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October 25, 2021: "Red Heaven" directors Lauren DeFilippo & Katherine Gorringe
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Tonight: "Red Heaven" directors Lauren DeFilippo & Katherine Gorringe
Links:
• Red Heaven film site
• Red Heaven on Altavod. It's also on Apple Plus (though, as always, "avoid Apple.")
• HI-SEAS, the NASA project
• The phrase "red heaven" is based on the Dark Mountain essay Openings: Freeing Space for a New Cosmology, by Tim Fox
• Related references:
- Space Madness, the Ren & Stimpy episode
- Packing for Mars, by Mary Roach
- The Martian, by Andy Weir
- Moonbase 8, TV show
- Spaceship Earth, documentary about Biosphere 2
- Techtonic interview of Toby Ord (April 20, 2020), giving odds on humanity's existential crises
- ...and of course, anything about Ernest Shackleton.
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Listener comments!
ultradamno:
Will the Sound Guy:
Handy Haversack:
Also, I'm writing from inside the Kitten Room! This will be Goblin and Bugbear's first Techtonic!
To me, Kim Stanley Robinson's careful, slow, and intensely imagined Mars Trilogy is the ur-text of Mars colonization. Interested in the perspective from the documentary.
Bas NL:
Webhamster Henry:
Ken From Hyde Park:
Roland from Australia:
joe mulligan:
Ken From Hyde Park:
Webhamster Henry:
DanFA:
sbw:
Will the Sound Guy:
Little Danny:
PaulRobeson1920:
joe mulligan:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
ultradamno:
Cece:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Ken From Hyde Park:
Folsom:
Handy Haversack:
Will the Sound Guy:
PaulRobeson1920:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
tim from washington:
Webhamster Henry:
Stillwell Coney Islander:
Martia Martia Martia:
Handy Haversack:
Webhamster Henry:
ultradamno:
ultradamno:
Jackie G:
Bas NL:
Aye-Aye:
plus this cca-annex.net...
WR:
en.wikipedia.org...
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Jackie G:
Ren and Stimpy shout out! So funny!
Wendy del Formaggio:
tak:
Andres:
listener james from westwood:
Webhamster Henry:
Will the Sound Guy:
Wendy del Formaggio:
Ken From Hyde Park:
Will the Sound Guy:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Handy Haversack:
Marci:
Jackie G:
ultradamno:
Will the Sound Guy:
Roland from Australia:
Bas NL:
Mark Hurst:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
www.buzzfeednews.com...
Mark Hurst:
VincentNifigance:
Wendy del Formaggio:
ultradamno:
(Murakami Whywolf))):
I didn't miss other people one bit.
Oh, and yes, Mary Roach's stuff is great.
ultradamno:
ARB:
coelacanth∅:
Mark Hurst:
Handy Haversack:
Mark Hurst:
Mark Hurst:
coelacanth∅:
Old Dave:
Love this place too much anyway...
(((Murakami Whywolf):
I think we need to do some very visible great things so that we have an high bar toward which to reach. We used to say 'We can put a man on the Moon, why can't we <A>.'. Well, these days the rejoinder is 'Uh, we can‘t put a man on the Moon.'.
hoohoo:
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solo mon:
(Murakami Whywolf))):
tim from washington:
(and Bezos is up in space)
coelacanth∅:
(in other words, we need to have control)
ultradamno:
Handy Haversack:
And as to what @hoohoo said, yeah. That's the terrifying thing. Bezos rescues The Expanse without realizing that the dystopian future is presents is the one he's building.
Wendy del Formaggio:
coelacanth∅:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
solo mon:
Jack:
tim from washington:
coelacanth∅:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
- & that, as DeGrasseTyson says - is the Cosmic Perspective.
Old Dave:
JeremyB:
solo mon:
(((Murakami Whywolf):
ultradamno:
Ken From Hyde Park:
RevErie:
Handy Haversack:
But yeah. I am in no current way arguing with your point.
Jack:
ultradamno:
tim from washington:
coelacanth∅:
(Murakami Whywolf))):
Well, I don't believe in capital punishment. Anyways, we're just matter and the forces governing it—no Destiny, no Marxian History, no Cosmic Justice—so if they play their cards carefully enough there's no reason they'd die quickly.
Handy Haversack:
Bas NL:
solo mon:
Handy Haversack:
solo mon:
Jack:
Bas NL:
Kpx:
timinoak:
Handy Haversack:
tim from washington:
PaulRobeson1920:
2 types of motivation…. What is motivating space travel?
Ummm The Universe? what is that
Jack:
full_english_breakfast:
coelacanth∅:
for what, a few wealthy, selfish, egotistical scumbags?
Bas NL:
timinoak:
Ignore Function:
Andres:
solo mon:
PaulRobeson1920:
Handy Haversack:
Jack, I don't really know anyone's reaction but mine! Is there some misreading out there? I think it does some experimentation with the consciousness of the "novel's thinking" and the "narrator" that is unique and wonderful and more experimental than 99.9% of pomo "modern" literary fiction.
DjLorraine:
ultradamno:
solo mon:
tim from washington:
ultradamno:
Handy Haversack:
Kpx:
(((Murakami Whywolf):
That's the spirit. We don't still have poverty, war, and injustice because we went to the Moon, we have them because 0.) too many people believe that it's right that we have those, 1.) too many others believe that we can not eliminate them, and 2.) our technological level is still so risibly low that too many people are vindictive and/or religious enough to believe 0.) and that 1.) is either true or still so recently true that it's believable.
Here's to the Machines of Loving Grace.
Jack:
chresti:
solo mon:
ultradamno:
Handy Haversack:
Handy Haversack:
RevErie:
Ken From Hyde Park:
PaulRobeson1920:
Forget those mayonnaise sandwiches, avoid the drug alcohol & the moving image and donate that hard earned $ to WFMU!!! Or not it’s ok
Bas NL:
Marci:
Wendy del Formaggio:
(Murakami Whywolf))):
Have fun with your new, alien friends! They're the best, they turn everything around them into the Forest/Desert Primeval when you see it through their eyes.
(Also, they, like Lt Worf, are incredibly funny because they are _absolutely_serious_ about everything.)
solo mon:
LiXiviated Life:
The irony seems to be that our drive to connect to others has made us more isolated.
ultradamno:
Old Dave:
ARB:
Handy Haversack:
Thanks so much, Mark! And thanks, Lauren and Katherine! Much, much appreciated.
PaulRobeson1920:
Webhamster Henry:
Jackie G:
Roland from Australia:
coelacanth∅:
LiXiviated Life:
Ciggy:
chresti:
tim from washington:
Handy Haversack:
hi:
Bas NL:
Stillwell Coney Islander:
ultradamno:
Roland from Australia:
Sunny:
Kpx:
ultradamno:
coelacanth∅:
dave miss:
Mark Hurst:
coelacanth∅:
Kpx:
coelacanth∅:
Mark Hurst:
(((Murakami Whywolf):
Group violence and hate exist in humans because they tend to _strengthen_ social bonds…and if you think Facebook is bad for creating terrible and terribly uniform ideas, just look at any mediæval village or Nineteenth Century shtetl. Technology is bad when it amplifies all that, true.
ultradamno:
Webhamster Henry:
Jackie G:
McGroovey:
McGroovey:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Kpx:
Kpx:
JJ NY-SC:
Mark Hurst:
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