reputable News will go down the algorithm - after fb helped destroy Journalism commercially...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:14pm Linda Lee:

that reminds me of a youtube video: a couple of pre-teens given a cassette tape. kept looking for the bud port.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:14pm coelacanth∅:

(just as dentists wont touch that poison they stuff into your teeth)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:15pm βrian:

@chris: That kid will learn how to think about problem-solving, at least.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:15pm queems:

i'm a dedicated instagram user and i know i should quit that too but it's hard
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...the Tools change...but the Apes - not so much...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:16pm Tommy in Neversink:

I wish Facebook would filter out the fake news and let us worry about meaningful social contact
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:17pm Linda Lee:

what's critical is awareness of the actual purpose of the technology. without awareness of what you're using, your use is different than if you know.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:17pm Dean:

Anybody working closely with technology during the '80s, '90s, could smell the BS. Total hype, disconnected from concrete reality, held aloft only by malarkey about democracy and individuality.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:17pm northguineahills:

I use FB maybe once or twice a month. It has gotten me in touch w/ music and art events in the town I moved to, so, it has facilitated positive change in my life. But it's just a tool, you get out of it what you use it for.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:18pm chris:

if i were given an abacus, i'd need youtube to figure out how to use it, to your point LL.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:18pm queems:

i kind of want to go to this meet up movie
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:18pm northguineahills:

once or twice a week... (my brain's on blink).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:18pm Linda Lee:

unfortunately, i sitll get enough from fb to keep using it. important communication & group activism. damn it.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:18pm melinda:

@geeze it was Techtons.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:19pm Linda Lee:

@chris ~ unless you were actually with someone who could teach you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:19pm queems:

i'm putting this on my calendar
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:19pm coelacanth∅:

the fake news is another decoy. (like the "government shutdown", the "bomb cyclone", the sexual harassment witch hunt,etc.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:19pm Ken From Hyde Park:

The Road Movie ... where do I sign up?
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:19pm Andrew S:

My only real regret about not being on social media, I have a few smaller ones, sure I liked to see peoples kids and cats. But I cant comment or even read comments on news articles anymore. It's like get on facebook or stfu so I stfu
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:19pm geezerette:

Melinda, it's a good one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:20pm chris:

true, true, Linda Lee!
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:20pm melinda:

Linda I get a lot from FB too, met some great people in private groups.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:21pm melinda:

Thanks G!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

It's increased Social Interaction - w/out Bodies...the 1st thing Zuckerbird asks is your whole Timeline history - & your RealName. Bang - a dozen people I knew from living on the WestCoast were on my desktop...everybody fro everywhere...When joining fb - I felt I was nekkid in the middle of a new TownSquare...or - @ least where everyone could see me...it's an adjustment. & it's considerable....Yes, you can Block people - which I love to do (haha) - but you're still there...Then there's the 'which movie star do you resemble' bollocks...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:22pm Tommy in Neversink:

Some news sites are based on reality and some aren't. Irresponsible journalism is what got us in the mess we're in
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:22pm Andrew S:

this guy again
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:22pm Webhamster Henry:

Social Media ! I was on the Well, ECHO (I still am), lots of BBSes, most swept under by the tsunami of internet connectivity.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park:

$10 for the movie sounds good, but I suspect there's a catch: You have to bring your own chair (office chair with wheels) and leave it after the show.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:22pm Andrew S:

;)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:22pm Linda Lee:

i'm actually able to order the medicine that keeps me upright & functional on fb, & speak to my vendor. this is sort of important.
i'm also involved with at least half a dozen groups looking to keep it legal for all, via fb. & assisting others with its use.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I'm so glad I Grew Up before everyone had cameras to put everything online forever...it's bad enuff now!...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:23pm Linda Lee:

i'm on FB helping others with their questions for at least an hour daily. that's where they are, so that's where i am. sadly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:23pm Phil with the phone:

Check that IMDB link below, I'm more excited than I should be for this movie.
www.imdb.com...

We should have enough chairs for most of you. Chair donations are always welcome.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:23pm melinda:

Ken that's funny.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:24pm Tommy in Neversink:

Oh come on, You don't have to bring a chair...desks and file cabinets are also acceptable
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

We always jabbered about technology that would link everyone's nervous systems - we just didn't expect to live to see it & have to deal w/ the true implications...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:27pm Webhamster Henry:

I just got a phone for my daughter so she can have something to use in college in the fall. She didn't want a non-smart phone, though, because she's used to iOs devices.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:27pm northguineahills:

I just picked up an iPhone 7 since my iPhone 5 I had for 5 years finally died.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:28pm Kurt:

I would never recommend giving unfettered access to a smartphone. It's very difficult for a non tech person to limit access to 'undesirable' content.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:28pm Andrew S:

helping people is nothing to be sad about. Lets face it, it's ubiquitous. You can still do good things in a bad environment
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:28pm Dean:

Now, see, a teacher at my junior high school used to show 35mm ski movies in reverse, including the apres-ski fondue into which people would deposit the morsels they extract from their mouths.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:29pm Dean:

Rather, 16mm
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:29pm Michael 98145:

pre-FB BBSs were fun. never took the FB bait.
oh, and this flip-phone works just fine.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:29pm βrian:

I love the smartphone for the fact that I can easily get the diacritics and grammar right when sending texts. Otherwise, I feel like a slouch.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:29pm Kurt:

Much of the online gaming now has a gambling component too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:29pm Linda Lee:

@Andew S ~ indeed!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:29pm Webhamster Henry:

Non smart phones are now called "Feature Phones" , and there should be one that is really good at telephony and texting, but is also a wiFi hotspot. Most of the time, it would have pretty good battery life!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:30pm Linda Lee:

have any of these phones ever been actually proven safe for use near the head? i don't think so.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:31pm Andrew S:

theyve never been proven unsafe. Its hard to prove something is safe
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:31pm Webhamster Henry:

"Food comes first" is shouted out when a phone appears at the table.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:31pm Ken From Hyde Park:

The Screenagers movie I mentioned once has a newsletter, "Tech Talk Tuesdays," that emails a different subject each week. www.screenagersmovie.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:31pm coelacanth∅:

i have a pocket computer ("smart phone") but no smart phone plan. (tracphone only has pocket computers, even though they sell regular phone plans.) i fucking hate the touch screen bullshit.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:32pm melinda:

@Brian clumsy texting on my flip phone is one of the things that will soon drive me to the smartphone.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:32pm Dean:

Berkeley passed an ordinance that has so far survived judicial scrutiny. It requires retailers to give notice of possible radiation effects of devices.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:32pm Phil with the phone:

Call in at 201-209-9368!
Use your dad's phone if necessary!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:32pm Linda Lee:

right .. we're in a world of guinea pigs, basically.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:32pm dale:

i just got rid of my 10 year old dumb phone. i got a NEW dumb phone because the screen and keypad was bigger - my eyes are not what they used to be.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:33pm Webhamster Henry:

Coding for those constraints was lots of fun!
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:33pm Dean:

There was an internet at the time. There was virtually no public access to the 'net, and there was no web.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:33pm βrian:

Ted Kennedy was one such guinea pig, I guess.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:33pm Linda Lee:

the proof of danger occurs as we sicken & die. think of cigarettes. & even with proof, our deaths are basically immaterial. this is what we contribute to every day of the week. this paradigm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:34pm Linda Lee:

lovely.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:34pm coelacanth∅:

well, they have to be unsafe. an understanding of how the body works with an understanding of the way a cell phone (any cell phone) works makes this obvious.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:34pm Andrew S:

cigarettes we know are unsafe. Microwaves there is a case but its still theory
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:34pm Linda Lee:

yes of course he was. an 'early adopter'. the brave guinea pigs go first.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:35pm Linda Lee:

at one time we didn't know cigs were unsafe. we really didn't. this is where we are re cell tech.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:35pm Webhamster Henry:

The massive processing power of the iPhone X: purposefully used to make talking poop emoji.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:36pm Ken From Hyde Park:

That sounds like the South Park episode "Freemium Isn't Free" with the phone games.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:36pm Linda Lee:

'we' meaning the general public .. the great unwashed. the consumer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...like the labrats who press the lever hooked to their brain rather than eat - & die...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:36pm βrian:

You could say Ted Kennedy's brain was "re-wired."
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...ALWAYS now the fast buck - over EVERYTHING & ANYTHING...
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:37pm TehBadDr:

The Old Arcade game Bezerk was a great game, but insidious. It used to say"detect coin in user's pocket"!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:37pm coelacanth∅:

f cigarettes were a new invention, with what we know now about how the body works, they'd never get off the ground. they'd be declared unsafe before ever being marketed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:37pm Linda Lee:

so now we know everything & they're still with us.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:38pm Andrew S:

we dont know lettuce is unsafe either. Im not saying holding your phone to your ear is safe but there is nothing that has proven it isnt.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:38pm Webhamster Henry:

in re: Smoking risk: here's a comedy routine from 1959 by Bill Dana (RIP) in period ad-speak about how they were to spin the fact that cigarettes will kill you. 1959.
www.echonyc.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:38pm Linda Lee:

on a certain level our knowledge is irrelevant. on that same level human life is irrelevant too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Thing is: They KNEW tobacco was addictive & cancerous - but they created an Industry to DENY it. DENIALISM.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:39pm Linda Lee:

we basically don't love ourselves sufficiently, as a species. a real fatal flaw.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:39pm coelacanth∅:

..like the milk scam.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:39pm northguineahills:

@Linda Lee: I don't think I've used a phone near my head since my my old dumb phone had an 'intercom' option 14 years ago, Now, having my phone in the proximity of my groin (front pants pocket), that could be a potential issue.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:39pm Linda Lee:

ho! yikes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:40pm Ken From Hyde Park:

This is just begging for the invention of the lead phone case.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:41pm Derek in Atlantic City:

My 13 yr old daughter is a JUNKIE w her phone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:41pm Linda Lee:

does it have to be lead?
if someone can make it cool to protect your brain .. wow
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:42pm Michael 98145:

iCod Piece
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:42pm northguineahills:

@Michael 98145: We have a winner!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Less Rebellious. Got that? No Rawk'n'Roll : iPhones....
Lead - heavy & soft - all wrong :) ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:42pm βrian:

@NGH: Discount vasectomy, yo.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:42pm coelacanth∅:

i hold my phone right against my face, so i can hear it; but i'm only on the phone for maybe 15 minutes/week. my downfall may end up being having my face too close to the computer screen. man i feel that after an hour or 2.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:43pm Derek in Atlantic City:

Absolute addiction and personality changes apparent when she has excessive time on it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:43pm Linda Lee:

i'm horrified that we'll wind up losing an entire generation prematurely with horrendous cancers. what a fucking nightmare.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:43pm Dean:

The Berkeley ordinance implicated a suppressed CA Dep't Public Health brochure that intimates certain risks. The Dep't unsuccessfully argued that the brochure was merely a draft, based on uncertain science. The group filing a FOIA request to release it argued, to the contrary, that it was in final form, but that the cell phone industry wanted it suppressed. The brochure:
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/CDPH-cell-phone-document-April-2014.pdf
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:43pm Krys O.:

I suggest Greg Toppo's book, the Game Believes in You for a different viewpoint about gaming and education.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:43pm JakeGould:

All of the first gen video games just sped up as levels got higher. Just more and more stressful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm βrian:

Is it "less happiness" or fewer "happiness?"
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...than again - always wonder if these naysayers are like the honky bourgeois ladies who crapped on Comics & RawkaRolla...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm Ken From Hyde Park:

That tagline would make a good screensaver.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm Andrew S:

The radio show is much more interesting, the psychological impact. I think the "cancer danger" is much smaller in scope
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm βrian:

This little taser says "I'm thinking you're not so bored."
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm TehBadDr:

iGenerally can't put down any sort of interweb connected device. If my parents take away my phone, I grab Aelexa and take her to my room.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm rw:

I'm a big fan of boredom. Not enough of it these days.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:44pm Linda Lee:

why are adults so afraid to take control of their kids' lives!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:45pm mrdonutsu:

Just to play devil's advocate, wouldn't a pre-literate hunter gatherer say almost everything you're saying about phones/technology about books and/or reading as well?
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:45pm Jul:

I gotta say that maybe som of the Gen X-ers may have invented some of this technology. ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:45pm βrian:

(I kid, I kid ...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:45pm northguineahills:

By the time I was 13, I actually embraced what my parents drilled into me, (if you're bored, you're not very smart).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:45pm JakeGould:

Playing video games in the 1980s kinda saved my life. Made me social in an anti-social way and such… But by the time I was in college, I don’t really care too much about games anymore.

But nowadays I know people who are in their 20s and 30s who are still into videotapes despite having a real life option and I find that bizarre.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:45pm Linda Lee:

boredom means imagination. imagination is good for the brain.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:46pm Fredericks:

I need to interact with a screen to listen to this show and to make this comment.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:46pm mrdonutsu:

www.newyorker.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:46pm JakeGould:

“…who are still into video games…”
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

@mrdonutsu: Or of Snivelisation itself? So much for Terence McKenna's Archaic Revival - bringing us back into our Bodies after Print Culture...
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:46pm TehBadDr:

Love the "Metal Blockheads" pic!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:47pm northguineahills:

I'm never bored, or, I enjoy being 'bored', so....
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:47pm βrian:

I check FB compulsively, at least 4 or 5 times a year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:47pm Ken From Hyde Park:

But now you can get the Amazon Echo Show ... an Alexa with a screen.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:47pm JakeGould:

That said I still have one very strong video game muscle: I have very, very good at “Mr. Do!”
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:47pm Linda Lee:

a facebook vision of reality? like staring into a cesspool & seeing your reflection.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:47pm mrdonutsu:

War, slavery, rule by élites—all were made easier by another new technology of control: writing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm coelacanth∅:

i'm never bored either. there's always something to think about.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm Andrew S:

I am jake, I still like video games. I'll only play one every couple of years but when i do man its bad, its like a month of immersion
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

@Fredericks: Absolutely. W/out this - I got a Library full uh other smelly lowrent NewHampshuh losers...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm Webhamster Henry:

Printing was responsible for the Reformation and all that implies.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm Derek in Atlantic City:

Intervention/ monitoring needs to be the role of the parents.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm headbed:

Default mode.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm Dean:

Speaking of New Yorker, I'd love to find the piece from several years ago, perhaps the '90s, griping about the even then worn out trope about computing power, "This greeting card has more power than the Apollo that wen to the moon." Haven't been able to locate it, even using indexes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm mrdonutsu:

Walter Benjamin, the great German Jewish cultural critic, who committed suicide while trying to escape Nazi-controlled Europe, said that “there is no document of civilization which is not at the same time a document of barbarism.” He meant that every complicated and beautiful thing humanity ever made has, if you look at it long enough, a shadow, a history of oppression. As a matter of plain historical fact, that seems right. It was a long and traumatic journey from the invention of writing to your book club’s discussion of Jodi Picoult’s latest.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:48pm Jul:

For both sides, of the argument, I believe the parents need to teach the wisdom and discipline and timing of screens activities, maybe teach them something high tech but less addicting, and something non-tech such as gardening.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:49pm rw:

According to my kids, Facebook isn't really cool anymore. It's something middle-aged moms do. There's a lot of Snap Chatting going on though.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:49pm Dean:

Elizabeth Eisenstein was a forceful proponent of the "printing is revolutionary" thesis. Adrian Johns takes her to task for it in The Nature of the Book. I incline toward Johns.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:49pm Krys O.:

Depression is mostly tied to brain chemicals and can be genetic. Saying that it is caused by external circumstances is not helpful in treating depression.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:49pm Linda Lee:

dead on, mr donutsu. of course.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:49pm Andrew S:

there are so many good tools for kids but keeping them from the distractions must be a challenge
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:50pm Linda Lee:

different shoes, same path.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:50pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Who doesn't enjoy the embrace of a screen's warm glowing warming glow?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:50pm Michael 98145:

"Alexa, what is wrong with us ??"
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:50pm Andrew S:

haha
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:51pm Linda Lee:

we were well trained in loving that glow with Captain Kangaroo, right Ken?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:51pm chris:

my son had a lot of screen time when he was in middle school. by the time he was in high school, he was spending most of his time outside. he still prefers "doing" something to spending time online.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:51pm JakeGould:

“Alexa, Siri just said you are conceited.”
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:51pm Linda Lee:

good for him chris! bravo! he's interested in his own life.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:52pm Dean:

I tell my son he should find a video game that involves res-helving books in their proper order. I mean, c'mon, kids would love it!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park:

@LL - Captain Kangaroo and Romper Room, yes.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:52pm Dean:

re-shelving
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:52pm northguineahills:

My ex-boss in his 70s used to play RPG games w/ people online from around the world of all ages and became good enough friends w/ some of them to go on trips together.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:52pm Andrew S:

Alexa, tell me how to get to Sesame Street
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:52pm Michael 98145:

@LL, Princess Summer Fall Winter Spring
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:53pm Mike Sin:

Facebook is very much like a variety of TV shows -- it's similar in that it is entertainment, but TV was always built on a premise of fantasy... and most folks knew that. The depression resulting from Facebook rolls in because folks are measuring their own lives against and perceiving it as "reality"... and their own lives can't measure up to it... they don't realize it is primarily people's "marketing," "promotion," and "press kits"... just as much fantasy, ideal, and easy answers that TV always provided.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:53pm Linda Lee:

do be a do bee. don't be a don't bee. early training babe!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:53pm JakeGould:

@Dean: There are videotapes that allow you to pretend you work in a fast food job.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:53pm JakeGould:

VIDEO GAMES!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:53pm Linda Lee:

yep yep yep
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

It's Connection - & it's No Connection @ All...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:54pm Linda Lee:

it's conditional connection. very narrowly conditional
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:54pm chris:

i've spent more time as a parent teaching him to think for himself, be in touch with what he's feeling and be able to communicate both, than banning or preventing things.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:55pm Linda Lee:

good parents make worthwhile kids. bravo!
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:55pm Dean:

That's priceless, @JakeGould. With my kids in the car I like to drive up to (closed) drive-up windows at, say, banks, and order a cheeseburger, fries...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:56pm βrian:

CogDiss: the bane of our era.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:56pm Linda Lee:

sheezis .. poor little tykes. not a chance against the bright shiny things.
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:56pm geezerette:

Chris, yes, it's one of the best things you can do for them.
  Mon. 1/22/18 6:57pm Dean:

Working in a public library in the '90s, pre-web, we taught folks how to use Gopher, WAIS, etc. Showed them how to identify jobs. With the advent of the web we taught them how to search, navigate, and so forth.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:57pm northguineahills:

Abrigato Mark y Scott
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:57pm coelacanth∅:

Mike, absolutely. also there's the physical effect of the facial muscles in a constant state of tension. it's quite obvious this would have a negative effect, physically - which results in depression as well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:57pm Ken From Hyde Park:

In today's society, parents are less apt to just send their kids outside to play in the neighborhood. Worried about kidnappers and such. They feel it's safer to keep the kids inside and then the kids go online where bad guys can prey on them anyway.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:57pm JakeGould:

@Dean: Read up on “Animal Crossing: Pocket Campground.” Unbelievable that game exists… You have to just run errands and change your life to suit the needs of random—many snotty—animals.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:58pm Linda Lee:

of course it's about the use of technology, not the technology. but who's teaching the best uses of new technology? we are! & we aren't the most appropriate teachers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:58pm Fuzzy:

meow meow turn off the computer meow and go meow outside
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 6:58pm Andrew S:

only my third time listening but right up my alley I'm hooked. Great discussion Mark & Scott cheers
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:59pm JakeGould:

I HATE BINGE WATCHING!!!! THAT IS MODERN TV!!!

BINGE! BINGE! BINGE! BINGE! BINGE! BINGE! BINGE! BINGE! BINGE!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I always id as a 'latchkey kid'. Rode my bike anywhere, anytime...Always a Media Head too - TV, radio...now this....
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 6:59pm Linda Lee:

we're being trained to develop the attention span of bacteria
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:59pm βrian:

For me, TV just lost relevance in the early 80s. But when I discovered Gopher, I thought this is kinda interesting ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 6:59pm melinda:

I struggle against the youtube vortex.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 7:00pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark and Scott!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 7:00pm Webhamster Henry:

I was a gopherhamster before I was a webhamster.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 7:00pm Linda Lee:

i don't have a problem with youtube. i think the ads make it repellant enough that i can't hang out
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 7:00pm Fuzzy:

ah, gopher...memories.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 7:00pm βrian:

@LLee: Yes, exactly.
  Mon. 1/22/18 7:00pm SeanG:

great show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 7:01pm chris:

thanks, guys!
Avatar Mon. 1/22/18 7:01pm geezerette:

Mark and Scott, fantastic show!
  Mon. 1/22/18 7:01pm Jul:

Well done fellas!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 7:01pm Linda Lee:

thanks guys
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 7:01pm Webhamster Henry:

Thanks ! You need to do a fill in some time so you get more time!
  Mon. 1/22/18 7:02pm Tom:

No sleep till
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 7:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

It's all funneled thru too few Corporations for my liking...
Cheers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 7:02pm Phil with the phone:

Thanks for joining us, tune in next week! And the next week! And the next week! (etc...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 1/22/18 7:02pm Linda Lee:

absolutely Rev. thanks to media deregulation! whee!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 7:05pm Ken From Hyde Park:

"Don't just sit there ... go watch some television!" comics.azcentral.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 1/22/18 7:23pm Krys O.:

www.psychologytoday.com...
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