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Options December 11, 2017: Documentary filmmaker Kirby Ferguson on his new series, "This Is Not A Conspiracy Theory"

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This week: conspiracy theories, free will, and whether creators online can get paid in a landscape dominated by Big Tech. A conversation with Kirby Ferguson, creator of "This Is Not A Conspiracy Theory" and "Everything Is A Remix."

Links to Kirby's work:

Episode 1 of This Is Not A Conspiracy Theory (watch previews of other episodes on the series website)
Everything Is A Remix, Kirby's breakout hit documentary from 2010-2012 (see also the special followup episode, on remixing in "The Force Awakens")
Copy This, Kirby's podcast on copyright and creativity
Postmortem: Every Frame a Painting (Kirby recommended this essay by Every Frame A Painting video creators - great read)

Other links:

Video of Skeptech 2 conference held in Monty Hall on October 26 (feat. Jon Ronson, Nancy Lublin, and Mark Hurst)

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  Documentary filmmaker Kirby Ferguson talks to Mark about his video series "This Is Not A Conspiracy Theory." Also, tech news, Uncanny Valley, and listener calls.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Options     0:00:56 (MP3 | )
  Interview with Kirby Ferguson, "This Is Not A Conspiracy Theory"    
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  Mark's comments &] Uncanny Valley    
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0:29:45 (MP3 | )
  Your calls and comments    
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0:47:15 (MP3 | )
Alexander  Catfish Blues   Options Alexander    0:59:32 (MP3 | )

Listener comments!

  Mon. 12/11/17 6:02pm melinda:

Hi Mark and techtons
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:02pm listener james from westwood:

Howdy, Mark and all! That combo on the playlist anticipates the treadmill desk by decades!
Avatar Mon. 12/11/17 6:03pm TehBadDr:

Love me some blips and bleeps, you should do a full on music program!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:04pm northguineahills:

Laser Tour, is that Major Lazer's later tour?
Avatar Mon. 12/11/17 6:05pm TehBadDr:

Is 23A the shorts. the console, or the whole darn thing!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:06pm listener james from westwood:

"This is Apple we're talking about."
[emits Miss Krabappel–esque "Ha!"]
Avatar Mon. 12/11/17 6:06pm TehBadDr:

Well that certainly sounds secure!
Avatar Mon. 12/11/17 6:07pm glenn:

convenience like when my local bank, 2 blocks away, closes up and moves 10 blocks away? that convenience?
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:07pm melinda:

Holy shit
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:09pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Good evening, Mark and Techto sapiens!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:11pm Fuzzy:

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:11pm ultradamno:

Hello technocrats. I so the facial recognition aspect of Apple X something one can opt not to do?
     Mon. 12/11/17 6:14pm Listener Robert:

Lots of things people these days call "conspiracy theories" don't even involve conspiracies. Jesse Walker's written a lot about the abuse of the term.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:15pm melinda:

@Robert good point. The term gets thrown around a lot.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:22pm david m colangelo:

know a guy was on USS Maddox when she was "attacked", he says damn sure it was faked.
Avatar    Mon. 12/11/17 6:26pm djsheilab:

Just wanted to chime in and say how much I enjoy your show. Thanks for always bringing us these fantastic, thought-provoking interviews.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:27pm Mark Hurst:

Hi all! And thanks so much, Sheila! Mutual admiration here - I love Sophisticated Boom Boom.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:27pm debt collector:

Have you folks seen world on a wire parts 1&2 by Rainer fassbinder?
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:29pm debt collector:

It’s on filmstruck and it’s about a corporation hat has built a computer model of the future and it’s replicants are hard to detect from its progenitors
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:33pm northguineahills:

Gotta look for that, debt collector.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:35pm Dean:

Luddites. That's how I want to be known. It's not a bad thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:38pm northguineahills:

@Dean, I didn't know you were in the UK in 1812-1816 and knew Ned Ludd ;)

Thanks Mark, actually leaving work and a sane hour. Cheers, and thanks for the good work!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:39pm Folsom:

BBC world service just had a program about the 170 million cameras in China. The reporter got his face scanned then started walking around a city, took 7 minutes for the cameras to ID him.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:41pm Dean:

I did not know personally the "Leicestershire imbecile," but if you hum a few bars I'll fake it, @ngh.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:41pm queems:

send n00dz
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:41pm knowitall@aol:

send nudes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:41pm northguineahills:

Sounds good to me, Dean!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:42pm listener james from westwood:

Well that FB initiative sounds completely above board and will surely never be misused by company insiders or contractors.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:44pm Dean:

Here's my face, Facebook: http://www.dreamideamachine.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/06/004.jpg
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:44pm Fuzzy:

The sheep will gladly comply.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:44pm queems:

disabling facebook was the best thing i have ever done
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:47pm Phil with the phone:

system = debugged
call at 201-209-9368
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:48pm Carmichael:

A few friends of mine couldn't wait to submit their DNA to ancestry. They think it's the best thing ever.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:49pm Tommy in Neversink:

Seems appropriate that FACEbook would scan your face
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:49pm Smokestack:

Yeah, I dumped Facebook five years ago. Never looked back
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:50pm Gnat:

Say you were a multi millionaire and wanted to start up some kind of initiative to combat the big data creepiness and fighting against its impending normalization in state services etc. What can be done to help???
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:51pm Marie:

So happy to be off FB. Hated it. the idea of looking at a co.s track record seems like common sense to me. Look around. Why should you trust any corps?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:51pm melinda:

I submitted my DNA to 23andme in hopes of getting some information that might help me with chronic illness, but I wouldn't have done it solely for ancestry info.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:52pm queems:

if nothing else, now i never have to read about my family’s shitty political opinions
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:52pm TedfromOakland:

to read about the Luddites: 'The Making of the English Working Class' by E.P. Thompson. Definitive work of the history of the period.
Avatar    Mon. 12/11/17 6:52pm YesthatMattHall:

Not to freak everyone out, but here's an off-the-shelf, totally-possible-right-now use of face-recognition tech and drones for targeted assassination.
Bummer.
www.youtube.com...
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:53pm Dean:

Absolutely, @TedfromOakland. For a more brief account, Kevin Robins & Frank Webster, Times of the Technoculture.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:54pm oogoo:

The modern state is designed to become the ideal form of government to protect the rights of the individual. When those rights are not protected any longer, the institutions of the state Are most definately Conspiring against the individual freedom they are entrusted to guarantee.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:55pm Fuzzy:

If you go to the airport to catch your flight, they'll scan your face -- it's only a couple of airports now, but you know that eventually it will be the norm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:55pm ultradamno:

Seems like a gift to law enforcement. Instead of having to try and compel a password out of Apple they just hold your head still.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:55pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I wonder how this plays into the impending demise of net neutrality? "For an additional $9.99 per month, we'll keep your personal data out of government's hands."
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:56pm Folsom:

link to bbc article : www.bbc.com...
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:56pm Marie:

FB is amoral
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:56pm Gio the Engineer:

Mark is definitely holding up the radar gun
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:57pm arrow apple:

NY plates in NJ and the first question from the cop is - Have you ever had a NJ license. Yep. Every traffic light. Look up.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:58pm queems:

@ultradamno that is precisely why i only have a passcode. as long as it isn’t mandatory to set these features up, there’s no way that i will use them
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:58pm Carmichael:

That happened to me on the Bay Bridge.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:58pm Fuzzy:

Encrypted phone with 6-digit pin. Need PIN to boot phone also.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:59pm fredfromfrance:

@gnat : since the states are having more and more difficulties to govern and companies power are increasing in governing potential, the gathering of both since more than credible. If i had money, i would help philosophers and artists that are engaged in new ways of thinking that can pervert the use of technologies and act as some kind of popular lobby, a natural lobby like could have been underground music scenes or things like that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:59pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 6:59pm Fuzzy:

8 digits, actually.
  Mon. 12/11/17 6:59pm Marie:

Can someone please hack the videos of Trump in the Moscow hotel>
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 7:00pm Phil with the phone:

see you next week technocletians
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 12/11/17 7:00pm listener james from westwood:

Thanks, Mark!
  Mon. 12/11/17 7:00pm bill:

please be careful, rentals have and should be able to identify owner. I lovethis show, power to the people.
  Mon. 12/11/17 7:00pm Dean:

Glenn Greenwald's perennial lament: that people roll over and take it because "I have nothing to hide," never considering that might have plenty to secure and protect.
  Mon. 12/11/17 7:00pm Gnat:

looks like it's "Surveillance Camera Man"
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