Ken | Playlist | 25 July 2007

Wed. 7/25/07 9:03am From: John from Oslo

Norway performing a test on the new Live Comments, version 2.0

Wed. 7/25/07 9:04am From: Ken

Hello Norway!

Wed. 7/25/07 9:11am From: Vicki from London

England performing a test on the new Live Comments, version 2.0

Wed. 7/25/07 9:11am From: JJZ

Shouldn't the comments get mixed in with the songs or something?

Wed. 7/25/07 9:11am From: nEGATOR

Negator performing a test on the new Live Comments, version 2.0

Wed. 7/25/07 9:13am From: Ken

Vicki - How are those floodwaters doing? Hope you're staying dry.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:15am From: Vicki from London

Doing fine here, thanks to the Thames Barrier! It's the more rural folk who are getting it right now.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:16am From: Ken

JJZ - You mean like in a comments box next to the song info? Decent idea... but then the comments kind of have to relate to the songs.. otherwiose it just becomes clutter.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:16am From: Listener Darien

Panama performing a test on the new Live Comments (capitalized for emphasis), version 2.0

Wed. 7/25/07 9:19am From: JJZ

I was thinking they'd be below the various songs. Like this would be below Rubber Room. Ultimately, I'm not sure how much value there is to the commentable playlists.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:23am From: nh_dave

Bring on the humppa!

Wed. 7/25/07 9:26am From: Adam

Thought it was technical difficulites, then remembered I was listening to WMFU. My feet are also dry.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:28am From: -max- of nyc

Good start! Thought I was the only one who remembered Tonio K., but then only Ken would think to sandwich him in between an Esther Philips bun.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:35am From: Pamela

I think I agree with Ken that it's better to have the comments below the song list. Commentors will just have to adapt and reference the song. Welcome back Ken!

Wed. 7/25/07 9:36am From: Trish

Version 2.0?!

This I gotta try..

Wed. 7/25/07 9:37am From: efd

Max - Tonio K. is certainly not forgotten, at least not at WFMU; I played him on my show a few weeks ago highlighting artists who are on SoundExchange's unpaid artist list, on which he is included.
(hi Ken!)

Wed. 7/25/07 9:37am From: laurie hb

hey, I like this live playlist concept! nice run of songs in which the singers seem to have some scary [drug-induced?] stream-of-consciousness thing going on.
p.s. what's with the math question?

Wed. 7/25/07 9:38am From: Ken

Well, more accurate to call it version 0.02, really, since it's still being tested. But this is the second incarnation of it.. thanks to Kenzo for the coding!

Wed. 7/25/07 9:40am From: Ken

Hi Evan - Did you have any trouble with Turntable Two last Night? That was the Bob Dylan debacle TT...

The math question is to keep away the robot spammers! It's called a captcha..

Wed. 7/25/07 9:42am From: Pamela

So, did this start because DJs were getting lonely in their little box? Or was this to make up for the new microphone?

Wed. 7/25/07 9:43am From: JJZ

Ugh, frames.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:44am From: paj

America! This is the bishop of Tewkesbury, UK calling, using the only hand-powered computer in the town. We need tinned food (pref. peaches), drinking water and snorkels. The world is watching! Please help.
-Ends-

Wed. 7/25/07 9:45am From: Ken

The frames are to prevent people's comments from being blown away before they can submit them, since these live playlist pages auto-refresh every 40 seconds. Suggestions for a better method always welcome.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:46am From: efd

I think I only used Turntable Two once last night, and it did a fine job of delivering the music of Adam and the Ants. Perhaps it's not a Dylan fan.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:47am From: marvelitsky

this is brooklyn testing the Live comments though it seems to be working fine. had some reception issues earlier this morning. 91.1 coming in stronger now. maybe the coffee is kicking in.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:52am From: jeremy

Instead of using frames with 40 sec refreshes, a dose of AJAX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming) with dynamic updating would be pretty slick. That or a nice little flash app calling the comment database. worst case, it'd be nice if the newest comments were towards the top of the frame instead of the bottom. My two cents

Wed. 7/25/07 9:57am From: Vicki from London

Agreed about the comments being in reverse chronological order - the newest comments should be at the top so that no scrolling is required on refresh.

ps: 951+3=954.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:58am From: Listener Dave from NH

Alternatively, put the comment box in a pop-up window. The playlist can refresh underneath like it was set up to before without affecting the comment posting thingie.
It sounds crazy, but it just might work.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:58am From: Travis from Albuquerque

Dylan is playing in concert here in New Mexico this week. I was planning to attend, but I interpreted your technical difficulties to be a message from god telling me to 'skip' it.

Wed. 7/25/07 9:58am From: Listener Mark

The 40 sec update causes a pink screen flash. Ken's main background color is black but the back-background is pink (border?). If the border color were to be the same as the background color, this might be less obvious. Or is it a 'feature'?

Wed. 7/25/07 10:00am From: Ryan from NYC

Nothing eases one into a Wednesday morning like Chipmunks and an electronic organ. (Morning, Ken!)

Wed. 7/25/07 10:01am From: Ernie

I prefer Borax to Ajax. It makes my brights brighter! And that's what counts.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:02am From: jeremy

love this bass on girlboogie.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:02am From: JJZ

Maybe tiny text in a column off to the side, something like the one liner column at http://www.scenemusic.eu/ . Or some sort of ajax thing so it can update nicely on the fly without refreshing. I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. I suppose I'm a pessimist.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:03am From: jeremy

Bleachax really is the ultimate solution. The nuclear option, if you will

Wed. 7/25/07 10:07am From: jeremy

i'm in a suggestive mood today.

some of us aren't too good at math, especially at 9 AM. it'd be cool if a cookie could be set once cherished listener has proven they are 1) arithmetic enabled and 2)mostly human so that they don't need to continue performing simple math

Wed. 7/25/07 10:07am From: Steev

teaching summer camp kids lego camp good music helps children build better

Wed. 7/25/07 10:08am From: NEGATOR

I LOVE THE Von Sudenfed.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:13am From: marvelitsky

Recommend to digest household dirt in hydrochloric acid. as far as pimping the live comments section hmm. recent adds at the top would def. improve use-ability. I luv the simle math, btw. makes me feel good at math.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:13am From: north guinea hills

holy smith! i remember that hoax when we picked it up online in 1996!

satan!

Wed. 7/25/07 10:14am From: north guinea hills

and what was the answer to my arithmatic problem? 666!

Wed. 7/25/07 10:15am From: dei xhrist

Wait, the sounds of hell are Polka?!

Wed. 7/25/07 10:15am From: Chris

Sounds of Hell? I thought that's what we've been listening to since 9 A.M.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:17am From: Jason

Actually the sound of hell is a bunch of finnish drunkards doing a Nirvana song

Wed. 7/25/07 10:21am From: dei xhrist

Reading, writing, and mild epileptic fits of fuscia are much more constructive than work. Maybe the comments should fly/drop down next to the song (like the old organic kartoom.com search map) or a little "click this song if you're commenting on it so this is cohesive." Or not.

Hi dave in NH, I'm in Hampton NH.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:25am From: Erik

simplest would just be to put the "song playing" as part of the header of each post. Something like:
FROM: Erik, Listening To: "You Are My Destiny" by The Mometers from Meet The Mometers Wed Jul. 25, 2007 10:24am
Keeps the clutter off of the songlist and adds relationship to the comments

Wed. 7/25/07 10:25am From: Vicki from London

It's nice, it's toilet paper pink. It's comforting, soft and warm.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:27am From: John from Oslo

Ken, your fascination for German tunes - is it founded on a genuine love for Krautrock that later developed into an audible germanophone masochistic exercise? Every show has some German in it - which in a way is swell - imagine if EVERY show had some Spyro Gyra in it. So keep sending out the Krauts!

Wed. 7/25/07 10:27am From: Jack in Seattle

Has anybody ever mixed Febreze with diluted Hydrochloric Acid? It cleans AND brightens. And smells nice too.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:27am From: Vicki from London

Oh sorry, wrong window

Wed. 7/25/07 10:32am From: Listener Dave

Love ths show, can't believe I got through.

Oh crap, I'm early aren't I?

Wed. 7/25/07 10:34am From: Ken

John - I think my attraction to German comes from when I was a kid - my parents would speak German and Yiddish in front of me when they didn't want me to know what they were talking about. Which was all the time. So I grew up mystified and fascinated by the sound of the language.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:35am From: Flick Hyzer

thank you, I often wondered what food stamps might sound like set to music

Wed. 7/25/07 10:35am From: Wm. in MS

That Mometers track sounds v. Compulsive Gamblers-y -- is that a Greg Cartwright group? (I'm way out of touch.)

Wed. 7/25/07 10:40am From: Ken

Mometers includes our own Scott Williams (Fridays Noon-3pm) and WFMU live music engineer Chris Stubbs.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:43am From: Pamela

Re: German headbanging music. Great! Of course, wreaks havoc with me trying to learn spanish since my German comes up after hearing a song (used to be fluent in German)

Wed. 7/25/07 10:44am From: Bram Stein

Ken you are frightening the kittens with the Rammstein.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:45am From: dei xhrist

HELP THE KITTENS!

Wed. 7/25/07 10:51am From: Shoolie

Maxi is cute!

Wed. 7/25/07 10:51am From: Doug

Seriously, the playlist and the comments should be reverse-chronological; every time it refreshes you have to scroll down again to see either the most recent comment or the most recent tracks... love you Kenzo but this is nicht gut designismus

Wed. 7/25/07 10:53am From: Ken

So, a lot of people seem to agree that having the most recent comments and the most recent track separated is a big problem... we will have to ponder this. But we may make this feature live this week anyway, and perhaps work that into the next version.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:54am From: JJZ

But, when this is officially an archive and no longer live, you want it to be in the order it's in now, so that hundreds of years from now it's easier to read.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:58am From: Shoolie

Rebecca is the cute. My bad.

Wed. 7/25/07 10:59am From: god

If you live another hundred years you may not be wanting to read this

Wed. 7/25/07 11:01am From: Doug

What about a 3-frame design? Or an AJAX design even?

Wed. 7/25/07 11:09am From: jeremy

Song to add to your playlist (being that you have NOTHING to play)
http://www.passthecat.racknine.net/Canrock/05%20Onions.mp3

http://www.passthecat.racknine.net/Canrock/ has quite a bit of ukulele stuff

Wed. 7/25/07 11:12am From: The Framinator

perhaps each song and each comment could be placed in its own frame. for posterity.

Wed. 7/25/07 11:12am From: John from Oslo

Some nice Deep Earth Dome sound clips:

http://www.jtbullitt.com/earth/dome/clips/index.html

Wed. 7/25/07 11:29am From: bwalker

one of the best songs to come down the pike in a while... always good to hear it... how is the rest of the CD?

(there is a Garden....)

Wed. 7/25/07 11:31am From: Ken

The rest of the Felix Kubin/Coolhaven CD is really different from that one song. It's good, but it's completely different - noisier and more experimental.

Wed. 7/25/07 11:34am From: bwalker

I feel like I have my own personal googleken

Wed. 7/25/07 11:34am From: JJZ

Hm. Is that a new Bran Flakes CD?

Wed. 7/25/07 11:37am From: JJZ

Apparently so. http://www.happityme.com/free_bubbles.html

Wed. 7/25/07 11:38am From: jeremy

Googleken: weather 20121 and need results for next deltron 3030 album release, please. no rush. GoogleKen Search click!

Wed. 7/25/07 11:46am From: negator

Does this Dan Deacon song remind anyone of the Ramones? I just get a similar feeling..... Is it me?

Wed. 7/25/07 11:46am From: Tacocat

amanaplanacanalpanama

Wed. 7/25/07 11:50am From: Steev

Ken can u play Boards of Canada, Roygbiv

Wed. 7/25/07 11:50am From: Kenzo

JJZ: Yeah, I've already toyed with the idea of comments and songs being somehow mixed.
JJZ: In the context of this particular page, what about the frames is bothering you?
jeremy: AJAX is not a good solution for this, because it would only be functional on those browsers that support it. Same with Flash. That's why I did neither.
Listener Dave from NH: Ken didn't want the inconvenience of having the comment box in a pop-up.
Listener Mark: Pink flash sure sounds like a feature to me.
jeremy: Interesting idea about suppressing the math question after it's been answered once or twice already. Thanks!
Erik: Repeating the "song playing" next to each comment post would create a lot of clutter in the comments list, no?
Doug and others: Yeah, reverse chronological on the comments has some merit...although it would also be confusing too (as JJZ mentioned). Something to think about.
Doug: 3-frame design is possible, although then the frames could become slightly more annoying. See above re AJAX problems.
The Framinator: Careful what you wish for.

Wed. 7/25/07 11:50am From: JJZ

Amazon suggests that the Aphex Twin song is "Last Rushup 10".

Wed. 7/25/07 11:52am From: gunar

here is cologne, germany testing the Live comments...

Wed. 7/25/07 11:55am From: chance

brunswick, me writing SBIRs @ work & surviving thru WFMU

Wed. 7/25/07 11:59am From: JJZ

The Messer Chups album appears to be Hyena Safari. That being said, I've liked this set, which is why I'm looking things up.

Wed. 7/25/07 12:03pm From: dei xhrist

sounds like you're having a ...somewhat private moment, there, Ken...

Wed. 7/25/07 12:11pm From: Trish

Hey Kenzo. How about tossing a single copy of the 'Now playing' at the bottom of the list of comments ?

And oof, this comment just got zapped to a blank with the frame removal here at the end of the show. A line. I had to retype an entire line!

Wed. 7/25/07 12:23pm From: Cathode Ray

WFMU, the best. My radio was locked on 91.1 from the late '70's thru '95 when I moved to RTP, NC. Listening on the web is great. Still have some of my FMU stuff, I was just wore the Drew Friedman T shirt the other day. One of the local TV stations lets you sort which way the comments go, in forward or reverse order. Don't know how that would work with the real time updates you are doing though.

Wed. 7/25/07 12:36pm From: Steev

is this the sounds of cartoon hell?

Wed. 7/25/07 6:03pm From: fatty jubbo

you would not believe how many times Art Bell would play that goddamn sounds of hell recording and preface it with a comment on how damn spooky it is. It reminds me of a piece Tony Conrad recorded for a Jack Smith film...except the Conrad recording is actually haunting whereas what lurks way beneath Siberia just sounds like a paticularly busy day at Burger King recorded on a boom box, played in a bathroom and rerecorded on a handheld tape recorder.

Wed. 7/25/07 11:05pm From: Lance

Your backwards way of announcing that Dylan isn't dead gave me chills. Thanks, I guess, for showing me that I care a lot more than I thought.

Fri. 7/27/07 11:59am From: Ed lizard

Sounds like Hell?

www.god-zone.org.nz/helldrill.html

Sat. 7/28/07 12:20pm From: webnerd

the comments toy/tool seems to be going wild. It is fascinating to see and read other KEN/FMU listeners thoughts and ideas here. I actually had forgotten about BITTER and Tonio K until I heard it again. Sometimes though, I am prone to chant "Fut fut fut -- I am stoopid" thanks to Tonio K and I think the same LP. Long live the KEN!

Listener comments!