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Options February 8, 2017: Punk Ethnography
Tracks from pioneering collections by Parallel World, Sublime Frequencies, Yaala Yaala (see image below), Awesome Tapes from Africa, Sahel Sounds, Akuphone, PetPet's Tapes, and DJ /rupture.

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Artist Track Album Label Year Comments Approx. start time
 
Music behind DJ:
Bodega Pop 
Intro   Options Bodega Pop Live    2017     
Yol Alarong  Cyclo   Options Cambodian Rocks  Parallel World  1996    0:05:33 ()
Ros Sereysothea  Chnam oun Dop-Pram Muy   Options Cambodian Rocks  Parallel World  1996    0:08:57 ()
Sinn Sisamouth  Srolanh Srey Touch   Options Cambodian Rocks  Parallel World  1996    0:12:43 ()
Pan Ron  Rom Jongvak Twist   Options Cambodian Rocks  Parallel World  1996    0:16:26 ()
Liev Tuk  Rom Sue Sue   Options Cambodian Rocks  Parallel World  1996    0:18:35 ()
 
Music behind DJ:
Sun City Girls 
Blue Mambo   Options Torch of the Mystics  Abduction  1990    0:21:20 ()
Haba Haba Group   Sitogol #1   Options Folk and Pop Sounds of Sumatra Vol. 1  Sublime Frequencies  2003    0:28:01 ()
Unknown Artists  Radio Jakarta #3   Options Radio Java  Sublime Frequencies  2003    0:32:41 ()
Unknown Artists  Kuta Quintet   Options Night Recordings from Bali  Sublime Frequencies  2003    0:39:38 ()
Mar Mar Aye  Someday He Will Return   Options Princess Nicotine: Folk And Pop Sounds Of Myanmar (Burma) Vol. 1  Sublime Frequencies  2004    0:43:32 ()
Unknown Artists  Radio Essaouira   Options Radio Morocco  Sublime Frequencies  2004    0:46:13 ()
Unknown Artists  Damascus Between the Lines   Options I Remember Syria  Sublime Frequencies  2004    0:50:54 ()
Unknown Artists  Voice of Peace?   Options Radio Palestine: Sounds of the Eastern Mediterranean  Sublime Frequencies  2004    0:55:35 ()
 
Music behind DJ:
Sun City Girls 
Esoterica of Abyssynia   Options Torch of the Mystics  Abduction  1990    0:58:30 ()
Pekos / Yoro Diallo  Track 1   Options Pekos / Yoro Diallo  Yaala Yaala  2007  Mali  1:07:06 ()
Unknown Artists  Track 7   Options Bougouni Yaalali  Yaala Yaala  2007  Mali  1:20:19 ()
Toba Seydou Traore  Maransa   Options Toba Seydou Traore  Yaala Yaala  2010  Mali  1:27:08 ()
 
Music behind DJ:
Sun City Girls 
The Flower   Options Torch of the Mystics  Abduction  1990    1:36:25 ()
Boureima Disco et le Super Bonkaney  Ethnocentrisme   Options Gahame Bane  Awesome Tapes from Africa      1:47:08 ()
Ata Kak  Bome Nnwom   Options Ata Kak  Awesome Tapes from Africa      1:49:51 ()
Bola  Tigantabame   Options Volume 7  Awesome Tapes from Africa  2012    1:55:17 ()
Tondjon  Imadatji (Remix)   Options Niyake  Awesome Tapes from Africa      2:02:20 ()
 
Music behind DJ:
Hailu Mergia and the Walias 
Musicawi Silt   Options   Awesome Tapes from Africa      2:08:06 ()
Group Anmataff  Tinariwen   Options Music from Saharan Cellphones  Sahel Sounds  2010    2:13:46 ()
Orchestre National De Mauritanie  Kamlat   Options Orchestre National de Mauritanie  Sahel Sounds  2013    2:19:01 ()
Mdou Moctar  Anar   Options Mdou Moctar / Brainstorm Split 7"  Sahel Sounds      2:24:12 ()
 
Music behind DJ:
Sun City Girls 
Papa Legba   Options Torch of the Mystics  Abduction  1990    2:28:59 ()
Sothy  Lam Seung Bang Fei   Options Chansons Laotiennes  Akuphone  1980  Laos / France  2:37:58 ()
Banteay Ampil Band  Destroy the Communist Viet!   Options Cambodian Liberation Songs  Akuphone  1983  Cambodia | http://www.forcedexposure.com/Artists/BANTEAY.AMPIL.BAND.html  2:42:09 ()
Menanti Musafir  A1   Options Menanti Musafir  PetPets' Tapes      2:46:55 ()
Panorama  Black Mama   Options DJ /rupture Presents Ciafrica  Dutty Artz  2010  Côte d'Ivoire  2:50:20 ()
Nasty  J'Reste Une Hard   Options DJ /rupture Presents Ciafrica  Dutty Artz  2010  Côte d'Ivoire  2:52:12 ()
Manusa ft. Ren K  Babi   Options DJ /rupture Presents Ciafrica  Dutty Artz  2010  Côte d'Ivoire  2:57:10 ()
 
Music behind DJ:
Catrina Paslaru 
Hei La Bodega   Options Hei La Bodega - Carnaval!    2000    2:58:24 ()

Listener comments!

  Wed. 2/8/17 6:59pm Bill:

First!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:00pm Gary:

Hey Bill! I'm worried about a lag here ... not sure what's going on ... but we'll get it pulled together
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:00pm Gary:

Tell me if / when you hear the theme song
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:02pm Gary:

Hear it yet?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 7:03pm David D:

You're on!
  Wed. 2/8/17 7:04pm Bill:

Sounds OK
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 7:04pm melinda:

hi Gary and others!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:06pm Gary:

HI Gang!
  Wed. 2/8/17 7:10pm Doug Schulkind:

G A R Y !
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:11pm Gary:

Doug! Melinda! David!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 7:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Oh - extraordinary again this week?? Ho-hum! (harhar)...
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:20pm Gary:

RevRab! Tonight's show is actually on the easier side for me b/c all this stuff is pre-collected ;-)
  Wed. 2/8/17 7:23pm MrFab:

Yo Gary! Yep, that Pan Ron BookerT-from-an-alternate-universe is indeed classic. Methinks 'twas posted on my blog ages ago.
GREAT idea for a show, really looking forward to this one.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:29pm Gary:

Mr. Fab!
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 7:31pm hyde:

running late. dangit, i missed the Cambodian set! ah well, i have that record.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:32pm Gary:

Hyde! On vinyl?
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 7:35pm hyde:

that one i think i have on CD.(note: all my analog crap is in storage! can't check this stuff.) I do have decent selection of Sublime Frequencies stuff on vinyl, tho.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:36pm Gary:

I'm curious mostly because the original vinyl recording had fewer tracks than the later CD version -- just wondering if what I played was actually on the vinyl (I only have the CD)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 7:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...I wish there was a 24/7 Sublime Frequencies stream...
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:38pm Gary:

Ooh! Nice idea, RevRab
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:39pm Gary:

Brian Turner had Alan Bishop and Rob Millis DJing on his show this week: wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 7:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...what a great stream it'd be to fall asleep to for instance (sounds like a backhanded compliment for radio - but we all know it isn't)...
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 7:44pm quinn:

sooo good i needed this
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:45pm Gary:

Quinn! Glad we could oblige
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 7:49pm hyde:

@Rev rab unfortunately that might interfere with my falling asleep to the Drummer Stream!
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 7:49pm tim abdellah:

Ooh, I'm just in time! Hi Gary and Friends!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:50pm Gary:

Tim!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 7:53pm David D:

Fine choices, Gary!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 7:54pm Gary:

Thanks, David
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:03pm Doug Schulkind:

Bodega Pop Live doesn't hit the spot, it wraps up the spot in a velvet shawl, places it in a space module, and rockets it into the omnisphere.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:05pm melinda:

Lomax
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 8:05pm tim abdellah:

lomax
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:07pm MrFab:

You're not too familiar with Sun City Girls, Gary? Well, lemme tell ya, it is a vast sea of decades worth of music and sounds. Not even sure where you'd begin.
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 8:09pm hyde:

@Mr Fab haha, agreed
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:10pm Gary:

I'm totally excited to have a new band to go research!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:13pm Scraps:

Sun City Girls are sometimes great, sometimes crap. But they are out there for sure, and I would think that lots of FMU listeners would appreciate at least some of them
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:15pm Gary:

The chapter on them in the book is pretty hilarious
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:15pm Gary:

Intentionally, and in a good way, I should add
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:17pm Scraps:

If I were to recommend one album -- tentatively -- I would point to 330,003 Crossdressers From Beyond the Rig Veda
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:21pm Gary:

Ha ha, that's such a great title
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:25pm Dean:

Is the entire Yaala Yaala catalog this good?
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:26pm Gary:

Everything I've heard is BHO*-level good.


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*Blow Head Off
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:26pm Gary:

www.dragcity.com...
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:27pm Gary:

HI Dean!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:27pm Gary:

And Scraps!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:27pm Scraps:

Also Dante's Disneyland Inferno. Like Crossdressers, it was a 2cd set and released in 1996. I got into them on those two and a few others, but when I tried to get most of them, I discovered the sometimes-crap problem
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 8:29pm tim abdellah:

This Malian stuff is fantastic!
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:30pm Dean:

Just bought the 6CD package.
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:31pm MrFab:

Yep, this Yaala Yaala stuff is spectacular. is it all from Mali?
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:32pm Gary:

I *think* so, Mr. Fab ... not 100% sure, but pretty sure
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:33pm Dean:

Judging from notes here: http://www.dragcity.com/products/yaala-yaala-bundle
...yes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:39pm Scraps:

Drag City is a good indie label, basically
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:41pm Dean:

On Drag City's contact page: "Drag City no longer accepts demos. Unless they're amazing."
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:43pm Scraps:

Silver Jews, Gastr del Sol, Smog, Will Oldham.... etc. Lots of good stuff
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:46pm Scraps:

post-punk
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:48pm Scraps:

(referring to the talk)
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:49pm MrFab:

wouldn't Luaka Bop be considered 'punk ethnography,' preceding 'Cambodian Rock'? Founded by someone from the punk scene, first releases were collections of stuff he found poking round in Brazilian record stores, marketed to the alt-rock crowd...
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:50pm Gary:

Yes! I don't know why I didn't include Luaka Bop here ...
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:51pm MrFab:

Were they mentioned in the book?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:52pm melinda:

Boogie time
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:52pm Gary:

Yes, they are, Mr. Fab -- LB's absence is my shortcoming, not theirs!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:52pm Scraps:

that's what I meant, though; Talking Heads were a post-punk band, not punk (in my opinion, of course)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:53pm Scraps:

Or side-punk, whatever
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:53pm melinda:

I am still figuring out what is punk and what is post-punk.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:54pm Gary:

But Punk Ethnography is a much better title than Post-Punk Ethnography ... or, wait ... is it?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:54pm Scraps:

;-)
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:54pm Gary:

@Melinda ... you and everyone else!
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:55pm MrFab:

That's OK, Gary, I'm sure we're all pretty familiar with Luaka Bops catalog. I was just thinking that they could be considered the original 'punk ethnographers.'
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:55pm Scraps:

I know!

:-) :-)
  Wed. 2/8/17 8:56pm MrFab:

You're not playing Ata Kak's vocals? They're hysterical! The african Shooby Taylor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:56pm melinda:

I am bad with musical categories in general.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:57pm Gary:

@Mr Fab -- I played the wrong version! Argh.
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 8:58pm hyde:

i'm kind of loathe to get into the weeds here (and it's awful weedy) but i dunno, being 14 in 1977 i sure considered Talking Heads '77 to be pretty, y'know, punk
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 8:58pm Gary:

I love that What's Happening in Pernambuco CD
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 8:58pm Scraps:

Damon Knight, when asked what is science fiction, said "Science fiction is what I point to when I say 'science fiction'."
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:02pm Scraps:

And when I was a 17-year-old punk, who liked Talking Heads, I didn't think they were punk. What they were (I thought) was New Wave.

And it is weeds, and growing thicker.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:03pm Scraps:

It Doesn't Matter (Of Course)
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:03pm Gary:

My first Talking Heads record was More Songs about Buildings and Food, which I think I read about in Creem Magazine ... I remember being semi-frightened by it, but loving it, slowly, with repeated listenings
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:05pm Scraps:

Oh man, I loved More Songs, to the point where I considered it my favorite rock album for a time
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:06pm MrFab:

I remember when everything was called New Wave. The Sex Pistols were New Wave. Dont remember a distinction until punk went hardcore early 80s.
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:06pm Dean:

The only Talking Heads record I've ever really embraced is the "Love Goes to Building on Fire" 45rpm. Pretty sure I still have it. From the first album and beyond, though, I just never got the band, except for bits and pieces. Yet I adore My Life in the Bush of Ghosts.
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:07pm Dean:

I recall very clearly being introduced to the phenomenon, if not yet the music, of "punk" (namely, the Pistols) in 1976.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:08pm Uncle Michael:

I bought 'Talking Heads '77 in '78 and it was life changing.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:08pm Gary:

My introduction to punk was an episode of 60 Minutes. I remember this band singing "Stab your back! Stab your back!" It scared the holy shit out of me. Kids were cutting themselves and singing weird evil shit. Within a few days, I think I had picked up my first punk album, but I don't remember now whether it was The Clash or Sex Pistols, or what
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:09pm Scraps:

I think Americans have a wider conception of what punk is than the Brits do. And I fall with the Brits.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:11pm Scraps:

I still remember a person calling Jonathan Richman punk, and I just stared in astonishment.
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 9:11pm hyde:

haha, fair. let's just leave it as weeds. i like Fear of Music most of all, though I love Remain in Light too. And More Songs. and '77,. after all that it's all pretty downhill. i do get the idea that they were always post-punk though. my experience is just different from that.
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:12pm Dean:

Traveled to London in late '76, where I purchased the first Pistols' single in, I think, a Woolworth's or British cognate.

First Modern Lovers album is certainly proto-punk. I mean, "Road Runner"? "Pablo Picasso"?
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 9:13pm hyde:

@Gary hehe, my intro to punk also comes thru corporate mass media, which is sort of as un-punk as it gets
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 9:13pm tim abdellah:

Great show, Gary! I gotta roll. Catch you soon.
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 9:14pm hyde:

i saw the Remain in Light tour! and i have to say, it was amazing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:14pm Uncle Michael:

I love Remain In Light. I'm in favor of as much cultural appropriation as possible.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:15pm Gary:

Uncle Michael!
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:15pm Dean:

"Stab your back!..." is from one of the greatest punk records of all time, DAMNED DAMNED DAMNED. I adore that album, still.

Remain in Light, for me, has moments, owing mostly to the musicians who augment the core band. But I can't endure it in full. It's mostly Byrne, who is always too clever by half. (WTF that means.)
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 9:15pm hyde:

@UM without cultural appropriation, there would be no crab rangoon
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:15pm Uncle Michael:

The new Tinariwen album is wonderful. It comes out Friday and what I have planned precludes me from playing any of it till the following week.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:16pm Gary:

Night, Tim!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:17pm Gary:

Oh! Can't wait to hear it, Michael
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:17pm Uncle Michael:

Special guests on it. I'll play a track on the 17th that features Mark Lanegan and Kurt Vile.
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:17pm MrFab:

"Remain In Light" was no less than a (musical) life-changing event for 14-year-old me. It introduced me to African polyrhtyhms and made me appreciate funk. Western beats would always seem too simple. i went from there to Sunny Ade, then to Fela, and here we are.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:18pm Scraps:

To me, Modern Lovers are rock. And yeah, and I could hear them as proto-punk. But.... I knew lots of people who got into the Modern Lovers, easily, who were made uneasy by punk. I don't know... everybody's has a separate history, I'm beginning to think
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:19pm Scraps:

Uncle Michael, yes!

Of course, I can say that, being a Privileged White Male.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:20pm Uncle Michael:

The Modern Lovers are such a clear echo of the Velvets.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:21pm Scraps:

Wow, really?
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:21pm Gary:

There's a great live recording where Jonathan kind of jokes about that -- it's been so long, tho, I can't remember now what album it's from ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:22pm Scraps:

Never thought of that. Hm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:23pm Uncle Michael:

Yes, really. Sure, Richman's personality is nothing like Reed's but the inspiration to just express exactly what's on your mind with as little artifice as possible seems obvious to me
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:23pm Gary:

There's also a song "Velvet Underground" from one of his albums ... from the 90s I think?
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:24pm MrFab:

Richman recorded a tribute song called "Velvet Underground", but really only the earliest Modern Lovers are Velvets influenced, e.g. "Roadrunner" is basically a "Sister Ray" rewrite.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:24pm Gary:

What Uncle M said!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:24pm Gary:

Whoa, mind blown, Mr. Fab -- I can totally hear that
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:25pm Scraps:

Reed lack of artifice is overstated (by him, too). He was a poet, too.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:26pm Gary:

Lack of artifice, or *flatness of affect* ... :-P
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:28pm Uncle Michael:

Either way, Gary. I can absolutely imagine a young R.R. hearing the Velvets and thinking, "permission!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:28pm Uncle Michael:

*J.R.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:28pm Scraps:

Lack of artifice is an artifice
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:28pm Dean:

Per Trouser Press, "The first Modern Lovers album was cobbled together by Beserkley supremo Matthew King Kaufman from demos, the bulk of which had been produced by John Cale in 1972 when it looked as if the band would be signed to Warner Bros."
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:29pm Scraps:

(Sometimes)
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:29pm Gary:

You don't have to be sharp to see flat
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:30pm coelacanth∅:

greetings Gary and Bodeganarians
...been here on/off since 7 but finally committed a few minutes ago, i think. (i'm working)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:30pm Uncle Michael:

Scraps, I think I disagree. It's a choice. I'm not saying it's not conscious. But I think it's too easy to dismiss a lack of mannerisms as a mannerism.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:30pm Gary:

coelacanth∅!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:33pm Scraps:

I hear Richman's lack of artifice as genuine. Reed, I don't know. I sometimes hear Reed as very deliberate. And that's fine, I mean.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:34pm Uncle Michael:

I never know who to trust.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:34pm Scraps:

:-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:35pm Uncle Michael:

I may have heard Bombino before the cell phone albums.
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:36pm Dean:

Does lack of artifice refer to a natural, unstudied, spontaneous quality in performance? Or to an absence of pretension, of faking it?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:36pm Scraps:

What matters is the words, not the motive behind them. (to me, to me)
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:37pm Dean:

Seems to me both Richman and Reed exhibit both of these qualities on occasion, other times not.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:39pm Uncle Michael:

@Dean Both? Neither? I think a performer can absorb a repertoire of performance mannerisms and then employ them unconsciously and spontaneously. I also think someone like J.R. is remarkable for not ever having done so. He's not the only spontaneous and sincere performer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:39pm Scraps:

The words we can argue with; the motives we have to trust our telepathy
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:39pm Uncle Michael:

I tend to trust my lying eyes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:44pm coelacanth∅:

i had to scroll up when i saw what y'all are talking about because i just don't see any connection between VU and JR. the music isn't even slightly similar (at least to the early, good, velvets) and Reed's personality was quite outside himself much of the time; whereas richman was/is all about himself.
i cannot imagine Reed tolerating richman if they where in the same room.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:45pm Scraps:

Reed admired Delmore Schwartz, a very conscious artist. I believe Reed was a conscious artist. Part of being a rock star was being an unconscious artist. Reed navigated those waters awesomely.
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:46pm Dean:

Trusting one's lying eyes is, pretty much precisely, willingly suspending disbelief, isn't it? It's a characteristic of the audience, not the performer. But "performance mannerisms"--are these the same as techniques? I think of, say, Cecilia Bartoli, a supreme mezzo-soprano who is obviously steeped in training and technique, a quality that emerges when you hear her sing. Yet spontaneity doesn't suffer to my ear.
  Wed. 2/8/17 9:47pm Dean:

Pretty sure Richman deliberately emulated VU early on.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:48pm Scraps:

Should I leave out Reed's romance with Laurie Anderson, one of the most conscious artists, a self-conscious artist and reveling in it, of our time?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:51pm Scraps:

Or is that a Matalin-carville romance? ;-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:51pm Uncle Michael:

One can't be an unmannered artist and fall in love with a highly mannered artist? Maybe Reed's blank affect became schtick and maybe it didn't.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:51pm coelacanth∅:

the modern lovers' first album never reminded me of VU. it's much more traditionally structured; more based on early rocknroll.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:54pm Scraps:

I wouldn't say Reed falling out of unmannered art was falling into schtick. Unmannered and mannered art are both good, if do you them right.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:55pm Uncle Michael:

I agree.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:56pm Doug Schulkind:

Dj/rupture did a show on FMU for about five years. Here are his archives: wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:56pm Uncle Michael:

Audio: Jonathan Richman DJs Two-Hour Lou Reed Birthday Show

www.daysofthecrazy-wild.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:56pm coelacanth∅:

you college kids and your fancy terminology... by "mannered" do you mean disciplined?
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:57pm Gary:

Thank you, Doug! I've listened to some of those, along with a couple of his sets on the Peel show, and he's just ... he's amazing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:57pm Scraps:

I just see Reed as not so much unmannered as you do, Uncle Michael. Maybe we should let it rest there.
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 9:58pm Gary:

Ooh! Gotta listen to that, UM!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 9:58pm Scraps:

Cheers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 9:59pm Uncle Michael:

Nope, I mean mannerisms. David Lee Roth's high kicks are a mannerism. David Byrne's blank stare is a mannerism. Mannerisms are good. They're fine. Their presence is less remarkable than their absence.
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 9:59pm hyde:

cool show. thanx,
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 10:00pm Gary:

Thanks for hanging out, Hyde!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 2/8/17 10:00pm Uncle Michael:

Thanks for the music and conversation, everyone.
Avatar    Wed. 2/8/17 10:00pm hyde:

always a pleasure
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 10:00pm coelacanth∅:

Thank you UM.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 10:01pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Gary! have a great week!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 2/8/17 10:03pm Scraps:

Thank you, Gary! Thank you, Uncle Michael! Thank you, everybody!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 10:05pm Doug Schulkind:

Tune in tomorrow morning at 9am (eastern) for Amanda's show, Nazario Scenario. She will be presenting a tribute to Joe Raposo:the original music director of Sesame Street and celebrated composer of popular tunes for TV, films, Broadway and more. A three-hour extravaganza with all the bells and whistles!
Avatar Wed. 2/8/17 10:05pm Gary:

Night, Michael, Hyde, Coela, Scraps, Doug, and all!
  Fri. 3/10/17 3:10am daddio mooch:

that Ata Kak song seems to be a slowed down version.... nice
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