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Options December 11, 2014: Torture Talk - Taking Calls - Live in the Studio

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments Approx. start time
The Jacksons  Torture   Options Victory  Epic  1984  MP3  00:00 - 04:53  0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
Shepherds  Endless Horizons (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Loco Hills  Not Not Fun Records   2008  LP  04:53 - 10:57  0:04:53 (Pop‑up)
Live and Alone in the Studio
Discussing The Senate Intelligence Committee's Torture Report
Dispensing the Number
  At this point I'm terrified no one will call.
Torture Description
$80M Torture Teachers :>(
Fab Enters ... He Has to Leave.
A Call From Sybil ...
Fab Weighs In
  Fab gets right at the point. I envy that. I dance around the perimeter.
That's it ,,, No More Do You Still Love America Question
Fab Leaves
Sybil's Message
Keep Breathing
A Call from Dave in Brooklyn
Shepherds  Revenge (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Loco Hills  Not Not Fun Records   2008  LP  10:57 - 18:06  0:10:57 (Pop‑up)
Shepherds  We're In It For The Corn Demon (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Loco Hills  Not Not Fun Records   2008  LP  18:09 - 22:53  0:18:09 (Pop‑up)
A Call From Bruce
  Thanks, Bruce!
A Call From Mike
Shepherds  Loco Hills (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Loco Hills  Not Not Fun Records   2008  LP  22:53 - 33:00  0:22:53 (Pop‑up)
The Accu Weighs In
Frank Zappa  The Torture Never Stops (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Zoot Allures  Warner Bros  1977  LP  33:03 - 37:34  0:33:03 (Pop‑up)
Apex  Bangin' (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options   Marine Parade  1999  12"  33:34 - 42:22  0:33:34 (Pop‑up)
TNP Promo
Calling for Callers
Does It All Just Die Down?
Andy From Bloomfield
Apex  Digital Warning (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options   Marine Parade  1999  12"  42:25 - 45:08  0:42:25 (Pop‑up)
The Rolling Stones  Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Goat's Head Soup  Rolling Stones Records  1973  MP3  45:08 - 48:28  0:45:08 (Pop‑up)
Shepherds  Dale Bozzio (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options III  Frenetic   1997  2LP  48:30 - 52:32  0:48:30 (Pop‑up)
A Call from Otis
Mike Brown - Eric Garner - RIP
Elvis Presley  In The Ghetto (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Worldwide Award Hits, Parts 3 & 4  RCA  1978  2LP  52:32 - 55:20  0:52:32 (Pop‑up)
Shepherds  Endless Horizons (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Loco Hills  Not Not Fun Records   2008  LP  55:24 - 57:02  0:55:24 (Pop‑up)
The Beach Boys  Until I Die (Listen: Pop‑up)   Options Surf's Up  Warner Reprise  1971  MP3  57:03 - 59:38  0:57:03 (Pop‑up)
  Thanks for listening. The holidays are here and I'm getting so busy. I'm sure you are, too. So I'll keep it short. I hope you keep tuning in. Always remember ... (I want to say something meaningful about torture and all of that. but it's hard to access the feelings. It's awful. I'm against it. CP NYC 99F HH

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Listener comments!

Avatar 6:03pm V Priceless:

Hiya Clay!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm common:

i love that you get fabio to say i love you, clay hey vp!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Marcel M:

YO CLAY!!! Whats up everyone.
  6:03pm P-90:

Greetings, Clay!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm dale:

i think the jacksons stole some depeche mode sound effects, there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Marcel M:

@Common: Me too! So funny. Love that.
  6:04pm Shaunté:

this song makes me want to do keigal exercises
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Marcel M:

You can tell he really does love him <3
Avatar 6:04pm Sem Chumbo:

Hey, Clay. How's it going, anyway?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm common:

@marcel: and important. i do that too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Greg from Bloomfield:

Evening, Clay! Evening, gang!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm Carmichael:

God, what awful music ... Hiya Clay and pigeonaires!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm common:

i'm at a pool in 1984. hello yoos!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm SeanG:

Howdy everyone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm JohnEBGood:

Love you Clay . But this is Torture! Oh no not that. No gang boss, noooooo!
  6:07pm Shaunté:

oh hell maybe
  6:07pm Ian in Seattle:

I'm glad its a Fab free show. Not to be mean. It's just that he seems to dislike music with soul.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Bronwyn Bishop:

Good evening Sir Clay!
Avatar 6:07pm V Priceless:

hey common!
  6:08pm Po:

"Soul" has many, many faces, Grasshopper.
  6:08pm Shaunté:

does wfmu have a fax machine
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm common:

hey vp. clay, just digusted and knew it back then. obvious. sucks trying to think of bunnies then and now
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm dale:

two guys made 81 million. how the hell was the invoice presented to the cia? did they say 'one for me and two for you?'
  6:10pm Sybil:

OMG there's another Sybil!

I don't think I'm on the phone to Clay Pigeon now...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Carmichael:

Invoice? Seriously? They handed them a big bag of cash.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm common:

jesus dale... i think it will fade like all american horror shows. which makes me think of bunnies instead. nightmare
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm common:

and i meant disgusted. sorry.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm dale:

carmichaell - i like in independence day the line judd hirsch throws out when the pres asked what funds area 51 - 'you don't think they actually paid $700 for a hammer, do you?
  6:14pm P-90:

I can't WAIT until the names of those psychologist "contractors" are leaked (and they will be) and they're called to account for what they did, how they did it, and how much they BILLED for it.
I'm with Fabio: that administration are unambiguously war criminals, ESPECIALLY Cheney!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm Carmichael:

Cheney threw Dubya under the bus as fast as he could, didja notice?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm Marcel M:

Don't say yes!!!!!!!
  6:14pm Sybil:

I have nightmares about bunnies.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme horror story.
Avatar 6:15pm TDK60:

I don't even like the question "Do you love America?" Too loaded.
  6:15pm Shaunté:

this is retarded
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm Carmichael:

How about that bunny in the Python movie Holy Grail?
  6:15pm Kathy:

LOVE=america the dirt land people idea
RAIL AGAINST=america the corporation
  6:15pm P-90:

@Sybil: according to the book, there are 16 "Sybils", it's one of the others on the phone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm dale:

i have a mad bomber rabbit hat i bought 20 years ago and feel guilty over it. throwing it out won't bring peter cottontail back
  6:16pm Shaunté:

cybil shepards
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm common:

sorry about the rabbit thing. that administration needs some fessin' up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide!
Avatar 6:17pm northguineahills:

I actually dug that Jacksons tune, I somehow missed that the first time around, and I went to the to see MJ during the Thriller tour.
  6:18pm Sybil:

@P-90: this is kind of a joking comment by me, since Clay always makes a joke about me having many personalities when I pledge when he's on the air.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Mike East:

Hey guys - I've been swamped all day....what is the controversy that they're talking about?
Avatar 6:19pm TDK60:

Mike E. : CIA torture revelations in U.S. Congress this week.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm dale:

i like this caller. like clarence likes george bailey's face
  6:20pm Sybil:

Does "on the air" date me?

@ Mike East: OK, TDK60 just beat me to it. America, where are you now?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm SeanG:

the truth is we're fucked!
  6:21pm P-90:

@ Kathy: WELL said!
Avatar 6:22pm ironybread:

"If you don't have the guts to be more hateful, destructive and cruel than your opponent, then evil wins." - Chris Harding, "Learn Self Defense" (2005 animated short)
  6:22pm Sybil:

The problem is we're crazy!
The problem is we drink!
The problem is we're lazy!
The problem is we stink!
The problem is we're growing!
The problem is we've grown!
  6:23pm Shaunté:

mynah that dude was on the phone too long
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Mike East:

ah yes, torture-gate. revelations like this and the NSA surveillance stuff ...things I always kind of assumed our government was doing anyway....and that's sad. How can we stop it? the media?
  6:24pm Fredericks:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm common:

sigh indeed mike east. bunnies? fuck
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm Ken From Hyde Park:

While we're at it, there's about 269,000 tons of plastic trash floating in the oceans; an estimated 5.25 trillion individual pieces. Who's going to pick that up?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm Marcel M:

@Ken: I saw a documentary called... tapped? Bottled? something like that, that shows that plastic mess in the ocean... pretty scary.
  6:27pm Sybil:


We knew this, didn't we? Why no trials? Holder is useless. I kind of agree with the NYT writer (can't be bothered to look it up now) from ACLU who said that Obama should issue pardons because AT LEAST that would give evidence that something illegal was done. But it ain't happening, not now, not ever. So I have nightmares about bunnies.
Avatar 6:27pm TDK60:

We have a growing authoritarianism problem in the U.S.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm SeanG:

bunnies :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm common:

with you sybil
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm Marcel M:

Clay what is this in the background? Its coooooool.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm Marcel M:

Look at you Clay killin' it all by yrself!
Avatar 6:32pm V Priceless:

hmm..Clay..maybe change it to "Do you love Slade?"
  6:32pm JakeGould:

This retro 1960s junk is really going to far.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm Marcel M:

The best answer to the do you love America question so far on the show has been someone saying a country isn't something to feel love for.
  6:33pm Kathy:

thx @P-90!!
I do hate paperwerk!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm Carmichael:

  6:36pm P-90:

@Sybil: I don't think Clay caught the Sondheim quotation...
  6:36pm Sybil:

I still have an emotional reaction to Steppenwolf's "Monster", which I've alluded to today. But countries are indeed a poor place to place our faith in the long run: tribalism's got to expand to include much more in "us", or we are done for.

@P-90: nope, too bad.
Avatar 6:37pm V Priceless:

@Sybil - "Monster" - brilliant
  6:38pm Sybil:

Bye Clay! Hi Hearty! I love me some Thursday evenings!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm Carmichael:

The things that people will do to one another when they think no one is watching ... It's staggering sometimes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm dale:

i interpret 'do you love america' as 'do you have hope for our stupid country?'
  6:40pm Kevlicki:

Hi clay and all.
I don't have any love for any country, I really do appreciate this continent, it's friggin incredibly beautiful, and some of my favorite people live on it.
Nation states, can't get behind, guess that's the nature of an anarchist!
  6:40pm Sybil:

@Carmichael: ain't it the truth!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm Carmichael:

Sorry, dude. This is not "war". This is a terror campaign, just like the one we're fighting against.
Avatar 6:41pm TDK60:

I'm with Kevlicki. // The current caller seems to think torture has good results.
  6:41pm aaa:

this guys a clown
  6:42pm Kathy:

Oh yea, more world trade please..... help!!
I want to be in a republic.
Not a democracy where the mob rules.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm common:

yes, carmichael!
  6:43pm Tim:

How many new terrorists and suicide bombers did our torture aid in recruiting?
  6:43pm P-90:

"In war, it's necessary"? WHAT "war?" WHAT manufactured, phony "war"? And the whole point of the report was that NOTHING was EVER prevented by this. NOTHING. 9/11? Are you fucking kidding me?
  6:43pm Kathy:

the glass parking lot??
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm Mike East:

thanks for reading my comment on the air, Clay. Always a thrill to get on the radio in some form. you rock.
  6:43pm Ray:

I hate to say it these people are all idiots. Jesus!
  6:43pm JakeGould:

This clown on the phone advocating torture. Torture never works. It’s pure revenge. Don’t pretend that it’s anything other than that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm Carmichael:

Here comes the endorsement for Rand Paul.
  6:43pm Sybil:

Gah, actual statistical evidence proves you wrong and you cling to your uninformed opinions... There is no hope for humanity. America, where are you now?
  6:44pm Skirkie:

Except the torture wasn't effective.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm Carmichael:

HA HA HA .... Clay saw my comment.
  6:44pm Sybil:

Carmichael FTW!
  6:45pm P-90:

Way to go Carmichael!
  6:45pm Kevlicki:

@sybil my minor dyslexic brain thought you wrote WTF!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm Carmichael:

He he ... Clay baited him into it when he saw my comment. That's heads up radio, Clay!
  6:46pm Sybil:

Not frowning about Carmichael, just sad about the state of things.

Loved being online with y'all! And all my other personalities agree! ;)
  6:48pm Sybil 07:

Avatar 6:48pm TDK60:

Come on now, Obama says we need not dwell on the past, we need to move along. (cynic.) // Do folks know many are now including solitary confinement as torture?; there're tens of thousands in solitary in the U.S.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm Mike East:

good conversation today. dialogue is part of the solution, I think.
Avatar 6:50pm david_:

"less than ideal" is just a way to set the bar as low as possible. the worst despots in history could be defended as "less than ideal."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm dale:

breasteses - and divorced from nick now.
  6:51pm ScottC:

Otis is running a psy-op on you. This is a weird call...
  6:52pm Ray:

I just called and got an error msg. BS. Turn off The Stones and talk to me broder.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Marcel M:

This is some crazy sounding Elvis
  6:53pm Sybil:

what david_ said
Avatar 6:53pm david_:

thanks sybil.
Avatar 6:54pm david_:

tell us how it is in the ghetto, Elvis! ;)
  6:54pm Lewis Goldfarb:

  6:54pm Ray:

What you doin' Clay? You makin ppl wait a long time. Jezus. What you. Complainin about? You r going to your comfy parents house for Christmas in Iowa. How u complaining about torture.
  6:55pm JakeGould:

Ray, chill out… What do you have? Some forced feeding tube shoved up your arse?
  6:55pm Sybil 07:

TDK: O is not a cynic, his hands are tied by having to weigh the political consequences of going after the war criminals...
The Republicans in Congress already came out against even releasing the report and facing the truth. When the bad guys are all in one party, this kind of national self-examination is reduced to a partisan feud-- one of the reasons that NONE of the Founding Fathers of this country wanted two parties. OR a standing army, for that matter, because they knew that creeps like Rumsfeld and Cheney would not be able to resist using it for imperial ($) purposes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm YETI BOB:

Mac Davis had a TV show, my Dad loved it. People in the audience would suggest a topic and he'd write a song on the spot.
  6:57pm JakeGould:

North Dallas Forty! www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm common:

north dallas 40 so good to think of other things. but thank you clay!
  6:57pm Ian in Seattle:

I met Mac in 99. He co-wrote a song on Weezers last album. How about that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm SeanG:

you did it Clay, great show
  6:57pm P-90:

Mac Davis rocks!
FEEL BETTER Mrs. Pigeon!
Avatar 6:57pm V Priceless:

thanks Clay! Cheers!
Avatar 6:58pm TDK60:

I was being cynical about Obama.
  6:58pm Ray:

Sometimes I just get mad at these djs. Oh well. Goodbye.
  6:59pm Sybil:

SybilO& is not me. Not that I disagree with anything she said. Just sayin.
  6:59pm ?:

make me think of TLC waterfalls..
  7:00pm P-90:

@TDK: Gotcha. Dude's in an impossible place, we elect these guys on the basis of their beliefs, and then expect them to wave magic wands to change things according to those beliefs...
  7:08pm Sybil:

Clay, there's only one of me and I'm the bestest!I

I love your show forever, but we've got get this strighened out or else....

Let's call this "America" vs "Americaeality"
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