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August 3, 2009: Capitalism Debate: Howard Bloom vs. Douglas Rushkoff
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| ramones | We Want the Airwaves | Anthology: Hey Ho, Let's Go! | |
| The Adicts | Eyes In The Back Of Your Head | sound of music | Razor Records |
| Ramones | We Want the Airwaves | Anthology: Hey Ho, Let's Go! |
Mon. 8/3/09 6:03pm
From:
annie
listening...
Mon. 8/3/09 6:03pm
From:
Charles-A.
Here we are...
Mon. 8/3/09 6:04pm
From:
Charles-A.
Hello annie
Mon. 8/3/09 6:05pm
From:
annie
just sent you and message suggesting a show..
Mon. 8/3/09 6:06pm
From:
annie
hi charles!!
Mon. 8/3/09 6:06pm
From:
Charles-A.
Testimonials to Testament...
Mon. 8/3/09 6:07pm
From:
Charles-A.
Thanks annie.
We will look at it. :-)
Mon. 8/3/09 6:08pm
From:
annie
charles, it's an old story, with a new dvd release in september.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:09pm
From:
annie
i signed it "radicalmom"
Mon. 8/3/09 6:10pm
From:
Charles-A.
DVD? Sounds like we might very well want a look.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:11pm
From:
Charles-A.
"radicalmom' Okay...
Mon. 8/3/09 6:12pm
From:
Brian Oregon
I've made several suggestions and gotten no responses, which is discouraging.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:14pm
From:
Janine
Brian,
WE have added all your suggestions and will surely use them. We just had lots ofother shows lined up. But I assure you that they are all being seen by all of us and are being considered. ;) soon come
Mon. 8/3/09 6:14pm
From:
Charles-A.
Don't give up Brian O' its usually a guestion of what fits in.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:15pm
From:
annie
my suggestion is covering the premier of the release od loosechange911- and american coup. dylan's final oeuvre.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:16pm
From:
Brian Oregon
Ok -- thanks for letting me know.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:17pm
From:
Janine
The show is endless...and our google doc is becoming extremely large with ideas.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:18pm
From:
Charles-A.
Any system of currency just requires agreement on their value.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:19pm
From:
Caroline
I would be interested to hear Douglas and his guest discuss high frequency trading...seems like the computers are the ones running the market now.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:23pm
From:
Charles-A.
You're right because trading systems didn't scale. Manual systems couldn't have got us into the mess. We needed computers to have that kind of throughput.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:27pm
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Brian Oregon
Length of life is very different than quality of life. Harold's values are not necessarily the values of others.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:30pm
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Brian Oregon
Also, "average lifespan" is misleading because if many die in youth it pulls down the average. The real questions are (1) infant mortaility, and (2) average lifespan of those who survive to adulthood.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:30pm
From:
Charles-A.
Clothing and parasites reminds of a book I read. "Survival of the Sickest" by Sharon Moalem.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:31pm
From:
Caroline
Slave labor played a big role in making cotton so cheap...I don't call that "savings" even tho' it looks like in on paper
Mon. 8/3/09 6:32pm
From:
Brian Oregon
Yes, imperialism makes life better for those at the top of the pyramid. But it also rots their self-righteous souls as it depends on others being lower on the pyramid.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:34pm
From:
Charles-A.
We are extremely social creatures. Advertising is competitive.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:38pm
From:
Charles-A.
The problem with the Middle East is all the meddling we've done there. Mossadeh is just the previous, democratically elected, occupant of something that became The Peacock Throne under the Shah.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:39pm
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Brian Oregon
Dinka and Nuer wearing t-shirts shows how great capitalism is? Huh?
Mon. 8/3/09 6:41pm
From:
Brian Oregon
Dinka and Nuer people were very tall, much taller than us on average, before they wore t-shirts.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:41pm
From:
Charles-A.
You have to watch out for "the Noblesse Oblige" of the "White Man's Burden"
Mon. 8/3/09 6:42pm
From:
Charles-A.
Capitalism is the most equitable reward mechanism.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:45pm
From:
Charles-A.
The "Accountants of the Soul" NEVER GET IT!
Mon. 8/3/09 6:45pm
From:
Brian Oregon
Capitalism is stacked in favor of the small minority with the large majority of the wealth. The "merit" in the meritocracy of capitalism consists of skills that concentrate power in fewer hands.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:48pm
From:
palmalouch
I've been listening to you for half hour what's your point
Mon. 8/3/09 6:53pm
From:
Caroline
Seems like Howard is more concerned with end result while Douglas is more concerned with process. Question is, where is the boundary of what we will allow in the name of progress?
Mon. 8/3/09 6:53pm
From:
Brian Oregon
An uncharitable interpretation of his point is that he likes being rich and thinks he deserves it.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:55pm
From:
Charles-A.
Its too bad we can't put in HTML 'cause I have some images of Dinka and Nuer wearing t-shirts.
Mon. 8/3/09 6:58pm
From:
Charles-A.
Its just talk by smart people, like our commenters. :-)
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