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Favoriting June 25, 2012: Radio Free Culture #1: Interview with Brewster Kahle, Founder of Archive.org

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Station Manager Ken Interviews Brewster Kahle, Founder of Archive.org   0:00:00 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  6:03pm
ian:

where can you beg, buy, borrow, or steal that circle record? A few minutes of frantic googling is only turning up with a sketchy russian site that charges 10 cents a track
  6:04pm
ian:

speaking of the internet..
  6:04pm
BW:

folks you all can call in as well
  6:04pm
Matt from Springfield:

Forget the "job creators"! We're all about the free digital media repository creators!!!
Just rolls off the tongue!
  6:05pm
other david:

looking forward to this show Ken, very cool guest too - archive.org is an amazing resource.

Ken, probably too far off topic for tonights show - but how does the cost of delivering WFMU for internet listeners compare to the cost of providing it for FM listeners?
  6:06pm
Danne D:

Andy sounds different tonight
  6:06pm
Danne D:

Petabyte Sounds - Music of archive.org
  6:07pm
Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: And strangely technology-literate...
  6:07pm
Danne D:

http://web.archive.org/web/19961115033357/http://wfmu.org/
  6:08pm
Matt from Springfield:

Thanks Danne! Was just about to look for that!
Oooh! Plain text!
  6:08pm
Danne D:

Then 2nd archived wfmu page is awesome:
http://web.archive.org/web/19961218213608/http://wfmu.org/
  6:09pm
Danne D:

So have any terrorist hunters and the like come to archive.org looking for help or information?
  6:09pm
Close Listener:

RFC only once a month? Are there any plans for all the other weekly slots inanely filled by TMI reruns?
  6:09pm
Matt from Springfield:

Ha ha! He's right about MIT! You'd think they have a better page than this!
http://web.archive.org/web/19970606124950/http://www.mit.edu/
  6:10pm
BW:

wow, the napster library got skipped !
  6:10pm
the glowing one:

I wonder how this interview would be like if Ken was drunk again...
  6:10pm
Matt from Springfield:

That's like 1995 quality! Then again, perhaps they were saving space for cooler things.
  6:11pm
Danne D:

Kenny G's popular guide to unpopular music:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970629055100/http://www.wfmu.org/~kennyg/popular.html
  6:12pm
BW:

Danne you are well versed in Archive.org
  6:12pm
Danne D:

For comparison here's the webpage for a larger entity. 1996's nfl.com

http://web.archive.org/web/19961112094729/http://www.nfl.com/
  6:12pm
Matt from Springfield:

"Intertwingled™"
  6:13pm
Danne D:

@BW - lol naah it's pretty much easy to do.
  6:13pm
BW:

folks - call in! with a question - I know you have some good ones...
  6:13pm
the glowing one:

ok serious question: what are their strategies on data rot and data migration?
  6:13pm
Danne D:

OH MY - This Bengals page is not how I remembered the 90s - very bizarro world: http://web.archive.org/web/19961112095415/http://www.nfl.com/bengals/index.html
  6:15pm
Matt from Springfield:

"Interesting to be around"???! Pah! I demand militant CYBORGS!!
  6:15pm
Danne D:

Bruce Coslet and Ki-Jana Carter leading the way! Of course after they started 1-6.

So who's gonna ask 'em about Pr0n.
  6:16pm
Danne D:

Q: More seriously, how do they deal with any potential legality issues in terms of the pages they are archiving?
  6:16pm
Fredericks:

I believe the Turing test only required 60% of the conversation be appropriate/convincing.
  6:19pm
BW:

pron coming!
  6:20pm
Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: For the most part, I say: get a robots.txt file if you don't want your pages archived.
  6:20pm
Bas, NL:

Question: Is there any (way of) rating the value of what to put in the archive?
  6:25pm
Danne D:

LOL Matt - That wasn't why I was asking!
  6:28pm
Danne D:

http://archive.org/details/911
  6:28pm
the glowing one:

I have a question about the 9/11 recordings: I remember that there used to be higher quality mpegs available back then. now they seem to be gone or are at least not accessible. what happened to those files?
  6:29pm
BW:

hah
  6:29pm
Matt from Springfield:

Ah, I'd like to see that 9/11 archive. It's painful, but I'd really like to revisit that for a longer historical view--I haven't looked at the original coverage since it happened.
  6:29pm
Danne D:

lol
  6:30pm
The Interesting Parts:

Technically, when people are sitting down we are in fact under the table
  6:30pm
Danne D:

(lol at the pr0n answer he gave)
  6:30pm
Danne D:

The internet archive just reads playboy for the articles.
  6:31pm
BW:

i was hahing at porn too not you glowing one
  6:31pm
Reno Deputy Junior:

Aw man, that's my daddy's porn, we'll never find that again...
  6:31pm
Curtis:

Question for Brewser KAHLE:
Are there facilities for archiving data for public access via archive.org?
  6:31pm
Matt from Springfield:

I heart the Prelinger Archive! Thank you Brewster!
  6:33pm
Ian (2):

Wonderful topic.

As is is so easy & fast to create information, so too is it increasingly ephemeral. Archive is a great resource & effort to preserve that which is fleeting - Kudos!
  6:34pm
Matt from Springfield:

A lot forums it seems are blocked from Archive.org--there were public, search-engine accessible forums that you could look up, but then if it goes offline archive.org won't show them.
  6:36pm
Danne D:

wow:

http://web.archive.org/web/19961223013844/http://democrats.org/

http://web.archive.org/web/19961220233340/http://rnc.org/
  6:38pm
Danne D:

usatoday.com is a prominent site with no archive btw.

Q: Has there ever been a clear threat that could've taken the entire project down?
  6:49pm
Matt from Springfield:

Art videos (and sounds): ubu.org !!!
  6:50pm
Matt from Springfield:

And, Kenny G said much the same thing regarding UbuWeb, getting obscure but important art pieces, with only a few hundred vinyl LPs available, and making them available to the world.
  6:51pm
BW:

ok anyone else want to call for our debut show?
Im doing the phones
  6:55pm
Matt from Springfield:

At work now, but now that I know about this series I may try to call another time. Thanks Ben!
  6:56pm
BW:

the last monday of every month!
  6:56pm
the glowing one:

nope, the industry just won't give up. they will try again and again.
  6:56pm
Danne D:

Great show :)
  6:57pm
Matt from Springfield:

And yes, SOPA and PIPA were lightning rods, they united so many technology people against it. The near unianimity was important in fighting the lobbyist-bought legislators. Occupy Congress on Jan 17, a number were attracted there in part by SOPA and PIPA (myself included).
  6:57pm
the glowing one:

yes, very good show.
  6:58pm
Bas, NL:

Excellent and very interesting interview!
  6:58pm
Matt from Springfield:

Thanks Ken, Brewster, and again to Ben Walker!
This has a promising start, I will check this out next month!

Have a good night everyone!
  7:00pm
other david:

+1 excellent show, thanks ken, benjamin & brewster
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