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October 25, 2021: "Red Heaven" directors Lauren DeFilippo & Katherine Gorringe
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Tonight: "Red Heaven" directors Lauren DeFilippo & Katherine Gorringe
Links:
• Red Heaven film site
• Red Heaven on Altavod. It's also on Apple Plus (though, as always, "avoid Apple.")
• HI-SEAS, the NASA project
• The phrase "red heaven" is based on the Dark Mountain essay Openings: Freeing Space for a New Cosmology, by Tim Fox
• Related references:
- Space Madness, the Ren & Stimpy episode
- Packing for Mars, by Mary Roach
- The Martian, by Andy Weir
- Moonbase 8, TV show
- Spaceship Earth, documentary about Biosphere 2
- Techtonic interview of Toby Ord (April 20, 2020), giving odds on humanity's existential crises
- ...and of course, anything about Ernest Shackleton.
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Listener comments!
Also, I'm writing from inside the Kitten Room! This will be Goblin and Bugbear's first Techtonic!
To me, Kim Stanley Robinson's careful, slow, and intensely imagined Mars Trilogy is the ur-text of Mars colonization. Interested in the perspective from the documentary.
plus this cca-annex.net...
en.wikipedia.org...
Ren and Stimpy shout out! So funny!
www.buzzfeednews.com...
I didn't miss other people one bit.
Oh, and yes, Mary Roach's stuff is great.
Love this place too much anyway...
I think we need to do some very visible great things so that we have an high bar toward which to reach. We used to say 'We can put a man on the Moon, why can't we <A>.'. Well, these days the rejoinder is 'Uh, we can‘t put a man on the Moon.'.
(and Bezos is up in space)
(in other words, we need to have control)
And as to what @hoohoo said, yeah. That's the terrifying thing. Bezos rescues The Expanse without realizing that the dystopian future is presents is the one he's building.
- & that, as DeGrasseTyson says - is the Cosmic Perspective.
But yeah. I am in no current way arguing with your point.
Well, I don't believe in capital punishment. Anyways, we're just matter and the forces governing it—no Destiny, no Marxian History, no Cosmic Justice—so if they play their cards carefully enough there's no reason they'd die quickly.
2 types of motivation…. What is motivating space travel?
Ummm The Universe? what is that
for what, a few wealthy, selfish, egotistical scumbags?
Jack, I don't really know anyone's reaction but mine! Is there some misreading out there? I think it does some experimentation with the consciousness of the "novel's thinking" and the "narrator" that is unique and wonderful and more experimental than 99.9% of pomo "modern" literary fiction.
That's the spirit. We don't still have poverty, war, and injustice because we went to the Moon, we have them because 0.) too many people believe that it's right that we have those, 1.) too many others believe that we can not eliminate them, and 2.) our technological level is still so risibly low that too many people are vindictive and/or religious enough to believe 0.) and that 1.) is either true or still so recently true that it's believable.
Here's to the Machines of Loving Grace.
Forget those mayonnaise sandwiches, avoid the drug alcohol & the moving image and donate that hard earned $ to WFMU!!! Or not it’s ok
Have fun with your new, alien friends! They're the best, they turn everything around them into the Forest/Desert Primeval when you see it through their eyes.
(Also, they, like Lt Worf, are incredibly funny because they are _absolutely_serious_ about everything.)
The irony seems to be that our drive to connect to others has made us more isolated.
Thanks so much, Mark! And thanks, Lauren and Katherine! Much, much appreciated.
Group violence and hate exist in humans because they tend to _strengthen_ social bonds…and if you think Facebook is bad for creating terrible and terribly uniform ideas, just look at any mediæval village or Nineteenth Century shtetl. Technology is bad when it amplifies all that, true.