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Music for the revolution in my head: choogling punks; power pop, both skinny-tied and long-haired; soul shouters and girl groups; bubblegum and acid rock; global fuzz; weirdos and outsiders, and the Weirdos and the Outsiders; Archie Shepp and J. Geils. Plus, live bands.

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Favoriting December 9, 2022: Tyler Keith LIVE on the show!!!

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Artist Track Album Label Format Comments New Approx. start time
Mess  Don't Look Back   Favoriting   Beach Impediment Records  7"    *   0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Final Solutions  Brown Panther   Favoriting Songs By Solutions          0:05:26 (Pop-up)
Alien Nosejob  Beatles vs Stones   Favoriting Stained Glass  Antifade      *   0:07:03 (Pop-up)
The Gymslips  Miss Nunsweeta   Favoriting Rocking with the Renees          0:11:23 (Pop-up)
Ribbon Stage  Hearst   Favoriting Hit with the Most  K      *   0:13:36 (Pop-up)
The Toms  I Did The Wrong Thing   Favoriting The Toms          0:15:57 (Pop-up)
Liverpool Echo  Girl on the Bus   Favoriting Liverpool Echo          0:18:16 (Pop-up)
Children Maybe Later  The Dilley Sisters   Favoriting What A Flash Kick!        *   0:20:39 (Pop-up)
              0:24:12 (Pop-up)
 
Rest easy Hamish Kilgour
The Clean  Beatnik   Favoriting Great Sounds Great, Good Sounds Good, So-So Sounds So-So, Bad Sounds Bad, Rotten Sounds Rotten!! (EP)          0:28:03 (Pop-up)
The Great Unwashed  Thru the Trees   Favoriting Clean Out of Our Minds          0:29:21 (Pop-up)
The Mad Scene  Lorelei   Favoriting Blip          0:31:32 (Pop-up)
The Great Unwashed  Hold onto the Rail   Favoriting Clean Out of Our Minds          0:34:23 (Pop-up)
The Clean  Odditty   Favoriting Oddities          0:36:55 (Pop-up)
 
 
Tyler Keith live on the show discussing his new novel, The Mark of Cain
The Neckbones  Dead End Kids   Favoriting Souls on Fire      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pBbTDFJbMI    0:43:46 (Pop-up)
Tyler Keith and The Apostles  Do It for Johnny   Favoriting Do It for Johnny          0:46:49 (Pop-up)
Tyler Keith  Teardrops   Favoriting Alias Kid Twist          0:50:42 (Pop-up)
Teardrop City  I'm a Sinner   Favoriting Later Than You Think          0:53:07 (Pop-up)
 
Tyler Keith  Interview Part 1   Favoriting           0:57:37 (Pop-up)
Teardrop City  I'm Leaving Town   Favoriting It's Later Than You Think          1:09:58 (Pop-up)
Tyler Keith & the Apostles  Bright Side of the Road   Favoriting Do It for Johnny          1:13:10 (Pop-up)
Teardrop City  It's Later Than You Think   Favoriting It's Later Than You Think          1:16:42 (Pop-up)
Tyler Keith  Interview Part 2   Favoriting           1:20:30 (Pop-up)
 
The Flesh Eaters  The Wedding Dice   Favoriting Forever Came Today          1:32:53 (Pop-up)
Divine Horsemen  Devil's River   Favoriting Devil's River          1:37:10 (Pop-up)
Johnny Couch  Haunting   Favoriting Animal Instinct        *   1:41:45 (Pop-up)
The A-Bones  Shallow Grave   Favoriting           1:45:45 (Pop-up)
The Preachers  Just Don't Complain (Gritty Early Mix)   Favoriting           1:48:24 (Pop-up)
Gay Blades  All I Want   Favoriting New England Teen: Unreleased 1965-1968          1:51:29 (Pop-up)
The Tempters  I Will Go   Favoriting Ghost Riders        *   1:54:39 (Pop-up)
Roky Erickson & Clementine Hall  Splash Down   Favoriting           1:58:53 (Pop-up)
 
Howlin Rain  Calling LIghtning, Part 2   Favoriting Live from Pioneertown, CA  Silver Current      *   2:06:59 (Pop-up)
Owen Maercks  Asleep and Awake   Favoriting Owen Maercks AKA Teenage Sex Therapist          2:17:03 (Pop-up)
The Pyramids  Mogho Naba (King of Kings)   Favoriting AOMAWA: The 1970s Recordings        *   2:21:09 (Pop-up)
Brigitte Fontaine  Comme à la Radio   Favoriting Comme à la Radio          2:29:17 (Pop-up)
 
Plastic Candles  After Yeats   Favoriting Dust  Paisley Shirt      *   2:39:09 (Pop-up)
Michael Beach  Mick's Dream   Favoriting 2022 EP  Goner      *   2:42:04 (Pop-up)
Nianio, GeeNerve & Taran  Whispering Walls   Favoriting Frozen Jungle  Sincere Sensation      *   2:43:56 (Pop-up)
Nightime  Spring You Come Again   Favoriting Keeper Is the Heart  Bada Bing!      *   2:48:02 (Pop-up)
Roy Montgomery  A Series of Images from Your Youth   Favoriting Camera Melancholia  Grapefruit Records      *   2:51:36 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:00pm
ultradamno:

Nate! Accelerants!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03pm
Nate K.:

Evening everybody!
  9:03pm
greg from montreal:

yeah!! hey all
  9:03pm
clarke:

i came for the tyler - but the rawk made me stay!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:08pm
tim from washington:

Hi Nate and everyone! Was Final Solutions Jay Reatard related?
  9:09pm
clarke:

boy.. you been smugglin' guitars in here???
  9:10pm
clarke:

it's The Champaign Supernova hisself!!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:11pm
ultradamno:

I like this extraterrestrial rhinoplasty
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15pm
Nate K.:

Hi, folks. Very excited to broadcast my interview with Tyler Keith a little later.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15pm
Nate K.:

@Tim, Jay played drums in Final Solutions, yes.
  9:16pm
clarke:

looking fwd to the interview - full disclosure: tyler is a friend
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16pm
Nate K.:

@Clarke, nice. Thanks for dropping by.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:17pm
Nate K.:

@Tim Zac Ives from Goner Records was also in the Solutions
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:17pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Q: What does Nate K use to preserve his food?
A: Ignitrates!
  9:17pm
clarke:

thank YOU -- i have not yet read tyler's novel, but it's on the way...
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:18pm
tim from washington:

I’ll answer to that, clarke, as long as you pronounce it “Cham-pag-nee”.
  9:18pm
clarke:

as is should be!!
  9:19pm
clarke:

what's happnin' with the Iliini tonight??
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:19pm
tim from washington:

Thanks for the info, Nate! Looking forward to the interview coming up!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20pm
medson:

Hey Nate and all
  9:20pm
clarke:

well, tomorrow the Fighting Illini are taking on Penn State in basket.
  9:21pm
clarke:

medson man!! conjure, son!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22pm
Nate K.:

Hey, @Medson!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23pm
medson:

Hey Clarke
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:23pm
tim from washington:

My Illini sports knowledge is pretty sorry. I chaperoned my daughter’s class field trip to an IIllini women’s basketball game a couple weeks ago. They looked pretty good on the court.
  9:24pm
clarke:

i like their men's basketball program.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26pm
radioronan:

Hello Nate and those sweeping embers..looking forward to interview!
  9:26pm
clarke:

@Tim: how old is the daughter?? do you chaperone often, sir??
  9:28pm
clarke:

RIP Hamish.
  9:28pm
clarke:

hey, does anyone know if hamish drums on David Kilgour's solo albums??
  9:29pm
clarke:

Lone Live The Clean!!
  9:29pm
clarke:

Long AND Lone!!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:33pm
tim from washington:

clarke - she’s 6 and this was the first field trip so far this year.

Men’s Illini basketball seems to be the flagship sport for the school. I took my daughter to see women’s soccer earlier in the fall which was pretty fun.
  9:36pm
clarke:

six - WOW - you took a crew of six year old girls on an outing? what an ADULT you are!!
  9:37pm
clarke:

looking up a few David Kilgour albums it looks like Tane Takona drums on most of them. (i like the drumming on them).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38pm
Chop Scott:

Thanks for the Hamish plays Nate.
  9:38pm
clarke:

but, i also think Hamish is a great drummer, as well!!
  9:40pm
clarke:

or was. rest easy.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:41pm
ultradamno:

A band whose every offshoot band are also iconic
  9:43pm
clarke:

actually Tane Takona RIP, as well.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:48pm
ultradamno:

Wow...it's been since 2017 since I first clickied this
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49pm
medson:

I’m picturing Matt Dillon
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49pm
Nate K.:

Sure thing, Scott!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50pm
Nate K.:

@Ultra, I must have played this since, though. It's my jam.
  10:02pm
clarke:

i also know that the author Larry Brown used to go see The Neckbones quite often - because i saw him there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04pm
Nate K.:

@Clarke, that's cool!
  10:05pm
clarke:

yeah, Larry is a good dude - fan of good music - i don't know if he is still with us??
  10:06pm
clarke:

i should never play dead or alive with anyone.
  10:08pm
clarke:

but, i do know that tyler recommended to me that i read Brown's stuff.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:10pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Nate K and all!!!
  10:11pm
clarke:

willlllburrrr
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:11pm
Nate K.:

Welcome, Will!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:15pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Ultradamno, greg, clarke, tim, Ken HP, medson, radioronan, and Chop Scott!
  10:16pm
clarke:

hows thangs?
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 10:16pm
drew73:

Hello Nate & everyone else!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:17pm
ultradamno:

Hiya Will!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:17pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

tired, had my work party today... got home a lil bit ago
  10:17pm
clarke:

like the xmas party?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19pm
Nate K.:

Hey, Drew! How goes it?
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 10:20pm
drew73:

Heard this one first on Burn it Down years ago; was instantly hooked.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:20pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

yea, appetizers and 🍺 🍻 🍺 🍻
  10:21pm
clarke:

it's later than you drink!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
Nate K.:

@Drew, yes! Great album.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:23pm
ultradamno:

If you wander into the everglades, for sure...
  10:26pm
clarke:

ha ha, alan jackson is NOT modern country - there is still some semblance of the old with jackson
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
northguineahills:

don't know anything about florigia or floribama, nope, not me...
  10:26pm
clarke:

"modern country" is hip-hop with a fiddle.
  10:28pm
clarke:

tim never played with db's - but, all the rest, he was in.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:29pm
ultradamno:

I think modern country is Gangstagrass. I saw them on The Caverns Sessions and they are the most hilariously misguided attempt to meld rap and bluegrass
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29pm
Nate K.:

@Clarke, that's the interesting part. When he first came out, Alan Jackson would have been considered pop!
  10:30pm
clarke:

well, on the edge of it. i am not sure how jackson is used in the novel. i am not a huge alan jackson fan, but compared to the "modern' stuff - I AM!!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:31pm
ultradamno:

(Caverns Sessions, formerly Bluegrass Underground on PBS)
  10:32pm
clarke:

tim lee and chris D are longtime friends.
  10:33pm
clarke:

i highly recommend Tim Lee's memoir!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34pm
Nate K.:

A big thanks to my guest, Tyler Keith! And thanks for listening, folks!
  10:34pm
clarke:

very GREAT, Nate!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35pm
Nate K.:

Thanks, Clarke. Means a lot!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:37pm
ultradamno:

One of Flesh Eaters' top hits, after Boneyard
  10:37pm
clarke:

also, thanks for the broad survey of all the tyler music!! a good cross-section!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37pm
northguineahills:

@nate k: i was going to say, i always thought alan jackson as pop. then again, i label any music w/ lyrics as pop music, so, w/ that definition, old country would be pop....
  10:38pm
clarke:

one of me faves, rite cheer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40pm
Nate K.:

@NGH, tough but fair.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:43pm
Franco Twinkie:

I just realized you were talking about Chris D. For years he was the programmer for The Los Angeles Cinematheque at The Egyptian Theater. Quite the scholar of just about everything.
  10:45pm
clarke:

he's a smart dude!! also a good actor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45pm
Nate K.:

@Fraco, Ha! Yes. Our little conversational tag at the end of the interview.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46pm
Nate K.:

@Clarke One of the few punks that worked with Kevin Costner and Gene Hackman.
  10:47pm
clarke:

hah, right!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:48pm
Franco Twinkie:

The last time I saw The Fleasheaters, they were opening for The Gun Club in Downtown L.A. A personal favorite of late first wave.
  10:48pm
clarke:

that is a long time ago!!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:49pm
Franco Twinkie:

Late 80's.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:50pm
ultradamno:

Have never seen Flesh Eaters, but did get to see Divine Horsemen around that first SST run and they were awesome
  10:50pm
clarke:

wow. cool!! patricia morrison on bass, that night?
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:51pm
Franco Twinkie:

No, Romi Mori.
  10:51pm
clarke:

oh so LATE LATE 80's!!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:52pm
Franco Twinkie:

Mother Juno late.
  10:52pm
clarke:

cool i never caught that 'tour'
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:53pm
Franco Twinkie:

They were beyond beyond.
  10:53pm
clarke:

but also: trumpet time, ha ha.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:55pm
Franco Twinkie:

Yes indeed! Jeffery always had to do something to yank the table cloth.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55pm
Nate K.:

I saw the Flesh Eaters reunion in 2019(???). I was more than satisfied.
  10:56pm
clarke:

that is one reunion i wish i had caught.
  10:56pm
clarke:

(i'm not really big on most reunions)
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:57pm
Franco Twinkie:

Nor I. But what are you going to do? We all missed something vital.
  11:00pm
clarke:

have ya'll seen the latest Gun Club documentary - it's really great.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:00pm
Franco Twinkie:

I'm glad I saw Roky once and only once.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:00pm
ultradamno:

ROKY!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:00pm
ultradamno:

That I would have loved
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:01pm
Franco Twinkie:

I didn't know about a new one Clarke.
  11:01pm
clarke:

i have seen roky several times and each was really great. had 'dinner' with him, too (at the [other] end of a long table).
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:01pm
Franco Twinkie:

This is so sweet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02pm
northguineahills:

nice, clarke!
  11:03pm
clarke:

the new doc is called Ghost On The Highway -- easily the best one, because Ward Dotson is actually interviewed for the film.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:04pm
Franco Twinkie:

I'll check it. Thanks Clarke.
  11:05pm
clarke:

"gay blade" was a post-midevil term - around the time of the muskateers -- it meant a swingin dude.
  11:06pm
clarke:

musketeers?? sp?
  11:07pm
clarke:

Woggles played at joshua tree pappy and h's last nite.
Avatar 11:07pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...missed the Live & ChrisD juxtaposed with Roky...
  11:08pm
clarke:

REV!!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Glad to hear GunClub are treated right.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:09pm
Franco Twinkie:

Whoa! I saw Howin' Rain for free at Ameoba Records in Hollywood in the way back. They kicked so hard.
  11:09pm
clarke:

oh i highly recommend the film - in ALL the live footage compiled on that film JLP never hits a correct note. not one.
  11:10pm
clarke:

actually - sorry -- the footage of the later "gun club" shows jeffrey more on key.
  11:11pm
clarke:

the lucky jim period is more tone-tune-friendly.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

HowlinRain from NoCal ...ok...
  11:12pm
clarke:

there was just a period when jeff was apparently not interested in hitting his notes.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:12pm
Franco Twinkie:

Cry To Me is a personal favorite from Luck Jim. So not punk,punk.
  11:13pm
clarke:

that's a good one - i am quite fond of the title track, meself
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:14pm
ultradamno:

Makes me recall when Exene got a vocal coach. I'm guessing that person is institutionalized now.
  11:14pm
clarke:

i don't want to spoil too much, but there is a moment in the film which actually made me shed a tear.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:15pm
Franco Twinkie:

That too is magnificent. I went to Hanoi shorty after in came out. I was seen it thru Jeffery's eyes.
  11:15pm
clarke:

i think the coach helped exene. the Auntie Christ stuff is more on key.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:15pm
ultradamno:

Jeffrey Lee is OK though, right? Wait, no spoilees!
  11:15pm
clarke:

hah. ha ha.
  11:17pm
clarke:

there's this other little short film on jeffrey lee in london. i forget the name of it. some of it is quite touching, as well.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:17pm
Franco Twinkie:

*Okay* is a relative judgement.
Avatar 11:18pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Never wanted for JLP to have better intonation in the conventional Western sense (it's not always the prime virtue - certainly not in Blues related Musics) - but neither have I seen the film.
  11:18pm
clarke:

i did not say okay. ha ha.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:19pm
ultradamno:

By the way, Sheffield Tape Archives have a pretty great Gun Club set from 83, name your price terms sheffieldtapearchive.bandcamp.com...
  11:19pm
clarke:

yes, Rev - it is amazing how off he was during the period when duckworth was on guitar.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:19pm
Franco Twinkie:

What a puzzling character he was.
  11:20pm
clarke:

you got that right - because he hit the notes on the records!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:20pm
StringOFperils:

He heard something and he followed it.
  11:20pm
clarke:

and, it's not like the dylan thing where he completely re-thinks the song, either.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:21pm
Franco Twinkie:

We could use contrarian here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21pm
northguineahills:

@franco: no we don't!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21pm
StringOFperils:

I think he was invoking the lizard king
  11:21pm
clarke:

you'll see the film. in fact, it is on youtube for FREE!!
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:22pm
Franco Twinkie:

Okay okay!
  11:22pm
clarke:

i'll be interested to find out if you tear up in the same part that i did.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:24pm
Franco Twinkie:

I would ditch the chat and watch it, but this is very interesting. Rarely do people talk about anyone I feel passionate about.
  11:24pm
clarke:

catch it later.
  11:25pm
clarke:

in the interest of full disclosure i am good friends with ward, jim and congo - but, never really talked to JLP.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:26pm
Franco Twinkie:

I grew up with Kid.
  11:26pm
clarke:

other than to say hello, etc.
  11:27pm
clarke:

wow, then Jeffrey was around, as you all grew up in the same 'hood, right?
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 11:27pm
drew73:

There should be a
Burn it Down tee, and the back should just read: "hour three"
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:28pm
ultradamno:

I often recall Lux saying about firing Congo that he played great slide with Gun Club but they didn't really have a place for that, even though he wasn't playing slide with Cramps and was fine.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28pm
Nate K.:

@Drew, I love it!
Avatar 11:28pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

If one thinks of Iggy citing seeing Jim Morrison piss off a bunch of fratboys by singing in a high squeaky voice as a formative experience - maybe he was invoking him !...
  11:29pm
clarke:

i'm not so sure the cramps actually 'fired' congo - it's one of those left before they could fire him's.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:30pm
ultradamno:

I think I've heard Congo call it a firing himself
  11:30pm
clarke:

and then the cramps had to CYA.
  11:30pm
clarke:

well, see the new doc. congo's in it
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:31pm
Franco Twinkie:

Not exactly. Jeffery grew up a few miles away, across The San Gabriel River. But separation by river is psychic as well as physical.
  11:31pm
clarke:

congo was apparently friend with jeff's sister, first.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:32pm
northguineahills:

loved that pyramids and this brigitte fontaine...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I got the impression Lux & Ivy were like Mick & Keef in claiming the whole Empire for themselves ...I thot from Kid's account ...but I'm not real clear on it...
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:32pm
ultradamno:

Though getting fired from The Cramps is like getting fired from The Fall, it just indicates you were there at all.
  11:33pm
holland oatzier holland:

Omelette du fromage!
  11:33pm
clarke:

oh yeah - hell there's no shame in getting fired from ANY band, really.
  11:33pm
clarke:

unless you just totally fucked it up.
Avatar Burn It Down! Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:34pm
Franco Twinkie:

I will only say this: When I met Lux and Ivy, I thought they were so nice.
  11:34pm
clarke:

and congo did NOT!!
  11:34pm
clarke:

oh Ivy is such a sweetheart. lux could be a bit, uh, cruel, at times.
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Franco Twinkie:

He was nice to me because I was Kids friend I suspect.
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ultradamno:

I do love that studio outtake on, I think the Songs reissue, of him screaming at someone
  11:36pm
clarke:

and you deserved it! ha ha.
  11:36pm
clarke:

there was NO ONE nicer on tour than Ivy - EVER!! she was like a den-mother!!
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Franco Twinkie:

Let's be truthful. Back in the day people acted like such animals.
  11:38pm
clarke:

that's truth, right there.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

All very interesting.
  11:39pm
clarke:

i could never, for instance, figure out why the Mats took it out on some club owners!! insane some shit they would pull - and the guy is buying you booze!!
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Franco Twinkie:

I always got a pass, but I saw other people get brutalized. For what? It went both ways.
  11:40pm
clarke:

well, i was ALWAYS appreciative to the venues and employees - unless they deliberately tried to screw ya.
  11:41pm
clarke:

(like the Electric Banana in pittsburgh, hint hint).
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Franco Twinkie:

I would never swim in that sewer again.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

It's like (sort of) I got mocked once for helping someone up who had fallen in a mosh. ...Well, okay. These are the Cultures.
  11:43pm
clarke:

yeah, i just never understood a lot of that 'ethos'.
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Aitch:

Most Exalted Potentate of Love is just about the best track ever, sorry to blurt that, lurking
  11:45pm
clarke:

good blurt!!
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ultradamno:

Mosh pit culture definitely coarsened over time, when I first started going to shows picking someone up was assumed...after awhile skinheads with pull-tabs between their fingers became a thing
  11:45pm
clarke:

that is one of their most original moments, to be sure!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...yerknow - TheClash said Anger can be Power - but is it ?
Sometimes I think Rawk is an unnaturally sustained Kundalini experience : trying to raise & tap sexuality & anger *all the time*. As much as I've exulted in it as long as I can remember - I wonder sometimes what kind of Yoga that is...
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Franco Twinkie:

in Los Angeles, the culture could be pretty harsh on people who didn't look right. Also, Slash Magazine perpetuated lots of crappy behavior gussied up as editorial content.
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clarke:

certainly anger can be power. i am not sure angst can, tho.
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ultradamno:

Though I worry Elon Musk heard Weekend On Mars and took it as a challenge
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drew73:

I recently went to Athens 40 Watt Club for the first time and got knocked sideways by some knucklehead. Not cool, Athens! Or maybe it's a young man's game and I'm aging out.
  11:48pm
clarke:

well, that is one of the GREATEST clubs in the world, so it was a stupid abberation, i hope.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Yeah of course - when young - there's nothing but sexuality & anger anyhow - so if you can make Music & Culture out of it @ all you're getting ahead. Sort of.
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Aitch:

I stand as close as I can to the sound desk, away from any fray.
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Franco Twinkie:

I never went to shows by the hardcore bands. Frankly I was scared to get my ass stomped.
  11:49pm
clarke:

i saw black flag in baton rouge and my feet never touched the floor for about fifteen minutes.
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ultradamno:

I remember a girl stage diving into me and breaking my glasses at a Discharge show...she felt SO BAD about it...this was still 84
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Franco Twinkie:

As the scene changed, there were so many options.
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northguineahills:

The hardcore scene I frequented would always help anyone knocked over. and if any chucklefarks started to cause trouble, they would be 'escorted' out of whatever the venue might have been.
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northguineahills:

(of course, this was the 90s)
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radioronan:

Great show -thanks Nate! Cheers y'all!
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northguineahills:

new Roy Montgomery!

thanks Nate K for the arson! cheers, y'all!
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Aitch:

it was all happening in the 80's didn't know if you were arthur or martha, so many flavours
  11:54pm
clarke:

glasses used to be so expensive!!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Always felt the Hippie when amongst Punks, & the Punk when amongst Hippies ...probly none of which is relevant anymore anyhow.
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Franco Twinkie:

All the zines reveled in showing picture of people beaten bloody. Why?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY Always DJ NateK ~
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Franco Twinkie:

Thanks Nate.
  11:55pm
clarke:

thanks Nate sir!! great show and interview!!
  11:55pm
N'Lo:

Lovely show @djNick, thank you!
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ultradamno:

@Franco a lot of them seemed to have a pro-wrestling mag aesthetic
  11:57pm
clarke:

ta ya'll!! look fwd to hearing about the doc, later.
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Nate K.:

@N'Lo, they call me "Nate" ; )
  11:57pm
clarke:

they call me trinity...
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Franco Twinkie:

Right. I was on the wrestling team in junior high. That cured me.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Nate. Smoldering.
  11:59pm
N'Lo:

Ha! Ok then Nate!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Just saw 'ShangriLa' about RickRubin. He's into Wrestling as a reflection on (Un)reality...
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