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Options December 23, 2017: The Emperor's Magic

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Artist Track Album Label Year Comments Approx. start time
Miyoko Hirayama 平山美代子  Kotaishi sama oumare natta 皇太子さまお生まれなった (Crown Prince was born)   Options   Victor  1934    0:00:00 ()
Tenno 天皇  Mizu 水   Options Noise  Alchemy  2005  Original 1980  0:01:13 ()
Music Section, Imperial Household Agency (Kunaisho Shikiburyo Gagakuka/宮内庁式部寮雅楽課)  Taishikicho Choshi Bongen 太食調調子・品玄   Options 日本音楽集 (Japan: Gagaku - Buddhist Chant - 1941)  World Arbiter   2008    0:09:04 ()
The Kyoto Nohgaku Kai (京都能楽会)  Makiginu - Kagura (巻絹 - 神楽)   Options Japanese Noh Music (日本の伝統音楽:能楽)  Lyrichord      0:12:15 ()
Sarah Peebles  Resinous Fold 2 + 4 + 3   Options Delicate Paths - Music For Shô たおやかな歩み  Unsounds  2014    0:18:32 ()
John Bell  Collapse & Nanoclaptocracy   Options Cambridge Supreme Minor and Other Peals  Kendra Steiner Editions  2017    0:26:41 ()
Ross Bolleter   Save What You Can   Options Secret Sandhills and satellites  Emanem  2006    0:29:46 ()
 
Ichiro Fujimura 藤村一郎  Kotaishi-denka goseitan houshuku-ka 皇太子殿下御生誕奉祝歌   Options   Victor  1933    0:42:36 ()
Hiroshi Yuki (Shigeo Kusunoki) 結城浩(楠木繁夫)  Kotaishi-denka goseitan no uta 皇太子殿下御生誕の歌   Options     1933    0:45:42 ()
Kichimaru 吉丸  Hoshuku odori kouta 奉祝踊り小唄   Options   Teichiku  1933    0:48:37 ()
Yokkaichi Doyo Aikoukai 四日市 童謡愛好会  Children’s Song: Ko-taishi sama 童謡 皇太子さま   Options Kodomo no hi doyo-shu 子供の日童謡集        0:51:53 ()
Violent Onsen Geisha 暴力温泉芸者  Destroy The Disabled Persons Welfare Law   Options Garbage Sandwich  Beast 666 Tapes  1992    0:53:50 ()
The Body & Full Of Hell  Farewell, Man   Options Ascending A Mountain Of Heavy Light  Thrill Jockey  2017    0:58:37 ()
Blind Idiot God  Dubbing In The Sinai   Options Undertow  Enemy  1989    1:03:00 ()
Tandaapushi  Part 2   Options Borromean Rings  Jvtlandt  2017    1:06:50 ()
 
Mangetsu Tenkoken 天光軒満月  Shoshu-rei 召集令 (Draft)   Options Sensou no omote to ura 戦争の表と裏  Teichiku  1995    1:34:07 ()
Thuch Savanj  Jivit Rongkroh Proh Songkream (My Life As A Victim Of War)   Options Khmer Rouge Survivors: They Will Kill You, If You Cry  Glitterbeat  2016    1:48:10 ()
Sandcatchers  To Sleeping   Options What We Found Along The Way  Self-Released  2017    1:50:32 ()
Norberto Lobo  Colheres   Options Muxama  Three:four   2016    1:52:03 ()
Anohni  Violent Men   Options Hopelessness  Secretly Canadian  2016    1:53:27 ()
Hiroshi Yoshimura  Water Copy   Options Music for Nine Post Cards  Empire of Signs   2017  Original 1982  1:55:30 ()
Tiziano Popoli, Marco Dalpane  Moving objects slow dance   Options Scorie  Soave  2018  Original 1985  2:01:41 ()
 
Banks Bailey  The Pool part 4   Options The Pool  Unfathomless  2017    2:18:16 ()
Unknown   Octopus Fishing (Lofanga Island)   Options South Pacific Island Music  Nonesuch  1981    2:29:59 ()
Unknown  Geemaanoe (Little Bird Mask); Geeyibo (Mask That Eats Water)   Options Côte-D'Ivoire: Masques Dan        2:31:41 ()
abAna  Alphabet Of Fishes   Options Playing With Words: An Audio Compilation  Gruenrekorder   2010    2:36:00 ()
Colin Stetson  Between Water And Wind   Options All This I Do For Glory  52Hz  2017    2:38:37 ()
Ramón del Riego  Juegos de agua en El Rinconín. Gijón   Options Agua | Costa  Mapa Sonoru  2016    2:44:43 ()
Mary Lattimore  Wawa By The Ocean   Options Collected Pieces  Ghostly International  2017    2:47:27 ()
 
Taco  Naisho no Emperor Magic な・い・しょ・のエンペラーマジック   Options WAKA WAVE: Japanese Post-Punk & Experimental Music from the 80's (Tony Coulter's 2016 Marathon Premium)  WFMU  2016    3:05:57 ()

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 11:36am Scraps:

h’lo h’lo hey
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 11:39am fred:

Good morning Scraps, hope you're well
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 11:40am Scraps:

listening, though mostly lying down listening. cheers
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 11:41am Scraps:

hi fred, hey
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 11:53am listener james from westwood:

Morning, Scraps, fred, and the incoming Mayuko!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:01pm fred:

Good afternoon Mayuko
  Sat. 12/23/17 12:02pm Jesse k:

Morning all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:02pm coelacanth∅:

greetings Mayuko; Mayuklings
  Sat. 12/23/17 12:02pm Barnaby:

hi Mayuko, beautiful start
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:03pm Webhamster Henry:

Ahh Christmas tunes from Mayuko!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:04pm listener james from westwood:

Sounds clear on this end!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:05pm fred:

This Tenno track is fantastic
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:05pm tmoyo:

Hi Mayuko & listeners!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:05pm Mayuko:

Hallos, fred, james, Jesse, coelacanth∅ & Barnaby! And Henry! Thanks for tuning in!
Hope you're doing well, my radio family Scraps!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:06pm coelacanth∅:

i just realised i had not turned off my pre-Mayuko selections. off now, but it did work well together.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:07pm Mayuko:

Welcome, fellow subject of the Japanese Empire, tmoyo san!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:08pm Mayuko:

@fred Tenno is a project of Tori Kudo, from Maher Shalal Hash Baz.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:09pm tmoyo:

Amid the end of the year craziness, i completely forgot today was his birthday until now...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:09pm fred:

Nice! Maher Shalal Hash Baz will be part of next year's Sonic Protest festival
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:11pm rbrt:

"Imperial Household Agency" is a great name lol
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:12pm rbrt:

hope everyone is having a good weekend :D
  Sat. 12/23/17 12:17pm Rickwaukee:

Oooh-ooh, back on the chain gang
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:17pm Mayuko:

Hi rbrt! YOU'RE FISH!!!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:18pm Mayuko:

Hi Rickwaukee! Welcome to the birthday party.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:19pm gloomsday:

hello friends and strangers alike!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:20pm coelacanth∅:

translucent fish?
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:20pm rbrt:

x-rayed fish lol
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:21pm Mayuko:

@coelacanth∅ You're fish too that's as old as the emperor's family tree!!!
  Sat. 12/23/17 12:21pm Rickwaukee:

*toots on a party blower and gets nothing a couple times and then when it finally unrolls it goes straight down instead of out*
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:21pm Mayuko:

Welcome on board, gloomsday! Thanks for tuning in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:22pm Brian in UK:

Hello Mayuko. What side of the road do the Japanese drive on?
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:23pm rbrt:

so today is the birthday of the Japanese Emperor?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:23pm coelacanth∅:

Mayuko, we go way back. i taught the emperor's ancestors how to walk!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:23pm tmoyo:

@Brian, same as in the UK, the left side.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:24pm Mayuko:

@Brian I'm late and question already answered! Thanks for tuning in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:25pm tmoyo:

beautiful track!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:25pm Brian in UK:

@tmoyo thank you.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:26pm rbrt:

www.quora.com...

interesting
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:27pm Mayuko:

@rbrt yup, Dec 23rd. Jesus is not the only one who was born this weekend!!!!!!!!!!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:28pm rbrt:

@Mayuko lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:30pm Brian in UK:

@rbrt interesting. It also implies that most samurai were right handed or dexters. Hence the term dexterous.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:30pm fred:

I remember seeing an amazing performance of a Cage piece on Sho
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:30pm coelacanth∅:

(today's the anniversary of my niece's birth, as well)
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:30pm rbrt:

@brian yeah!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:33pm rbrt:

I really have no idea how Japan's government works, is the emperor just symbolic like queen of england?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:33pm tmoyo:

@rbrt interesting! I didn't know samurai swords were involved.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:34pm tmoyo:

Yes, just a symbol.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:35pm rbrt:

@tmoyo yeah assuming who ever answered this question is right? lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:36pm tmoyo:

Haha, true Mayuko.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:37pm Webhamster Henry:

from Reuters:
He is due to step down on April 30, 2019 after spending much of his nearly three decades on Japan's throne seeking to soothe the wounds of World War Two.
His abdication is the first by a Japanese monarch in about two centuries. He will be succeeded by his heir, 57-year old Crown Prince Naruhito.
Once considered divine, Japan's emperor is defined in the post-war constitution as a "symbol of the state and of the unity of the people", but has no political power.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:38pm rbrt:

"The constitution provides for a parliamentary system of government and guarantees certain fundamental rights. Under its terms, the Emperor of Japan is "the symbol of the State and of the unity of the people" and exercises a purely ceremonial role without the possession of sovereignty."
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:39pm rbrt:

oh thanks Henry!...answering my own questions lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:40pm tmoyo:

I think the emperor gives "permission" on important legislations, and also performs sacred shinto rituals.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:40pm rbrt:

I'm sure he has some kind of political "influence"
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:42pm tmoyo:

Yeah, I think he's quite liberal, but isn't allowed to speak out his personal feelings.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:42pm rbrt:

was there ever an "empress"?, seems like Japane is a very male oriented society though
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:43pm gloomsday:

well this is all very good and fascinating. so glad i tuned in this morning :) just what my saturday was missing.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:45pm rbrt:

oh this is an actual thing "The Imperial Household Agency (宮内庁 Kunai-chō) is an agency of the government of Japan in charge of state matters concerning the Imperial Family"
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:46pm fred:

I think Japan had a few empresses, and they came close to changing the succession law until a male grandson of the current emperor was born
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:46pm tmoyo:

Women can't ascend to the throne. The next emperor only has a daughter so there are some talks of making changes, but it seems unlikely that it will actually happen.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:50pm Doug Schulkind:

Hello! Hooray! Howdy!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:51pm rbrt:

kings, queens, emperors...archaic systems in a modern world
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:51pm Ken From Hyde Park:

With stem cell technology, I wonder if they'd consider cloning the emperor to create male succession?
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:51pm Mayuko:

Suiko was an empress but she's from 6th century, and the actual political leader was more like Shotoku taishi? I spent all my history class sleeping so I don't remember anything.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:54pm rbrt:

??? what is going on in this children's song?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:54pm listener james from westwood:

LOL at whatever is agitating this guy over the "Sing a Song" chorus!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:55pm rbrt:

oh ok wrong track lol! I'm assuming this is Violent Onsen Geisha
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:55pm Mayuko:

Children's innocent singing makes me lose it and this is what needs to happen.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 12:55pm Mayuko:

Doug!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:56pm Webhamster Henry:

More children!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:56pm listener james from westwood:

@Mayuko: One of my earliest proofreading jobs for one of my clients was a college textbook on modern Japanese history. I stayed very awake during it (lots was new to me!), but remembering my time as a college student, I'm likely the person who will end up having read it most closely, aside from the author and the copy editor!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:57pm listener james from westwood:

Jeez, hoping this guy doesn't go after the Americans with Disabilities Act next!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:57pm coelacanth∅:

i can totally relate to this guy
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:57pm fred:

@Mayuko: maybe you could play Junko when that happens. She kinda sounds like a child at times, yet also like that Violent Onsen Geisha guy
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 12:58pm coelacanth∅:

haha just saw what he's going on about! Fuck him then!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 12:58pm rbrt:

I need to get this recording and blast it all week lol
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 1:00pm rbrt:

is Mayuko just smashing things to pieces as we speak
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:01pm northguineahills:

The Body full of Hell, new to me!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 1:02pm rbrt:

hi ngh
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:04pm Mayuko:

I actually thought it hilarious that gloomsday said those Akihito's bday songs from 1933 were "just what my saturday was missing" I appreciate WFMU listenership at times like that!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:04pm Mayuko:

Hey northguineahills!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:06pm listener james from westwood:

Oh, wow, Blind Idiot God, good choice!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:11pm redkayak:

Happy Holidays all :)
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 1:12pm rbrt:

same to you redkayak :D
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:14pm Mayuko:

@james I probably would have enjoyed modern Japanese history more. In my experience, in elementary school and middle school, we always started from ancient times, and then ran out of time at the end of year, so we would do modern times super briefly. Now that I think, maybe teachers didn't know how to deliver that time period without being political?, I don't understand.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:15pm Mayuko:

Hi, redkayak! Glad to have you here!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:16pm northguineahills:

I got to see Hirohito when he made his balcony appearance New Years 1988. I was maybe 150m away, but I could see him (and had binoculars)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:17pm northguineahills:

@Mayuko: So, like American History classes, where they are lucky to get to WWII (and we have much less written history to cover).
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 1:20pm rbrt:

yeah I've had same experience with history in school
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:20pm Mayuko:

@northguineahills haha! that's true we at least have more excuses for not getting there in time.
That's funny you saw him! I've never seen any emperor in person!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:20pm redkayak:

@mayuko @rbrt Thanks :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:26pm northguineahills:

hellos rbrt!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:27pm listener james from westwood:

If personality cults and creepy children's choruses are what you're looking for, Station Mgr Ken has played a bit of North Korean music now and again that combines both. Can't recall the title....
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:29pm listener james from westwood:

@Mayuko: That political aspect of it may be the case. And echoing ngh, my experience was similar—if we started in grammar school with the Pilgrims, we barely made it out of the Depression and into WWII.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:34pm Webhamster Henry:

Saturday is so empty on the Drummer stream! Stick around!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:34pm listener james from westwood:

And I for one dig hearing your perspective in addition to the music, so I'm happy to be here for both!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:35pm fred:

So US keeping the emperor indirectly led to an extra hour of this show? Good move!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:36pm Mayuko:

@fred haha!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:36pm Doug Schulkind:

Extra Play Vertigo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:39pm fred:

It's time for me to clicky-star the whole show, and we're only halfway through
  Sat. 12/23/17 1:40pm Rickwaukee:

After decades have passed, the sins of one's forefathers need to be acknowledged and their true role in history settled - the people / culture who needed their security blanket (pride savers) should have taken to their graves by that point. Thinking about American South as I write this.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:40pm listener james from westwood:

Macarthur: "Old soldiers never die, they just listen longer to GTDR on the weekends."
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:40pm Mayuko:

It's a wife talking about killing herself and children so that her husband has nothing to worry about while he's away to the frontline of the war.
  Sat. 12/23/17 1:43pm Rickwaukee:

So soldier receives word of family's suicide and can go through war with an extra spring in his step - maybe just knit him some warm socks?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:44pm fred:

Was that written in 1995 or an older text recorded that year?
  Sat. 12/23/17 1:45pm Doctorjazz:

Hi all!
  Sat. 12/23/17 1:50pm P-90:

Merry Christmas Mayuko and Mayukologists!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 1:51pm Mayuko:

@fred 1995 is the year the compilation came out - the words must have been written around ww2, assuming from the fact that the guy who made the piece famous died in 1949.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 1:59pm tmoyo:

what a great set!!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:03pm rbrt:

water copy was wonderful
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:08pm fred:

@rbrt: I agree wholeheartedly
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:08pm Rickwaukee:

Was getting a vibe from this - and that vibe turned out to be Laurie Anderson Big Science
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:13pm rbrt:

soave.bandcamp.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:15pm northguineahills:

I know Akihito is considered an ichthyology expert.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:15pm rbrt:

ohhh they're named after him
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:18pm fred:

As long as you don't play Phish, I'm fine with it
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:18pm Rickwaukee:

How many millions of homes at Christmas have been filled with the sounds of a plastic bass fish singing Take Me to the River?
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:20pm Mayuko:

Hi Doctorjazz! Merry Christmas to you too, P-90!

@Rickwaukee @1:40 "security blanket" is a good way of explaining this! I do feel like keeping an emperor was like having that to tuck many Japanese people in. Sounds especially funny if I think about the fact that maternal logic being dominant in the Japanese culture.

I personally prefer the path Germans took - to make a clear break from the past - but I think it's interesting how different people react differently, and some people don't seem to be capable of handling some difficult history.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:21pm Mayuko:

Thanks for posting the link rbrt!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:22pm Mayuko:

@northguineahills yes he's a well-known "ichthyologist"! I saw it in the dictionary but I decided not to use that term cos I had zero confidence in pronouncing that word haha.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:23pm Mayuko:

BTW Is my mic volume too small again?
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:24pm rbrt:

sounded ok to me
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:24pm Mayuko:

Good! thanks.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:25pm rbrt:

you're welcome! :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:27pm northguineahills:

Bonus Mayuko is the best Mayuko (ok, any Mayuko is the best Mayuko!)

Banks Bailey, new to me and clicky starred!
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:27pm Rickwaukee:

@Mayuko Some descendants have a harder time giving up their cultural "pride" than the actual do-bads - they don't have any direct personal actions to feel guilty about, so they shrug and say, No big deal, I'm just keeping MY history alive. When they should be running as fast as they can from it - like the Germans.
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:28pm P-90:

Mic volume was fine in the break
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:29pm rbrt:

I love those field recordings
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:31pm northguineahills:

Oddly enough, it was through MacArthur's initiative that help convince others in the State Dept to convince Truman to exonerate and keep the emperor, as a means of unification and keep the Japanese anti-communist. Considering how utterly destroyed Japan was, and the post-war trauma they endured, I believe it was probably the right move in the short term. Otherwise, MacArthur was a blowhard dick, but hey, even dicks can make the right considered decision.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:31pm northguineahills:

Now I'm hungry for tako.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:31pm fred:

@Rickwaukee: Do you think Germans gave up their cultural pride? I have German bosses, and if they did I didn't notice
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:34pm Mayuko:

Thanks P-90 too!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:35pm rbrt:

I'm more impresssed with the fact that Akihito discovered new fish than the fact he is emperor lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:36pm northguineahills:

me too, rbrt.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:36pm northguineahills:

Time to make some dim sum!
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:36pm Rickwaukee:

@fred Was referring to acceptance of, if not actual pride in, the icky bad behavior of their elders - rather than making a clean break from it. Germans don't even allow swastikas in WWII video games.
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:37pm Mayuko:

@rbrt haha I agree! Being born to be an emperor wasn't his choice and I don't even know if he likes it, whereas we know he LOVES fish.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:37pm fred:

Did he actually discover new fish? Species are often named after people who had nothing to do with the actual discovery
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:38pm rbrt:

@Mayuko yeah!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:38pm rbrt:

oh good point fred hrmmm
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:39pm rbrt:

and he is the emperor....do you think there is some poor scientist somewhere who gave up his fish discovery
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:40pm tmoyo:

yeah, i feel sorry for the royal family.. its like being in captivity.
@fred: like Brian May's meteor or what was it??
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:40pm Rickwaukee:

Emperor's fave movie. https://youtu.be/1Uvt83YWWWY?t=7s
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:41pm Mayuko:

@northguineahills ah you're right! the decision was probably mainly part of the cold war thing.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:42pm rbrt:

now I'm bummed if he stole someone's fish discovery lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:43pm fred:

@rbrt: naming a species can be an homage. I think there's a spider species named after Bowie, and a bacteria named after Zappa. I'm pretty sure no scientist had to give up anything for that
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 2:45pm Mayuko:

@fred hmm, that's actually a good question! I just automatically assumed he discovered it since it was named after him!
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:47pm Rickwaukee:

brb, sudden urge
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:47pm coelacanth∅:

(or like columbus spotting land first, when apparently it was a crew member.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:48pm listener james from westwood:

Mmm, glad to have both Stetson and Lattimore in this set.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:49pm fred:

I think naming a species you discovered after your own name would be considered bad form. I don't think it would fly. But emperors probably go by different rules
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:50pm rbrt:

fred yeah I think you're prob right
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:50pm fred:

I so want to see Mary Lattimore someday
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:51pm rbrt:

humans make things so complicated lol, I'm just gonna enjoy the fishys
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:52pm coelacanth∅:

there are many animal and plant species named after the person who "discovered" them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:53pm listener james from westwood:

Thought experiment: What do you thinks the animals call us? Do you think they had a meeting and arrived at a consensus?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:54pm coelacanth∅:

"assholes"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:55pm fred:

@coel: my first guess too. It has to be an insult anyway
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:57pm northguineahills:

Thanks Mayuko, enjoy the holidays everyone!
  Sat. 12/23/17 2:58pm mzz:

oh no i missed it.
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:59pm rbrt:

haha I just say "fish experts"
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 2:59pm Webhamster Henry:

Ick-thee-o-lo-gist!
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 2:59pm rbrt:

you too ngh!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 3:00pm Webhamster Henry:

Hear you next time! Thanks Mayuko!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 3:00pm fred:

Extra thanks for the extra hour Mayuko
  Sat. 12/23/17 3:01pm Rickwaukee:

Thanks, Mayuko. Like Elvis said, I'll have a Christmas that blows without you. Stay warm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 3:01pm coelacanth∅:

the closing passage in Tom Robbins' book "villa incognito" ...
tanuki, regarding what "men" are doing: "global hara-kiri" ...kitsune:"they call it progress".
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 3:02pm Doug Schulkind:

Such a gorgeous broadcast, Mayuko. Thank you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 3:03pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mayuko happy solstice & happy birthdays!
Stellar program!
tchau camaradas
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 3:06pm rbrt:

Have a good weekend and holiday everyone
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 3:06pm tmoyo:

thanks mayuko! oyasuminasai
Avatar Sat. 12/23/17 3:06pm rbrt:

thanks Mayuko great show :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Sat. 12/23/17 3:06pm listener james from westwood:

This program is a weekly Christmas. That it precedes the actual one is icing on the gingerbread cookie. Thanks Mayuko! Laters, all!
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 3:09pm Mayuko:

Thanks again all for listening! Stay warm and have a beautiful week.
  Sat. 12/23/17 3:10pm mzz:

hi Mayu, i recommend reading this if you like: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4093897573/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Avatar    Sat. 12/23/17 3:13pm Mayuko:

oh hey, thanks mzz, I'll look into it!
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