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Options May 25, 2014

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Pearls Before Swine  Snow Queen   Options ...Beautiful Lies You Could Live In  0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
Balval  Insomnia   Options Ten Hand Band  0:04:48 (Pop‑up)
Ginger Baker  Ginger Spice   Options Why?  0:07:43 (Pop‑up)
Chico Hamilton Quintet  Gongs East   Options Gongs East  0:13:41 (Pop‑up)
Bud Powell  Dance of the Infidels   Options Birdland 1953  0:18:03 (Pop‑up)
Ramases  Quasar One (Rare: Part I)   Options Complete Discography  0:30:12 (Pop‑up)
Markku Peltola  Ou-Ou-Ah?   Options Buster Keatonin Ratsutilalla  0:35:24 (Pop‑up)
Ted Curson Quartet  Cinq Quatre   Options Urge  0:43:17 (Pop‑up)
Sixtoo  [side A]   Options Boxcutter Emporium  0:50:39 (Pop‑up)
Grg Ptrsn  Esther Island, 1959   Options Crossing the Empty Set  1:13:38 (Pop‑up)
Mr. Scruff  Deliverance   Options Friendly Bacteria  1:16:43 (Pop‑up)
Bob Ostertag  Cornflower   Options Verbatim  1:20:49 (Pop‑up)
Alek et les Japonaises  Tori No Karaage   Options Kokekokko  1:24:41 (Pop‑up)
Crooked Jades  Fork & File   Options World's on Fire  1:27:28 (Pop‑up)
Bert Jansch  Oh My Babe   Options It Don't Bother Me  1:28:58 (Pop‑up)
Farm  Sunshine in My Window   Options Farm  1:37:49 (Pop‑up)
Sonny Rollins  B. Swift   Options Sonny Boy  1:41:24 (Pop‑up)
George Crumb  Zeitgeist, Part I: Portent   Options Zeitgeist, Celestial Mechanics  1:47:22 (Pop‑up)
Glenn Kotche  Haunted Dance   Options Adventureland  1:58:19 (Pop‑up)

Listener comments!

Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:02pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, radio lovers.
  🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:03pm 12539:

Dave, I am glad to hear about the upcoming extra hour.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:04pm P-90:

Evenin', Dave!
You got the 3rd hour back!
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:04pm doca:

Hi, Mr. Dave Mandl. Also glad you got your 3rd hour back and that your show will be back to the old time slot
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:06pm doca:

@Dave: I got a book to read for writing a paper and I was very glad when I read "Book design: Dave Mandl". Is is you or the other Dave Mandl around the world?
  🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:06pm 12539:

End Mandl Savings Time once and for all, I say.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:06pm earrie:

The third hour was ..found between the cushions, discovered beyond the horizon, sprung forward with daylight savings time ..
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:06pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks, folks. I'll try to live up to your high standards.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:07pm doca:

I only hope we don't see an increase by 1/3 of rock and roll in your show.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:08pm Dave Mandl:

@doca: Hmmmm...that's always possible.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:09pm P-90:

As the good book says: "......the Station Manager giveth, and the Station Manager taketh away"
--and we mortals can only hope for the best and roll with the punches
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:09pm Dave Mandl:

@doca: That's probably me. I don't want to plug my own stuff here, but who's the author of the book?
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:10pm doca:

@Dave: It's "Behind the Blip: Essays on the Culture of Software", by Matthew Fuller (ed. Autonomedia)
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:11pm earrie:

..basking in the twilight zone
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:11pm Dave Mandl:

@doca: Yup, that would be me.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:12pm Dave Mandl:

Good book (which I can't take credit for). Matt's a very smart guy.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:12pm The Brooklyn Kid:

A good evening to you MR Mandl
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:13pm Dave Mandl:

Ah, Brooklyn Kid. Welcome.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:14pm doca:

@Dave: Ah cool! It always brings me a smile whenever I see WFMU-related people on non-WFMU-related things. It's like a shibboleth
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:14pm Cooh John:

Why not? Great muzique as alwaze.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:16pm Droll:

Drum-n-Bass opener with bands that blow... Mandl, we need to talk.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:16pm doca:

@Dave: I've only read the first chapter, but it's really nice. It is helping me on an essay about computer mediation in the crafting of historical sources.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:16pm Dave Mandl:

@Cooh John: Thanks.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:17pm Dave Mandl:

@Droll: Well, horn players that blow.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:18pm The Brooklyn Kid:

Me Mandl I've listened to your show on and off for the past few years.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:19pm The Brooklyn Kid:

Groovy sounds tonight I'm going to find my beret, dark glasses and turtle neck sweater
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:20pm Dave Mandl:

You'll sweat to death wearing that outfit in Brooklyn in late May.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:21pm The Brooklyn Kid:

Yeah baby I'm a hip cat:)
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:23pm Cooh John:

@ The Brooklyn Kid: Do not forget your jacket with elbow patches if it gets chilly.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:23pm The Brooklyn Kid:

I'm going to recite poetry now

How can a dude put his past behind him when it's always in front if him
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:28pm The Brooklyn Kid:

More poetry...
Have a nice day
Try not to get in anyone's way
Enjoy your stay
Don't forget to pay
Tip the doorman ray
What else do you want me to say?
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:28pm jeanne:

Dave's hilarious tonight, boys n girlz.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:29pm Droll:

"worlds first supergroup" ... "you didn't miss much". Viva le 3rd hour of commentary!

...Beautiful Lies You Could Live In. ‎(LP): Reprise Records RS 6467 US 1971
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:30pm The Brooklyn Kid:

YES was the first supergroup
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:31pm doca:

I loved that second line too, Droll.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:32pm Droll:

Ramses is 10cc!!! Please wait until you have a 3-hour show for that special!
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:32pm doca:

This Ramases is the one Joe McGasko did an interview with the guy that ran the compilation, isn't? Great interview and great figure
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:33pm Dave Mandl:

@jeanne: Why, thank you.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:34pm Dave Mandl:

@Brooklyn: Cream was a few years earlier, but let's agree to disagree.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:35pm The Brooklyn Kid:

YES had so many more hits than cream.didn't they
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:36pm doca:

Ken should do a YES show for once. Three hours of it.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:37pm doca:

@Dave: on which label did this Ramases comp was released?
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:38pm The Brooklyn Kid:

Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:38pm Dave Mandl:

@Brooklyn: "supergroup" not in the sense of great, but in the sense of who the members were.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:40pm Dave Mandl:

@doca: Stormvox? More info here: www.copticcat.com...
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:40pm The Brooklyn Kid:

Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:40pm Droll:

. o O ( Super is in the ears of the beholder )
By that definition, "supergroups" were a dime a dozen with the jazzers.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:41pm doca:

@Dave: Thanks!
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:42pm JakeGould:

I took one of those 2-3 hour “naps” where I just woke up now. Not complaining. Hello!
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:42pm The Brooklyn Kid:

Well ok talent wise you have to give some to YES for all their hits and THE WHO
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:43pm pacific standard simon:

Hello all. Finally home from work. Mr. Mandl is correct -- the term "supergroup" referred to rock groups made up of people who were already famous for being in other bands. Cream is the earliest example I can think of.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:44pm pacific standard simon:

Also, probably the beginning of the term "power trio"
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:44pm Droll:

Howdy pss! Can you define "famous"? I can make a list of supergroups if we can nail this down.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:45pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, Jake, pss, and everyone else who I haven't said "Evening" to yet.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:45pm JakeGould:

@Droll Exactly. There are a few indie “supergroups” that are really just groups.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:46pm Dave Mandl:

Like everything else, the term is used recklessly now, but it was clear what a "supergroup" was in the '70s. Doesn't mean they were good!
  🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:47pm 12539:

Wikipedia says, "Cream was widely regarded as being the world's first successful supergroup," which makes me wonder - what was the world's first *failed* supergroup?
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:49pm The Brooklyn Kid:

To me when I hear the word "supergroup" I think of a band from the 60's or 70's that had a lot of char topping hits
I blame the dj's at the old wnew radio station up the dial
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:49pm JakeGould:

I barely got it. So you are saying that Ginger Baker was a musical force of his own back then, right? And what `12539` says. Bingo. Yahtzee.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:49pm pacific standard simon:

In those primitive rock 'n' roll days, I think all the members had to have at least one album out as a member of a band, and had quit said band. By that standard, Ginger Baker, was the least super of the band. Blind Faith was even more "super", as a group, because several members had already been members of "supergroups".
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:50pm Droll:

12539, And if you can answer that question, then we have to deal with what is super about a failed group?
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:50pm JakeGould:

@The Brooklyn Kid: WNEW was great. Period. You realize many WNEW DJs and their format came from WFMU?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:51pm pacific standard simon:

Ginger Baker was, hmm, a member of Graham Bond's band?
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:51pm earrie:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:54pm pacific standard simon:

Yes. With Jack Bruce, who had also been in John Mayall's band. The whole idea of "musical chairs" in rock music was not familiar to rock and pop fans, as it was to jazz fans.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:56pm the Brooklyn kid:

Scott Muni!!!
Yes I distinctly remember him calling YES a rock supergroup
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:57pm pacific standard simon:

I've spent waaaay too much time poring over Pete Frame's Rock Family Trees!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:57pm pacific standard simon:

pouring. or maybe purring.
  🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 10:57pm 12539:

In jazz, it's just the "Lead Player Trio." In rock, you need a silly name.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 10:59pm JakeGould:

“Yes” was a supergroup. You might not like “Yes” because if some progrock indie snobbery, but that is what they are.
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:59pm the Brooklyn kid:

I spent a lot of years listening to wnew.
Scott Muni
Dennis Elsis
Pete Formatale
Dam Carlyle
Carol miller
  Sun. 5/25/14 10:59pm P-90:

pss: you got it, the scene of young professional rock musicians in London at that time was very much like the scene in New York/Chicago/Hollywood, guys jumped from one band to another and played sessions for other artists all the time.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:01pm Droll:

12539, That's a good point I hadn't noticed before. Jazz band names are literal: The So-and-so Trio. So-and-so with the Whoevers. Rock names are Dada.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:03pm Droll:

If the original lineup of Yes is a supergroup, what is the 19th lineup of Yes? A Super-duper-ultra-mega-group?
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:04pm JakeGould:

@Droll: It’s because jazz musicians get together to jam, work well together & then form a band on the spot. And most jazz musicians have a strong individual identify in addition to their band affiliations. Rock & pop bands are a bit more pretentious & self important. And if you have a solo life? Whoa! Back off! You can’t do that!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:05pm pacific standard simon:

I'm not sure what the proper term for Yes might be, but I'm pretty sure that "supergroup" in the original sense of the word, before it was corrupted by corrupt FM DJs, is NOT one correct one. Wouldn't surprise me if a whole bunch of bands, from Zeppelin to Tull to whoever headlined at an arena, got tagged as a "supergroup".
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:06pm JakeGould:

@PSS: Do you mean that because nowadays ‘supergroup” is far more of a conscious moniker?
  Sun. 5/25/14 11:06pm P-90:

Yes was definitely referred to as a "supergroup" when they formed by the time Howe and Wakeman joined;
by then the members had all distinguished themselves in other bands, though the "other band" that Squire and Anderson had proven themselves in was earlier version(s) of Yes, so it's a little convoluted
And by then it was 69, three years after Cream had formed w/much "supergroup" hoopla
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:12pm pacific standard simon:

If "supergroup" was ever misapplied to any arena-rock band in the 70s, it strikes me as being more of advertising ploy by commercial radio DJs reading advertising copy. For my money, the definitive, if not the first, super bands were the Bloomfield, Kooper & Stills "Super Session" band, Blind Faith, and Crosby, Stills, & Nash.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:15pm Droll:

The supergroups Yes and King Crimson merged to form the group Asia. Super²-group?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:17pm pacific standard simon:

Also, "it's getting too the point where I'm no fun anymore". HA HA :D
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:18pm Droll:

Yeah, there's no definitive list here. [Yawn]
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:18pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I was in the grocery store a couple hours ago and Rolling Stone had an article about Robin Gibb. He was big in the 70s. I didn't finish the article. Will try to see if it's online yet.
  Sun. 5/25/14 11:20pm P-90:

CSN (+Y!) is a great example of a textbook supergroup, Blind Faith is the classic example, the "type specimen" of the genre.
pss is right, it depends on the definition, lots of bands were made up of "previously very successful" guys. And Led Zep WAS referred to as a supergroup by the English press at the time they appeared, but right, then what about Tull and others?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:22pm pacific standard simon:

It's starting to strike me as odd that we're chatting about this on a radio show that is "Guaranteed less than 2% rock and roll." (!)
  Sun. 5/25/14 11:24pm P-90:

Alao: if Clapton and Baker were veterans of another supergroup, did that make Blind Faith a super-suoergroup?
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:24pm Dave Mandl:

Only un-super-groups for me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:24pm pacific standard simon:

Emerson Lake and Palmer (who?)
  🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:25pm 12539:

The 2% limit doesn't apply to us, only to Dave.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:26pm pacific standard simon:

Good thing -- I'd hate to be banished!
  Sun. 5/25/14 11:26pm P-90:

We like our WFMU playlists very un-super, and our Comments sometimes uber-super. Just the way it is, go figure...
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:29pm earrie:

.. caught in a loop one might surmise as being something-seasonal at the international date line
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:29pm pacific standard simon:

There should be a category for anti-supergroups -- ultra-famous bands whose members quit and become huge losers. Frank Zappa and the Mothers, anyone?
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:39pm earrie:

.. sent aloft where it circulated up and through Earth's troposphere, stratosphere, mesosphere and ionosphere. Wandering in and around and back.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:39pm pacific standard simon:

I think there must have been another clerical error -- no Monica on the schedule.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:40pm pacific standard simon:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:41pm pacific standard simon:

So Quicksilver, it's scary.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:42pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Monica is the Landon Donovan of WFMU, I take it?
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:46pm Droll:

Ahhh, Mandl's back to his old tricks of of playing jazz shredders to squeeze in so many notes the 2% non-rock quota is maintained.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:46pm pacific standard simon:

Have I mentioned that I found an online database of all Bill Graham productions at Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco? It was a gas, looking up the shows I was at, but could barely remember.
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:46pm JakeGould:

Jazz is great. Period.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:49pm pacific standard simon:

I know that Eric Dolphy is Bob Brainen's territory on FMU, but that would be a nice start to the return of the 3-hour World of Echo.
  Sun. 5/25/14 11:56pm P-90:

pss: is there a link to that Fillmore joint?
  Sun. 5/25/14 11:56pm P-90:

I mean Winterland
  🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:57pm 12539:

Lovely percussion.

Thanks for the show, Dave.
  Sun. 5/25/14 11:58pm P-90:

See? two hours go by way too fast!
Thanks, Dave!
Avatar Sun. 5/25/14 11:59pm Droll:

Thanks, Dave! I like all the live horns, but give Mellotron another chance when you have the third hour back.
Have a good week!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sun. 5/25/14 11:59pm pacific standard simon:

  Mon. 5/26/14 12:00am P-90:

Thnks, pss
Avatar Mon. 5/26/14 12:00am earrie:

Agreed, yeah.
Here's to that 3rd hr return.
Avatar Mon. 5/26/14 12:00am Dave Mandl:

Thanks, everyone. Have a great week!
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