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January 30, 2019: Help Andy and Little Matty Warwick Understand the Monty Hall Problem
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:03pm
dale:
little matty is a perfect foil for andy. or a perfect moil. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:07pm
dale:
ice cold sewage water is the worst. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:07pm
Sam:
Is this just Andy with a ventriloquist dummy that giggles all the time? | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:07pm
gw:
Cue laugh track . | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:09pm
dale:
matt will be s.m. some day. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:12pm
Fred:
MAtt, your title should be "The Sun Also Rises" | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:12pm
ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:
What happened to Ken's voice? |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:13pm
dale:
i have TWO copies of Prince: Alter Ego, Edition# 1 - and new they go for about $200 (ASKING price). kyle also sadi i have a joey buttafucco and amy fisher comic that i forgot i had. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:14pm
dale:
this could be a new shut up weirdo. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:14pm
noel:
Where is Ken? | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:15pm
noel:
Sam you're so right | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:16pm
dale:
at a broadway show noel. |
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![]() FYI 536-9368 = KEN-WFMU |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:17pm
JakeGould:
This Matt and Andy show is really good. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:17pm
Sam:
If Matt doesn’t stop giggling I’m declaring this a bad show | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:17pm
herb.nyc:
eek, an abortion joke. uh, not funny. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:18pm
dale:
design office i worked at once was an abortion clinic beforehand - there was holy water hidden in the air conditioner cases. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:20pm
gw:
Screw all of you habitual commenters . Sick of you all . | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:20pm
herb.nyc:
yes, it's a math problem. Marilyn Vos Savant talked about it in a column. I think she had it right as well. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:20pm
igor:
This sounds like people inside piano on Lumpy Gravy | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:20pm
JakeGould:
Learn at MontyHallProblem dot com… www.montyhallproblem.com |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:20pm
dale:
fire sprinkler pipes froze. water expands when it freezes. the pipe doesn't. something gives and it's usually the pipe. ice thaws. water escapes. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:21pm
dale:
severe a.d.d. is what this station runs on. |
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![]() www.straightdope.com... |
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![]() In the Monty Hall problem if you are allowed to choose two of three doors your chance of winning is 2/3. If you know which of the three doors will not win and allowed to pick one your chance of winning is 1/2. The paradox comes from people conflating the second scenario with the first. |
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![]() @Sam, thank you. |
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![]() yeah this is way over my head |
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![]() A spooforknife!? |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:23pm
ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:
There is a Runcible Spoon coffee shop in Nyack, NY, about half hour drive north of Jersey City. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:24pm
Aaron in Minneapolis:
The Monty Hall problem is theres water damage in Monty Hall |
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![]() The scenario given is that you choose one door that has a 1/3 chance, then you know which of the other two doors has no chance. So by picking one of the other two doors (specifically the one that isn't guaranteed to lose) you have a 2/3 chance of winning. |
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![]() @aaron correct |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:25pm
herb.nyc:
Bad Show was mentioned! I have an idea to re-start it. I mentioned it to ken but he wasn't keen on it. but since he's not here... |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:26pm
dale:
but i WANT the door with jay in a diaper in a giant crib! |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:28pm
herb.nyc:
another way to visualize it - there are TEN doors. you pick one and monty opens 5or6 of them. do you switch? YES! |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:28pm
herb.nyc:
that was SYNCHRONOUS, the phone call |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:29pm
dale:
is statistics math or philosophy? |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:29pm
JakeGould:
Shut the eff up. This makes no sense. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:29pm
Patty D:
I am so lost right now. | |
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![]() More info: en.wikipedia.org... |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:30pm
dale:
herb.nyc - why? |
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![]() i just texted my statistician ex boyfriend to explain it to me |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:32pm
herb.nyc:
"jerry, it moved!" |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:32pm
noel:
The Race to The Bottom WINNER of BAD SHOWS | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:33pm
dale:
so this is all based on the thinking of the genious from parade magazine. parade and genius do not jibe together. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:33pm
herb.nyc:
dale, the caller is right, and Andy is slowly getting it (there's hope for humanity). you can even write out a table of all the outcomes, and it's probably on the website that jakegould gave us. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:35pm
mzzm:
sounds so typical this money centric bold dude is this stupid & ignorant... | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:35pm
Fredericks:
First pick = 33% chance, second = 50% chance. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:36pm
JakeGould:
110% |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:37pm
mzzm:
no, dis is high school.. | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:37pm
herb.nyc:
there's also the BIRTHDAY problem. if you have 24 (was it fewer?) people together there is a 50/50 chance that 2 people share a birthday. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:38pm
Chauncey:
"Dear Pig, are you willing to sell for one shilling Your ring?" Said the Piggy, "I will." So they took it away, and were married next day by the turkey who lives on the hill. They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible spoon; And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, They danced by the light of the moon, The moon, They danced by the light of the moon | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:39pm
JakeGould:
This is really a good show. This should be a thing. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:39pm
mzzm:
it's so painful listening this. good bye | |
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![]() triangulate and then use door zero |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:40pm
noel:
"For the Love of Crack" end this!!!! | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:40pm
Sam:
These people all have it backwards. You should always stick with your first guess. Maybe I’ll have to call in and explain it. | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:41pm
tak:
i'm crying | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:41pm
Karen:
It’s an example of how probability and logic are not always logical to the human brain. | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:41pm
tak:
this is high school maths so i'm hoping you reach a conclusion soon | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:41pm
JakeGould:
If two of the three little pigs worked together to share resources, they could have built a home strong enough to withstand a bigoted wolf from indiscriminately blowing their house down. |
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![]() A LITERAL CHILD IS GOING TO EXPLAIN IT |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:42pm
dale:
can we discuss the burt convy conundrum? |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:42pm
Smokestack:
Well said @Karen :) |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:42pm
Karen:
I know it and understand it, but I still have trouble really believing or feeling it. | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:42pm
noel:
Make him cry Andy!!! | |
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![]() Put the same number on all three doors!!!! |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:43pm
JakeGould:
@Sam: Yeah! Stick to your first choice! Don’t show weakness! BE A MAN!!! |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:43pm
herb.nyc:
can Beth tell us how much Andy makes? |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:43pm
noel:
and we end with Bobby Goldsboro | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:44pm
dale:
if this was the lady or the tiger would you still change your choice? |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:45pm
JakeGould:
And the act’s name is… “The Aristocrats!” |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:46pm
ButtWeenies:
Put an end to this misery do a Monty Hall paradox with the T-shirt as a prize. | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:46pm
JakeGould:
Make it rain, Andy! Make it rain!!! |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:47pm
noel:
"Judge not, lest you, be Judged" | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:49pm
Karen:
@ButtW just make it a Monty Hall Paradox/Monty Hall Venue t-shirt for marathon. | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:49pm
Sam:
Ok there are three possible scenarios where the car could be. Let’s say you pick 1 each time. If it’s behind 1, you’re better off sticking with your first guess. If it’s behind 2, they’ll say It’s Not behind 3, and you’d be better off changing. If it’s behind 3, they’ll say It’s not behind 2, and you’re still better off changing. So that’s 2 out of 3 scenarios where you should change your guess, and only 1 where you shouldn’t. | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:50pm
ButtWeenies:
Why is the line always busy | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:50pm
Karen:
@Sam YES! Exactly! | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:50pm
Smokestack:
If that lottery ticket example didn't help Andy, nothing will. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:50pm
ButtWeenies:
This went off the rails they don’t want to inderstand | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:51pm
Karen:
I’m pretty sure that my mind is sketching up that t-shirt mash up for marathon right now. | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:52pm
ButtWeenies:
They didn’t have to be lottery tickets it could just be blank pieces of paper. Throw in lottery numbers and he thinks people picked the numbers it blows his mind. | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:52pm
leylou:
by the time the math teacher finished explaining it, I was laughing out loud from surprise :D , I have just begun revisiting math these last few days and I got the MH problem but at the same time I could completely understand your bewilderment at it, since that's how I've been feeling since I was exposed to Probability problems in high school.. a decade ago! *not the first time since I started listening to SSD last year, but this one was reeeeally a big genuine synchronous one! (so I guess thank you SO much guys, especially if this ends up putting me back on the track of Mathematics for good in my career & life now :))) ) |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:52pm
Karen:
@ButtW, but they do want the free t-shirt designs... ;P | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:52pm
ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:
Knowledge is NOT power. |
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![]() It's quite elementary for a guy. Ask your wife if you should switch or not and dutifully follow her advice. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:53pm
Karen:
@kfhp especially if she makes more than you | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:53pm
ButtWeenies:
It would be a great design I should get a free one | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:54pm
JakeGould:
@leylou: OMFG! If Andy and Matt revived your career that would be amazing and statistically unpredictable. Take that Nate Silver! |
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![]() "if you always choose to open another door then if the first door you choose was the wrong door then you will win so there are two chances that a free to win if you always choose to open the remaining door"- a statistician |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:54pm
noel:
After this show I'm going out to find one of those "Mobile Math Labs" | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:55pm
ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:
Is this all an analogy as to decide whether or not Ken should be on the show with these two? |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:55pm
kudubundu:
It's almost midnight in the UK. You guys have blown my mind. It's far too late for Maths! | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:55pm
herb.nyc:
"mobile math labs"? there exists a "Grammar Table", started by Ellen Jovin. I learned about it 3 weeks ago. |
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![]() The line is always busy because we're only working with two lines instead of four right now, and judging by the way the calls have been going, even if we HAD four, the lines would be on fire tonight |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:56pm
JakeGould:
So if Nick had 4 phones, and three callers called in… |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:56pm
leylou:
@JakeGould : WFMU has been doing wonder for my brain since I started listening so ... nothing seems impossible! :D :D |
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![]() omg it's not about the one choice! it's about multiple choices. long term goals |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:57pm
Smokestack:
I can't believe they made an hour out of this |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:57pm
ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:
Can you re-choose your own door? |
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![]() The thing is that IF you are allowed to choose 2 doors your chance of winning is 2/3. Always. Switching doors is the equivalent of that. |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:58pm
dale:
temps has gone from high 20s to 4 in a matter of hours - what are the chances i'll freeze my b*lls off tonight? 1 in 2 or 1 in 3? |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:58pm
JakeGould:
@ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ: That’s like a Yankee Swap. |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:58pm
noel:
Thank god for THC Wax it makes this whole hour I lost important. | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:58pm
tw2sheds:
Maria Vos Savant would be glad to explain it to you... | |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:58pm
Karen:
It changes your probability, it doesn’t change what’s actually behind each door. That’s where logic and human minds get confused. | |
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![]() this was an excellent show, congrats |
Wed. 1/30/19 6:58pm
kudubundu:
Time for bed. I know which door I am going through! | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 6:58pm
herb.nyc:
passed the Internet audition, hilarious! |
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![]() Superman would use his X-ray vision and choose the right one every time. |
Wed. 1/30/19 7:00pm
Sam:
Your first guess is 2/3 chance of being wrong. So 2/3 of the time you should change it, in general. | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 7:02pm
leylou:
there you go! Karen explained what was missing in the callers' explanations |
Wed. 1/30/19 7:02pm
Sam:
Would you like to stick with this horrible show, or take a chance on something, anything, else? | |
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Wed. 1/30/19 7:19pm
Lawrence:
I was a late caller and said what Karen said: the elimination of one door changes your probability but does not effect what is behind either of the two remaining doors. |
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