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Options May 24, 2017: A Cult of Personality

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Derek the ex-Scientologist  0:00:00 (MP3 | )

Listener comments!

  Wed. 5/24/17 7:01pm james f:

do 8th level thetans have to pick up after the dog?
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:02pm TehBadDr:

More cult stuff?
Avatar    Wed. 5/24/17 7:02pm RomanDogBird:

oh oh
Avatar    Wed. 5/24/17 7:02pm RomanDogBird:

my boy hubby
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:04pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

Wait did you guys do the legal ID?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:05pm kimzilla:

Veronica did the ID
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:05pm kimzilla and Emily:

Yes, you asked for it, you got it, CULTS PT 2!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:05pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

Ok I will stop being Mini Ken
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:06pm Listener Scott:

Oh, I know Derek! Derek is awesome.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:06pm kimzilla and Emily:

Really, that's a small world.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:08pm Listener Scott:

I'm Tony Ortega's attorney--he writes about Scientology every day. Of all the ex-members you could get on, Derek is one of the best.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:09pm kimzilla and Emily:

wait. WHAT?! Scott, are you kidding?? That is too cool!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:09pm common:

Hello
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:09pm kimzilla and Emily:

Well lucky us, he's the only ex-scientologist we know!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:10pm kimzilla and Emily:

hi common!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:10pm Hypertoast:

The Underground Bunker is great
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:11pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

I once saw a sign in a storefront, FREE PERSONALTY TESTS! I fell for it, then once they handed me the literature, and I saw the S word, I hauled ass out of there
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:13pm TehBadDr:

Many times I was tempted to go into the Mansion in Dupont Circle DC just for shits and giggles, but was afraid I would never come out.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:13pm kimzilla and Emily:

@Aaron, smart man.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:14pm emily:

@TehBadDr: I've passed by that a few times too! Made the same decision...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:15pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

Be glad I came out
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:15pm kimzilla:

@ZTehBadDr, friends of mine went in, just for the architecture. 3 hrs later and 2 readings they left not knowing what happened.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:16pm Listener Scott:

TR's are about deadening your reactions so you're more susceptible to more Scientology bulls***
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:17pm kimzilla & emily:

@Scott: yeah--this is maybe the part that freaked us out more than anything.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/24/17 7:17pm melinda:

hi folks
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:17pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

Scott how did you become a lawyer against the fricking church of Scientology?
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:17pm TehBadDr:

@kimzilla, that's what I figured would happen! Hey they got out!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:18pm james:

reactive mind comes from not wanting to get mauled by a bear in the woods 7000 years ago. it can never be 'controlled'
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:18pm kimzilla & emily:

hi melinda!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:18pm common:

This sounds familiar
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:18pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

Hi Melinda prepare to be brainwashed
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:19pm kimzilla & emily:

james. the bears are not going to get you. calm down.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:20pm kimzilla & emily:

you can follow Derek on twitter @theformerscn
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:20pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

You missed a Bullshit, why arnt you sending me these shows so I can proof them?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:20pm kimzilla & emily:

oops. man, there were so many! mostly because we were editing up to 30 minutes ago.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:21pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

You need your own editor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:22pm Listener Scott:

@aaron I've been criticizing Scn online since the mid 1990s, and friends with Tony over the years. I'm known as 'tikk' in that world
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:22pm kimzilla & emily:

@Aaron that's really not a bad idea. It's just we love doing it so much!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:24pm kimzilla & emily:

@Listener Scott, Is that a code name?
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:25pm mcFunyun:

Great show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:25pm kimzilla & emily:

Like, "The Tikk is on the move."
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:25pm Listener Scott:

Describing Scientology is so difficult without sounding crazy yourself. Not everyone can do it well, but Derek is great and engaging and gets it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:26pm Listener Scott:

tikk is just the user name I've used on message boards and elsewhere over the years (like the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology)
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:31pm TehBadDr:

This is some great stuff again ladies! Derek is really letting it flow.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:32pm kimzilla & emily:

Thank you! Yeah, Derek was so great--so interesting and great at explaining all this. We could have done TWO hours!
Avatar    Wed. 5/24/17 7:33pm joe mulligan:

I did the cans test once on market st SF, and realized the needle would move when you squeeze them. when they asked how I felt about my daily commute, I gripped the cans crushingly till the needles pinned red. they looked frightened, said you need help and I said gotta go!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:34pm Listener Scott:

Derek makes a good point about how the early levels almost make sense and then the whole thing gets nuttier and nuttier as you get deeper in. That it's so expensive guards against you figuring out it's bunk, b/c you're too invested in it. If you spent this much, there MUST be something to it.
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:35pm Derek (Former SCN):

Hey guys! I'm glad you all are digging it! Feel free to ask me anything.
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:36pm Kimzilla:

Welcome Derek!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:36pm kimzilla & emily:

@Scott: that's such an important observation. It's a sentiment echoed by other cult survivors as well (including the one we interviewed in the first part of our "cults" episodes).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:36pm kimzilla & emily:

Hi Derek!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:36pm Kimzilla:

This is so cringe worthy!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:37pm Marc15:

Like the torture of Gay Conversion Therapy
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:37pm Derek (Former SCN):

Hiya! It really is cringe worthy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:38pm emily:

It's so much scarier than I even realized. There were so many things I learned that gave me the heebie jeebies.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:38pm Listener Scott:

Derek I said nice things about you if you scroll up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:38pm JakeGould:

@ListenerScott: Ever hear of the phrase, “Sunken costs?” It’s basically a business term that means if future outlook is not so great, you can’t justify being involved in something just because you spent a lot of time and money already.

In real life it means that if you feel something is bad, stop looking at your past investments as something you should work against. If you had a great relationship and then it went south, just ditch it as painful as it might be. In the long run it will work out better.
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:39pm Derek (Former SCN):

Thanks Scott!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:40pm JakeGould:

Also mean simply, “Quit while you’re ahead.”
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:41pm geezerette:

L. Ron Hubbard was originally a scifi writer and acolyte of Aleister Crowely. Seriously.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/24/17 7:41pm melinda:

I saw an interesting doc about former Sea Org members. It opened my eyes to some of the cruelty of the cult.
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:42pm Derek (Former SCN):

You can read about LRH's "illustrious" Naval career (including shelling Mexico) here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_L._Ron_Hubbard
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:43pm Listener Scott:

Right, sunken costs play a role; it's compounded by the prospect of losing all your friends (Scn cut your non-Scn family out years ago), and often you're not trained for any real life work.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/24/17 7:44pm (Murakami Whywolf))):

As part of the Crowley stuff, Hubbard also mooched-off Jack Parsons, the founder of J.P.L., for awhile, and left with Parson's boat and mistress.

And here _I_ thought that the e-meter measured capacitance.
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:46pm geezerette:

The Germans didn't allow them to set up shop. Don't know about now. I've heard all this from a number of people.
Derek is very brave as well as sharp and articulate.
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:48pm geezerette:

@Murikami WW: Exactly! Fascinating story.
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:52pm Derek (Former SCN):

It was my pleasure!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/24/17 7:52pm melinda:

Thanks Derek!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:52pm common:

Thank you both, and you Derek!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:53pm Hypertoast:

Great Episode!
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:53pm TehBadDr:

Yeah, well done Derek!
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:54pm mcFunyun:

Derek Thanks for sharing
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:54pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

Take a trip to Minnesota!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:55pm Tommy in Neversink:

Fantastic season !!!!! E and K
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:55pm james f:

37?!?! in a row?
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:55pm mcFunyun:

Derek Thanks for sharing
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:55pm Hypertoast:

On a blimp!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/24/17 7:55pm Tommy in Neversink:

You must go to the House on the Rock in WI
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:56pm mcFunyun:

Derek Thanks for sharing
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:57pm geezerette:

This is a great show, Emily & Kim! Haven't heard before.
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:57pm Sand7018:

37 Episodes!!!! Holy Smokes, Ladies!!!!!!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:57pm Derek (Former SCN):

My pleasure! I'm happy to expose these charlatans!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:57pm DEZ:

starman!!! YEZ!!!
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:57pm Sand7018:

Thanks Derek!!!!!!
  Wed. 5/24/17 7:59pm james f:

nicely done, ladies!
Avatar Wed. 5/24/17 7:59pm geezerette:

fingers crossed for Ted.
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