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Favoriting June 6, 2022: Surveillance roundup

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Today: Surveillance roundup. The surveillance state keeps growing, with new assaults on privacy launched by Mastercard, JPMorgan, even the Mets at Citi Field. And portable spy apps like Clearview and PimEyes allow anyone with a smartphone to identify you on the street. This sort of news doesn’t get enough coverage, which is why we have to discuss it on Techtonic.

Google collects almost 40 data points per user - the most of top tech giants (AtlasVPN, May 25, 2022): “They [Google] gather your name, phone number, payment information if you have made any purchases through Google, email address, emails you send and receive, films, photographs, documents, and spreadsheets you have stored, and your Youtube comments. On top of that, Google records your search keywords, video views, and interactions with content and adverts. Even calls made through Google are not private since Google records calling and receiving party numbers, forwarding numbers, call times and dates, call durations, routing information, and call types.”

FTC Charges Twitter with Deceptively Using Account Security Data to Sell Targeted Ads (May 25, 2022): “Twitter asked users to give their phone numbers and email addresses to protect their accounts. The firm then profited by allowing advertisers to use this data to target specific users. ... ‘Twitter obtained data from users on the pretext of harnessing it for security purposes but then ended up also using the data to target users with ads,’ said FTC Chair Lina M. Khan. ‘This practice affected more than 140 million Twitter users, while boosting Twitter’s primary source of revenue.’”

JPMorgan employees describe growing ‘paranoia’ as the company tracks their office attendance, calls, calendars, and more (Insider, May 27, 2022): “one worker even installing a ‘mouse jiggler’ to evade ‘Big Brother’” ... “JPMorgan Chase built a powerful data-collection platform called the ‘Workplace Activity Data Utility’ (or ‘WADU’) shortly before the advent of the coronavirus pandemic. It has inspired widespread suspicion and mistrust in the two years since, the workers said in interviews. ... The bank tracks a variety of workplace-related data about hundreds of thousands of workers’ communications and activities throughout the day. Tracking of individual employees’ activities begins the moment they log into their virtual workspaces until they log out. Some employees described adopting unusual behaviors [like the ‘mouse jiggler’] to evade the system’s detection during breaks or interludes throughout the day.”

• “Every new crisis, we increase surveillance. We increase security theater. We further destroy our expectations of privacy and our rights to liberty and autonomy. Every crisis. Every time. And it never solves anything.” -UNH law professor Tiffany Li, May 25, 2022

Experts Alarmed by Zoom's Tech for Detecting Users' Emotions (Futurism, May 20, 2022): “According to the Thomson Reuters Foundation, human rights experts are worried about Zoom’s plans to develop emotion-detecting software for its products. In an April blog post, the company announced plans for the tech, arguing that emotion and sentiment surveillance could drives sales and productivity.”

Pay ‘with a smile or a wave’: why Mastercard’s new face recognition payment system raises concerns (The Conversation, May 24, 2022): “customers will have to install an app which will take their picture and payment information. This information will be saved and stored on the third-party provider’s servers. At checkout, the customer’s face will be matched with the stored data [and] funds will be deducted automatically. The “wave” option is a bit of a trick: as the customer watches the camera while waving, the camera still scans their face – not their hand. Similar authentication technologies are used on smartphones (face ID) and in many airports around the world, including “smartgates” in Australia. China started using biometrics-based checkout technology back in 2017. But Mastercard is among the first to launch such a system in Western markets – competing with the “pay with your palm” system used at cashier-less Amazon Go and Whole Foods brick and mortars in the United States.”

Opening day at Citi Field brings new eats and attractions for Mets fans (Gothamist, April 15, 2022): “There, a variety of speakers addressed everything from game-day promotions – a Francisco Lindor bobblehead gnome, a Pete Alonso polar bear bobblehead – to some pretty futuristic technology. ‘Our new Mets Express entry technology . . . will allow fans to use their face as their ticket to enter the ballpark,’ explained Oscar Fernandez, the Mets’ vice president of technology solutions.” The article goes straight into reviewing food: “The sandwich was a very tasty if slightly messy bite, with honey dripping off the sides of the biscuit. I moved on to Pig Beach Barbecue, a Brooklyn-based restaurant. . . .”

Face scanner Clearview AI aims to branch out beyond police (AP News, April 1, 2022): “the New York startup is looking to launch a new business venture to compete with the likes of Amazon and Microsoft in verifying people’s identity using facial recognition. The new “consent-based” product would use Clearview’s algorithms to verify a person’s face, but would not involve its ever-growing trove of some 20 billion images, which Ton-That said is reserved for law enforcement use. Such ID checks that can be used to validate bank transactions or for other commercial purposes are the “least controversial use case” of facial recognition, he said. ... One of its biggest known federal contracts is with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement — particularly its investigative arm, which has used the technology to track down both the victims and perpetrators of child sexual exploitation. Clearview in March also started offering its services for free to the Ukrainian military, in part to help identify dead Russian soldiers using Clearview’s repository of about 2 billion images scraped from Russian social media website VKontakte.”

Facial recognition firm Clearview AI tells investors it’s seeking massive expansion beyond law enforcement (Washington Post, Feb 16, 2022): “The facial recognition company Clearview AI is telling investors it’s on track to have 100 billion facial photos in its database within a year, enough to ensure ‘almost everyone in the world will be identifiable’...”

A Face Search Engine Anyone Can Use Is Alarmingly Accurate (by Kashmir Hill in the NYT, May 26, 2022): “For $29.99 a month, a website called PimEyes offers a potentially dangerous superpower from the world of science fiction: the ability to search for a face, finding obscure photos that would otherwise have been as safe as the proverbial needle in the vast digital haystack of the internet. A search takes mere seconds. You upload a photo of a face, check a box agreeing to the terms of service and then get a grid of photos of faces deemed similar, with links to where they appear on the internet.” But the founder said not to worry, because... “he was relying on people to act ‘ethically,’ offering little protection against the technology’s erosion of the long-held ability to stay anonymous in a crowd.”

My students cheated... A lot (by Matt Crump, May 26, 2022). Crump is a teacher at Brooklyn College who, unbeknownst to the students, joined a WhatsApp chat set up by his students. “I opened the chat. There they were, all those pictures, the same ones from the photos app. I had forgotten that WhatsApp has a setting to automatically save all of the media posted in the chat to my phone. I wasn’t hacked. My students were cheating like frenetic spambots. This was going to be bad.”

Accused of Cheating by an Algorithm, and a Professor She Had Never Met (by Kashmir Hill in the NYT, May 27, 2022): “Keeping test takers honest has become a multimillion-dollar industry, but Honorlock and its competitors, including ExamSoft, ProctorU and Proctorio, have faced major blowback along the way: widespread activism, media reports on the technology’s problems and even a Senate inquiry. Some surveilled test takers have been frustrated by the software’s invasiveness, glitches, false allegations of cheating and failure to work equally well for all types of people. ... Honorlock hasn’t previously disclosed exactly how its artificial intelligence works, but a company spokeswoman revealed that the company performs face detection using Rekognition, an image analysis tool that Amazon started selling in 2016. The Rekognition software looks for facial landmarks — nose, eyes, eyebrows, mouth — and returns a confidence score that what is onscreen is a face. It can also infer the emotional state, gender and angle of the face.” ... As for Honorlock competitor ProctorU, “ProctorU, an Honorlock competitor, no longer offers an A.I.-only product that flags videos for professors to review. ‘The faculty didn’t have the time, training or ability to do it or do it properly,’ said Jarrod Morgan, ProctorU’s founder. ... All suspicious behavior is now reviewed by one of the company’s approximately 1,300 proctors, most of whom are based abroad in cheaper labor markets.”

Taser abandons plans to build stun gun-equipped drones for schools (by Alex Hern in the Guardian, today, June 6, 2022): “Flying stun gun plan in response to US school shootings was expression of potential, not launch timetable, says CEO.” (See also the July 15, 2019 show for more about Taser/Axon.)

We Need to Take Back Our Privacy (Zeynep Tufekci in the NYT, May 19, 2022) ... along the same lines as, from last November, You Are the Object of a Secret Extraction Operation by Shoshana Zuboff.

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Listener comments!

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Handy Haversack:

Mark and all the Techyon Drives! When things get to shifting, I need me some Techtonics!
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonitors!
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Handy Haversack:

Nice work, David, as always. Up the Runzas!
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ultradamno:

Anyone see the new Meta commercial celebrating targeted ads?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Webhamster Henry:

Every Step You Take, I'll Be Watching You!
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chresti:

Hi Mark and technoffs!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Webhamster Henry:

Which by the way turns out the be true at the local Tim Horton's (if you are in Canada)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Handy Haversack:

No, but my kittens have been paying far too much attention to Techtonic -- Bugbear smashed my laptop!
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Webhamster Henry:

Nice list and visualization (visualisation) , David in London!
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Webhamster Henry:

boingboing.net...
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Will the Sound Guy:

hi Mark Hurst and all!!
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David (in London):

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
  6:06pm
Rolando:

Last week was enjoyable
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Hello Mark, hello friends! Wow, big thanks to David in London for the map. <3
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi all!
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David (in London):

*blushes*
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DanFA:

Thank you David In London
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JeremyB:

Amazing!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Webhamster Henry:

Tableau was a rival of a company I worked for, Exago...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
BerkeleyGuy:

Nice Map. Missing a few good book stores in the East Bay and North Bay. David in London, Thank you
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
chresti:

Wow Davidkins!
Avatar 6:10pm
Jeff Moore:

Thanks, David!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Handy Haversack:

Oh, goodness, the shadows of the new condo towers on the Greenpoint waterfront are so ominous in the map image you used, David. A bar of darkness across the gate.

But your work is excellent!
  6:12pm
Crei6hton:

Evening WFMU
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wolfingham:

Fantastic list. Thank you, David! I'll add unnameable books in prospect heights (Brooklyn) to anyone hanging in the comment board this evening.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
DanFA:

Mark, you should try to get Kashmir Hill on the show. She's a journalist for mostly the NY Times and Gizmodo who's been covering facial recognition for years and Big Tech.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
chresti:

Skylight in LA on Vermont
  6:13pm
GC in Baltimore:

Two or three weeks back, Harry Shearer did a whole segment on his Le Show about all the different ways that ICE has morphed into a Domestic Surveillance Organization. Look for it—frightening!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
David (in London):

Thank you for the nice comments all, most kind.

Webhamster, haven't come across Exago before. Any good?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
DanFA:

Anyone on here have any experience with VPNs?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Ciggy:

Where's my Techtonic T-shirt?
Did Google intercept it?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
David (in London):

"A toxic surveillance cesspool". A classic Hurstian gem.
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Handy Haversack:

DanFA, I have used one for years. I wouldn't web without one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
DanFA:

@Handy, which VPN do you use?
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Wendy del Formaggio:

David in London, if you're taking new bookstores for the map, please add Arch Bridge Bookshop in Bellows Falls, VT. Thank you! <3
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Will the Sound Guy:

i use duck duck go as a browser
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Handy Haversack:

DanFA: From Mark's excellent Creative Good site: goodreports.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Handy Haversack:

I use Private Internet Access.
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DanFA:

@Handy, thanks.
  6:19pm
queems:

o dear
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Handy Haversack:

What award did Twitter just win? A Hursty? A Techtony?
  6:21pm
mick:

Wait, tell a Luddite, where is David’s list?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Handy Haversack:

mick: public.tableau.com...
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Jim the Poet:

I need a mouse jiggler
  6:22pm
mick:

Thanks!
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Webhamster Henry:

@D(iL) Exago got acquired a year or so ago, but it was a pretty powerful way to make up web based adaptable reports and dashboards.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Bas NL:

I want one!
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Webhamster Henry:

That mouse wiggler is going to confuse those web heat map viewers.
  6:24pm
Rolando:

Love this sort of show.
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DanFA:

Jimmy crack corn and I don't care
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Webhamster Henry:

Get one on ebay: www.ebay.com...
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David (in London):

Of Mice Jigglers and Men.
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Handy Haversack:

Certainly more jiggling than I was expecting from Techtonic.
  6:25pm
GC in Baltimore:

For Hobo symbols please see an excellent movie called Who Is Bozo Texino? By Bill Daniel
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ultradamno:

www.logodesignlove.com...
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Jim the Poet:

I will come to your apartment and jiggle your mouse while you make us both ham sandwiches
  6:26pm
Dean:

Sounds like the smart kids at JPMorgan have read Finn Brunton & Helen Nissenbaum's Obfuscation: A User's Guide for Privacy and Protest.
  6:26pm
Sam:

It’s like when Homer used the little mechanical bird to keep hitting the Y key so he could take a break. (After he purposely gained weight so he could work from home!)
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Webhamster Henry:

Emotion detecting from audio is a kind of side effect of really good ML based speech transcription.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Webhamster Henry:

AI thinks Mark is cranky all the time.
  6:29pm
queems:

i just got a notification today that my livejournal just turned 21 years old. i prefer the version of the internet where a 12 year old could make a livejournal to whatever this version is
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David (in London):

'Zoom is sensing that everyone in this meeting is bored out of their minds'
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Paul:

Can anyone suggest a good Google alternative for searching
  6:29pm
Sam:

Lycos
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Paul:

Thank u Sam
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Wendy del Formaggio:

@Paul: I use DuckDuckGo for a search engine.
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ultradamno:

I thought rubes went to carnys
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Webhamster Henry:

Duck Duck Go, which also has browsers
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The Count of Al Dente:

@David in London - A few book stores in Minneapolis, MN: Magers & Quinn, Mayday, The Irreverent Bookworm, Milkweed Books, Moon Palace Books, Eat My Words Bookstore, The Book House, Birchbark Books & Native Arts, Wild Rumpus, Black Garnet Books...
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watchpocket:

@Paul: DuckDuckGo.com
  6:30pm
queems:

alta vista
  6:30pm
Sam:

I don’t think Lycos exists anymore though.
  6:30pm
Paul:

Ah ok yes I use duck duck go as a browser but didn’t realize you could do searches as well!
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chresti:

ecosia
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watchpocket:

"It is in no way obvious that the freedom to have a private converstation will survive." -Whitfield Diffie
  6:31pm
queems:

oh no stop don’t do this to me mark
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watchpocket:

DDG started as a search engine.
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Webhamster Henry:

The tech is bad, the work culture that drives it is the real problem.
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Jim the Poet:

I call it New Shea
  6:32pm
Sam:

Soon everything will be named after a corporation. Poor people will name their kids Pepsi so they can afford to get an education.
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The Count of Al Dente:

Besides, Duck, use Scriptblocker, Tor Browser, etc.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

I bank with a credit union and I don't do online banking. If there's a credit union near you, go with them. Banks are designed to profit from you. A credit union exists for its members. If you want to read more, here's a page about it from my CU: www.802cu.com...
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Handy Haversack:

I call it New Shea, too! That really jiggles my mouse.
  6:33pm
queems:

i want the gay fanny pack coming up later this month
  6:33pm
Sam:

Can I use his face as a urinal?
  6:34pm
Paul:

Thanks Count! And Wendy!
  6:34pm
Dean:

What exactly was the problem overcome by a technology solution?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Ciggy:

My ex just mailed me a Billy Joel / NY Islanders bobble head. BJ is in uniform playing a piano. Weird.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
watchpocket:

The Google Pixel line of phones allows you to unlock the phone's bootloader.

You can install an alternative operating system. The best of them is GrapheneOS.

When you install it, it completely wipes the Google OS and replaces it with a system uncompromisingly hardened for security and privacy.

I use it, and highly recommend it. grapheneos.org
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Handy Haversack:

Other add-ons: uBlock Origin, DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials, HTTPS Everywhere, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes, Clear URLs, and Cookie Auto Delete.
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The Count of Al Dente:

BTW, Howdy to those of you in the Monday Evening Listeners Club.
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Bas NL:

Remember to change your face at least once a month.
  6:38pm
Firebottle:

Techtonic is my weekly sermon on the mount. Keep it up Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Good evening, Mark and onlookers. Kids can play with Surveillance Elmo, Surveillance Barbie, Surveillance G.I.Joe and other neat toys to enhance their playtime experience.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
David (in London):

'Your face is insufficiently secure. Please try again'.
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MarciB:

Ugh face scanning seems like it started with airport security
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ultradamno:

So tech companies are just boasting of working with law enforcement now?
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Register your face with Hertz renty cars and drive off the lot in 15 seconds less time!
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DanFA:

"Sorry, we're having trouble locating your face. Please try again later."
  6:42pm
Sam:

Exactly. And then a bunch of psychos with assault rifles storm thr capitol, and use this excellent database to wipe out all possible threats to their rule. How could it not happen?
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David (in London):

'Unexpected face in bagging area.'
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David (in London):

I'm going to have to wear this bloody fox mask 24/7 at this rate.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

I'm going to tattoo my face to my butt and show them that whenever they want to scan me.
  6:44pm
queems:

i’m not saying that i require alcohol to listen to this show but it definitely doesn’t hurt
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Webhamster Henry:

I don't think Mark is going to get all the way to the end of this list!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
DanFA:

@Webhamster Henry, his blood pressure is too high. Call for help.
  6:45pm
Sam:

It’s not even tech companies that are the real problem. It’s dictatorships. Even a weak dictatorship can instantly become unstoppable given the network of surveillance. Imagine if Hitler had had cameras everywhere.
  6:45pm
Dean:

Introduces new possibilities for the old joke:
Q. Got a match?
A. Heh, yeah. Your face and my...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
ultradamno:

Sounds like a great help for stalkers
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Greg from ZONE 5:

Time to go full-on Point Break and start wearing a mask everywhere.
Avatar 🤖 6:48pm
MarciB:

I'm a professional photo organizer and have to use some AI for my clients (I use Lightroom Classic). And this show - omg, even more terrifying than I originally thought.
  6:48pm
Old Dave:

2000 Mules has suddenly given Trumpers a "high tech" excuse to refute all further elections.
They now love all forms of surveillance!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Awqafina from Queens had an episode about an app that would delete your photos from the internet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
ultradamno:

Though this sounds like it will retroactively make facial recognition work the way it does on Dick Wolf shows.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
chresti:

LOL
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Mark always has such great interviews, but I gotta say, my favorite episodes are when he rants, Howard Beale-style. TELL IT, MARK!
  6:50pm
Ciggy:

Hobo sign appropriate for tonight's show:
A spearhead — a warning to defend yourself.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Webhamster Henry:

Mark should write down his rants and get Hearty White to read them.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
David (in London):

Second that Wendy.
The full Hurst can be used as an energy.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
chresti:

Yeah! Mine too Wendy!
Avatar 🤖 6:51pm
MarciB:

I am sharing this with several friends as a MUST listen!
  6:51pm
Shondra:

How did this company gain access to all those FB pics? Did FB sell that to them?
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Jim the Poet:

Mark and Hearty should debate!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

@Webhamster Henry: OMG yes!
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DanFA:

@Webhamster Henry, with musical accompaniment.
  6:51pm
Shondra:

Is the EU regulating this with privacy laws?
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Webhamster Henry:

Courtney Edison will drop in and talk about tapping telegraph lines.
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ultradamno:

I'm hoping this show will be all mixes of sounds of globes spinning.
  6:52pm
Rolando:

PIMS - Personal Information Monitoring System
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MarciB:

@Shondra I feel like I read something about that - I think so but not sure. Is Europe safer?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
DjLorraine:

Thanks as usual to Mark Hurst and his commitment to intergrity and humanity.
  6:54pm
Dean:

I'm a fan of digital recognition. As in, "See this finger? Get used to it. You're going to see it a lot."
  6:55pm
Old Dave:

2000 Mules. Don't give in to this crap.
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Bas NL:

Waiting for a facial recognition system face off.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Webhamster Henry:

Taser drones to the rescue!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Handy Haversack:

Many thanks, Mark! This was a mitzvah. At which you excel.

Stay opensourced, pals.
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chresti:

Jeez
  6:56pm
Sam:

You just have to hit the drone with a baseball bat before it tazes you.
  6:56pm
Danny in Poughkeepsie:

Thank you so much Mark !!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

Handy! "Mitzvah" is often how I describe Mark and Techtonic, too. :-)
also, I owe you an email! Coming soon...
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David (in London):

Thanks for leading the charge, Mark.
We surely do appreciate it.
Night all.
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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cosmic matrix:

thank u mark
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The Count of Al Dente:

Good show
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
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Webhamster Henry:

I can imagine the taser lines clogging up the drone propellers.
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MarciB:

Mark needs to do a 3 hour show like Jim Price did a few weeks ago!
  6:57pm
Old Dave:

XLN
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ultradamno:

twitter.com...
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Sonderangebot:

Thanks a lot for the reminders as usual!
  6:58pm
Sam:

Great show Mark! Thanks!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. See you later! See you all later. Mwah hah hah hah!
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Yvang:

Thanks!!!
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Webhamster Henry:

Thanks Mark! Next week: more bookstores!
  6:58pm
lazy pierogi:

thank you, mark!

perhaps you've mentioned before, but what would be a good alternative to gmail?
  6:58pm
Rolando:

Love your work Mark!! Thanks
  6:58pm
Bea:

Thanks Mark and Techtons!
  6:59pm
Andres:

Great work, Mark! Truly a roundup by surveillance.
  6:59pm
kevlicki:

Lost track of time🤦🏼‍♂️
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Sam:

That’s why there aren’t school shootings in other countries. Cuz of drones.
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DjLorraine:

I was alway told if you aren't guilty why would you care. But i remember an officer of the law saying there are a lot of crimes that rich people want someone to take their place on prison.
  6:59pm
kevlicki:

See you in the archives
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Will the Sound Guy:

thank you Mark, be well everyone!!!
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Thank you, Mark! Take care, everybody!
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Webhamster Henry:

@lazy Pierogi I actually pay for email, from panix.com, probably the oldest public internet provider in NYC. I do have a number of bogus gmail accounts for testing/burner purposes.
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Jim the Poet:

Great show!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Is that really you or is it Jim the Po-bot?
  7:02pm
lazy pierogi:

thank you henry. interesting. will check it out!
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RevErie:

@Mark can you add this bookstore:
downboundbooks.com
Cincinnati, OH
  10:06pm
Ed:

Two more bookstores:
- Seattle: Left Bank Books (https://leftbankbooks.com/)
- Bellingham, WA: Village Books (https://www.villagebooks.com/)
  7:05am
Ed:

Two more bookstores:
- Seattle: Left Bank Books (https://leftbankbooks.com/)
- Bellingham, WA: Village Books (https://www.villagebooks.com/)
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