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Artist Selection Album    (Label / Recording date)
Theme Music:
Sarah Webster Fabio  
Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues   Options Jujus Alchemy of the Blues
(Folkways 1976)
ECD  In Tempo   Options Major Force: The Original Art-Form
(Mo' Wax 1990)

The Carter Family  Chewing Gum   Options b/w I Ain't Goin' to Work Tomorrow (May Not Work Next Week)
(Victor 1928)
The Rough Riders  It's a Long Old Road   Options Moon Over the Trail
(B.A.C.M. 1939-40)
Roy Newman & His Boys  I Ought to Break Your Neck (For Breakin' My Heart)   Options b/w Love Burning Love
(Vocalion 1939)
Rusty Gill w/The Westernaires  She Works Third Tub at the Laundry   Options Cowboy Songs, Mountain Ballads
(B.A.C.M. )
Cal Shrum with his Rhythm Rangers & Colorado Hillbillies  I'm Human Same as You   Options b/w I Can't Help the Way You Feel
(McGregor transcription 1942)
Judy Martin & Her Mountain Rangers  She Buckeroo   Options b/w Sweetheart of the Saddle
(Melotone 1936)
Ocie Stockard & His Wanderers  Can't Nobody Truck Like You   Options Western Swing Chronicles, Volume 3
(B.A.C.M. 1937)
Paul & Roy  There Will Be No Disappointments   Options b/w Meet Me Lord, Half Way
(Mercury 1952)
Brother Claude Ely  Lost and Doomed   Options At Home and at Church with Brother Claude Ely
(King 1969)
Esco Hankins  Low and Lonely   Options b/w Waiting for My Call to Glory
(King 1947)

Talkover Music:
Charanjit Singh 
Jab Andhera Hota Hai   Options Raji Rani
(Transichord 1973)

Moonlight Expressions  Sala Nok'thula (As Soon as I Hang Up the Phone)   Options How Long
(Ring 1975)
Abafana Bezi Mpalampala  Blackstick Soul   Options Sax Jive Special, Volume 1
(Electric Jive 1971)
The Green Pastures  Please Come Back to Me   Options Groovin' with "Green Pastures"
(RAJ 1971)
The Sound Proofs  Love and Peace   Options After Me
(Love Love 1975)
Message  Waya-Waya   Options Working for Nothing
(JAS Pride 1977)
Intuthuko Brothers feat Hensford Mthembu  Tomorrow's Wedding   Options Tomorrow's Wedding
(Skyline 1974)
Walter Dhlamini  Lonely City   Options b/w I'll Never Love You Again
(Fire )

Talkover Music:
Organic Grooves 
Gold Weave   Options Black Cherry
(AUM Fidelity 2002)

Tiger Trio  Freezing Rain   Options Unleashed
(Rogue Art 2016)
Al Haig  The Moon Was Yellow (And the Night Was Young)   Options Al Haig Trio
(Period 1954)
Malachi Thompson   Fred Hopkins   Options Talking Horns
(Delmark 2001)
Ruben López Furst  Sometime Ago   Options Jazz Argentino
(CBS 1967)
Spontaneous Music Ensemble  Face to Face 3   Options Face to Face
(Emanem 1973)

Talkover Music:
Joe Henderson feat. Alice Coltrane 
Water   Options The Elements
(Milestone 1973)

Nissar Hussain Khan  Tarana Malkauns: Dir Dir Dim   Options 100 Moons: Hindustani Vocal Art, 1930-1955
(Canary )
Ustad Faryaad Hussain Khan  Dus Ungliyon ka Tabla   Options Tabla Tornado
(Sadarang 2003)
Bade Ghulam Ali Khan  Raga: Megh Malhar   Options Great Master, Great Music
(HMV 1971)
Sidasi Turya Vadayako  Drum Orchestra   Options Sri Lanka:
The Golden Era of Sinhalese and Tamil Folk-Pop Music
(Akuphone )

Talkover Music:
Dave Pike Set 
Mathar   Options Noisy Silence – Gentle Noise
(MPS 1969)

The Exciting Talkatives  Obiara Bewu   Options Peace and Love
(Polydor 1977)
Tee Mac  Wake Up   Options Party Fever
(Skylark 1978)
Super Djata Band de Bamako  Mali Ni Woula   Options The Original Sound of Mali
(Musique Mundial 1982)
Hervé Imare  Mêle-Mêle Pas Toué P'tit Pierre   Options Soul Sega Sa!
Indian Ocean Segas from the '70s
(Bongo Joe )
Stoneface and Life Everlasting  Agawalam Mba   Options b/w Love Is Free
(EMI 1973)

Talkover Music:
Odell Brown & the Organ-izers 
Tough Tip   Options Ducky
(Cadet 1968)

Ketty Lester  Nice 'n' Easy   Options When a Woman Loves a Man
(Tower 1966)
Vic Waters  Dreamer   Options b/w The Greatest Love
(Crazy Horse 1968)
Willie Hobbs  I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know   Options b/w I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know [long version]
(Bandit 1975)
The Rayons  I'm Giving Up, Baby   Options b/w Do You Love Me
(Decca 1969)
Lew Kirton  Do What You Want, Be Who You Are   Options b/w Come On With It
(Marlin 1977)
Little Mary Staten  Steppin' Stone   Options b/w Helpless Girl
(GME 1964)
George Jackson  I Lived Through a Losing Battle   Options Let the Best Man Win:
Fame Recordings, Volume 2
(Kent )

Closing Theme:
John Lee Hooker 
Stand By   Options I Feel Good
(Jewel 1971)

Listener comments!

Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:02pm listener james from westwood:

Glad to be tuned in to this dog-and-panda show!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:03pm Doug Schulkind:

And a horny panda at that, Listener James!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:04pm ndbob:

afternoon Doug, James, everyone!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:06pm Jeff Golick:

Space/time continuum shift, activated.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:06pm Doug Schulkind:

Good afternoon, everyone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:06pm Uncle Michael:

Good morning!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 12:06pm annie:

well, i thought it was next week this switcheroo started! glad to be here..home from all the mornng's errands.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:07pm Parq:

Geez, it's been a long time since I've been tuned in to hear this intro. Welcome to the afternoon, Doug. (I had a college radio show by that name once, but that's neither here nor there.) And the GIF is splendiferous.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:07pm Doug Schulkind:

I'm ready for my nap!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:07pm duke:

Do the time warp again.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:08pm Parq:

Do a good show. I'm just going to stare at the GIF for three hours.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 12:08pm doctorjazz:

Hey, I'm just starting to wake up.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:08pm Doug Schulkind:

Welcome, Parq! Greetings, duke! Rise and shine, doctorjazz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:08pm Uncle Michael:

MY nap.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 12:10pm melinda:

hello Doug!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:11pm Jeff Golick:

Wearing all of your clothes sounds like quite an achievement.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:11pm Uncle Michael:

I'm still wearing some of your clothes.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:11pm Doug Schulkind:

Full title of this song: "Chewing Gum in the Morning."

I kid!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:11pm Brian in UK:

Hello Doug.
Does you chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedpost over night?
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:13pm Doug Schulkind:

I just started chewing the bedpost, Brian in UK. More fiber in me diet!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:15pm Rich in Washington:

good to know I'm not completely nuts when I noticed the shows seem to be switched!
  Fri. 9/1/17 12:16pm Ramblin' Ray:

Greetings to all fellow travellers on the Long Old Road
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:16pm Doug Schulkind:

Oh no, Rich in Washington. You're you're not completely nuts!

Welcome aboard, Ramblin' Ray!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:17pm Doug Schulkind:

Horrible subject matter of this song. Provided for historical purposes only.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:19pm Doug Schulkind:

Trigger warning: The next song is as racist as this one's misogynist.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:20pm Monica:

high noon, doug!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:21pm Doug Schulkind:

Hi, Monica noon!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:22pm duke:

Is it just me? I'm not hearing the songs on the playlist. I'm hearing Check it Baby by Willie and the Magnificents
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:23pm Rich in Washington:

I think you're right, duke.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:23pm Santos L. Halper:

Hearing some wild sax, definitely not hillbillies
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:24pm Doug Schulkind:

OK that's bizarre
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:24pm Rich in Washington:

There's some skronkin' sax right now.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:24pm Doug Schulkind:

Hillbillies now?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:25pm Brian in UK:

Some intro.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:25pm listener james from westwood:

Now sounding like we got Cal.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:25pm listener james from westwood:

And She-Buckeroo.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:25pm duke:

Hillbillies "She Buckaroo"
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:26pm Doug Schulkind:

Did you hear my opening theme? Something weird in the switch between Michael and me, methinks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:27pm Parq:

Rich @12:15, Doug @ 12:16. Strictly speaking, the two are not mutually exclusive. Just saying.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:29pm Flash Strap:

Hiya Doug! happy to be here, usually I'm scarce around this time on Friday, but today I'm drummin'
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:31pm Uncle Michael:

I heard everything as one would expect, from the opening theme onward.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:32pm Uncle Michael:

With regard to heaven, will there be math?
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:34pm Doug Schulkind:

St. Peter will administer the quiz, Uncle M. The rest is up to you.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:44pm Flash Strap:

hey Uncle, caught the end of your show, as I rose late and morninged myself into motion... it was the perfect thing
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:46pm duke:

I would like to hear Ken and Andy broadcast a basketball game.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 12:46pm listener james from westwood:

Rocks for Jocks, but in the disk jockey sense of jocks.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:49pm Flash Strap:

this is amazing
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:50pm Doug Schulkind:

That was the Conway Twitty/Loretta Lynn duet "As Soon as I Hang Up the Phone."
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:53pm Uncle Michael:

Thanks, Evan.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 12:53pm Brian in UK:

There Will Be No Disappointments.
Time to change to shows' title?
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 12:56pm Doug Schulkind:

I'll be passing out disappoint mints later in the show, Brian in UK.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:03pm Doug Schulkind:

Then I'll just be passing out. Good times!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:03pm northguineahills:

Ok, finished my project I can relax for a bit, before the next assignment comes my way.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:04pm Doug Schulkind:

Just let me know where I should initial the cover page, northguineahills.
  Fri. 9/1/17 1:04pm Mr C:

The transition period is difficult...
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:06pm Doug Schulkind:

Not if you don't go through with the full surgery, Mr C.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:06pm Flash Strap:

That Sound Proofs was so chill, had to go looking for it
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:08pm Doug Schulkind:

Does the link still work, FS? Most (many) of Electric Jive's links are pretty long-lasting.
  Fri. 9/1/17 1:15pm Maggie B.:

Yay! Now it's really Friday.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:15pm listener james from westwood:

FS! Did you have a chance to check out that Purcell funeral march link from last night's (exquisite) playlist?
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:17pm Doug Schulkind:

Well if it ain't motherlovin' Maggie!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:18pm Flash Strap:

it does indeed, Doug!

Not yet Listener James but look forward to doing so after I give the drummer all I got. Thanks for reminding me
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:20pm Doug Schulkind:

Bass player Joëlle Léandre is an astonishing musician.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:22pm listener james from westwood:

Cool! It's right at the start and like just 2 or 3 min of the overall piece so you'll be back into your late afternoon in a jif!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:23pm Monica:

love this al haig trio take on "the moon was yellow"!
  Fri. 9/1/17 1:24pm Mr C:

Second that Mo!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:25pm Doug Schulkind:

Hard not to hear Nelson Riddle behind Frankie Blue Eyes doing that number.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:25pm Jeff Golick:

Completely unrelated to anything else:

Very cool then/now images/GIFs of Poconos resorts.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 1:29pm doctorjazz:

LOVE this Malachi Thompson track, not heard enough.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:31pm Flash Strap:

@james: is there a particular rendition you favor?
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:32pm Doug Schulkind:

More delights from late period Delmark. I played something by Active Ingredients on Delmark last week.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:32pm Jeff Golick:

Mala-KEE? Or Mala-KAI?
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:32pm hyde:

what th-
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:33pm Doug Schulkind:

Magical track here from Argentine pianist Ruben "Baby" López Furst.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:36pm Doug Schulkind:

"Kai" all the way, Jeff Goleek.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:36pm Doug Schulkind:

Hello there, hyde. This is not a drill! This is not a drill!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 1:37pm Parq:

It's just after 1:35 AM in Singapore. You're welcome.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:38pm hyde:

this is good music for recovering for the lunch i just ate (bone in chicken with green peppercorn) because it was one of the spicest things i've eaten in years. combining green sichuan peppercorn with habanero has to be the work of some evil genius
  Fri. 9/1/17 1:39pm Bruce in Boston:

Man that was swinging so great thanks Doug.
  Fri. 9/1/17 1:40pm Ramblin' Ray:

Recommend an impressionistic, offbeat documentary about French saxophonist Barney Wilen "The Rest Of Your Life" (subtitled)
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:40pm Doug Schulkind:

@Bruce in Boston
Such joyous sounds. Cheers!

Are you saying Give the Drummer Some is the white rice of radio?
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:41pm Doug Schulkind:

Oooh, thanks for the tip, Ramblin' Ray!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:42pm hyde:

@Doug more like the cool breeze of radio
  Fri. 9/1/17 1:43pm Ramblin' Ray:

Doug, suspect you might find his album Moshi of interest
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:51pm Doug Schulkind:

@Ramblin' Ray
I have it. So many greats from B Wilen.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:52pm Flash Strap:

Moshi is so great, Moshi Too as well
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:52pm Doug Schulkind:

Have you heard Wilen's "Auto Jazz: Tragic Destiny of Lorenzo Bandini." It takes my breath away.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:55pm Jeff Golick:

I haven't heard that, @Doug. I would like my breath to be taken away, too.

Love the cover (front and back) of this later Wilen:
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 1:56pm David D:

Good afternoon!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:56pm Doug Schulkind:

Not for you it isn't (afternoon), David D!

@Jeff G
I don't got that later Wilen!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 1:57pm geezerette:

Hi, Doug and givers.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 1:59pm Doug Schulkind:

Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 1:59pm David D:

You got me there, Doug. Dusk is indeed falling over Leipzig.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:01pm ndbob:

Heya Geezerette!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:01pm Jeff Golick:

(@Doug: I propose a trade.)
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:02pm Doug Schulkind:

My pleasure, Jeff. Just.... REMIND me.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:03pm Doug Schulkind:

Ornette Coleman, Joachim Kühn, and David D: Live From Leipzig.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 2:06pm doctorjazz:

Looked on Discogs for that Wilen album, looks collectable, priced accordingly...
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:06pm Doug Schulkind:

Live from Leipzig:
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:08pm Doug Schulkind:

Anyone who would like a digital copy of the Barney Wilen LP Auto Jazz: Tragic Destiny of Lorenzo Bandini, send me an email.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:10pm Doug Schulkind:

Anyone who would like to toot a horn while being dog-pulled in a pram, email me.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:11pm geezerette:

Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:11pm hyde:

Lorenzo Bandini's destiny was indeed tragic
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:12pm geezerette:

Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 2:13pm David D:

Live from Leipzig! Looks like I missed something there...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 2:13pm David D:

I'd like to toot digital copies of horns.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:14pm Kris Holmes:

Coffee Shop customers are struggling with this set ha
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:14pm hyde:

hi geezerette!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:14pm Doug Schulkind:

@David D
See link in my comment from 2:06.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:14pm Doug Schulkind:

Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:15pm geezerette:

Just noticed the Panda is resting that horn on one foot.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 2:18pm Artie:

Arriving late. Glad to be here. Seems dogs still run away from Panda Jazz. Maybe someday they'll start to get it.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:20pm Doug Schulkind:

One is never late to GTDS, just exceedingly early.

Nice observation!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:25pm Doug Schulkind:

Wake up / make up = Really lame rhyme scheme
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:26pm Doug Schulkind:

Everything else about this Nigerian fonk is killing it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 2:28pm David D:

Wouldn't want it any other way.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:28pm geezerette:

wake-up/make-up is lazy but the music,great!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:30pm Doug Schulkind:

I suppose one is permitted to rhyme lazily if it's in a second language.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:32pm Doug Schulkind:

Is the lead guitarist here Zani Diabate? Can anyone confirm? Not sure if he was with this version of Duper Djata.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:33pm geezerette:

lazy rhymes for lazy times.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:35pm Doug Schulkind:

I shall grant your wishes.

Our next selection is from Mauritius.

Is it delicious?

You bet your britches.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:36pm listener james from westwood:

May it multiply like loaves and fishes!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:38pm Jeff Golick:

Got the early dismissal from work for the holiday weekend, so will be taking you on my walk to the train, Doug. Will wish you a hearty THANK YOU now. And be well, all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 2:39pm Parq:

Not bad for a musician who probably doesn't know what a knish is.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:40pm geezerette:

Happy holiday,Jeff G.!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:41pm geezerette:

Sometimes it's like Wonderland in here! :)
  Fri. 9/1/17 2:41pm Jeff g.:

Tanks, @g!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:45pm Webhamster Henry:

I like the stream shows spilling over!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:47pm Doug Schulkind:

In their natural state, streams are meant to spill over!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:47pm listener james from westwood:

Ooh, Bronwyn coming back is always good news; dug her last fill-in!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 2:48pm doctorjazz:

Thanks Doug, one down...was great!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:51pm geezerette:

what a satisfying record.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 2:52pm doctorjazz:

Love this song (Hobbs), know it from Al Cooper/Blood Sweat and Tears, great tune!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:52pm Doug Schulkind:

It is satisfying to know it was satisfying.
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:53pm geezerette:

Love this Willie Hobbs version.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:53pm ndbob:

excellent show Doug!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:53pm Doug Schulkind:

Yup. An Al Kooper original. The track after the next one is a Hall and Oates original!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:53pm glenn:

there are worse rock star memoir thingys than al kooper's.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Fri. 9/1/17 2:54pm doctorjazz:

Is this the original? They stuck to the arrangement (BST) really closely.
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:54pm glenn:

Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 2:57pm geezerette:

Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:58pm Doug Schulkind:

This is the Hall 'n' Oates song...
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 2:58pm Doug Schulkind:

Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 3:01pm hyde:

wait, it's not noon it's 3 pm. where did the day go? THANKS
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 3:01pm glenn:

that sounds more like a brand of lube.
  Fri. 9/1/17 3:02pm Ramblin' Ray:

Thanks for the medicine Dr. D
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 3:03pm Doug Schulkind:

Happy to operate on your ears, everyone!
Avatar    Fri. 9/1/17 3:03pm listener james from westwood:

Yes indeed, thanks, Doug, and excellent adaptation to the new time slot! You and UM done good!
Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 3:05pm Doug Schulkind:

I owe it all to Uncle Michael. The blessing he's given to this air-slot swap is something for which I will be forever grateful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 3:09pm Sue P.:

wow...what a note to go out on!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 9/1/17 3:10pm Uncle Michael:

Avatar Fri. 9/1/17 3:12pm Doug Schulkind:

Didn't Smooch get fired from the White House?
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