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Favoriting April 28, 2015: THE FALL: Part 2 of 2 Special w/ live recordings, Interview with MARC RILEY plus BRIX SMITH START

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(Pic of our FMA Director Cheyenne Hohman's hoodie) Second part of a two week special: today's entire three hours is dedicated to the exhuming of some stellar live tapes in Brian's collection from The Fall, mainly soundboard and FM broadcasts from mostly of the '78 to '96 era. As a bonus, three of the band's biggest instrumental anchors of that period, ex-guitarist Marc Riley (1978-83, and now a well-beloved BBC Radio6 DJ), post-Riley guitarist Brix Smith Start (1983-89) and ex-bassist Stephen Hanley (1979-98) speak to WFMU on life inside of and outside of the band; in fact Hanley has recently released a memoir called The Big Midweek. Last week's show featured Hanley and a live set from Spectre Folk performing Fall covers at WFMU, this week we have some chats with Marc Riley (guitarist 1979-83, now a BBC6 Radio DJ) and Brix Smith Start (former Mrs. Mark E. Smith and the band's guitarist from 1983-89 and 1995-6). Mark E. Smith's current lineup of The Fall releases an album, his 31st, on May 25th called Sub-Lingual Tablet.

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The Fall  Middle Mass   Favoriting Unknown venue, NYC, 6/11/81 
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The Fall  Deer Park   Favoriting Unknown venue, NYC, 6/11/81 
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The Fall  Container Drivers   Favoriting Unknown venue, NYC, 6/11/81 
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The Fall  Rowsche Rumble   Favoriting JB's, Dudley UK 9/1/79 
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The Fall  Lie Dream of a Casino Soul   Favoriting Austerbaejarbio, Reykjavik, Iceland 9/12/81 
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The Fall  Cash N Carry   Favoriting San Francisco 1981 
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Marc Riley  WFMU Interview   Favoriting The Fall's guitarist 1979-82, currently an on-air personality at BBC6: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00c72y1 
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The Fall  No Xmas For John Quays   Favoriting Keystone, Berkeley 7/10/81 
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The Fall  Totally Wired (A Capella)   Favoriting Unknown, 1981 
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The Fall  Eat Y'self Fitter   Favoriting Austerbaejarbio, Reykjavik, Iceland 5/6/83 
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The Fall  Lay of the Land   Favoriting VPRO / De Doelen, Rotterdam 9/22/84 
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The Fall  L.A.   Favoriting Schlachthof, Bremen, 9/11/85 
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Brix Smith Start  WFMU Interview   Favoriting Brix is the former Mrs. Mark Smith, and guitarist in The Fall from 1983-89, then once again briefly 1995-96. Currently a TV presenter, boutique co-owner, and now fronts Brix & the Extricated 
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The Fall  Guest Informant   Favoriting The Channel, Boston 5/12/88 
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The Fall  Bombast / Cruiser's Creek   Favoriting The Tube, Channel 4 UK 11/8/85 
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The Fall  Hip Priest (into Big New Prinz)   Favoriting Kings Theater, Ediburgh 8/17/88 
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The Fall  I Am Damo Suzuki   Favoriting Markthalle, Hamburg 2/13/87 
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Listener comments!

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Greg from Bloomfield:

IT IS TIME
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Cheri Pi:

YEP
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BadGuyZero:

Hello-uh!
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d¢ pät:

ahem, woo.
  3:03pm
orphans on tap water:

Thank you, Brian!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:05pm
Caryn:

Ahh, part 2 begins...
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Cecile:

yes, GAWD
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Cheyenne:

My hoodie is famous!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:06pm
Ikє:

Re: earlier question about Lamin's fill-in: I only caught it via archive, @SeanG, but it was great!

Also, I want that "I Used To Be in The Fall" hoodie.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:07pm
Stepchild:

Part the second!!
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Greg from Bloomfield:

Everytime I visit my friends in Deer Park, LI I sing this and nobody knows why...
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Lopez:

Oy! Oy! Oy! Ready for this installment!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:11pm
northguineahills:

@Ike: It was was awesome hearing Lamin again. Hopefully he'll be back more often.
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Sem Chumbo:

OK, Brian!
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Lopez:

That flyer is great too. I'm curious about whatever happened to the Gay Animals (but not curious enough to google it on my work computer!)
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glenn:

today in comics. www.casualoptimist.com...
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Cecile:

when was Lamin around?!??!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:14pm
Caryn:

I always hear "Have you been to the English deer park?" as "Have you been to the English dirt farm?"
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Chris from DC:

These live sets are gold.
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Ike:

@Cecile, filling in for Rob W. on Sat. Great show.
  3:16pm
capt.beefheart imitator w/ zits:

NYC 81 sounds amazing! need this! Thank you Brian!
  3:16pm
Stefan:

Those live trax were from City Gardens, June 12, I think. 2nd time The Fall came to the States.
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Faye:

im so happy this show is happening
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Lopez:

Outstanding sounds from '79!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:21pm
Greg from Bloomfield:

dodo dodo dananana
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Brian Turner:

Hmmm Stefan I do have the City Gardens 81 show but I am not sure it's those we heard? I'm thinking Hurrah's or something? Where was the Totally Wired b/w vid shot? Maybe there...
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Cecile:

Ike, I gotta catch that.
I actually emailed him urging him to apply for a show because he hadn't in a while.
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Cheyenne:

Anyone know what the word "Rowsche" is referencing here? Or just another nugget from the MES lexicon? Love this one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:23pm
Caryn:

@glenn: nice link. I do wonder how much Halle Berry managed to reduce Storm's significance in the films with her infamous "my career is so on the skids that I'm reduced to working in a frigging comic book movie" rant during filming?
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Caryn:

@Cheyenne: "Rowche Rumble" refered back to Smith's shipping clerk days, when he did business with the Rowche Chemical Company. One day, due to a clerical error, Smith found himself with piles of barbiturates that he attempted to hide in stores across Manchester and in the bottom drawer of his desk at work.
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glenn:

i thinks it's rouse, no?
  3:25pm
Chris Mohr:

Well, it just goes to show!
  3:25pm
capt.beefheart imitator w/ zits:

Rowsche was a pharma company in UK that made some kind of prescription speed
  3:25pm
Stefan:

Rowche = Roche
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ikє:

@Cecile, great, I hope he does. Although Lamin may travel too much for more than another 1-hour gig.
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glenn:

huh. i was way off on that one.
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Cheyenne:

Thanks, WFMU Hive Mind. Y'all never disappoint.
  3:27pm
Chris Mohr:

@Stefan's right. They're Swiss, actually. And not speed; Valium!
  3:27pm
Stefan:

chk-chk
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Ĩk∑:

@Caryn@3:25, HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA awesome
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Hugh:

At times, MES controlled the band with the iron fist like James Brown. Sometimes, he just said, "faster, faster."
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Cecile:

valium. valium.
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Caryn:

Yeah, Roche Chemical Company was changed to Rowsche supposedly for legal reasons.
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kwhitehead:

Ah, The Fall at their most lumbering... and I mean that in a good way.
  3:29pm
Chris Mohr:

"C 'n' C/Stop Mithering" sends shivers down my spine. "Grotesque" was the first Fall LP I bought!
  3:30pm
thefallthings:

@Cheyenne Rowche Chemical Company
See here: http://m.annotatedfall.doomby.com/pages/the-annotated-lyrics/rowche-rumble.html
and for more Fall lyrics explained/guessed: http://m.annotatedfall.doomby.com/
  3:31pm
thefallthings:

Roche of course
  3:33pm
Tom L.:

WFMU has been playing lots of The Fall lately. At least it seems that way. I was worried. I logged onto the interweb to make sure that he was OK. I hate to say it, but as we age our heroes age, and...well you know.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Fall seven times. Get up eight.
  3:35pm
dickscumrok:

C n C S-Mithering is the shiznite!
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glenn:

r.i.p. tracy partridge.
  3:37pm
Chris Mohr:

@Tom L. Well, that day is coming, but is not yet.
  3:42pm
Tom L.:

Except for me. I'm a musician. Artists live forever. As Mark E. Smith will live forever. Regardless.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:43pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- exactly what Iggy said about The Stooges: their tastes were sophisticated (Coltrane, Hendrix) - but their skills were primitive.
  3:44pm
Chris Mohr:

"Ramshackle" - yes!
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Cecile:

FBI was the booking agency and IRS was the label, I think.
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Lopez:

Great interview. Mr. Riley comes across as a really nice guy!
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glenn:

i still have my jumper clown single. a great piece of music.
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d¢ pät:

Steve Garvey is in Philly last time I checked. Had a beer at his house once...well half a beer hanyway..
  4:04pm
slangking:

Chris Mohr, I'm guessing you are the same chap that did the all fall decline and fall show ?, I got of a plane from manchester in '89 (big fall fan at the time) and was amazed to hear your lengthy show on wprb
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d¢ pät:

Langford organized that Cash tribute album, right?
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Stanley:

Hit the North - a great Fall track
  4:12pm
Listener Robert:

Is that really a drop-off, or just a shift in venue?
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d¢ pät:

oh. <--That IS a picture of Courtney with Marc
  4:13pm
Chris Mohr:

@slangking, yep. Thanks for asking. :)
  4:13pm
Chris Mohr:

I once interviewed Craig Scanlon for WPRB. I should digitize that...
  4:14pm
JakeGould:

Great work. And “Hit the North” is great, Stanley. Also, L.A. www.youtube.com...
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Cecile:

yes!
  4:18pm
Chris Mohr:

Ah, 1981 - before Craig and Marc discovered tuners! #sogood
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Mike East:

I wanna be in the Fall.
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d¢ pät:

You gotta hand it to the guys in the Fall for playing those 2 notes for that long.
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Chris from DC:

Yes!
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Carmichael:

OK, here. Allow me to join in the fray.
  4:23pm
Ari:

Amazing show once again, cheers from Iceland.
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d¢ pät:

this is great.
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Greg from Bloomfield:

That made my day.
  4:27pm
slangking:

Where's the acapella from anybody ?
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Gaylord Fields:

To think that last week I was lamenting having to listen to this second installment of Brian's incomparable Fall special on earbuds at work rather than blasting it at home, as I did last week. As if technological limitations can contain the power of MES & Co.!
  4:32pm
JakeGould:

@Gaylord: The right pair of earbuds can truly disconnect one from reality, so hey… It works.
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d¢ pät:

YEAH, my fave Fall tune.
  4:33pm
Chris Mohr:

I met a hero of mine...
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Cecile:

this is keeping me going in every sense of the word.
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d¢ pät:

I'm kind of surprised at how tight they are in these recordings. I wonder if MES rehearsed the crap out of them.
  4:39pm
Chris Mohr:

Falsetto crack on the vocals. Yes!!
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Cecile:

MY SON
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Guido from Cologne:

What's a Computer?
Brian Turner show!
Best Fall line-up for sure.
  4:42pm
Chris Mohr:

"What's this, Dad?" "It's 'Lay of the Land,' my son," I said. "Oh, no, is that the Fall again?"
(too real description of actual conversations at my house... should I say eldritch house... my new house)
  4:47pm
JakeGould:

@ChrisMohr: “Dad’s old hipster music again… Ugh!”
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Cecile:

will you play Disney's Dream Deferred-uh.?
  4:51pm
JakeGould:

Fucking great!
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Gaylord Fields:

@JakeGould: I was being a foolish man. I now realize that the Fall would sound like the Fall coming from a state-of-the-art B&O sound system, a tinny transistor radio, or two tin cans connected by a string.
  4:57pm
JakeGould:

@Gaylord: “…or two tin cans connected by a string.” Those are some fancy cans you got there… Must have been made “Beets by Del Monte.”
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glenn:

brix still talks like a 15 year old valley girl.
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glenn:

if a baseball is hit into the stands, and nobody is there to catch it, is it still a home run? news.nationalpost.com...
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Cecile:

She did neither. The Fall recorded some of their best and worst stuff with her in the band.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The Brit-SoCal thing is interesting: Cali. isn't necessarily interested in if the rest of 'America' has picked up on things yet...even tho' the West Coast is further from the UK ...
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Cecile:

the same is often true for NYC
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drr:

Slates was also the first Fall record I experienced (in 1985?). I didn't like the music at first but I loved the sleeve. Those impossible abbreviations! Still a favorite record sleeve, I like the record a lot now as well.
  5:11pm
#4:

D. Boon.....
Got a chill of past love....
miss that brother....
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- of course C'ec.
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Cecile:

yeah, #4.
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Cecile:

Boston is kind of interesting, too. Lots of places to play there, at least in the 80s, so that meant there were bands that never needed to get out to the Midwest on tour.
  5:13pm
JakeGould:

Cities that don't have some port aspect to them tend to be overlooked. Not good but just a reason some U.S. locales fall by the wayside despite cultural relevance.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Fall & Minutemen both = normal g-b-d-v + Genius.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:21pm
Gaylord Fields:

@Cecile: To illustrate your point, The Jam were kinda biggish in Boston but couldn't draw flies in the rest of the USA, New York included.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:26pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Interviews the Kewlest ! Thx all !
  5:27pm
JakeGould:

Jackhammer Drillbit
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Lopez:

Nicely done. Pretty amazing to think she's known for TV these days
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:27pm
Guido from Cologne:

thank you Brian.
never expected to get theese insights.
  5:28pm
JakeGould:

Martha Raye was mainly known as a denture wearer when I knew her.
  5:29pm
sara:

sounds of future tv features
  5:32pm
mnien:

Bombast!!
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acid casualty:

Bombast!! - Def a fave.
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singing serpent glen:

shall feel the wrath..
  5:35pm
mnien:

Note to Gaylord - I've been sitting at work with the earbuds in too. The Fall = productivity slowdown!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:36pm
Hugh:

I don't suppose you have Dktr Faustus in the queueueue? Fantastic show BT, thanks!
  5:36pm
thefallthings:

New album Sublingual Tablet's opening track Venice With The Girls is up on YouTube
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Lopez:

Great show today BT
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Lopez:

Great burger picture too
  5:45pm
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Anyone know what time are the doors to Monty Hall open tonight?
  5:45pm
#4:

great versions of all songs.....as in I ain't heard many before at all.....
  5:46pm
JakeGould:

Now I want a burger.
  5:48pm
mnien:

Nice fold-in Brian. Excellent series. Thanks much!
  5:50pm
JakeGould:

Tons of pics of Brix on a huge hamburger. http://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?phrase=huge%20burger%20Brix%20smith
  5:51pm
orphans on tap water:

Great set for a *still* criminally underrated band!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:52pm
Stepchild:

Thanks for an amazing pair of shows Brian
  5:53pm
slangking:

Ends nicely with the falls greatest ever live output ;), great show Brian, cheers..
  5:54pm
JakeGould:

Shows like this are what kids of the future will pass along on file sharing. Kudos!
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Cheyenne:

Favorite quote from a fellow Fall fan: "Your favorite record is the first one you heard, right?"
  5:56pm
thefallthings:

Thanks for a tremendous 6 hours of radio at WFMU & Brian Turner!!
  5:57pm
Marcel M:

Great showwwwww!! thanks Brian
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:57pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Show time at Monty Hall is 8:00 PM tonight. From past events, I've heard that doors open half an hour before the show, so that'd be 7:30. Also, great job on The Fall programs, Brian.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:57pm
Guido from Cologne:

thanks Brian
this was awesome!
  5:58pm
Stefan:

Many thanks for the 6 hours, Brian. Really enjoyed it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:59pm
Guido from Cologne:

Just watching Brix's fashion tips
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Marcel M:

See you all at Monty Hall!
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Chris M.:

as a Fall fan and fellow live show collector, i just wanted to say that i loved these shows so much! thanks Brian! you're always an inspiration.
  4:12pm
weloveallthat:

A treat. Wonderful (and frightening) selection. Hats off to Mr. Turner!! This is a COOL group, indeed.
  11:50pm
Granny:

look back bores
  11:50pm
Granny:

look back bores
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