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Terje Rypdal, Miroslav Vitous & Jack DeJohnette  believer   Favoriting Terje Rypdal, Miroslav Vitous & Jack DeJohnette            0:00:00 (Pop-up)
marie delta  les heures   Favoriting route de nuit            0:05:43 (Pop-up)
lee noble  my alien jaguar   Favoriting Amethyst: New Sounds from Moon Glyph Records v/a  glyph records        *   0:10:13 (Pop-up)
brian eno  2/2   Favoriting music for airports            0:16:01 (Pop-up)
Brian Jackson, Adrian Younge, and Ali Shaheed Muhammad  bain de minuit   Favoriting jid008  jazz is dead        *   0:25:17 (Pop-up)
 
Everything But the Girl  Corcovado   Favoriting brazilian love songs v/a            0:37:02 (Pop-up)
lake ruth  westway   Favoriting birds of america            0:39:25 (Pop-up)
Laurent Saïet & Guests  mambo of the 21st century   Favoriting after the wave  trace label        *   0:43:33 (Pop-up)
nancy sinatra  you only live twice   Favoriting nancy in london            0:46:42 (Pop-up)
john carrol kirby  Tenderfoot Pegasus   Favoriting       Single    *   0:49:37 (Pop-up)
LaBelle  get you somebody new   Favoriting the best of patti and labelle        rip sarah dash    0:52:17 (Pop-up)
Quantic & Nidia Gongora  balada borracha   Favoriting       Single    *   0:59:18 (Pop-up)
 
solange  weary   Favoriting a seat at the table            1:06:38 (Pop-up)
ela minus  el cielo no es de nadie   Favoriting actsof rebellion            1:10:13 (Pop-up)
UZUPIS  slide into nothing   Favoriting UZUPIS  Wollesonic        *   1:16:08 (Pop-up)
Dezron Douglas & Brandee Younger  equinox   Favoriting force majeure            1:16:33 (Pop-up)
kitty waters  back water blues   Favoriting female blues singers vol 14 1923-32            1:21:38 (Pop-up)
24 carat black  you're slipping away   Favoriting one stop            1:24:42 (Pop-up)
bobby oroza  breaktru ( this love demo)   Favoriting           *   1:30:02 (Pop-up)
janet kay  silhouette   Favoriting             1:33:25 (Pop-up)
peaking lights  telephone call   Favoriting cosmic logic            1:36:58 (Pop-up)
santigold  can't get enough of myself   Favoriting 99            1:40:55 (Pop-up)
poets of rhythm  fondle rock   Favoriting discern/define            1:44:46 (Pop-up)
labelle  lady marmalade   Favoriting             1:50:51 (Pop-up)
Durand Jones & The Indications  sexy thang   Favoriting private space          *   1:52:34 (Pop-up)
foodman  sanbashi feat cotto center   Favoriting yasuragi land  hyperdub        *   1:55:48 (Pop-up)
yola  now you're here   Favoriting stand for myself  eay eye sound        *   1:58:32 (Pop-up)
 
bruno bavota  apartment song #5   Favoriting For Apartments  Temporary Residence Ltd.        *   2:08:09 (Pop-up)
rachika nayar  whateverness   Favoriting fragments          *   2:10:35 (Pop-up)
Ståle Storløkken  fouth sphere   Favoriting ghost caravan  hubro        *   2:12:31 (Pop-up)
eboni band  fasso ( the motherhood)   Favoriting eboni band  we are busy bodies        *   2:17:46 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy  cafard   Favoriting et si je m'en vais avant toi            2:26:09 (Pop-up)
vanessa  Sou   Favoriting           *   2:28:49 (Pop-up)
 
myriam gendron  un rose ( pour richard)   Favoriting Ma Délire: Songs of Love, Lost & Found  Feeding Tube Records        *   2:36:23 (Pop-up)
vetiver  fog emotion   Favoriting the errant charm            2:40:21 (Pop-up)
mataparda  la papa suave   Favoriting La Ola Interior:Spanish Ambient & Acid Exoticism 1983-1990 (V/a)  bongo joe        *   2:43:55 (Pop-up)
persona  sol   Favoriting som  black sweat  1975/2021      *   2:45:33 (Pop-up)
nara  marcha da quarta-feira de cinzas   Favoriting me            2:49:07 (Pop-up)
anika  never coming back   Favoriting changes          *   2:53:34 (Pop-up)
snow palms  white cranes return   Favoriting land waves  village green        *   2:56:30 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

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Handy Haversack:

Good gray Thursday from your insular city of the Manhattoes, Trouble and all the Troubled.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:01am
YETI BOB:

Time for Trouble with a capital T.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am
listener james from westwood:

Morning, Trouble and all! Gray and windy over northern Jersey. Storm coming I'd wager.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
Trouble:

good thursday to all!
  9:05am
bobobobobob:

great ECM lp i have it!!!!if u dont have it Git it!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am
Zipperhead7:

Morning Trouble. Oh wow -- I thought this was Terje Rypdal! One of my alltime favorite guitarists. This is a very auspicious beginning!
  9:06am
Jackie G:

Good old Miroslav. And Terje, and Jackie DeJo as well
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Fredericks:

Vitous has been following me around lately. Good thing I like him alright.
Avatar 9:07am
TDK60:

Good morning.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07am
Irene Trudel:

Gentle good morning, Trouble and Modern Worldly People!
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HyperDose:

All this rain talk as the sky gets cloudier. Looks like I shall conduct my balcony business now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:09am
Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, Trouble. Witches float and wood floats. Ergo, witches are made out of wood.
  9:09am
Jackie G:

These sounds are certainly therapeutic to me ears. And cleansing.
Avatar 9:15am
Lixiviated Life:

hello friends
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16am
Mike W:

oh the hours
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βrian:

Looks like it's going to be one of those perfectly sunny days.
Good morning.
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TDK60:

I still have 'Airports' on cassette! Also, borrowed the CD from the library to get a digital version.
Avatar 9:18am
Sylvia:

Hello Trouble and all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:18am
Irene Trudel:

Lovin' this pretty, drifty opening set. Makes it difficult to get myself motivated to go in to the office today.
Avatar 9:20am
βrian:

I once played this non-stop for 3 days when I needed to get a paper done.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am
steveo:

love
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am
Birdman:

@βrian This was a big paper-writing soundtrack for me as well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am
melinda:

Love this, can't remember if I have the cd or not
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22am
melinda:

also like amy sillman, I have a postcard from a show she did at Dartmouth in the early 2000s
Avatar 9:24am
vegan_snax:

good morning All, Trouble. Feeling melancholy this morning... I dreamt last night that I was crying at my late professor Barbara Ess' death, still clearly unprocessed and confusing. Nice and synchronistic to see that beautiful Amy Sillman, also a professor from my alma mater, whom I recall Barbara was quite fond of her work. She would love the current soundscape paired with this tender painting. Life doesn't last forever, but the soul lives on sometimes through art and friendship and remembrance...
  9:26am
tristan in ptown:

most excellent walking out to the beach music amongst fiddler crabs... thanks trouble
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26am
Trouble:

that is soooo true @vegan snax
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27am
chris_in_space:

Loving the vibe of the start of the show today, @Trouble.
  9:31am
tristan in ptown:

oh yes them crabs be diggin it
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am
Woo:

@vegan snax, I saw Y Pants play at my college in Rhode Island. It opened my mind.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am
Jack McGuire:

I think like Terry.
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βrian:

Misfits and malcontents! Where's Irwin?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36am
listener:

it could be hollywood's hamfisted attempt at making the character seem sensitive
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thatpatsmith:

Stop watching that.
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TDK60:

I can't help. I worked in a record shop once. Everyone who worked there was cheerful and sprite, except me.
  9:37am
Fernando:

EBTG. Bless your heart.
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sphere:

bottom line for Hollywood is money = power and respect and success. most music people do not make much money unless they are a *STAR*, so they are automatically losers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37am
Zipperhead7:

Terje = terry-uh
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
Birdman:

Hollywood melodrama
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
Stephen O:

Intelligence and curiosity equals misery and pain
  9:38am
tristan in ptown:

of course Hollywoodn't get it right
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
dei xhrist:

Welcome to Nightvale has a record store owner who fits the cool trope - she is in to stuff so obscure, that it's over if she tells anyone about it. Marisol of Unwell (another podcast) is a stable, responsible, and charming record store owner. Podcasts = new tropes
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vegan_snax:

@Woo that's awesome!
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oshiwoshi:

what @sphere said.

Spent my 20's working those places - bosses were allsorts > outright capitalists, druggies, and those whose love of music was the only thing keeping them going
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
unpopularfred:

two thoughts (you've caught me in a contemplative mood this morning) I worked in record stores for a long time and it was a job a loved but paid a totally unsustainable wage, leading to lots of debt and not doing things (traveling, buying a house, building up savings) because I had no money, which is perceivable as loserdom. Also, music can be an escape, and many people prefer living in the escape world to the "real" one, or a least the one the success driven live in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am
coolioiglesias:

the owner of the local record shop by me is practically the mayor of the neighborhood. this trope don't hold water!
  9:46am
E:

I missed the theme of this discussion and want to know. What is the trope being discussed exactly?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47am
coolioiglesias:

sad sack record store workers
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HyperDose:

It would seem that unofficial "mayors" run neighborhoods better than many elected officials.
  9:47am
billylondon:

Wow trouble today’s show is approaching some kinda perfect!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47am
Mike W:

oh Trouble, yes, the best Bond theme evah
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:47am
Webhamster Henry:

Hi Modern World listeners!
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coolioiglesias:

@HyperDose 1,000%
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:48am
Ken in Fort Worth:

Have you ever heard Bjork's cover of this?!?!
  9:48am
Andres:

Hello! Love this JB theme!! Never heard Nancy’s take. No bad versions!
  9:48am
Arlene:

The Nancy Sinatra is so great --and creepy.
  9:48am
E:

So like the trope of record store workers being "too cool" but in actuality are sad sacks?
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oshiwoshi:

Bond may have been a rapist but he certainly had a wicked soundtrack
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:48am
PaulRobeson1920:

What is the good life and how do I lead it? Intelligence = seeking
Or nothing at all

Well… the valid inference would be “you are intelligent therefore you are intelligent” nothing more


Hi Hi Hi Ya’ll!!! Nice
Tunes Trouble!!!! Beautiful warm day outside!!!!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49am
unpopularfred:

or, substitute this song for my comment (you only live twice), the two lives out of balance
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βrian:

Out of coffee and Earl Grey is not cutting it. Gotta go sit on the stoop and roast up a batch.

Love the Nancy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am
Zipperhead7:

I went to a rave in Houston many years ago, and the DJ played "You Only Live Twice" as the very last song. The doors were opened and it was a bright morning with workers on their way to their jobs. We staggered outside like survivors of a plane crash.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am
Stanley:

oshiwoshi - I saw that also in the Guardian today.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am
Handy Haversack:

HyperDose, I assume your balcony work includes lots of locality admin and informal mayoring.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am
unpopularfred:

@Andres - Nancy's is the original, is it not?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:52am
Yes:

good morning . this is lovely
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:52am
joe mulligan:

@zipperhead what a 90s experience! You only live twice reminds me of the theme from Midnight Cowboy and I like that
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woodzepper:

Just tuned in and it sounds like party time!
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TDK60:

I know a cobbler in a small town who is a sort of mayor. Everyone stops in to chat, whether shoes are involved or not.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am
Handy Haversack:

Troubled Ones, just want to plug this spreadsheet we created to let WFMU listeners post gigs that interest them and might interest other WFMU listeners. Share what has caught your eye with the community. There are tabs for NJ, NYC, and farther afield places.

docs.google.com...

Not sure how sustainable it will prove to be since I feel like I don't want to become someone who's always hyping it. But let's see what happens.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56am
coolioiglesias:

@Zipperhead7 what a visceral thing, the daylight at the end of the rave. Dia:Beacon had an installation in the basement that emulates this effect. music by Carl Craig, giant warehouse feeling/sound, and then at a certain point, the blinds on the high-op windows open automatically, letting the sunlight in. sent chills down my spine! www.diaart.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:57am
TonyR:

Sarah!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:59am
joe mulligan:

@Coolio one of my favorite sounds was waking up at daybreak to the sounds of a rave about a mile away in burning man in the late 90s. Lee Gamble made some music that sounded like that
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βrian:

Leaky spreadsheets are a feature of modern life.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00am
Zipperhead7:

What a great link, Coolio! Thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02am
coolioiglesias:

@joe these moments really stick. i wonder when i'll go to a rave again... impossible to say, i guess? different world now
  10:02am
Andres:

unpopularfred: Oops! I confused Bond themes/artists. Something sounding different to me this morning. Either way agreed with other comment, best of the Bonds!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04am
joe mulligan:

oh wow that Carl Craig: Party/After-Party pretty much is it. I did a listener hour show a while back I called "You're too old to rave"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05am
dei xhrist:

Thanks for the list Handy - much better than the email lists from the early Aughts
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07am
Birdman:

I feel you, Trouble. I'm not used to orchestrating a class of 30 teenagers quite yet, after a nearly two year break.
  10:07am
Mark:

Never listening to your show again, you are one sick individual.
  10:08am
Jason still at home eating breakfast:

♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡
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TDK60:

To use a good old-fashioned word: balderdash!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am
joe mulligan:

now we rave! tweet tweet!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am
Yes:

:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:13am
listener james from westwood:

Love love love this Ela Minus track.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am
Pale Son:

Morning, all! Joining late but enjoying working to this Thursday vibe.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16am
karlward:

JAZZ
  10:19am
hendrix wolfbat:

What was the instrumental song before ela minus?
  10:19am
hendrix wolfbat:

Wasn’t there a song between solange and Ela minus?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am
PaulRobeson1920:

Good morning, Hendrix wolfbat
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Marco Esquandolas:

Hi Trouble and Everyone! The more I hear Brandee Younger, the more I get into it. Thanks for playing this. I think I'll buy an album of hers this week.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21am
karlward:

What if we start holding jazz raves, at night, all night, along the side of the highway somewhere? Exactly the same as the regular rave, but everyone is older, and the music is incredibly loud jazz. I know Jason from Houston is with me.
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Editor B:

Happy equinox (yesterday)
  10:22am
hendrix wolfbat:

Paul Robeson good morning
  10:23am
hendrix wolfbat:

Good morning trouble et al
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23am
coolioiglesias:

@karlward I am here for jazz raves
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23am
joe mulligan:

I'm down with that @karlward. IRL in Greenpoint is halfway there!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am
Zipperhead7:

I'm there for the jazz rave -- after my pending hip replacement.
  10:24am
hendrix wolfbat:

Aren’t Jazz raves the OG raves anyway?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am
unpopularfred:

@karlward - I'm with you.

(could the Minton's Playhouse all-night jam sessions in the '40s be considered jazz raves?)
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sphere:

@ hendrix wolfbat - that's what I was thinking. Congo Square, amirite?
  10:25am
hendrix wolfbat:

Yeah speakeasys and secret passages
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25am
coolioiglesias:

northern soul parties were def the OG raves. everybody on speed, stomping it out to 45s til the wee hours!
  10:28am
cherry1998:

cool set. I love 24 carat black!
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mb:

Morning morning Trouble and commeteers
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Jason from Houston:

With you, karlward. All in.
  10:36am
grestceril:

that bobby oroza hit the spot
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sphere:

The Nylons do a great version of Silhouette.
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HyperDose:

@Handy That's a great idea. I can hang banners and put up signs for all of Bayonne to see!
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Marco Esquandolas:

Jersey is a long way from home for me. But, for a Jazz Rave . . .I'm in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39am
Woo:

Last week I saw a payphone outside a supermaket. I was so happy to see they still exist.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39am
GeorgeSimian:

Love the show today! Thanks Trouble!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 10:39am
YETI BOB:

Woo: Take a picture and send it to 2600 magazine
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40am
GeorgeSimian:

This song is so 80's
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am
Woo:

Too late Yeti Bob. That was at a Stop & Shop in Providence and now I'm back in Chicagoland. Maybe my cousin can do it for me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am
karlward:

So many great Santigold songs, but this might be the very best
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am
Trouble:

gracias@georgesimian
  10:42am
marit:

sadness is in me end makes me fart
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:42am
Jason from Houston:

*+:꒰◍• ᴗ •◍꒱:+*
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:42am
TonyR:

Last 10 minutes have been HOT! TY!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:43am
Jason from Houston:

SO GREAT
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TDK60:

There are/were some beautiful wooden phone booths in the NY public library. But a staffer told me they were to be removed. Oh well.
  10:44am
morphe':

Woo/Yeti - a standing payphone but does it work?
TDK - The Ear Inn on far west Spring street still has a wooden booth ...
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oshiwoshi:

ooh the Funky Hamburgers!
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TDK60:

Morphe, back in town? I may be going by 6&B this weekend. Could stop by your area first...
  10:46am
marit:

jum jum
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46am
Peter in SEA:

Amy Sillman's gone figurative? Bon jour Trouble and listeners; Happy Autumn! Now, this beat's got me rockin'!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am
karlward:

That left hand technique on the snare is flawless.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am
Peter in SEA:

now I gotta look up poets of rhythm!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 10:48am
YETI BOB:

morphe': You ever see the payphone pix in 2600? They don't have to be in working condition.
  10:48am
JT:

sample waiting to happen
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am
Stanley:

This fondle rock makes me want to...rock.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am
Woo:

morphe', I can't verify if the phone worked. I should have at least stuck my finger in the coin return. Loved finding coins in pay phones.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49am
Trouble:

bonjour @peter: she has a gorgeous new book out, it'a all flowers!!! summer, it's called, available through barbara gladstone gallery
  10:49am
bradford:

This set is absolutely on point, Trouble!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49am
Peter in SEA:

www.npr.org...
Poets of Rhythm!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Here I'm standing at your door
Like so many times before
Since the time you let me in
I knew that I'd be here again
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jt:

title "Fondle Rock" has a kind of wrong sound to it..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:50am
Zipperhead7:

Yes, these Poets are so funky it hurts! But in a good way. Great segue into Labelle. Sarah Dash!
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Troymo:

I worked in a music store 87-93. Saw the rise of cassette singles and CD’s replacing vinyl. Most of my fellow workers were College students. They didn’t pay a living wage but gave us 30% off our music purchases. I spent on average around 1/8 of every paycheck on tunes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51am
PaulRobeson1920:

Could be right
May be wrong
Pretty soon
Be long gone
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Stanley:

Goodbye Sarah Dash RIP
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jt:

My first ever French lesson... AM radio
  10:52am
JT:

from the back of a vw beetle i lacked the knowledge but liked it all the same
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:56am
drr:

I worked in a record store in Tennessee in 1986. The things I remember: every day someone would ask when the new Doug E. Fresh was coming out. (As far as I know, it never did.) Also, the pre-release hype of Lionel Richie's "Dancing On the Ceiling" was so big we ordered a lot. It sold great the first day but hardly at all after that.
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jt:

Ha JT ! You again! Ours was a dark green '64 Mustang convertible.. A.M. radio had potential then.Yeah, same here, mostly regulated to the backseat. Or the transmission between the bucket seats, if my brother and two sisters where occupying the rear seat, it was the family car our only car, that's how we did then.
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oshiwoshi:

@Troymo
Lucky! I wasn't allowed to buy any of the 'good' records
But I did come away with some stonking mixtapes...
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sphere:

After I stopped being a Chicago fan, I tried to sell my collection at Yesterday & Today, which is legendary for their association with Discord. They refused to buy any of them so I threw all my Chicago records away.
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sphere:

*Dischord (dumb autocorrect)
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oshiwoshi:

anyone here frequent Camden Lock in the 80's?
  10:59am
JT:

totally coincidental, that post after yours @jt! nice
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Stanley:

oshi - I use to deal with the bootleg live tapes guy back then. He had a stall in the street.
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sphere:

Vinyl Ink in Silver Spring, MD was a much friendlier store and they were open to different sounds. They bought an ad on the back of one of my zines, too. Sad to say that they and Y&T are both closed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03am
Stanley:

Aw and Dingwalls, yes, got rat-arsed in that joint many-a-time
  11:03am
unclejane:

@karlward yes! I just tuned in so in don't know what song brought forth this idea, but I LOVE it. I'll come from central PA.
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oshiwoshi:

@Stanley YES!
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Rich in Washington:

It was wonderful hearing Lady Marmalade. I was driving to work and cranked it all the way up. It's just the antidote for this sleepy thursday morning. Thanks for that!
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Troymo:

@oshiwoshi still remember the feeling of getting a new mixtape! I used to spend hours making them & had a great time creating the art for them.
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Stanley:

oshi - just the other day, I tried to remember the bands I saw there but, honestly could hardly name any. The group I went with were more interested in the drinks.
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Pale Son:

HB, JC!
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βrian:

Here you go, Trouble: ¢
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Troymo:

@drr I think we had a Lionel Richie cardboard cutout at our store. Fun times.
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YETI BOB:

In Your Ear! I shopped there when I lived in Providence around 1986/87. Is that when you were working there, Trouble?
  11:08am
Paul in the OC:

In Your Ear? Spent a LOT of time in there in my early 20s, always a good selection & better prices than NYC!
  11:09am
Brenna:

I also loved In Your Ear, Thayer street in the late 90's. Would take the bus downtown after school just to look through the records there :) <3
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Trouble:

yes@ yeti bob, i did work at in your ear providence then
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YETI BOB:

You probably sold me some records back in the day, Trouble!
  11:10am
Brenna:

And a sandwich from Geoff's afterwards
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Rich in Washington:

When I was a teenager, my brother & I would make this semi-regular pilgrimage to our closest Tower Records (like an hour away) and we learned if a record had this scrawled "RECOMMENDED!" by one particular clerk, we had to buy it on the spot.
Decades later, I recently discovered that that clerk is one of my fellow DJs at the station I do a show it.
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YETI BOB:

Thanks Brenna, now I want a sandwich!
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PaulRobeson1920:

“Hollywood is everywhere, now don'tcha know”
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Handy Haversack:

Oh wow, would dive into a sandwich from Geoff's right now so hard!
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sphere:

Finding good records at Tower Records was definitely an art. The first time I saw Labradford in the stacks, someone had written "Uneasy listening music" on the card. Of course I bought their first CD sight unseen.
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TDK60:

When I worked a record store, Soul II Soul was a big album. I asked every customer, "Do you know they're British?" Nobody did, and nobody cared either. Typical US insularity.
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YETI BOB:

TDK60: You actually can't beat the British Isles for insularity.
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Rich in Washington:

Not all Towers were created equal. The one nearer me in town proper had a slightly lackluster selection compared to the one further away but also had all the in-store signing events.
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Pete:

This organ music is so lovely
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jt:

Got me thinking: the foundation of my record collecting began at Mystery Train near Harvard, where students created a regular turnover of good records. Just looking at "Our Nations Savings Grace" w/ a $3.50 price tag on it (!) same w/ Mission of Burma and a Wanda Landowska on Piano, for $1. I still play these records today.
  11:19am
E:

Whenever I pass through Providence I... failed to know In Your Ear was there, because it appears to be on the outskirts. Guess I need to detour on my way up towards Fall River?
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oshiwoshi:

TDK60: JazzyB was a frequent customer at the shops I worked at - we would watch in awe as he picked hidden gems from the £2 racks
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YETI BOB:

E: Looks like the Providence store moved to Warren RI. But they still have an outlet on Comm Ave in Boston (where I also spent some of my formative years) iye.com
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Pete:

@E I Was just in Providence RI this past weekend, found a great record store called Analogue Underground in Federal Hill
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JT:

my early tween/teen musical taste (11-13) was in part curated by the manager of my local indie store as a counterpoint to the print music criticism i devoured at the time. he opened up my world beyond commercial radio and was in no way mawkish or lacking so-called life skills. i’d get side-eye once in a while for my selections, but that was just part of the experience.
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TDK60:

Good record shops in the '70s had import bins. Back then, some Euro/Asian LPs could only be found that way. More pricey but..
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Trouble:

in your ear is now larger than ever and in warren ri, about 12 minutes east of providence, so yes @ on the way to fall river. IYE is now by the water in warren: huge space and goegeous waterfront spot.
  11:21am
morphe':

TDK/ALL:
Sunday(26th)
Green Oasis Community Garden 370East 8th St, NYC
TieDying Workshop 1-4
(flag fold shibori process indigo)
and
Music
4-7+
1-4 pm Flag Fold Shibori workshop (Brigitte)
As part of City Artist Corps, Brigitte will make a large piece with friends, using the flag fold shibori process indigo. All welcome to try this process and use the indigo vat. Bring old pillow cases or sheets, or any cotton fabric,tshirts you would like to dye. Will provide gloves and some t-shirts.

4 pm VC Victor, Carmine and friends concert (LUNGS)
5 pm Fiddler and the Crossroad concert (LUNGS)
6 pm Paul Sachs concert (LUNGS)
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E:

Nice well, now I've got a few places to check out!
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TDK60:

How about that, oshiwoshi?
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YETI BOB:

I'm currently pinned under a very warm and content cat. I have "things to do" but I really don't want to move him!
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sphere:

I remember going to Yesterday & Today and asking them for "something good." The store guy gave me Husker Du's Metal Circus, for which I am forever grateful.
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Peter in SEA:

@yeti: we say PBK: Pinned by a Kitten! Enjoy!
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PaulRobeson1920:

I recently purchased @Mr.Cheepo’s record store, all of The Fug’s albums they had & the guy working said “wow, i’m surprised these are still here”
  11:25am
JT:

it goes without saying that this record store-like experience of “curated discovery" is what makes wfmu so special and essential
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YETI BOB:

PRMCMXX: Different store, but you just caused me to have a flashback to "Cheapo Records" in Central Square, Cambridge. Man I am having some strong record-store memories today. All the hours and dollars I've spent at record stores over the last 4 decades. No regrets!
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PaulRobeson1920:

: )
  11:27am
morphe':

Free PattiSmith and more Sat 2pm
Elizabeth St Garden
(Spring/Prince)
"Free" but there may be a suggested donation/sliding scale
https://www.jambase.com/show/patti-smith-elizabeth-street-garden-20210925
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TDK60:

Morphe - sounds like fun, will try to stop by Sunday.
  11:28am
E:

If we're giving credit to cheery record store clerks and their recos, I'll always shout out one of the owners of Other Music, who was the opposite of their specific reputation for snobbiness, and enthusiastically helped me discover Henry's Dress many many years ago among other things.
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coolioiglesias:

@YETI Garbage Man played a track released on Twisted Village yesterday, instant flashback to their store in Harvard sq, rest its soul
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YETI BOB:

@coolio: I had to look up Twisted Village. That was a bit after my time in Boston/Cambridge (late 80s/early 90s). Looks like it was pretty cool though!
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sphere:

Twisted Village was also a label and a very influential one at that.
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Paul in the OC:

Providence was good for record stores during the 80s-90s, probably still good, which is funny since Ian Faith says it’s not a big College town. RoundAgain was also good and then there was teh legendary Luke’s in Pawtucket, now gone. Got a lot of open reel tapes & some Fillmore West posters from Luke for not insane money back in the day. I will echo the sentiment concerning the curated collection & undoubtedly I bought a few items from you, Trouble!
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Mr_Skynet:

Amazing show today like usual!
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Pale Son:

Women don't have as much disposable income as men. Could be part of the reason, anyway?
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Mike W:

I miss Twisted Village and have bought LOTS of records from Wayne over the years. He’s my psych-rock north star (still!).
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HeidiPat:

Trouble, have you been to In Your Ear's new space on the water in Warren, RI? So beautiful! As a lady record shopper I agree that it's often a dudefest but I'm not sure why.
  11:37am
morphe':

Saw the inversion version of the unhappy guy waiting for his partner outside a woman's clothing store -
there was an unhappy woman waiting for her partner in front of a Comix store in Madrid... She and I had a laugh about it..
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Mike W:

It’s a dudefest because men are used to taking up too much space, and find social contact with other men who are taking up too much space to be hugely reinforcing.
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TDK60:

Women earn 82.3% of what men do. (US)
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Yes:

this is a pretty one
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YETI BOB:

HeidiPat: Scroll up to @11:21 - she says it's a "huge space and goegeous waterfront spot"
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Trouble:

yes@heidi! i have, it's alovely space and tons of great records
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Pale Son:

@TDK60 and then are required to spend a lot of that on beautifying themselves.
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drr:

A friend commented on the Other Music documentary film: "It really made me nostalgic for the days when I would walk past Other Music on the way to Tower Records."
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Vivian:

I would go solo when record shopping. No one to hurry me along or get bored. But I will say certain record stores here in Atlanta do have snooty staff * cough wax and facts* cough.
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YETI BOB:

drr: That seems backwards! Why pass up Other Music?
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Mike W:

And I think so many of the experiences that lead up to being an avid record-buyer and record-store-goer are things that young men and boys get celebrated for, while young women and girls get lightly (or not so) excluded for. A little like the old dynamic of, toy trucks are for him while dolls are for her?
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sphere:

Part of the Dudefest Dilemma is a self-perpetuating feeling that records are for guys. Girlfriends I have had don't even try to get into the music, possibly because of the testosterone-laden atmosphere.
  11:41am
JT:

yeah the dudefest/neck beard/mansplain world of the music in general has sucked for too long
  11:41am
E:

Amanda Petrusich wrote a book called Do Not Sell At Any Price that dives on the collecting psychology. I recommend it to everyone!!! She touches on the gender gap a little but I don't want to misquote her. Read that book though! Resonated with me even if I'm not at the level that the 78 collectors she profiles are at. Nobody else is at that level.
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Pale Son:

Musical instrument stores are only worse, unfortunately.
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drr:

@YETI BOB: snobby place? Judgemental?
  11:42am
morphe':

DJ Duane Train worked at(managed?) other music..
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YETI BOB:

drr: they were always nice to me (and I was just a kid)
  11:42am
E:

It wasn't though? That was a cartoonish reputation OM didn't earn. Mostly people were intimidated by it and felt threatened.
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Mr_Skynet:

I have a feeling the dude to dudette ratio in the chat is dude heavy
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oshiwoshi:

funny that
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TDK60:

I would always be up and cheerful (not overly) with Other Music staff. It was a job you know. Sometimes my good mood would help a bit, even if I was buying something not cool enough. Heh.
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sphere:

I can't put my finger on specific stores, but some record stores are friendly to certain groups of people and arrogant assholes to outsiders. So some people talk about how friendly X Record Store is while others say the exact opposite.
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drr:

Everyones mileage varies. Said friend is a female music journalist now, if that shines any light.
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John L:

When I owned a record store I made sure I tried my best to avoid most of the record store clerk tropes, though I did play a lot of Yo La Tengo and Big Star, and I'd like to think I was successful. I greeted everyone who walked in the door, said I could assist them if they needed it and mostly stayed out of their way. I would overhear some ridiculous conversations, with the guy going out of his way to pour out every piece of arcane knowledge to the woman he was with. I would keep an eye on what people seemed interested in and then try and play music that might connect with them. As far as Other Music goes, I never got the snob vibe.
  11:46am
E:

Poptimism flipped the "cool" meter upside down, I doubt anyone can really feel judged anymore by hip record clerks, unless you're buying Buckcherry or Imagine Dragons LPs I suppose...
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YETI BOB:

Mrs Yeti was not into records when we met (20 years ago), she just listened to CDs and ITunes. But she's gotten into collecting records too, she likes to pick up vintage jazz LPs (Blue Note/Impulse). So we often go record shopping together. It's a fun thing to do when you are in a new city - a coffeeshop, a record store and a brewpub and my Saturday is complete.
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Juli:

I had to sell some of my records :(

But I am getting turntables next
  11:48am
E:

When I managed a record store I would have fun playing all the cool stuff that had been banished to the dollar bin, just to prove to people that market value was not a reliable measurement for quality
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Mike W:

Amanda P’s book is really good.

Duane did work at Other Music and was always such a good presence there. Scott Mou too. These are people who converse comfortably with anyone interested in any types of music. They also had many employees who were less comfortable in conversation, on music or perhaps any subject, and when someone is shopping for music they’re often, in small ways, looking for some affirmation (perhaps since there are so many choices). Without a friendly, garrulous person helping someone pick a record or ring them up, that affirmation may seem absent. So maybe the shopper buys the record in their hand but comes away feeling like they didn’t earn the approval (of a dude at the store) for their purchase, and they find the overall experience slightly aversive, and don’t go back as frequently.

Other Music in no way had a monopoly on diffident record-store employees, but since it was clearly seen (and self-appointed really) as Manhattan Indie Record Store No. 1, examples of weird vibes from employees there might have stuck out more.

So many great records bought there and at the Tower across the street.
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TDK60:

I get testy with pushy record hunters. They elbow in right as you try to start a row. This happens at the WFMU record fair too. They're usually men.
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morphe':

Sadly for some musicians ... I stopped buying records in 198? when I discovered WFMU .. I did fund folks through many gigs...The last record I bought 1986? was THE NIHILIST SPASM BAND at the NEW MUSIC EXCHANGE ...
Had heard them on Tony Coulter's WKCR show...
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drr:

I definitely don't buy a lot of stuff I want at my local record store because I don't want the staff to know.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I don't know if it fits the WFMU business model, but I wonder if a kind of listener record exchange web page or online document would be a good idea.
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drr:

@TDK60: yeah, record elbow is a thing
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John L:

I hated RSD for the record elbow thing. You could tell when someone was just looking for a record for themselves or to flip. That is one thing I don't miss.
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Mike W:

@TDK I used to get accosted early in the morning before loading in to sell at the Record Fair, always guys, always descending upon me literally right on the sidewalk outside my parked car, slobbering over my boxes. “Got any psych in there?? Got any indie-label funk fom the ’70s???” Horrible vibes.
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JT:

record elbow sucks. wtf. will never understand.
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Bimbus Bambus:

The number 2 rule of being a record hunter is keep moving and get out of the way. Number 1 is deodorant.
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ChukAmok:

Every day is Record Store Day.
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drr:

@ChukAmok: Every day except Record Store Day.
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ChukAmok:

@drr exactly
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morphe':

Record Fair: I always worked the 6am -9am security shift to ensure the dealers did not steal from each other and I left as soon as the buyers came in ...
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ChukAmok:

Arriving late. What is "record elbow"? Is it like manspreading but with arms digging into bins?
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Trouble:

thanks for listening in today!
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John L:

Disclosure: Trouble came in to my store and I'd like to think she had a pleasant experience. It was in New Paltz, NY.
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sphere:

Thanks Trouble.
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TDK60:

My most embarrassing day as store clerk. A drummer from Love shows up, asks if we had Love in stock. None! (I wasn't the owner!) He smiled when I said "But I have several LPs at home."
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Jason from Houston:

Please come back next week, Trouble.
  11:54am
morphe':

Thanks Trouble and all ..
Another day at/in the WFMU on-line University..
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Paul in the OC:

LIvely discussion re music stores & collecting, topics the wife and I talk about on long trips for a LONG time. The psychology of collecting is yet another good PhD thesis. I recall the young male collector instinct to be a replacement for human contact and certainly opposite sex contact, so the average record dude did end up fairly antisocial. A young woman who drops into this atmos is likely to find it pretty off putting, which is not to say that I have not met plenty of lady record collectors, and they are typically pretty socialized, so there’s a distinction for ya. Meanwhile, here’s a lady collector dropping a great playlist so fooey on all that testosterone collector stuff!
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Birdman:

Thank you Trouble
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Peter in SEA:

Thanks for a great show, Trouble; hope the rest of the week is easy.
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Trouble! I missed the middle hour. Stupid work! But the hours I heard were great.

Later on, Troubled Ones. Add to the gig list! Link in my profile!
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Mike W:

Another frequent experience: Behind the counter at this (Sound Fix) or that (Kim’s on First Ave) record store, someone approaches tentatively with maybe a Grizzly Bear record, or Arcade Fire, and gingerly slides it across the counter to be rung up, possibly even saying, “This is a little embarrassing but...”

“My friend,” I tried to always say. “We’re the ones who stocked this record! For you to buy. Ask me anything about any record in the shop, but please don’t feel weird for buying something we’re selling. I don’t.” (Though sometimes I did, a little.)
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JT:

thanks trouble!
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Vivian:

@ Mike W I bet! Similar to people who check out yard sales on a weekly basis. I'll never forget someone stopping in my yard an hour before the start time while I was setting up, asking if they could check out my stuff.
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oshiwoshi:

Soaring like a hawk for 3 hours - thanks Trouble!
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E:

record elbow is a territorial display of dominance, where a male specimen will attempt to appear larger in size in order to claim rights to the carcass in which they feed as scavengers, in this case what is referred to as a "bin"
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PaulRobeson1920:

Yea! Thank
You Trouble!!! & peace&Love ya’ll
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Trouble. I'll bet record elbow syndrome is correlated to airline seat elbow.
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Mike W:

Bimbus B putting the bow on the whole conversation
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oshiwoshi:

Life's too short to listen to the same record twice...
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YETI BOB:

I don't know what to do to counter the fact that I am part of the male majority, except for to try to be respectful and not pushy and never do things like "record elbow".
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E:

@Paul in the OC check out the Amanda Petrusich book!
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YETI BOB:

Seriously, I shower, use deodorant, try not to take up too much space, etc.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Roll with that innate goodness @Yeti
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TDK60:

Merci DJ T!
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βrian:

David D is waiting for you in Leipzig:

wfmu.org...
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ChukAmok:

The cleanest and most respectful Yeti anywhere. The rarest of the rare.
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Mike W:

I personally am in quite a rut, it feels like I listen to the same 800 records over and over
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Bimbus Bambus:

And on behalf of every record store owner and customer, flip the records so they're leaning back on the shelves when you're done looking!
  11:59am
E:

is that all
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drr:

My expectations for record stores are low, so when I was offered a cup of cold water on a hot day at Domino Sound Record Shack in New Orleans it stuck out in my mind as one of the politest, kindest gestures I had ever experienced.
  11:59am
morphe':

ps Kenny G did a video about male butt crack at the record fairs -
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Mike W:

@Vivian: “I hope you do! Starting in an hour.”
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YETI BOB:

Thanks for the great show Trouble, and thanks everyone for the fun conversation. The cat is still on my lap!
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ChukAmok:

Domino Sound!
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Zipperhead7:

Have a great week, everybody! I always enjoy the music, messages and fellowship on "This Is the Modern World."
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listener james from westwood:

Thanks, Trouble!
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Pale Son:

Thanks, Trouble, great show!
  12:00pm
P-90:

Thanks! @Trouble
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radioronan:

Thanks Trouble ! So much on the board to comment on if I didn't have to work. I and most my friends worked in/ran stores (also record fairs) in Boston San Francisco and NYC for years. It's all true!
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