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A weekly adventure in phonography: field recordings, brainwave therapy, rattling noises and other esoteric dance music.

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Options October 10, 2017: light and lively

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Artist Track Album Label Year Images New
Becoming Vision  Orissa   Options Hindu heart    2017 
Tim Prebble  Palliser Bay   Options EDITION 001 Palliser Bay  HISSandaROAR  2017 
Scutopus  Ice falling from trees into thawing duck pond, Winter 2016   Options Seasons    2017 
Becoming Vision  On the road   Options Vrindavan    2017 
Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement  Jungle Is A Shapeshifter   Options Ambient Black Magic  Hospital Productions  2017 
Airhead  Antipolo   Options   Hemlock Recordings  2017 
Butch  Dope   Options   Play It Say It  2015 
Danny Daze & Shokh  Aire   Options Speicher 98  Kompakt Extra  2017 
Helena Hauff  Gift   Options   Ninja Tune  2017 
Robert Aiki Aubrey Lowe  Yawa Sdlrow   Options Marlek  MILD VILNC   2017 

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La Bataille de Neige   Options





Sandro Mussida  Ventuno Costellazioni Invisibili (a) binaural recording   Options Ventuno Costellazioni Invisibili  Metrica  2017 
Die Angel  Kitka   Options Entropien I  Cosmo Rhythmatic  2017 
Richard Horowitz  Never Tech No Foreign Answer   Options Eros In Arabia  Freedom To Spend  2017/1981 
Ploy  Footprints In Solid Rock (Peder Mannerfelt's Rock Solid Remix)   Options Remixes - 2  Timedance  2017 
HAEX-HRLL  North Of Warren   Options Further From The Truth LP  Giallo Disco  2017 
Electra  Dream Space Inbetween   Options Dream House Volume 1.2  Blind Jacks Journey   2013 
Funky Green Dogs From Outer Space  Reach For Me   Options Don't Techno For An Answer Volume 2  TRIBAL America/Guerilla  1992 

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Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm David D:

Thanks for that Jesse - and this sounds amazing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:05pm gloomsday:

i hope everyone's having a nice evening so far :) this is just what i needed as my workday winds down.
Avatar 7:06pm northguineahills:

When Jesse comes on, it means I've been at work waaaay tooo long. (I'm still working off the week I missed b/c of Irma, tonight should be the last late/late evening).
Avatar 7:06pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hey David and gloomsday, welcome to your Tuesday soundscape.
David, any time!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:07pm Dave in Vermont:

tuned in for the first time in a long time and thankful
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:10pm gloomsday:

glad to hear that tonight's the last late evening for you, northguineahills. you were working late last week if i remember correctly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:11pm gloomsday:

this track is absolutely beautiful.
Avatar 7:11pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hey northguineahills, have a drink on me!
Hi Dave, as always, welcome back!
Avatar 7:13pm Mayuko:

Good evening Jesse! My internet has been not reliable today but listening now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:13pm melinda:

Hi people!
Avatar 7:15pm glenn:

hello. www.panoramitalia.com...
Avatar 7:15pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hey Mayuko! You can play the game of is this the recording or the internet's down and that's just the real life neighbors..
Avatar 7:17pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hi melinda!
Welcome Glenn!
Avatar 7:18pm northguineahills:

Yep, I was working late last week as well, but that was so I could get off at noon last Friday to take a party bus to Orlando to see a US soccer game.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:22pm Webhamster Henry:

I'm enjoying this little trip to the sea!
Avatar 7:24pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hey Henry! Palliser Bay is on the southern end of the North island of New Zealand for everyone's visualization cues
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:25pm coelacanth∅:

hello Jesse and Jessters
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:25pm Webhamster Henry:

Google Earthing it now!
Avatar 7:26pm Jesse Kaminsky:

heya coelacanthø!
Avatar 7:27pm northguineahills:

Well, Jesse answered my question.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:27pm listener james from westwood:

Evening Jesse and all! This is a deeply calming track. I do hope to make it to New Zealand someday.
Avatar 7:30pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hey James, let me take your brain there!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:32pm Webhamster Henry:

That bay is not too far from where the MS Mikhail Lermontov sank. I took that boat to Europe in 1976.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:33pm melinda:

I'd like to visit both New Zealand and Australia.
Avatar 7:33pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Just think, if you hadn't gotten off in Europe you could have visited the area afterall!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:34pm gloomsday:

me too, melinda. new zealand is way way up there on my list of places to visit. this track is only feeding the travel bug.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:36pm Webhamster Henry:

I'd certainly like to go to NZ!
Avatar 7:36pm northguineahills:

ole! I'll check you for a second when I get home before I go off to see the last US World Cup qualifier (at a pub, this time). Time to leave the office and dodge the feral cats!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:36pm melinda:

I made a recording on Casco Bay last week, but it did not sound oceanic like this.
Avatar 7:38pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Good luck northguineahills, say hi to the cats!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:39pm melinda:

I miss cats.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:41pm gloomsday:

coming home to my little feline is one of my daily joys. they're such fascinating and silly creatures.
Avatar 7:46pm glenn:

i have two you can have, if they don't start behaving a little better.
Avatar 7:46pm glenn:

the adorable little bastards.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:47pm gloomsday:

aww, hehe! are they being wily little beasties?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:48pm coelacanth∅:

i've recorded ice falling into a glass bowl of water (falling because i was dropping it) -slowed it down, added some echo. pretty cool. i'm not hearing that crackling sound in this recording though...
Avatar 7:48pm glenn:

well, when they're not sleeping.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:52pm melinda:

I love cats, but they can be real pains in the ass, too.
Avatar 7:53pm still b/p:

Was back down on the Casco Bay waterfront by E. Prom trail this afternoon. Lots of good sound but, other than waves lapping on old beat granite sea wall, most of it human-made: general recreational and work boat traffic, cruise ship long horn blasts before departure, bullhorned instruction and kid noise from small flocks of little boats practicing sailing-school maneuvers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:53pm melinda:

Knocking over water glasses was always a favorite.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:53pm listener james from westwood:

Ages ago I bookmarked, on a now-moribund computer, a link to a recording of deep lake ice cracking. Sounded like sci-fi lasers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm coelacanth∅:

i don't miss cats. i'm in their company fairly often; i don't need to live with them.
Avatar 7:55pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Tonight's images are of paintings by Barbara Takenaga: www.barbaratakenaga.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm melinda:

@b/p haha, that's where I was and there is a lot of human-made noise. Some good bird tweets, mixed with service vehicles. I like the Eastern Prom trail.
Avatar 7:57pm geezerette:

Hello, Jesse and folks!
Images look like Deco Dreamtime.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:57pm melinda:

Those cruise ship blasts are loud.
Avatar 7:58pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hey geezerette! Yeah they definitely have the dots for it!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:58pm coelacanth∅:

i haven't heard a thing from my speakers in maybe 10 minutes...is this "10:33"?
Avatar 7:58pm northguineahills:

iTunes won't turn on at home. Been trying for five minutes (the pop-up has been freezing as well, but that's on my end).
Avatar 7:59pm Jesse Kaminsky:

@coelacanthø, you should be hearing sounds from the street in Vrindavan, India
Avatar 8:00pm northguineahills:

finally, I was about to hook my phone to my stereo.
Avatar 8:00pm Jesse Kaminsky:

I mean you could be
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:01pm melinda:

I like the Indian street sounds.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:01pm coelacanth∅:

james i've heard that in nature (or something like it) - unfortunately before i had a good recording device. pretty astounding.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:06pm coelacanth∅:

i guess my player quit right at the end of the ice falling into a pond. 'didn't hear any of "on the road" until now.
...one of the hazards of listening to ambient/field recordings. i was waiting for something to happen that i could hear!
Avatar 8:08pm Jesse Kaminsky:

You can read some words about the recordings from India by Becoming Vision on their bandcamp: becomingvision.bandcamp.com...
Avatar 8:10pm still b/p:

After a few decades here, in last few years I'm enjoying many more sessions of waterfront idleness, (distracted) reading, scene enjoyment. Particularly there for eager boat-watching...gimme handsome older powerboats or classically styled (though insanely expensive) new ones instead of the crass white fiberglass models that unappealingly make something humpy, chumpy and stocky out of their would-be streamlining. Ptooey. Welcome to Boat Bash Corner everybody.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:11pm coelacanth∅:

the 3rd definition of "music" in the funk & wagnalls comprehensive standard dictionary (©1933): "3.any pleasing succession of sounds."
Avatar 8:12pm Jesse Kaminsky:

hmm, does it have to be pleasing?
Avatar 8:13pm still b/p:

Succession of Sound has the ring of an early 70s pop soul/R&B group name.
Avatar 8:17pm northguineahills:

Cool, this is on Hospital Productions!
Avatar 8:18pm Jesse Kaminsky:

This is Dominick Fernow so pretty much is Hospital Productions
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:19pm coelacanth∅:

i think so. the first 2 definitions: "1. the art of rhythmic combination of tones 2.a composition executed according to musical rule." - so there we can have what's undeniably music, though maybe nobody likes it; but if it's a noise, like say the sound of someone vomiting so it doesn't fall into the first 2 categories, and no one likes it, then i think it's not music.
(though somebody somewhere does in fact like the sound of someone vomiting)
Avatar 8:22pm northguineahills:

Wow! This is very different from most of the other stuff of his I've heard. He used to have a noise record store in the East Village (where a reggae rec store used to be), I got a lot of great stuff there, nice lad!
Avatar 8:24pm Jesse Kaminsky:

@coelacanthø, there's no way to know that someone somewhere doesn't like a given thing so we pretty much have to assume that everything is probably music then. Ultimately the question to me is like "is it art," not nearly as useful a question as "is it interesting"
Avatar 8:25pm Jesse Kaminsky:

@northguineaills, yeah, this project has been going for a while now I think but getting more and more ambient as he goes it seems
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:28pm coelacanth∅:

Jesse i agree; though maybe we can define it subjectively and say (i.e.) "it's music to me. it's not music to him." (which of course means -it it music.)
Avatar 8:28pm northguineahills:

Thanks Jesse, I'm out. Hear ya next week. I tried to have my donations go to yours and Kurt's, but my receipt just said I donated generically to all of WFMU. I want the GTDS to be repped, so I just asked Joe McGasko to make it so. Adios!
Avatar 8:29pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Awesome, thanks very much northguineaills!! Have a great week!
Avatar 8:29pm northguineahills:

@coel: I think I'm even at post-Cageian sense of the definition of music at this point.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:31pm coelacanth∅:

anyway, i was surprised to find that 3rd definition in this dictionary; which i knew to contain this: "pagan 1.pertaining to pagans; heathenish
2.a worshiper of false gods; a heathen; idolater 3.an irreligious person."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:32pm coelacanth∅:

ngh, i'm going to have to meditate on that!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:41pm Webhamster Henry:

From my top 10 list of 2013:
Is it over? A collection of Not Listening Pieces (Not Listening Space: 2013)
What is music? Up until now, it's more or less been defined as organized sound. John Cage extended this with the recognition that the act of listening itself organizes sound.
Well, the folks at Not Listening Space have taken that a step further: not even paying attention organizes sound. This is a collection of text instructions by Odine Polly Ferris, which you are encouraged not to read or interpret in any way. It's my guess, not having read the book myself, that you were actually participating in a Not Listening Space piece right up until the moment you read about it here.
Avatar 8:51pm still b/p:

Assessing the unheard: Groucho in The Cocoanuts -- "The first musical number on the program will be a piccolo solo, which we will skip."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:52pm coelacanth∅:

ha! amusing, but i may not agree...or i may not understand!
- the one thing i think is that all sound is organised, so therefore music - even if no one hears it; possibly and probably by different elements ("sources"; "composers") that may or may not be aware of or collaborating with the other elements, or even aware of anything at all.
Avatar 8:55pm still b/p:

I will skip....out, to hear a friend playing music tonight. She always wants me to play spoons, which I don't do very well. Enjoyed these tracks. Thanks.
Avatar 8:57pm Jesse Kaminsky:

hey still b/p, yes! always opt for the live music if you can!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:57pm coelacanth∅:

still that's funny. i love Groucho.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:59pm coelacanth∅:

i was going to go back out for live music. i still have my shoes on, but i'm apprehensive about commitment. i have to have an early start tomorrow.
Avatar 9:01pm Jesse Kaminsky:

@coelacanthø, the word "organized" can be tough, it's tempting to think that organized things have to have an organizer and so therefore music must be a product of consciousness. You could also think of the term to be organized like molecular structures, which are more or less self-forming, then it really comes from the nature of sound production itself. Or another idea might be that the organization goes hand in hand with the perception of the sounds and there is no objective music, only subjective..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07pm Doug Schulkind:

Yawa everybody!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07pm coelacanth∅:

- the latter being what Cage was going for?
...i don't think it has to be consciously created, as long as it's consciously perceived. i've laid in bed in the morning listening to the world get going and perceived it as a symphony. so in terms of perception it's a product of consciousness, but not in terms of it's creation.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08pm coelacanth∅:

hey Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14pm Doug Schulkind:

Hey, coel!
Avatar 9:18pm Jesse Kaminsky:

Hiya Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:19pm coelacanth∅:

the 2nd idea has me relating it to some terminology that's got me into unpleasantness in a completely different field.
i've said (regarding a health issue) "the body's designed to work [such & such] a way" - and people assume i'm referring to being "designed by God", just because i used the word designed; but my intention was along the lines of that concept of molecularly; or "designed by evolution", or even just a succession of events...so it's "designed" by nature...organised.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21pm coelacanth∅:

yeah i really like these pictures.
Avatar 9:23pm Jesse Kaminsky:

They're really big, wall sized some of them. She has a wall piece up now at Mass Moca which I haven't been able to see yet
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25pm coelacanth∅:

my computer will freeze if i go to her site now. i have to wait till i'm on a different one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25pm Doug Schulkind:

"Ventuno Costellazioni Invisibili (a) binaural recording" by Sandro Mussida from Ventuno Costellazioni Invisibili." is my new favorite sentence in the (mostly) English language.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26pm melinda:

coel that reminds me of an episode my dad told me about that's kind of the reverse of what you described. He was seeing a doctor for a shoulder injury and commented that human shoulders hadn't fully adapted to our upright state (or something like that) and the doctor said he didn't believe in evolution.
Avatar 9:29pm Jesse Kaminsky:

That's the funny thing about evolution though it doesn't really need you to believe in it in order to work as an idea
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:31pm coelacanth∅:

melinda - wow! that's surprising both because i forget that even doctors are sometimes not very smart, but also because that's pretty unprofessional of him to say it to his patient.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:31pm melinda:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32pm melinda:

What could have been an interesting conversation about anatomy came to a screeching halt.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32pm coelacanth∅:

i've tried to tell people they can both believe in (their) god ("God") AND acknowledge evolution. they ain't havin' it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34pm melinda:

I may have used the word 'designed' in the way you described, but it does give people ammunition if they want to see you as a closet theist.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38pm coelacanth∅:

haha, it's true....but i have a tough time altering the way i communicate to accommodate others. my life might be easier if i could do it but i'm stubborn - as my posts on the wfmu comment boards sometimes are testimonial to.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40pm melinda:

troublemaker, haha
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40pm coelacanth∅:

(i actually don't think of myself as stubborn! ...but maybe in that regard)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Jesse! Excellent program.
see y'all
Avatar 10:00pm Jesse Kaminsky:

thanks everyone!
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