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Favoriting February 3, 2013

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Sun Ra  The Song of Drums   Favoriting Cosmo Earth Fantasy  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Brown Whornet  Danse Raja   Favoriting Brown Whornet  0:05:52 (Pop-up)
Oren Ambarchi & Robin Fox  Standing Mandala   Favoriting Connected  0:11:20 (Pop-up)
Jeff & Jane Hudson  Help Me   Favoriting Flesh  0:20:09 (Pop-up)
Tom Johnson  VII   Favoriting Organ and Silence  0:31:47 (Pop-up)
Wim Mertens  Often a Bird   Favoriting Jardin Clos  0:35:48 (Pop-up)
Kammerflimmer Kollektief  Nachtwache, 15. September   Favoriting Absencen  0:39:35 (Pop-up)
Eric Dolphy  Half Note Triplets   Favoriting Vintage Dolphy  0:50:55 (Pop-up)
Theo Bleckmann/Fumio Yasuda  Moon of Alabama   Favoriting Berlin  0:59:39 (Pop-up)
Karen Mantler  My Cat Arnold Is Dead   Favoriting Karen Mantler's Pet Project  1:03:37 (Pop-up)
Julie Tippetts & Martin Archer  Entry of the Scarabs   Favoriting Serpentine  1:09:29 (Pop-up)
Jon & Utsunomia  Hi Hi Hi   Favoriting Horen  1:13:43 (Pop-up)
Matmos  Stupid Fambaloo   Favoriting Quasi-Objects  1:21:33 (Pop-up)
King Crimson  Lament   Favoriting Starless and Bible Black  1:26:34 (Pop-up)
H. P. Lovecraft  That's How Much I Love You Baby (More or Less)   Favoriting H. P. Lovecraft  1:30:48 (Pop-up)
Jo Jo Gunne  Babylon   Favoriting Jo Jo Gunne  1:34:18 (Pop-up)
Jon Mueller / Robbie Lee / Jozef Van Wissem  This Is How We Sing   Favoriting V/A: New Music for Old Instruments  1:43:05 (Pop-up)
Ethernet  Correction   Favoriting Opus 2  1:48:45 (Pop-up)
Chilly Gonzales  White Keys   Favoriting Solo Piano II  1:56:51 (Pop-up)
John Cale  Helen of Troy   Favoriting Helen of Troy  2:02:53 (Pop-up)
Vinicius Cantuária  Maravilhar   Favoriting Tucumã  2:08:01 (Pop-up)
Takeyari Shunta  Moon Shine   Favoriting A Place Doesn't Exist  2:10:50 (Pop-up)
Julia Kent  Ailanthus   Favoriting Green and Grey  2:14:51 (Pop-up)
Simone White  Flowers in May   Favoriting Silver Silver  2:22:04 (Pop-up)
Anthony Braxton  Simple Like   Favoriting Actuel 6  2:27:06 (Pop-up)
Do Make Say Think  The Landlord Is Dead   Favoriting Goodbye Enemy Airship the Landlord Is Dead  2:36:10 (Pop-up)
Razen + Razen Featuring Andrew Liles  Rabies Gum   Favoriting Rope House Temper  2:44:49 (Pop-up)
Stian Westerhus  Like Passing Rain Through 9 Lives   Favoriting The Matriarch and the Wrong Kind of Flowers  2:49:13 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!

Avatar 9:01pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, boys and girls.
Avatar 9:02pm Dave E:

Hi there Dave
Avatar 9:03pm Dave Mandl:

Hey Dave. I hope we have ten Daves again this week.
Avatar 9:04pm Dave E:

I'm heading to bed but will keep Dave M on in the background
Avatar 9:04pm Dave E:

Dave is a very common name . . . my goodness there are 5 or 6 where I work.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04pm G:

I have an Uncle Dave, close as I get.
Avatar 9:05pm Dave Mandl:

I'll try not to play anything too jarring.
Avatar 9:05pm Dave Mandl:

(I mean, so you can go to sleep, Dave)
Avatar 9:05pm Dave E:

What a coincidence, I am an Uncle Dave
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05pm G:

Nice photo essay, I left some comments about the Bay Ridge Branch railway trench you included...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Dave's not here, man!
Avatar 9:07pm Dave Mandl:

@G: Ah, thanks.
Avatar 9:08pm Dave E:

Avatar 9:10pm Dave E:

This Brown Whornet is kinda neat - what do you know about him/them?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12pm G:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15pm Andrew Waterloo:

Avatar 9:16pm Dave Mandl:

Bienvenue, Andrew.
  9:31pm Marmalade Kitty:

Hi Dave & listeners! great set! I'm watching the Superbowl. BBC coverage has no ads!
Avatar 9:33pm glenn:

i thought the brooklyn photos were great as well.
Avatar 9:33pm Dave Mandl:

Hey Kitty. But I thought the ads were part of the whole experience?
Avatar 9:33pm Dave Mandl:

@glenn: Aw, thanks. I appreciate that.
Avatar 9:35pm Dave Mandl:

Here's a Brooklyn photo I took just this morning. You can be among the first to see it: dmandl.tumblr.com...
  9:36pm Marmalade Kitty:

49rs making a come back! It's gonna be some finish :) 28-20
Avatar 9:36pm glenn:

for some reason, i love the word canarsie. i don't know why, but i do..
  9:37pm Marmalade Kitty:

When CBS go to ads BBC goes to pundits in studio
Avatar 9:37pm Dave Mandl:

@Kitty: It's been so long since I followed football that I'd never heard of the Ravens.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37pm G:

Yes, could actually avoid Stupor Bowl blowout status for once... Was 28-6, now 28-20. Someone woke up the 49ers.
Avatar 9:38pm Dave Mandl:

@Glenn: Same here about Canarsie. My mother always used to mention it when I was a kid, and it took on this fantastic aura.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41pm G:

@Dave: Years ago there were the Baltimore Colts, and as B. declined as a city in winter of 84 they packed up a convoy of trucks and moved to become the Indianapolis Colts. Baltimore was dissed and pissed. Ravens were kind of a makegood in 96 when Art Modell moved the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore and they were renamed with a Poe reference.
Avatar 9:42pm glenn:

there's a donald e. westlake book, i forget the title, in which canarsie plays a large part.
Avatar 9:43pm glenn:

yeah, and baltimore temporarily had a canadian football league franchise and won the grey cup, as weird as that sounds.
Avatar 9:44pm Dave Mandl:

@G: Thanks. So they were created in '96? And I only just found out this week? So much for football.
Avatar 9:44pm Dave Mandl:

@glenn: I'll look for that book, thanks.
  9:50pm Marmalade Kitty:

That must be very disturbing for the fan base of the clubs who shed their id
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50pm G:

Exactly, Dave. If I had no relatives near Balt, *I* wouldn't know. They built the Ravens a nice new stadium and everything, probably with a fair amount of *public* money, as these things usually go, because after all so many local-election voters are football fans.
Avatar 9:53pm glenn:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54pm G:

28-23, start of 4th quarter, it's actually a competitive game again. My sense was that SF wasn't as bad a team as they seemed to be playing, I kinda thought they were maybe favored to win???
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:55pm Ike:

Hello all! Nice Gravesend photo, Dave.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58pm G:

31-23, Balt is trying to slow that SF momentum...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:59pm Andrew Waterloo:

Now that I know who's playing in the Superbowl...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01pm Ike:

Years ago, weren't all of the Stupor Bowls boring blowouts? Is it stupid of me to say that I find the recent trend of exciting SB games to be just sliiiiiiightly suspicious? Is there a way to rig the games to even it up a bit? Of course, I'm biased because I think concussion-ball is dumb and borderline psychotic.
Avatar 10:02pm Dave Mandl:

@Glenn: Thanks for the book info.
Avatar 10:02pm Dave Mandl:

Hey Ike. Thanks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04pm Cubicle Carl:

@Ike Exactly. That's why we're listening to World of Echo on Superbowl night.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06pm G:

Yes, Ike,if interested check the mostly big blowouts 1984-97 vs. more recent years:

Avatar 10:07pm glenn:

now, if it was a world series night, that's a different story.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07pm G:

are you waiting for toronto to get back in it, glenn? :P
Avatar 10:07pm tomB:

Hey I thought I was the only one with the My Cat Is Dead CD. and wasn't that the voice of Eric Mingus?
Avatar 10:11pm Dave Mandl:

@tomB: Yes, Eric Mingus is on that CD. Nice call.
Avatar 10:12pm glenn:

there gonna be pretty good this year, if the creeks don't rise and the good lord's willin'
Avatar 10:12pm glenn:

sorry. they're.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12pm G:

could be, but dont go overboard and hold your breath...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15pm Andrew Waterloo:

The Superbowl is proof that there is no god.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:17pm G:

@glenn: Vegas has Jays at 15-2 to take the Series, best odds of any team right at the moment.
Avatar 10:17pm glenn:

believe me, as a maple leafs fan, i know not to go overboard.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18pm Andrew Waterloo:

as a leaf fan you should know that you shouldn't even be out on deck
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19pm Andrew Waterloo:

You may, however, look at the port hole once in awhile
Avatar 10:19pm glenn:

that's true, and funny.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20pm G:

Balt 31 SF 29 barely over 5 minutes, an actual game.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22pm G:

34-29, barely 4 mins left, SF really needs to score now if they want the game, duh
  Swag For Life Member 10:22pm 12539:

Dave M, are you going to try some telepathy with Matmos?
Avatar 10:23pm Dave Mandl:

@12539: Anything's possible. I'll give it a shot if they want me to.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23pm George of Troy:

Evening, Dave. Excited to hear that Matmos will be on the show.
Avatar 10:24pm Dave Mandl:

Hey George. Yeah, me too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29pm G:

Great Crim. choice from a great album

SF is 2nd and goal to go, 2 minutes left
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:31pm G:

@Ike 10:01 nfl.com site just said each of the last four super bowls has had a game-winning scoring drive in the 4th quarter. amazing coincidence...
Avatar 10:35pm Droll:

[short break from lurking in kitchen]
iTunes tells me its been 2 years 3 months since I last listened to that KC album. Thanks for the reminder -- terrible oversight on my part. Red also just got scheduled.
[back to kitchen lurking]
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:36pm G:

Baltimore held them. SF had first and goal at about 6, and then lost the ball on downs without scoring. close but no cigar, guys
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Harbaugh 1, Harbaugh 0
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46pm G:

34-31, final.

Baltimore took a deliberate 2-point safety to kill the clock down to 4 seconds and give SF no chance to score again
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51pm G:

Want noise? Here's a humungo solar radiation burst frying the living crap out of some shortwave transmission today. It's from a large sunspot that is turning toward the earth this week --

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54pm Ken From Hyde Park:

So, is WFMU the official Free Form Radio Station of Super Bowl XLVIII?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55pm G:

@Ken: not any more :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02pm G:

ether/or net
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02pm George of Troy:

Coincidentally, I discovered today that Jozef Van Wissem (who played on a previous track) also played on an M.B. record from a few years ago called Das Platinzeitalter that I like quite a bit.
  Swag For Life Member 11:06pm 12539:

Dave M, a playlist search shows you've actually played from a few other Cale albums. Does this count towards the 2% rock n roll?
Avatar 11:08pm Dave Mandl:

Have I? Damn the internet. I can't remember playing anything but Paris 1919, but the playlist search doesn't lie.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:10pm G:

Quite the sotaque carioca (rio de janeiro accent) on display here
  Swag For Life Member 11:11pm 12539:

Vintage Violence, Eat/Kiss, HoboSapiens...(nice Vinicius track here).
Avatar 11:13pm Dave Mandl:

@12539: Thanks. Glad I've actually played all those Cale records, but seriously I always want to play Paris 1919.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17pm G:

looped cello
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:25pm braveness23:

This Simone White is pretty. I've never listened to WFMU in the evening, just during M-F 8-5. Well done! I'll be listening in the evenings more often.
Avatar 11:26pm Droll:

Ethernet is a pedestrian name depending on where you are on in the technology curve. Back in my day a band could get by with just "Wire".

Collector Alert: Sony is retiring MiniDisc in March!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27pm braveness23:

I'm going to name my band The OSI Model
Avatar 11:29pm Dave Mandl:

@braveness23: Great. Welcome to the evening.
Avatar 11:30pm Dave Mandl:

@Droll: I know. But it's the name of a networking protocol. An odd choice, but maybe that's a good thing.
Avatar 11:30pm Dave Mandl:

Naturally I've got a bunch of things on MiniDisc. I actually liked that technology. I used to record my shows on MD.
Avatar 11:37pm Droll:

HotChip also has a dubious band name. It's a fab lot term and a conference name. Always made me squirm.

I hated cassette and switched to MD as soon as it became available in 92-93. I always admired the clever pricing that blanks cost as much as recorded MDs. Last summer I ripped all my MDs to WAVs, rediscovering lots of lost gems, then took the MD player down the the electronics recycler.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40pm braveness23:

Heh, I dabbled in alternate media. Wish I could borrow a DAT player for a weekend to get some treasures off of it.
Avatar 11:42pm Pete from Boston (and NJ):

On last week's Seven Second Delay, after the show's premise was exhausted 35 minutes in, it changed to an "oldest regularly used electronic technology you own" show. One guy called and said he had a working DCC (digital compact cassette) player! Remember those? MiniDisc vs. DCC was supposed to be the next VHS vs. Beta, except consumers ignored both. 33 minutes, I believe, was the caller's estimation of the time it took for them to become obsolete.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm braveness23:

Today I choose whatever medium is most likely to be playable when I'm 70. If you can't listen to MP3's or look at PDF's in 2050 then it probably means the world has blown up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:45pm Andrew Waterloo:

Economist had a short comment in their last issue which argued that the only technologies that truly die are digital. Basically, we still have vinyl, we still have cassette, but we don't have DAT, or MiniDisc etc.
Avatar 11:45pm Pete from Boston (and NJ):

braveness23, you mean folk tradition, in other words -- if you can perform it and pass it on, it's pretty much the only guarantee it'll still be around.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46pm braveness23:

But we do have some file formats that seem to be enduring pretty well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49pm Andrew Waterloo:

@B23, true, but how many have survived because incremental updates that couldn't have happened in the strictly hardware world.
Avatar 11:49pm Droll:

AW, Not true: Lots of analog formats are gone -- try and find an 8-track player.

Digital stuff is now advanced enough that machine simulators are fast enough to run old programs in a virtual machine. We can run Atari and Colecovision games today in our browsers. And we'll eventually run browsers emulating 8-bit games in neural mind-link devices.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52pm Ike:

I often ponder: Will that neural mind-link device of the future allow me to upload my consciousness elsewhere? Should we want to do that?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52pm Andrew Waterloo:

@Droll, the point is the hardware is gone. The technology changed from a machine that reads a program from a card, to software that reads a file.
  Swag For Life Member 11:54pm 12539:

Viva la radio!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56pm braveness23:

In yours and my lifetimes (and our childrens) I'll bet we never own a digital device that doesn't know what an MP3, PDF and JPG are. Just sayin'. We are rapidly hitting the point where compression isn't necessary but these lossy formats are still pretty damned acceptable. Rarely do I need ot look at a picture and be assured that the 45th thousand pixel from the left 89 million rows down is the precise color it was in real life.
  Swag For Life Member 11:57pm 12539:

..and all its digital extensions.

Nice show, Dave.
Avatar 11:59pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks, everyone. Have a great week.
Avatar 12:00am Droll:

I already have .ppt and .doc files I can't read.

See y'inz next week (or 3 minutes)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00am G:

braveness: as you say, mp3 is lossy, and i bet there will be a move to a non-lossy audio format as storage cost keeps coming down, with mp3s being able to be played on equipment that plays the new non-lossy format as it takes over.

i see many audiophile and into-music types who view mp3 as temporary. remember when CDs were going to last "virtually forever"?
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