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The Failure of Noise
The Failure of Sound
The Failure of Rock
The Failure of the Avant Garde
The Failure of the Space Age
The Failure of Jazz
The Failure of Psychedelia
The Failure of Krautrock
The Failure of Electronic
The Failure of Pop
The Failure of Free-form
The Failure of the 20th Century

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Options August 8, 2013: A Double Round Robin of Failure

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
James Last  Mr. Giant Man   Options Voodoo Party  0:00:00 ()
Carlton Melton  Road Swagger   Options Four Eyes  0:12:54 ()
Skullflower  Blood Harvest   Options Kino I: Birthdeath  0:13:18 ()
Unchained  Falsini Fop or Blade   Options The Happy Stirrup  0:16:06 ()
Gnod / White Hills  Run A Rround   Options Gnod Drop Out with White Hills II  0:25:48 ()
Python Lee Jackson   In A Broken Dream   Options   0:33:57 ()
 
Pere Ubu  30 Seconds Over Tokyo   Options Datapanik In The Year Zero  0:52:36 ()
Pere Ubu  Cloud 149   Options Datapanik In The Year Zero  1:03:50 ()
Pere Ubu  Heart of Darkness   Options Datapanik In The Year Zero  1:04:15 ()
DNA  Blonde Red Head   Options DNA On DNA  1:04:35 ()
DNA  New New   Options DNA On DNA  1:04:52 ()
DNA  Lying on the Sofa of Life   Options DNA On DNA  1:08:41 ()
DNA  Taking Kid to School   Options DNA On DNA  1:09:09 ()
DNA  Delivering the Good   Options DNA On DNA  1:12:57 ()
DNA  Detached   Options DNA On DNA  1:13:10 ()
 
Pierre Henry  Breath 1   Options Le Voyage  1:24:47 ()
Key of shame  untitled   Options Threnody for Marcus Junius Brutus  1:36:13 ()
Jacques Berrocal  Parallèles   Options Parallèles  1:43:24 ()
 
Freddie Hubbard with Ilhan Mimaroglu  Sing Me A Song of Songmy pt.1 (the Crowd, What a good time for a Kent State)   Options Sing Me A Song of Songmy  2:08:10 ()
Jooklo Duo & Bill Nace  Scratch Here   Options Scratch  2:11:27 ()
Sabir Mateen/Sirone/Andrew Barker  Infinite (excerpt)   Options Infinite Flowers  2:16:56 ()
Paul Bley Quintet  Batterie   Options Barrage  2:25:44 ()
 
Mika Vanio  Cargo   Options Kilo  2:33:37 ()
Gianluca Becuzzi & Fabio Orsi  Blue Drones for a Ballad   Options The Stones Know Everything  2:44:00 ()
J.O. MALLANDER  In Reality   Options Extended Play  2:52:23 ()
 

Listener comments!

Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:10pm hamburger:

Hi ho!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:10pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

Great salivating gangster computergod, what is this magic?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:11pm Cecile:

dude, you are rocking out today.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:12pm DCE:

may I join this voodoo party?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:12pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Did Diane leave an unmarked CD in the player?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:12pm Negative Eclipse:

slick
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:12pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

Dibs on the canary yellow naugahyde beanbag.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...I am home.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:19pm fred:

Failure to know where I am... this is a good thing
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:20pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

I've somehow managed to destroy this beanbag.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:23pm Cory:

RTD, is it the knife suit you are wearing?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:24pm northguineahills:

Maybe I can curl up in this cabinet drawer. I think the hedfons will reach.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:25pm tim from champaign:

Fabio is on fire! He's raised the pirate freak flag way up high on the WFMU tower.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~~~>>>(((O)))<<<~~~
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:29pm DCE:

gnodding along at my desk!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:29pm fred:

Pirate freak flags are mundane up there. And nothing to be that alarmed about on this particular program, in my experience
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:30pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

all the furniture eaten.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:30pm Ken From Hyde Park:

The Failure of Round Robins
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:31pm Ike:

RTD, I agree, Fabio is definitely bringing the great salivating gangster computergod this week. And who couldn't use a nice salivating gangster computergod now and then? I sure can.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:31pm DCE:

are we sure this isn't neu Neu!?
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:32pm davis:

i think they probably enjoy a neu record now and then
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:32pm fred:

@RTD: come to thing of it, I'm at home and running out of ungnawed furniture. Could there be a link?
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:32pm Parquet Courts:

You're all stoned and starving
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:33pm gravytop:

Is Fabio going to be on Dusty later? I must know.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:33pm northguineahills:

Damn, I'm neither.... :(
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:33pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

burping up floating ottomans all over the place.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:34pm northguineahills:

I saw Wire review that knocked Gnod off as derivative, but that was exactly what I needed w/o a claymation Tim Burton acid freakout........ Gotta git dat rekkid!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:35pm Cheri Pi:

Everything y ou ave played so far Fab, has ruled. How did I miss this Gnod/White Hills thingy?
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:35pm davis:

rod
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:35pm Cecile:

I LOVE THIS. Rod before he was a joke.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

NGH: I remember that Wire review. Thought it was totally off the mark. There's definitely a bunch of hollow derivative wannabe-kraut out there but Gnod has the deep. In my humble.
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm gravytop:

Grod
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm davis:

rod is cooler than gnod
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm Cecile:

ROD! Stop singing shitty songs! And standards your voice is not suited for!
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm snake eyes:

nice
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm Loren:

Ha! Rod the bod... nice! How is everyone on this fine Thursday?
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm Dean:

Was hoping to hear Rod Stewart today. And yeah, fortunately there's a lot of Rod before he was a joke.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:36pm ottovonbqe:

Grade A Rod!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:37pm Cory:

I'm getting a Kenny Rogers vibe off this one.
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:37pm blee:

I like this.
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:37pm blee:

I like this.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:37pm northguineahills:

Amen, the most reverend turnip azul sausage infante druid!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:38pm Cecile:

Fabio, you should play Silver Mountain by Timmy's Organism. Or in my words, "the devendra barnhart diet song"
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:38pm fred:

I don't care what Wire says. I want to see Gnod live. Then I'll know. Or not. But I'll have seen them, and maybe remember most of it
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:38pm Cheri Pi:

i was chuckling about Unchained, a gnod to Van halen.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:40pm Cheri Pi:

I am Pro-Gnod. continue...
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:41pm Cecile:

the word bagel comes from the German word for stirrup I just learned.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:42pm fred:

Gnodding off/out now, fly that freak fly high folks
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:43pm northguineahills:

I suppose a bagel sort of looks like a stirrup where you put a foot.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:43pm northguineahills:

Mathew Bower kills!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:43pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

foot bagel cost extra.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:44pm Cecile:

I have always been surprised at how cheaply I have been able to pick up Skullflower releases here in Mpls.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:44pm Cecile:

i'd find them between $1-4 bucks. Probably not anymore, though.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:45pm northguineahills:

One thing I like about the Wire, is when a particular writer knocks an album in a certain way, I know I'll love it.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:45pm Cecile:

exactly, NGH.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:45pm northguineahills:

8o! I wish I could find cheap Skullflower releases!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:46pm Cheri Pi:

I love those crazy Carlton Melton kids. My favorite Wire contributer by far is Sherman Hemsley, he always gves the undeerdog a fair shake.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:46pm Cecile:

waaaaaaaaaaaaah, tim wright.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:47pm Cecile:

hahahahah, pi.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:48pm northguineahills:

I went to MOMA sound art exhibit preview on Sunday, it was so much fun. Even my gf's friend, who's afraid of "experimental music", enjoyed it thoroughly (who was the friend that got us in).
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:50pm Know Wave:

Do Your homework!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:54pm Cheri Pi:

I could really go for a bagel right now. Everything if you have it...
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:55pm Cory:

@Bagel_The_Cat?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:55pm DCE:

those garlic ones...yeah...
  Thu. 8/8/13 3:56pm common:

I was a young-un in pittsburgh and saw pere ubu. didn't know anything about them. I was blown away and confused.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 3:57pm Cheri Pi:

can he toast bagels? then YES! Garlic, salt, poppyseeds, onion bits.....tabasco
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:03pm Cecile:

YES
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:05pm northguineahills:

I have poppy seeds on the crust of my curry pie I baked. Homegrown jalapenos, garlic and onions, and salt; that almost counts for non-bagel consumables, right?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:07pm Cheri Pi:

oh it counts NGH, it counts very much.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:08pm northguineahills:

Although I'm full, I want another slice....
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:08pm Cecile:

can't believe this came out on Kip Hanrahan's label.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:09pm Cecile:

I loved DNA because even though they were o noisy, they had so much space in their music.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:12pm northguineahills:

Yeah, I've always have been a big fan of DNA.
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:12pm Dean:

Don't miss this one: http://www.allmusic.com/album/release/dna-last-live-at-cbgbs-mr0000138136
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:15pm hamburger:

O_O
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:15pm Nardo:

2 of my fave bands actually. RIP Tim Wright.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:16pm glenn:

toasted sesame seed bagel. a slice of ripe pineapple. yummy.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:16pm northguineahills:

Man, Dean, I'd kiss you for that, thanks! (yes, hyperbole over the excitement of being able to later listen to DNA tracks I've yet to hear.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:16pm KOTJ:

Am I a dummy not to know Blonde Red Head was named after a DNA song?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:17pm hamburger:

is the music behind DJ also DNA?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:17pm Cecile:

no, KOTJ. They weren't really a household name.
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:19pm ?:

YES Cecile, exactly. I loved Tim Wright and DNA is still my most favorite band of all time. He put me on the list at Hurrahs when I was like 19 and his waitress at Binibon and I was devoted ever since. When I ran into him in the 90's he was doing theatre stuff and had NO copies of Taste of DNA. ugh. He was a polymath shaman demiurge. RIP
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:19pm KOTJ:

Thanks, C. Phew. You can't know it all. There's still some mystery in the world.
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:19pm Ben:

Fiorucci
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:20pm Cecile:

KOTJ, I personally starred at least four songs by groups I knew nothing about on Diane's show.
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:20pm Dean:

NGH: not hyperbole at all. I'm old enough to have purchased the No New York LP when it was released. Despite having purged much of my rock collection during the '80s, I retained that one. But damn, I got rid of the Mars vinyl!
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:22pm jeanli:

Squat Theatre, well it was early 80's when I saw them there. I was still in high schooli n 79 so I know it wasnt that early Fabio. They may have played there several times tho...yikes.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:22pm Cecile:

Boston had exactly 1 good song.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:22pm Cheri Pi:

late Pink floyd, the kind my mom likes...
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:22pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

oh yes, the dribble. It was oozing. Confirmed.
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:23pm Dean:

First coupla Journey albums aren't too bad. They rise above mere drivel.

The one good Boston song? Don't tell me...it's the one with the (faux-)Hammond B3 lead-in?
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:23pm Jack:

Some say that there was no Pink Floyd after Syd Barrett...
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:23pm DCE:

I seen my Mary Ann walkin' away....ayyyy AYYYYYYYYY AYYYYYYYYYYY!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:24pm tim from champaign:

Kansas is coming to town in a few weeks to play the Urbana Corn Fest. The name of the festival is unironic.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:25pm tim from champaign:

Did the trailer have a bunch of quips from rock critic weenies all saying "Punk rock is the bathroom in CBGBs"?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:26pm Cheri Pi:

That's great TfC! If that's what it takes to trick a band, I'm all for it
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:26pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

Nice, Pierre H.
THERE'S the cicadas I've been waiting for.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:26pm KOTJ:

Music, a bountiful wormhole
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:26pm Dean:

This Pierre Henry reminds me of Bernard Fort's 12 Haiku: http://www.discogs.com/Bernard-Fort-12-Haiku-LImpatience-Des-Limites/release/254493
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:26pm Floyd:

Why do you still feel the need to alienate yourself so? It's OK. They do like you. Open your hearts and let them in.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:27pm Cory:

Hi Cory, this is where you left to go to work. Shouldn't you be painting while you listen to this? Enjoy this message future me!!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:33pm DCE:

there's a short somewhere
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:33pm Ken From Hyde Park:

@Future Cory - Has the bitcoin poker game I'm about to invent become popular yet?
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:37pm nic:

love this pierre henry is so great
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:38pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

What nic said. Plus bonus all-caps and a few !!!!! things.
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:38pm nic:

ah wrong 1 it's key of shame!!! love it
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:38pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

though perhaps by now it's Key of Shame methinks. Or other?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:39pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

Shotgun spray of clicky-stars. It's all good.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:39pm northguineahills:

I have so much free music streams and downloads from WFMU from the last week, it'll take weeks for me to get through them all.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:40pm northguineahills:

Man, went for a 10 minute walk in the park to stretch my legs and stop staring at my monitor, AND I MISS PIERRE HENRY *sobs*.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:53pm northguineahills:

On-Ree!
  Thu. 8/8/13 4:54pm tomorrow never knows:

What????
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 4:57pm glenn:

it's hen ree. on ree has an i on the end.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:01pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

oh yez. This mixture very definitely works yes yes.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:03pm northguineahills:

That's not how Thierry (terry) pronounces his last name.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:04pm northguineahills:

there is an H, but it's rather soft.
  Thu. 8/8/13 5:04pm Nardo:

Always liked Freddie Hubbard but never knew of this. He was one hip mother fucker.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:04pm fred:

@NGH: come over in France and make up for it. I'm getting seriously worried about Boulez, but Pierre Henry looks worse. Berrocal is a youngster
  Thu. 8/8/13 5:07pm Wilmer:

I named my first male born Chin Chow, but it was pronounced Clint Eastwood.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:20pm northguineahills:

I had a curious time at De Gaulle airport. Going from Berlin-Paris-Mexico City. My gf's visa expired while we were in Europe, so, she was going to Mexico to get it renewed. Unfortunately, our flight stopped in Altanta. So, the US immigration officer at De Gaulle refused to let her on the plane. So, she spent 3 days unable to get any of the French employees to help her (she speaks French), and it wasn't until she ran into a Kiwi passenger, that she got some real information. She bought a new $2700 direct ticket to Mexico City. Meanwhile, I was in Mexico City, bought a bus ticket to her parent's town, and I hadn't slept in 2.5 days. Her parents speak no English, and have never saw me. It worked out ok. I spent 3 days watching the Simpsons en espanol, and her mom cooked me more food then I could possible eat before my gf got to DF (Mexico City).
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:28pm fred:

@NGH: I lost track along the way. Did it get sorted out? I guess it did, you're here...
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:31pm northguineahills:

Yeah, it all worked out, but my gf came away noticing that most French employees weren't that helpful. The Kiwi guy saved her ass (after going in and out of immigration multiple times).
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:35pm northguineahills:

The only 'French' I know is from yearly weekend benders at Mutek in Montreal.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:37pm fred:

I'm French, and I'd be first in line to tell you to avoid French people if you can. We're bitter and eager to get even with people who have nothing to do with it. Avoid us, we're assholes! I mean it
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:37pm glenn:

ah, franglais.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:40pm Cecile:

franglais is awesome.
In QC, I even ended up speaking espafranglais.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:40pm Negative Eclipse:

I like the Belgians.
  Thu. 8/8/13 5:41pm Bz:

Hey, was that just Mika Vanio ?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:42pm northguineahills:

After drinking, my brain puts all non-English languages as foreign, so, I sometimes mix Spanish-French-Japanese in the same phrase. It causes guffaws where ever I travel.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:42pm Cecile:

Belgians invented the French fry, and made the movie A Town Called Panic. I have love for the Belgians.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:43pm fred:

Quebec and Wallons are totally different
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:43pm steve:

trivia question maybe someone will know: has Mika Vainio or Pan Sonic EVER played a show in the US?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:45pm Negative Eclipse:

I live in the town they made Man Bites Dog in..
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:45pm Mike East:

@Cecile - that's the one where they order all the bricks, right? That flick is such a head trip
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:46pm glenn:

montreal : french girls, no dogshit.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:47pm Cecile:

Cool! I've always wanted to see that movie.

The bar in North Dakota that was in the movie Fargo used to be 3 blocks from my house. It got torn down and now is an AIDS hospice.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:47pm Cecile:

Yes! It's hysterical. I laugh until I can't breathe every time I see it.
  Thu. 8/8/13 5:47pm Jedd X:

Just getting to the party, will catch up later, great exit Fabio!!!!!!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:47pm fred:

@Cecile: The whole Belgian/Wallon/Flemish thing is a a sore mess right now, really. It's a complicated mess at that
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:48pm Fabio:

Pan Sonic did play in the US, more than once, but not in a long time, prob, late 90's was the last time.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:48pm Cecile:

Oh, that stinks. I will have to read about that.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:49pm Negative Eclipse:

I lived in Crookston, Minnesota too. Near Fargo. Cold there but fun.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:49pm Cecile:

You gotta do something in those winters!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:49pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

blagdabbit, stepped away & missed Orsi.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:50pm northguineahills:

I've seen Pan Sonic twice in NYC.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:51pm steve:

ngh - when?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:51pm northguineahills:

I last saw Pan Sonic in 2004. Also saw them in 2002. Also saw them in FL in 1999.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:52pm steve:

oh also, where?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:52pm tim from champaign:

Bye folks. Thanks for the great show Fabio!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:53pm northguineahills:

I saw Mika once in NYC (2007?) and Ilpo Väisänen twice in Montreal (2007, 2009?)
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:53pm Rev. Turnip Druid:

clicky-starring the flipping hell out of this Mallander thing.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:54pm steve:

i did catch a short documentary on the eccentric older man who built a lot of their electronics, that was at Geothe Institute i think 3 winters ago
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:54pm steve:

thanks Fab and NGH, guess i didnt become a full fledged fan until the mid 2000s
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:55pm northguineahills:

The NYC shows were at the Mercury Lounge (2002), and what's now the Music Hall of Williamsburg (2004)(I forget the old name) (I could be wrong).
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:56pm steve:

North6 ?
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:56pm Cecile:

If the World Science Fiction Convention is in Helsinki in a couple years, I will try to go.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:56pm Cecile:

gus gus!!!!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:57pm northguineahills:

I saw Bjork on the F train in 2003, while reading a Wire magazine w/ her on the cover.
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:57pm northguineahills:

Yes, North 6!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:58pm Matt from Springfield:

BIS - MILL - AH! Will-not-Fabioooo!
FA-BI-OOOOOOOOOO!
BIS - MILL - AH! Will-not-Fabioooo!
FA-BI-OOOOOOOOOO!

C'mon guys, let's "Bohemian" this joint up! :)
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 5:59pm Matt from Springfield:

Changing of the Captain's Chair ceremony!
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 6:00pm fred:

@Cecile: it's really complicated: long term economic grudges, festering immigration troubles, throw in volatile language troubles and a recent reversal of fortune (French-speakers used to rule, it went the other way) and it's been more volatile seeming than it actually was
Avatar Thu. 8/8/13 6:27pm fred:

But it's pretty bad
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