Playlist for The Media Squat with Douglas Rushkoff - April 6, 2009

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April 6, 2009: with guest Steven Johnson

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Artist Track
The Ramones  We Want the Airwaves  
Douglas  introduction  
Immortal Technique  Harlem Renaissance  
Bob White  Interview  
DJ Food  Raiding The 21st Century (Excerpt)  
Steven Johnson  Interview  
Boxcutter  Chiral  
Steven Johnson  Interview continues  

Listener comments!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:02pm From: annie

present and accounted for..

Mon. 4/6/09 7:04pm From: Sean Daily

Second comment! Woo hoo!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:05pm From: Sean Daily

You're a filthy opposite-of-whatever-I-am, Doug, you loony opposite-of-whatever-I-am!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:05pm From: BF

hello again!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:05pm From: annie

screw labels.. be what you want..

Mon. 4/6/09 7:07pm From: Sean Daily

Amen, annie. No separation except the illusion of separation.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:08pm From: annie

word.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:10pm From: annie

doug, get the kid who made "loose change" and ask him about today's images of terrorism.. etc... he can do a phone interview

Mon. 4/6/09 7:15pm From: rushkoff

Hey everyone@ I will try to be here.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:16pm From: Sean Daily

This is fascinating to me. "Raisin in the Sun" was partly economic? My world view is now askew.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:17pm From: annie

the show is good, but it will be great when it tightens up a bit.... and when are you gonna friend me on FB!!! ?? :)

Mon. 4/6/09 7:18pm From: David

Hi all. If you have any questions for Douglas or guest Steven Johnson...

Mon. 4/6/09 7:21pm From: Sean Daily

Where is everyone else? It's just me, annie and Doug up here.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:22pm From: David

Doug and Steven will be discussing open source, crossing boundaries, power elites and their resistance to those ideas.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:22pm From: annie

it's gotta build up sean... this fellow talking now is steven?

Mon. 4/6/09 7:24pm From: David

Steven Johnson will be on second half of show. Currently on the phone with Douglas is Bob White, this weeks People Doing Real Things guest

Mon. 4/6/09 7:24pm From: Brian Oregon

Congrats to Bob White! There's some really great stuff on local/urban food growing in the newest issue of YES Magazine.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:25pm From: annie

ask him where they can the food?

Mon. 4/6/09 7:27pm From: Sean Daily

How common are urban gardens like this, Doug? Bob sounds cool, but is this being replicated elsewhere?

Mon. 4/6/09 7:28pm From: annie

where was he located? what city? how can we reach him? sean, community gardens are sprouting up everywhere.. vancouver has many!! want links?

Mon. 4/6/09 7:30pm From: Brian Oregon

a bunch of the YES Mag articles are on-line:
http://www.yesmagazine.org/

Mon. 4/6/09 7:30pm From: annie

http://www.communitygarden.org/

Mon. 4/6/09 7:31pm From: Sean Daily

I want numbers, annie! Figures! Statistics! Inquiring mutants want to know!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:31pm From: David

Annie, Bob is in Ashville, North Carolina.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:32pm From: annie

very progressive city...

Mon. 4/6/09 7:32pm From: David

He runs the Pisgah View Community Peace Garden.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:33pm From: Sean Daily

You know you're doing something right when an angry mob burns down your house.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:34pm From: annie

sean, ya dig?.... follow the bread crumbs

Mon. 4/6/09 7:35pm From: annie

a community garden can happen anywhere you dig up soil and plant vegetables.. also... go to www.hyperlocavore.com

Mon. 4/6/09 7:38pm From: sean you there?

you could also start a movement known as guerilla gardening. find an empty plot and plant food!!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:42pm From: jojo

i never heard any commentary about the irony of judge roberts screwing up the quotation of constitution during the inauguration

Mon. 4/6/09 7:42pm From: Sean Daily

Good links, annie. No chanec to exploit them yet, as I'm at work. (But I can find time to post on WFMU. Interesting)

Mon. 4/6/09 7:43pm From: Sean Daily

Boing Boing! Yay!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:43pm From: annie

email me sean... notsowisewoman.... somewhere near yahoo.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:44pm From: Matt

Could you please ask Mr. Johnson about the intentions of some of the founding fathers to protect the elite classes from the masses, and how this relates to the "open source" nature of the constitution? The two seem to contradict.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:44pm From: annie

or i am on Fb...

Mon. 4/6/09 7:46pm From: Sean Daily

You need a lot of bottom-up repair and reform, a LOT. It's more important than top-down, although orders-from-above do have their place.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:47pm From: Brian Oregon

The Constitution needs radical overhaul to be anything close to democratic. Better to start from scratch.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:48pm From: Brian Oregon

It was democracy for the elite white guys (similar to Athens), not democracy for the people.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:50pm From: Sean Daily

Annie: check e-mail.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:51pm From: Brian Oregon

Corporate planned communities are called prisons. Lay out some streets and let the people go...

Mon. 4/6/09 7:51pm From: gold&appel corps.

It's interesting to peruse Jefferson's commentary on what he originally debated for in the Continental Congress. He claims to have argued many times for a lot more anarchistic and radical position, but continuously offered concessions at the pressures of the other States. He also argued multiple times for the total abolition of slavery to be part of the original Declaration and Constitution, both. As to why he later kept slaves, I don't know - success and age affected him for the worse?

Mon. 4/6/09 7:52pm From: Matt

Brian - Yes, so do you mean they kept it open source FOR the elite, not necessarily for the common people?

Mon. 4/6/09 7:52pm From: annie

gotcha.. sean....

Mon. 4/6/09 7:54pm From: David

Good question Matt. Thanks!

Mon. 4/6/09 7:56pm From: Brian Oregon

Matt -- yes, to the extent it was 'open source' at all (I guess the amendment process?), it was very contained -- there was no mass vote on changing the COnstitution, only Congress and the state legislatures, which were not necessarily particularly democratic in 1789, get to vote on amendments. And amending is VERY hard, which protects the status quo, which is controlled by the ruling class.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:58pm From: Legba

Wooo, great show.

Mon. 4/6/09 7:59pm From: Bad R☺nald

The right to bear arms is much more detrimental to society than the right to bare arms (or any other part of one's anatomy). Elite white guys suck!

Mon. 4/6/09 8:02pm From: Matt

Thanks for reading the question by the way Doug.

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