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Options April 26, 2012: live music from DISAPPEARS!
Chicago 4-piece Disappears play trance-inducing rock music that draws on a range of influences from kraut to Suicide to primordial punk. Founded in 2008 by vocalist/guitarist Brian Case (90 Day Men, The Ponys), they've just released their third LP in as many years for the hometown Kranky label. Pre Language features new drummer Steve Shelley (Sonic Youth, Crucif**s), who joins original members Jonathan Van Herik and Damon Carruesco for this live session. Disappears are in the midst of a tour--> tourdates here.

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Flipper  Talk's Cheap   Options Gone Fishin'  Subterranean      0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
Don Cherry & Latif Khan  Air Mail   Options Music / Sangam  Heavenly Sweetness   Original LP release 1982 (Europa Records JP2009).    0:01:51 (Pop‑up)
Ikue Mori/Robert Quine/Marc Ribot  Cheyenne   Options Painted Desert  Disk Union      0:09:24 (Pop‑up)
Lee Ranaldo  Waiting on a Dream   Options Between the Times and the Tides  Matador  feat Steve Shelley on drums  *   0:14:46 (Pop‑up)
Rhyton  Shank Raids   Options Rhyton  Thrill Jockey    *   0:20:21 (Pop‑up)
Derdiyoklar Ikilisi  Yadoy   Options Disko Folk  Guerssen    *   0:28:30 (Pop‑up)
THEESatisfaction  Existinct   Options awE naturalE  Sub Pop    *   0:33:08 (Pop‑up)
Traxman  I Must Deadly Killer   Options Da Mind Of Traxman  Planet Mu    *   0:35:07 (Pop‑up)
Ela Orleans  Living World   Options         0:38:01 (Pop‑up)
François Tusques  Abstract Procession   Options The B-Music of Jean Rollin 1968-1979  Finders Keepers    *   0:41:36 (Pop‑up)
Julia Holter  Fur Felix   Options Ekstasis  RVNG    *   0:42:39 (Pop‑up)
faust            0:47:59 (Pop‑up)
Pyramid Vritra  Enlightenment   Options The Story Of Marsha Lotus  Strollon Records      0:56:56 (Pop‑up)
Manzanita y Su Conjunto  Asi, Asi, Asi   Options         1:02:00 (Pop‑up)
Mukesh  Bol Radha Bol   Options Samgan OST        1:04:25 (Pop‑up)
Santiago Posada  El Mango (remix)   Options Jende Ri Palenge / People of Palenque  Soul Jazz    *   1:09:15 (Pop‑up)

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Disappears  Replicate   Options Live on WFMU        1:18:54 (Pop‑up)
Disappears  Joa   Options Live on WFMU        1:22:42 (Pop‑up)
Disappears  Love Drug   Options Live on WFMU        1:27:37 (Pop‑up)
Disappears  Radiation   Options Live on WFMU        1:33:24 (Pop‑up)
Disappears  Talk's Cheap Interview   Options         1:37:10 (Pop‑up)
Townes Van Zandt  Snake Song   Options Flyin' Shoes        1:45:08 (Pop‑up)
Lee Hazlewood  The Nights   Options Lee Hazlewoodism: Its Cause And Cure  Water      1:47:32 (Pop‑up)
Gene Clark  With Tomorrow   Options White Light  Sundazed    *   1:50:40 (Pop‑up)
Hey Mother Death            1:53:41 (Pop‑up)
Lotus Plaza  Out Of Touch   Options Spooky Action at a Distance  Kranky  on tour w/ Disappears  *   2:04:29 (Pop‑up)
Vom  Too Animalistic   Options Live at Surf City  Reru      2:08:33 (Pop‑up)
Spiritualized  Hey Jane   Options Sweet Heart, Sweet Light  Fat Possum    *   2:10:19 (Pop‑up)
Sean Nicholas Savage  Peace Man   Options Won Ton Jazz  Arbutus Records      2:19:15 (Pop‑up)
The Psychopaths  Till the Stroke of Dawn   Options 7"  Mighty Mouth Music      2:22:42 (Pop‑up)
Terry Malts  No Sir, I'm Not a Christian   Options Killing Time  Slumberland    *   2:26:58 (Pop‑up)
The Bevis Frond  Stupid Circle   Options The Leaving of London  Woronzow      2:27:17 (Pop‑up)
The Paperhead  Pictures of Her Demise   Options 7"  Trouble In Mind    *   2:31:46 (Pop‑up)
Hurrah!  Don't Need Food   Options The Sound of Philadelphia  Poppy Disc      2:34:31 (Pop‑up)
Chin Chin  GG and the Boys   Options The Flashing The Fancing  Definitive Jux      2:36:56 (Pop‑up)
White Fence  Take Away Life's Endless Take   Options Family Perfume Vol. 1  Woodsist    *   2:40:01 (Pop‑up)
Here Comes a Big Black Cloud!!  Psychic Violence   Options    
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The Austerity Program  Song 6   Options NYC Sucks, Volume 2  MetalSucks  Free Music Archive    2:51:57 (Pop‑up)

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Listener comments!

  9:05am northguineahills:

Wow, haven't seen this Don Cherry record. one of my favorites is the one he did w/ Jon Appleton.
  9:09am Nathan:

Tickle my ear canals today Jason.
  9:12am Dead Corporate Eyes:

when did these three get together!?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15am jason:

that'd be 1995, DCE. Thanks to Rich Hazelton of WFMU's Inflatable Squirrel Carcass for the tip on the Painted Desert
  9:16am Wendy del Formaggio:

Such a nice start to the show today, Jason.
  9:16am Nathan:

Dude sounds like Thurston Moore. Not a bad thing. Not complainin'. Just sayin'.
  9:17am Nathan:

Oh wait. It is. Doh! *slaps forehead*
  9:19am Wendy del Formaggio:

Nathan, I don't think so. Lee has a higher pitched voice than T Moore. T Moore is also more growly and grumbly. Lee's voice tends toward more clarity, in my opinion. It almost rings like a bell.
  9:20am Cheri Pi:

Great show, Good morning!
  9:21am Nathan:

Yeah Thanks Wendy, I'm slowly un-ravelling my ignorance here...
  9:21am BSI:

whoa, missed that Don Cherry thing. I try to be a completist (not easy with that cat) but haven't heard of that one...
  9:22am Wendy del Formaggio:

Nathan, no problem. I'm no expert. Just a person w a lot of opinions. :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am jason:

hey Wendy! hey NGH, DCE, BSI, Cheri Pi, Nathan and all the listeners, hope this Rhyton's hitting the spot for you as it is for me. A.M. (morning) radio here in Jersey City, a little foggy, got live music from Disappears coming up!
  9:24am Nathan:

Yeah. I always gave Sonic Youth a pass in the frame of mind that I'd get to them later.
  9:24am Nathan:

Yeah this Rhyton IS hitting the spot. I'm going to have to go downstairs to the Thrill Jockey UK office and demand a copy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27am jason:

Nathan, what are you doing upstairs from Thrill Jockey? get down there!
  9:27am BSI:

The spot, it is hit.
  9:27am Cheri Pi:

Oh Snap! Disappears is today=I'd better shake off this fog.
  9:28am Cheri Pi:

@Nathan-I'll take one too as long as you're going downstairs.
  9:31am Caryn:

Maybe this should be one of those "get some for the whole class while you're at it, Nathan" things... :)
  9:31am Dead Corporate Eyes:

magnificent beards
  9:32am Dead Corporate Eyes:

didn't even notice the triple-necked guitar thingy, the beards were so distracting
  9:32am Cecile:

Hola! Lurking and working today.
  9:33am northguineahills:

That Ikue Mori rec was one of my first Tzadik recs.
  9:33am Nathan:

I know... I already begged a copy of the Dustin Wong album off Anthea there... they don't sell directly from the office though which is weird. Normally she'll toss me a promo download link if I'm really nice. But she's pretty wise to my manoeuvrings if I start bringing her coffees.
  9:35am Wendy del Formaggio:

Nathan, I'm sitting upstairs from about 1,000,000 lbs of cheddar. Maybe we can make a trade. :-)
  9:37am Cheri Pi:

Cecile! me too. Lurking & wurking.
  9:37am Parq:

"Upstairs from One Million Pounds of Cheddar" - Wen, I think we've found a title for your autobiography.
  9:38am Cheri Pi:

Some of us are only upstairs at that bastard Eric's.
  9:39am Caryn:

I'm upstairs from a sewing machine shop.
  9:40am Caryn:

Also, I now suspect I know the reason why Wendy's comments board handle is what it is.
  9:41am northguineahills:

I'm upstairs from an Ecuadorian restaurant.
  9:41am christophe mozaure:

Hello Jason, I have to go now.
I will ear the backup this evening.
We will speak about WFMU and you tomorrow 2:30 PM (8:30 AM for you) on this french radio:
Thanks !!!
  9:41am Nathan:

@Caryn yeah me too...
  9:42am Cheri Pi:

Hey-Pierced Arrows are playing tonight in Cincinnati! I'm getting stoked.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am jason:

awesome, thanks for stopping by Mozaure and have fun with Brian Turner!
  9:44am Cheri Pi:

Take care of my Brian! Make sure he eats salad.
  9:45am still b/p:

Ground floor, making it easier for drop-ins like the woman on Monday who claimed to have a weapon and demanded money from my boss. Denied here, she went next door, where I saw her exiting a moment later cradling their cash register.
  9:45am Dead Corporate Eyes:

they're here Sunday, Cheri Pi.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:46am jason:

here at WFMU, we're upstairs from an Italian deli. In a couple hours the whole building will smell like burnt grease. Then my mouth starts to water
  9:47am Cheri Pi:

Congrats DCE-don't miss 'em!
  9:48am Nathan:

It was fun! Can't wait for Disappears. Missed them in London last week.. Whaa!
  9:48am Wendy del Formaggio:

Jason, burnt grease? But the Flamingo closed! :-D
  9:48am Caryn:

@jason: yeah, Meghan was saying they need to stop torturing the DJs with the smell or give you free food.
  9:48am Dead Corporate Eyes:

I'll be pretty cooked by Sunday night, though.
  9:52am northguineahills:

I have the audio for a heron cam from Ithaca, NY, and I hear the squawking of canadian geese, so I thought you were all talking about the smell of burnt geese.
  9:53am Nathan:

You Derdi Yoklar!
  10:01am Nathan:

Where'd everyone go?
  10:02am annie:

yep, here i am ..good morning all!
  10:04am northguineahills:

I'm "busy" reading Thurston Moore/Bryron Coley No Wave book my gf got me, waiting to hear back from a recruiter. Still checking in every few minutes.
  10:04am Wendy del Formaggio:

Hi Annie!
  10:05am Wendy del Formaggio:

northguineahills, can you provide the url for the heron cam? I love the sound of Canadian geese!
  10:05am Wendy del Formaggio:

Honk if you love Canadian geese. haha
  10:06am BSI:

  10:10am northguineahills:

Cornell Great Blue Heron cam: http://www.livestream.com/cornellherons
  10:13am annie:

hi wendy!!!... hope you're well today!
  10:16am Wendy del Formaggio:

Annie, much better, thank you. Not for any reason other than I'm tired of having crappy days. :-D
  10:16am northguineahills:

I swear, Soul Jazz can do no wrong.
  10:18am annie:

i hear ya!!.. we have your back if need be, you know that
  10:23am Mike East:

Whoa - I dig this! Good morning everyone!
  10:23am dc pat:

you hear canada geese on the Heron Cam but also red wing blackbirds.
  10:23am Cheri Pi:

this is sooooooo great!
  10:24am Cheri Pi:

Aside-Disappears have nice hair.
  10:26am dc pat:

huh. I use to listen to 90 Day Men, didn't know there was a connection to Disappears....and I'm embarrassed to say I didn't know Shelly played with the Crucifucks....
  10:27am dc pat:

CHeri Pi: I noticed the niceness of hair as well...
  10:28am Cheri Pi:

I hope good hair makes a come-back.
  10:30am Dead Corporate Eyes:

my cup of coffee is very disappointing, but the music is good.
  10:30am dc pat:

all you gotta do is grow it long on top and grease it up.

I notice DIsappears are skipping/have skipped DC, fuckers.
  10:30am Carmichael:

Good morning Jason and musical Argonauts.
  10:31am northguineahills:

I like to think myself as a aural argotnaut.
  10:31am Cheri Pi:

I' eating leftover aloo choley,. drinkng green tea and listening to this great set; life is so good I could die happy right now.
  10:34am Wendy del Formaggio:

Disappears sound great. And nice hair, yes!
  10:34am dc pat:

Lee Ranaldo's coming to DC....but 9:30 though. I don't go there anymore..
  10:36am Carmichael:

I usually save my food comments for Bryce's show, but aloo gobi sounds spot on about now. Heading to the Nepalese place for lunch, I am.
  10:36am Cheri Pi:

Lee Ranaldo & Lee Scratch Perry & Bad Brains are coming to an out doorsy camping festival in Ohio-I think I have to go! Although it's normally "my thing"
  10:38am BSI:

  10:39am Cheri Pi:

Not my thing! I hate hippies and camping.
  10:40am dc pat:

sounds pretty good Cheri. I'd crawl out of the basement clubs for that.

I'm going to hit the Chinese buffet in about an hour 20 minutes...broccoli w/ heavenly sauce, hopefuly ma po tofu, various "salads"...
  10:41am paula pc:

@ cheri pi -- and beards, lots of beards at Nelsonville from what I hear
  10:41am northguineahills:

I'm making a zucchini, jalapeno, brown rice, and refried pinto bean burrito (wheat tortilla).
  10:42am dc pat:

Funny re hippies: I used this special shampoo yesterday that we got for the kids. It has rosemary in it but it reminded me of something else. I didn't realize until after I'd shampooed that it smelled like patchouli!! Ah I smelled like a hippie!!!
  10:43am Dead Corporate Eyes:

ngh, that sounds about perfect; dc pat, I recently uncovered some shampoo in the basement that I got in 1998. I used it, but it smelled funny, not hippie funny, but strange funny.
  10:45am Cheri Pi:

I'm so sick and tired of beards...#stuffwhitepeoplelike. But I'll brave it for Bad Brains.
  10:45am dc pat:

huh. does shampoo go bad? ngh: make me one of those?
  10:45am Mike East:

anybody got their kids at work today?
  10:46am dc pat:

I grow a beard about once a year.....no shaving at the beach, babe.
  10:46am Cheri Pi:

I know this sounds boring but I'm going to get a brown rice and blackbean bowl from cilantro for lunch and eat half of it. Will also purchase walnuts at the health food store.
  10:47am dc pat:

man, fmu commenters eat so well. not boring at all.
  10:48am Tom G:

My pal built that festival in Nelsonville. He's done a great job! Always brings in Michael Hurley and some great surprises. People around there have been sporting beards since the beginning of time!
  10:49am Carmichael:

Lee Hazlewood! I can only hope Nancy Sinatra will follow.
  10:49am paula pc:

spaghetti Lee
  10:49am dc pat:

hey any of you footballers see that Bayern/Madrid match yesterday? Crazy PKs. Schweinsteiger is so cool...
  10:50am Nathan:

@Cheri Pi That sounds a bit hippy. I just devoured a homemade Roast Aubergine, Roast Corgette, Hummous, Tabouli and Halloumi burrito / wrap thing actually 2 of them...
  10:50am northguineahills:

If you're ever in Brooklyn, I'll make you a burrito dc pat. One of the perks of unemployment is that my culinary prowess has increased logarithmically .
  10:51am northguineahills:

Yeah, I saw Bayern/Real yesterday. Insane game.
  10:52am Tom G:

I watched, DC P. BUT, I fell asleep around min 110 and woke up this morning not knowing what had happened.
  10:52am northguineahills:

However, I fiance is a veggie, so I'm still a novice w/ cooking meats.
  10:53am northguineahills:

* my = I (wth, ngh?!)
  10:53am paula pc:

@ Tom G -- that's true...I bet the Adena had beards!
  10:54am dc pat:

Ronaldo, Kaka, and Ramos all MISSED! It was beautiful.

ngh: same thing here, no meat in the house (I'm veggie too) so I don't know jack about cooking it.
  10:55am Dead Corporate Eyes:

I'm glad my name isn't "Kaka".
  10:55am Cheri Pi:

Me too! Veggie that is.
  10:55am Tom G:

Almost like it was scripted by an anti-Mourinho.
  10:55am Nathan:

I had a veggie g/f for a few years. Wasn't a big deal. I don't mind the diet. Actually I'm in the camp of meat rarely and only good stuff if I do have it. The good stuff tends to be expensive.
  10:59am northguineahills:

I was just rooting for anyone but Real. The PK misses/saves made it an actual enjoyable PK shootout.

When I first started dating my gf, 4.5 years ago, she wouldn't kiss me if I've eaten meat until I brushed my teeth. Now, she eats some seafood, and tolerates me bringing meat into the pad, but I rarely do so. (I'm a recovered veggie).
  11:00am dc pat:

oh no! "conspiracy of beards"

it's funny how everybody hates Real. Sort of like Chelsea...eyooo.
  11:01am dc pat:

Jason: just say you're an anarchist and don't recognize any authority and the cops just exist to protect the property of the rich. That should do it.
  11:02am Nathan:

@northguineahills - That's annoying, glad she's lightened up a bit. Most veggies here in the UK also include seafood in the diet..
  11:03am Caryn:

Man, my dinner seems so boring in comparison to everyone else. Just a plate of mashed potatoes. Should I start making up stuff?
  11:03am northguineahills:

(I can be a bad influence).
  11:04am northguineahills:

daggnabbit, I'm out of fresh Oaxacan queso!
  11:04am Tom G:

I feel like Barca is the new Real--I encounter more Barca antipathy these days than just about any other.

Anyhow, have to root for Bayern now, but not because I'm a fan!
  11:05am Nathan:

@northguineahills - Congratulations! I pride myself on being a bad influence. I've broken many a vegetarian amongst other things..
  11:07am Nathan:

@Caryn - Mashed potatoes... you could chop up some spring onions add those in make some potato cakes, pan fry add some smoked salmon and/or maybe a poached egg.. ? Instant fun. Unless it's budgetary Mash. In which case a tin of baked beans works well. Maybe some steamed broccoli.
  11:07am dc pat:

Man around these parts every kid I see has a Messi jersey on.
  11:08am northguineahills:

Neuer was spectacular in goal for Bayern. Never really paid attention to him before.
  11:09am Tom G:

yeah, I see 'em on the young ones, but young ones like winners. it's the oldies who hate em.

neuer=one of the best.
  11:10am dc pat:

ngh, TomG: you know it. Looking forward to the Euro this June. Strong German team.
  11:11am northguineahills:

Euro should be fun.

I just found some fresh cilantro. Getting hungry thinking about the burrito, might lunch it early.
  11:11am german:

the new spiritualized seems to be the FMU song of the week. how is the rest of the album or ep..
  11:12am dc pat:

yeah man, I think I'll slip out at 11:30...the buffet will be nice and fresh that way..
  11:13am moose:

who is the fmu swagmaster? there was a mix-up with mine
  11:13am Tom G:

Yeah, I think it's down to Germany, Spain or Holland. Probably give the advantage to the first 2. Should be fun!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:14am jason:

Moose, check out the link to contact Joe McGasko from the WFMU Home Page wfmu.org
  11:14am Carmichael:

Moose, that's Joe McGasko. Send him an e-mail and he'll fix you up right.
  11:16am Cheri Pi:

I hope my swag arrives in the next month so I can wear it in a foreign country.
  11:16am dc pat:

I like Spain but I'm rooting for Ireland and Germany. Ireland won't get out of the gate of course with Spain and Italy in their group but who knows.
  11:16am Tom G:

Hey DJ! Great show.

Don't kill me, Spiritualized live was one of the most snooze-inducing experiences of my life.
  11:16am dc pat:

gotta say I'm not in love with this Spiritualized tune.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17am jason:

thanks Tom G!g
  11:17am Tom G:

Poor Ireland. Haven't they suffered enough but now to get stuck in that group ... sheesh. Be rooting for them too.
  11:17am Dead Corporate Eyes:

Spiritualized never really did it for me. I like everything similar to Spiritualized but for some reason they just never cut any new fissures into my brain.
  11:18am Nathan:

@Tom G - I concur having seen them a few timezzzz....

@DC Pat - It's got a kind've Blur thing going, particularly the end of this song.
  11:18am Dead Corporate Eyes:

@ Nathan, yeah, totally! and I love Blur!
  11:19am northguineahills:

I like all things snoozey and boring.
  11:19am Dead Corporate Eyes:

rainy afternoons, naps, watching the news...
  11:20am Wallis:

Snoozy & boring can be a great thing.
  11:21am Nathan:

I think it's that ersatz gospel meets rock'n'roll thing that folks get into because it's so OTT. But the reality is that Jason S has kind've worked himself into a corner with his production values, all the band members / choirs don't really allow for it to expand and let it's hair down in the live sense. It's very on the box. Much prefer Spacemen 3 / Sonic Boom.
  11:21am Caryn:

@Nathan: yep, budgetary mash. Made of potato mash powder, milk powder (no milk in the house), water and salt. Basically just something to fill the stomach. Baked beans or some veg would be nice... Or eggs. I'm saving my soup can for tomorrow and will party with some tomato pasta on Saturday. Nice!
  11:21am Wallis:

but you must embrace snoozy, boring things for what they are: enjoy them BECAUSE they're boring.
  11:22am northguineahills:

Nathan, I agree w/ your assessment, but I do like Jason Spaceman's forays into improv lately.
  11:25am Nathan:

@Caryn - oh crap I was on that sort've diet for a few weeks while waiting to get paid. I completely feel your pain. I too saved soup can for a special treat.. Eugh. Lentil soup is cheap to make in large batches. Real mash ain't hard to conjure on a budget. I had cous cous for 3 days straight.
  11:25am Tom G:

Hey I don't mind boring ... I listen to Luna from time to time!
  11:25am Caryn:

I've liked some Spiritualized stuff, but what I've heard of the new album is kinda meh.
  11:27am dc pat:

A bag of dried black beans is WAY cheaper than cans. Like $1.50. That'll keep you in beans for several days.
  11:28am Mike East:

"Ladies and Gentleman..." is a near perfect album in my very humble opinion. I'm sure many will disagree, but I likes what I likes. I plan to get the new record when I have some disposable income.
  11:29am Caryn:

@Nathan: yeah, have 4 euros saved away, but will probably spend that on a special treat for May Day. Like meat or some fruit. They do have potatoes on sale now at the local supermarket, so I could spend a euro on that to get some proper mash... Over here, a bag of dried beans or lentils is about 2,50-3,99 euros. So not the cheapest option.
  11:29am Cheri Pi:

My thing is to cook several bags of dried beans on Sunday and then freeze them in usable portions so they are at the ready.
  11:30am Nathan:

@Caryn - Next time you get some dough, I recommend investing in quantities of tinned tomatoes, lentils, stock cubes, rice, tinned spinach, various tinned/dry legumes (chick peas / black beans / kidney beans), onions, curry powders and from that you can conjure a slew of various meals that don't feel like punishment for those rainy days / weeks.
  11:30am Mike East:

@dc pat - I could eat black beans and rice everyday if I had to. So cheap, yet so good.
  11:30am dc pat:

oh crap, sorry Caryn. What the fuck Europe?!
  11:30am Nathan:

@caryn Where are you based at the moment?
  11:31am BSI:

It would seem that no amount of dark-chocolate-covered espresso beans will be enough to get me through this "take your progeny to work day" thing...
  11:33am Cheri Pi:

yesterday was take your hangover to work-day.
  11:33am dc pat:

kids to work: I always do that between Xmas and New Years. Nobody in the office, we just draw and listen to tunes all day.

BSI: oh, you're dealing with other peoples' kids...
  11:33am Cheri Pi:

He's dealing with OPP.
  11:33am dc pat:

CheriPi: that's everyday over here...
  11:34am Dead Corporate Eyes:

ha ha Cheri you just beat me to it!
  11:35am BSI:

@dcp: aye. Other peoples'. I could never handle one of my own. Let's just say NOT THE RIGHT TYPE. Thankfully, Missus BSI is the same. So, the coffee-beans are a bust. Moving on to scotch maybe?
  11:35am Cheri Pi:

Yeah, you know me.
  11:36am Nathan:

I loved going to work with my parents. I learned about early days computer networking and got to see 9inch floppy disks... oh those were the days. See this stuff sticks in your kids craw.
  11:38am Caryn:

@cheri pi: yeah, I think the main obstacle to being poor is not owning a freezer. It would be helpful to make lots of food at once.
@Nathan: Finland. It has some of the most expensive food prices in Europe. I think that's partly because we're the world's northernmost agricultural country. The big box stores a bit cheaper, but it would cost 8 euros to get to the nearest one by bus, so the trips alone would eat up the discounts. But in May, I'm eligible for church food assistance again, so looking forward to getting some actual food then. That's when I stock up on pantry items.
  11:38am Dead Corporate Eyes:

my kids could watch me post on WFMU all day...
  11:38am dc pat:

crap I think this is the monthly birthday lunch today ...must..get...out..of it...they eat shitty food around here.
  11:38am BSI:

@Nathan: that's a good point. My mother was at a postal service sorting station, & this was the mid '70s so it was the age of computing via 72-column punched cards, huge spools of magnetic tape, etc...

But then, I'm pretty sure I didn't run around that office screeching like a pheasant possessed by demons.
  11:38am northguineahills:

Lucky for me, ms. ngh doesn't want kids until she's my age, and I have 6.5 years on her.
  11:39am Caryn:

@cheri pi: hah!
  11:39am Nathan:

@BSI I find if you can't beat 'em join 'em. It's an attitude thing. I kind've like kids being a large one myself. But if you give it a go to interact with them you might be surprised at how annoyance turns to something resembling non-annoyance. Just a thought. But yeah some are demon spawn and should be poked with sharp sticks until they stop moving.
  11:40am northguineahills:

ok, I had no queso, so I used tofu french onion cream cheese (better for my lactose intolerant GI), but I also found some fresh tomatoes, and naga jolokia sauce.
  11:41am dc pat:

I know some folks don't need 'em but kids rule. They kind of taught me how to live again. All I was doing was playing in bars, drinking in bars, eating in bars. Now I do all kinds of crap. WAY healthier.
  11:41am Tom G:

So there are 2 Chin Chins ...
  11:42am northguineahills:

I like all of my friends' kids, but that's b/c they're awesome parents (all of them). Now, random kids, that's a different matter.
  11:42am Caryn:

There's no "take your kid to work" tradition here, but my dad would take us to work with him on weekends. I still remember the fun going through the storerooms with the boxes full of old computer punch cards and ancient computers. They also had a plough in the staff coffee room!
  11:43am Mike East:

My 7 year old is here testing out guitar amps and drawing. She gets along with my coworkers quite well. If there were more kids here, that might be a different story. The tend to get exponentially louder when they get together.
  11:45am BSI:

@Nathan: true for many folks but for me, it's a total oil-and-water thing. I've always been hysterically anti-kid (even when I WAS one). They generate terrible angst when they get within a few yards. Mrs.BSI and I both shudder at the thought.

But the dog gives us more joy-of-life than I could dream of. I could just stay at home all day, stare at the dog, and laugh my ass off. It happens often.
  11:46am Nathan:

@Caryn Suomi! Yeah I could see it being expensive. The produce there was neither particularly plentiful nor of great quality. I do like how they sell blood by the litre in the supermarket probably because of all the bloodsuckers that reside there. Shitty situation though.. you live in the sticks? Caryn isn't really a Finnish name is it?
  11:47am dc pat:

anti-kid I can understand but....dog people, I just don't get. ick.
  11:48am Nathan:

@dc pat - Hahahaha!
  11:49am dc pat:

Jason: the anarchist thing worked for me. Just do as I tell you... actually I think I said something like "I don't believe in your laws."
  11:49am Andrew Waterloo:

@dc pat, what truly confuses me is pro-cat
  11:49am tim from Champaign:

I got a good one for getting out of jury duty. Yell out "Bullshit!" or "Go To Hell!" whenever any of the attorneys and judge start to speak.
  11:50am dc pat:

best name ever: Here Comes a Big Black Cloud!!
  11:50am Mike East:

my advice for jury duty is to call the number they give you first. I didn't know this, so I drove all the way to Morristown to find out that I had been relieved of duty and could have saved myself a trip by calling the number the night before. Atleast I had an excuse to have the day off.
  11:51am Caryn:

@Nathan: yep, in the sticks. The local store just added condensed milk to its product line with a big hallo. I kept thinking, "seriously, this is such a step up in your product range that you need to publicize it this much?" Caryn's not my actual name, but an anglicized version of my middle name.
  11:51am dc pat:

I have cats but not by choice. Some times they're funny but mostly it's just shit and puke.
  11:51am BSI:

I'm fully in Ken Freedman's anti-cat-internet camp.

As for jury duty, being in DC seems to negate all the crazy stuff. I think the jury pool is too small. No matter what, yr.ass is IN THERE. Almost like acting like a psycho increases your chances of serving.
  11:53am Caryn:

I'm pro-cat. Well, pro-most pets, really.
  11:53am dc pat:

BSI: true, I get the call every 2 years on the dot, and almost ALWAYS get picked.
  11:55am Nathan:

@Caryn - Whoa yeah.. Go Finland! I went to a wedding there once. Weirdest wedding I ever went to... everyone was dreadfully quiet through the service, waiting outside the reception, through the dinner... then the drinking... then the speeches... then well all hell broke loose. The 5 litre jugs of Koskenkorva were loosed the reindeer meat came out and the rest was a blur. My finnish ex always said: "first they're quiet , then they talk, then they start laughing, then they start fighting" she was right.
  11:55am Nathan:

@dc pat - You should inform them next time that you're a regular freeform radio listener.
  11:56am dc pat:

Nathan: yeah, no streaming in the waiting room...
  11:58am Parq:

Been busy, so summing up: Kids in the work place -- for it. Serving jury duty -- for it. Cats on the internet -- just sort of accept it's there, like rain and pollen.
  11:58am Nathan:

@Caryn - and the classic 'everything bad comes from Russia' line cracks me up.
  11:58am Caryn:

@Nathan: yep, sounds about right. There's a saying "Finns know several languages, and stay silent in all of them." Until they drink.
  11:58am BSI:

I recall it's always Ken Burns' BASEBALL documentary on the waiting-room televisions bolted to the ceiling. No escaping the soothing narrator voice and slowly panning still photos...
  12:00pm dc pat:

I wasn't aware of how different Finland and Sweden/Norway are until I recently had a discussion with a Finish coworker.

BSI: yeah, no chance of permier league there...
  12:01pm Caryn:

@Nathan: yeah, I think when you've historically been a country wedged between two major powers and keep getting swapped from the one to the other like some re-gifted waffle iron, you turn bitter. The Poles have the same history and have the line about being the doormat of Europe that everyone steps on.
  5:25am jing:

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