WFMU: Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from September 15, 2022

Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from September 15, 2022

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Artist	Track	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
	intro "intro"			0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey's Band	Entry of The Gladiators	1930		0:00:58 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Judl Mit Sein Fiedl "Judl Mit Sein Fiedl" by "Pepi Litman"	1906-1910		0:03:57 (Pop-up)
August de Laat & The Ramblers	Lambeth Dans	1938		0:07:01 (Pop-up)
Collins & Harlan	Pickin' Cotton "Pickin' Cotton" by "Collins & Harlan"	1913	(+ Fred van Eps banjo)	0:09:23 (Pop-up)
The DeZurik (Cackle) Sisters	I ain't gettin' no place	1936-37		0:12:12 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Di Apikorsim "Di Apikorsim" by "Pepi Litman"	1913		0:15:55 (Pop-up)
Walter Roesner and The Capitolians	Medley	1928	1. I'm More than Satisfied 00:14 2. That's No Bargain - Jimmy Dorsey on the Sax 00:56 3. How Come You Do Me - Miff Mole on the Trombone 01:26 4. How Come You Do Me - Nat Brusiloff on the Violin 02:00 5. Ida, Sweet As Apple Cider - Lou Calabrese on the Banjo 02:32 6. A Blues Serenade - Jimmy Lytell on the Clarinet 03:00 7. Dinah - Singer Lou Bring 04:00 8. One Step To Heaven - Georgie stoll on the violin 04:52 9. I'm More than Satisfied - Leo McConville on the Trumpet 05:16	0:19:20 (Pop-up)
Georges Boulanger	Alles Dunkel "Alles Dunkel" by "Georges Boulanger"	1935		0:24:47 (Pop-up)
Ken Griffin	Petite Waltz "Petite Waltz" by "Ken Griffin"	1951		0:27:23 (Pop-up)
Chet Atkins and his Guitar Pickers	I Was Bitten By The Same Bug Twice	1949		0:30:02 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Harbe Schale "Harbe Schale" by "Pepi Litman"	ca.1910		0:34:25 (Pop-up)
Xavier Cugat	El Chivo "El Chivo" by "Xavier Cugat"	1935		0:36:58 (Pop-up)
Edison Vaudeville Company	At The Village Post Office	1907		0:38:48 (Pop-up)
Miller Sextet	Sweet Georgia Brown	1946		0:41:05 (Pop-up)
Spike Jones & His City Slickers	Deep Purple	1952		0:43:53 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	As Meschich werd Kimmen	1910		0:48:58 (Pop-up)
Chubby Parker	Nickety Nackety Now Now Now	1927		0:51:46 (Pop-up)
Victor Borge	A Lesson in Composition	1945		0:54:42 (Pop-up)
Victor Borge	The Blue Serenade "The Blue Serenade" by "Victor Borge"	1945		0:57:49 (Pop-up)
Etienne Lorin et sa Formation Musette	Java des as	1954		1:00:56 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Emes "Emes" by "Pepi Litman"	1910		1:06:05 (Pop-up)
ORVILLE NEWBY and the SADDLE SERENADERS	GHOST TOWN BOOGIE	1950	Orville Newby = Rusty Newby	1:08:56 (Pop-up)
DON McNEILL and FRAN ALLISON	WHAT IS GOD?	1951		1:11:38 (Pop-up)
Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band	Stars And Stripes Forever	1958		1:15:10 (Pop-up)
Cab Calloway And His Orchestra	Minnie The Moocher	1943		1:17:56 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Yismechu "Yismechu" by "Pepi Litman"			1:23:07 (Pop-up)
Capitol City Four Quartet	Medley "Medley" by "Capitol City Four Quartet"	1940	1. I've Been Working on the Railroad 2. Down Mobile 3. Castle on the Nile 4. After Dark	1:25:24 (Pop-up)
Chubby Jackson and his Orchestra	The Happy Monster	1947		1:28:17 (Pop-up)
National Cavaliers	My Blackbirds Are Bluebirds Now	1928		1:31:00 (Pop-up)
Leake County Revelers	Rockin' Yodel	1928		1:33:28 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Schulem Eleichem "Schulem Eleichem" by "Pepi Litman"			1:38:30 (Pop-up)
Boswell Sisters	My Future Just Passed	1930		1:41:17 (Pop-up)
Hal Lone Pine and his Mountaineers	I'd Like To Sit With The Babysitter	1954		1:44:38 (Pop-up)
THE ALL AMERICAN FIVE	THE MOAN "THE MOAN" by "THE ALL AMERICAN FIVE"	1920		1:46:36 (Pop-up)
Johnny and Jones	Het lied van den slangenbezweerder	1938	Song of the snake charmer	1:49:10 (Pop-up)
Malando Orchestra	Bolero "Bolero" by "Malando Orchestra"	1950		1:51:51 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Col Mekadesch "Col Mekadesch" by "Pepi Litman"	1907		1:56:22 (Pop-up)
Edison Orchester Berlin	Bummelfahrt	1907		2:00:43 (Pop-up)

Lots and lots of other audio antiquities on WFMU:

Centennial Songs - The Antique Phonograph Music Program contextually presented by Michael Cumella

The Ragged Phonograph Program with Mike Haar Original ragtime, jazz, and pop music from the first quarter of the 20th century, with historical background on vaudeville-era artists

Thomas Edison's Attic The audio curator at Edison National Historic Site rummages through the archives of the legendary Edison Laboratory of West Orange, New Jersey

The Old Codger: playing 78 RPM records like they're going out of style!

Secret Museum of the Air with Citizen Kafka and Pat Conte: Archives

Rare Oldies Radio hosted by Kitschy Mama, featuring lost songs from the 50s & 60s: Retro Obscuro with Kitschy Mama

Music from the 1920s in the January 7, 2020 episode of Continental Subway with David Dichelle

Music and other recordings of Lynda Barry in the june 7, 2020 episode of Canibal Stew with DJ ARB

You might want also to check out the Surface Noise archives with DJ Joe McGasko from 2008 and 2009

More Dutch 'forgotten artists' can be found on Vergeten Artiesten by Mike Winkelman

Listener comments!
	♥ 10:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi everyone!
	10:07am DJ Guin: good morning Jan!
	♥ 10:08am Jan Turkenburg: Good morning DJ Guin!
	10:15am MHLee: Hi jan dissecting so mostly will be absent from chat
	♥ 10:16am Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	10:16am MHLee: Yiddl with his fiddle is a klezmer piece. Yiddl is a diminutive of Jew
	10:17am MHLee: The version I know has very socially conscious lyrics
	♥ 10:18am Jan Turkenburg: ah, thanks for clearing that for us.
	♥ 10:19am David in California: Hello, Jan!
	10:20am MHLee: The prince nazaroff recordings should be old enough for this show
	♥ 10:21am Jan Turkenburg: Hi David!
	10:31am MHLee: Wow, what year is this?
	♥ 10:32am Jan Turkenburg: different sources say either 1949 or 1950
	10:32am MHLee: This is definitely the earliest Chet recording I've heard
	♥ 10:35am Jan Turkenburg: www.discogs.com...
	10:39am MHLee: Chet was originally a Merle Travis devotee and then developed his own style which was a big influence on George Harrison
	♥ 10:40am Jan Turkenburg: ah, interesting!
	10:52am Mr. Oxford: Hello everyone! Jan, MHLee, DJ Guin!
	10:52am MHLee: Hi Mr Oxford
	10:54am MHLee: We learn a lot on this show because we have different areas we are knowledgeable about
	♥ 10:55am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Mr. Oxford! yes, that's what I like about this too MHLee
	10:56am Mr. Oxford: Apparently the Chubby Parker tune is performed in Alfred Hitchcock's movie The Birds. It sung by schoolchildren in that movie.
	11:00am desi: Hello friends of the airwaves~ is this from My Fair Lady?
	♥ 11:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi desi! I don't think it is.
	♥ 11:02am Jan Turkenburg: In the track before it, the a-side of the record Borge explains how he made a pastiche of two classic(al) melodies.
	11:07am desi: TY "it sounded like I could've danced all night" as I came into the room
	♥ 11:08am Jan Turkenburg: Now you mention it, it does!
	11:08am Dean: Pepi Litman is fantastic. What a discovery! I wish Ward Marston would devote his ample talents to remastering and packaging Litman's work. But he sticks to classical vocal and piano music.
	11:09am MHLee: Pipi Litman's work is in surprisingly good Fidelity
	11:11am MHLee: Ghost towns are so iconic as part of the West... suprised there aren't more ghost town songs
	♥ 11:11am Jan Turkenburg: What Borge does in plain sight, a lot of songwriters do: picking catchy bits of other melodies to make a new song. I actually got that advice from someone when I first started writing songs.
	11:15am MHLee: Weird the dad morphs into his mother
	11:20am DJ Guin: Hidey Hidey Hidey Hidey Hidey Hidey Hi
	♥ 11:20am Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	11:21am MHLee: A lot of folks in this song are under several influences
	11:21am DJ Guin: "Mar 13, 2020 — Recently-deceased 'Good Times' star Ja'Net DuBois' biological father was swing-era jazz icon Cab Calloway, her death certificate suggests."
	11:22am DJ Guin: Pepi Litman! what a 'Mensch'! 😄
	11:24am Mr. Oxford: This is so good.
	11:24am Mr. Oxford: The melody is arresting and the way Pepi Litman sings it.
	11:26am DJ Guin: Next time Jersey City comes gunning for WFMU -- this air shift alone is beyond educational -- it's a Public Service to honor these artists
	♥ 11:26am Jan Turkenburg: I forgot to mention that the members Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band were professionals trying to sound like amateurs.
	11:26am MHLee: Thinking back I played a "male impersonator" on the music hall episode
	11:30am desi: LOVE - this makes me feel like swingin into a jazzy happy hour , but its not yet noon lol
	♥ 11:33am Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	11:34am MHLee: This one is great
	11:41am Dean: More than mere professionals, they were as a friend of mine puts it, proto-Residents.
	♥ 11:42am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Dean!
	11:42am Mr. Oxford: Pepi Litman was for me today's great discovery of the day. Dank u wel, Jan for playing Litman on today's show!
	11:43am MHLee: Pipi i think would have preceeded the drag is cool, pansy craze
	11:43am Dean: He found a review in a newspaper of one of their performances (can't remember if it was live or on record) that just raved about them.
	♥ 11:45am Jan Turkenburg: From the wikis: The Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band was a humorous musical group of amateur and professional musicians living in the San Francisco Bay Area in California, area who played a repertoire of polkas and light classical music while adopting a persona of mild confusion and wearing self-created uniforms once described as rejects from the Franco-Prussian War
	♥ 11:48am Jan Turkenburg: wedding march quote noted
	11:48am Dean: Leader of the Band was the owner of Gump's. Such a nutty story.
	11:50am MHLee: Classic ragtime guitar progression
	♥ 11:51am Jan Turkenburg: and there are all the girls of France
	♥ 11:53am Jan Turkenburg: about Malando: www.discogs.com...
	11:56am Mr. Oxford: Thank you Jan for a great show! And for playing one last song by Pepi. :)
	🎸 ♥ 11:57am WR: Ah, missed Pepi Litman feature, look forward to archive listening.
	♥ 11:57am Jan Turkenburg: Hi WR!
	11:58am Mr Fab: Thanks, Jan! As I was telling MHLee, you two guys are my go-to archive listens, as i rarely get to hear much of these shows live, and they're such a nice way to start the day.
	♥ 11:59am Jan Turkenburg: Mr Fab!
	♥ 12:02pm Jan Turkenburg: and no: the German 'Fahrt' has nothing to do with the English 'fart'
	🎸 ♥ 12:03pm WR: Hmm, Bummelfahrt gogle translates as ride.
	♥ 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: yep!
	♥ 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: bummel is a steam train
	♥ 12:04pm Jan Turkenburg: ok. Bye!
	🎸 ♥ 12:05pm WR: Thank you ! Jan!
	12:16pm desi: tY Jan

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September 15, 2022: 231 Round Pepi Litman
Featuring 8 tracks by Pepi Litman (wikipedia) (video conference about Pepi Litman )

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Artist	Track	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
	intro "intro"			0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey's Band	Entry of The Gladiators	1930		0:00:58 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Judl Mit Sein Fiedl "Judl Mit Sein Fiedl" by "Pepi Litman"	1906-1910		0:03:57 (Pop-up)
August de Laat & The Ramblers	Lambeth Dans	1938		0:07:01 (Pop-up)
Collins & Harlan	Pickin' Cotton "Pickin' Cotton" by "Collins & Harlan"	1913	(+ Fred van Eps banjo)	0:09:23 (Pop-up)
The DeZurik (Cackle) Sisters	I ain't gettin' no place	1936-37		0:12:12 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Di Apikorsim "Di Apikorsim" by "Pepi Litman"	1913		0:15:55 (Pop-up)
Walter Roesner and The Capitolians	Medley	1928	1. I'm More than Satisfied 00:14 2. That's No Bargain - Jimmy Dorsey on the Sax 00:56 3. How Come You Do Me - Miff Mole on the Trombone 01:26 4. How Come You Do Me - Nat Brusiloff on the Violin 02:00 5. Ida, Sweet As Apple Cider - Lou Calabrese on the Banjo 02:32 6. A Blues Serenade - Jimmy Lytell on the Clarinet 03:00 7. Dinah - Singer Lou Bring 04:00 8. One Step To Heaven - Georgie stoll on the violin 04:52 9. I'm More than Satisfied - Leo McConville on the Trumpet 05:16	0:19:20 (Pop-up)
Georges Boulanger	Alles Dunkel "Alles Dunkel" by "Georges Boulanger"	1935		0:24:47 (Pop-up)
Ken Griffin	Petite Waltz "Petite Waltz" by "Ken Griffin"	1951		0:27:23 (Pop-up)
Chet Atkins and his Guitar Pickers	I Was Bitten By The Same Bug Twice	1949		0:30:02 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Harbe Schale "Harbe Schale" by "Pepi Litman"	ca.1910		0:34:25 (Pop-up)
Xavier Cugat	El Chivo "El Chivo" by "Xavier Cugat"	1935		0:36:58 (Pop-up)
Edison Vaudeville Company	At The Village Post Office	1907		0:38:48 (Pop-up)
Miller Sextet	Sweet Georgia Brown	1946		0:41:05 (Pop-up)
Spike Jones & His City Slickers	Deep Purple	1952		0:43:53 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	As Meschich werd Kimmen	1910		0:48:58 (Pop-up)
Chubby Parker	Nickety Nackety Now Now Now	1927		0:51:46 (Pop-up)
Victor Borge	A Lesson in Composition	1945		0:54:42 (Pop-up)
Victor Borge	The Blue Serenade "The Blue Serenade" by "Victor Borge"	1945		0:57:49 (Pop-up)
Etienne Lorin et sa Formation Musette	Java des as	1954		1:00:56 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Emes "Emes" by "Pepi Litman"	1910		1:06:05 (Pop-up)
ORVILLE NEWBY and the SADDLE SERENADERS	GHOST TOWN BOOGIE	1950	Orville Newby = Rusty Newby	1:08:56 (Pop-up)
DON McNEILL and FRAN ALLISON	WHAT IS GOD?	1951		1:11:38 (Pop-up)
Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band	Stars And Stripes Forever	1958		1:15:10 (Pop-up)
Cab Calloway And His Orchestra	Minnie The Moocher	1943		1:17:56 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Yismechu "Yismechu" by "Pepi Litman"			1:23:07 (Pop-up)
Capitol City Four Quartet	Medley "Medley" by "Capitol City Four Quartet"	1940	1. I've Been Working on the Railroad 2. Down Mobile 3. Castle on the Nile 4. After Dark	1:25:24 (Pop-up)
Chubby Jackson and his Orchestra	The Happy Monster	1947		1:28:17 (Pop-up)
National Cavaliers	My Blackbirds Are Bluebirds Now	1928		1:31:00 (Pop-up)
Leake County Revelers	Rockin' Yodel	1928		1:33:28 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Schulem Eleichem "Schulem Eleichem" by "Pepi Litman"			1:38:30 (Pop-up)
Boswell Sisters	My Future Just Passed	1930		1:41:17 (Pop-up)
Hal Lone Pine and his Mountaineers	I'd Like To Sit With The Babysitter	1954		1:44:38 (Pop-up)
THE ALL AMERICAN FIVE	THE MOAN "THE MOAN" by "THE ALL AMERICAN FIVE"	1920		1:46:36 (Pop-up)
Johnny and Jones	Het lied van den slangenbezweerder	1938	Song of the snake charmer	1:49:10 (Pop-up)
Malando Orchestra	Bolero "Bolero" by "Malando Orchestra"	1950		1:51:51 (Pop-up)
Pepi Litman	Col Mekadesch "Col Mekadesch" by "Pepi Litman"	1907		1:56:22 (Pop-up)
Edison Orchester Berlin	Bummelfahrt	1907		2:00:43 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	♥ 10:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi everyone!
	10:07am DJ Guin: good morning Jan!
	♥ 10:08am Jan Turkenburg: Good morning DJ Guin!
	10:15am MHLee: Hi jan dissecting so mostly will be absent from chat
	♥ 10:16am Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	10:16am MHLee: Yiddl with his fiddle is a klezmer piece. Yiddl is a diminutive of Jew
	10:17am MHLee: The version I know has very socially conscious lyrics
	♥ 10:18am Jan Turkenburg: ah, thanks for clearing that for us.
	♥ 10:19am David in California: Hello, Jan!
	10:20am MHLee: The prince nazaroff recordings should be old enough for this show
	♥ 10:21am Jan Turkenburg: Hi David!
	10:31am MHLee: Wow, what year is this?
	♥ 10:32am Jan Turkenburg: different sources say either 1949 or 1950
	10:32am MHLee: This is definitely the earliest Chet recording I've heard
	♥ 10:35am Jan Turkenburg: www.discogs.com...
	10:39am MHLee: Chet was originally a Merle Travis devotee and then developed his own style which was a big influence on George Harrison
	♥ 10:40am Jan Turkenburg: ah, interesting!
	10:52am Mr. Oxford: Hello everyone! Jan, MHLee, DJ Guin!
	10:52am MHLee: Hi Mr Oxford
	10:54am MHLee: We learn a lot on this show because we have different areas we are knowledgeable about
	♥ 10:55am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Mr. Oxford! yes, that's what I like about this too MHLee
	10:56am Mr. Oxford: Apparently the Chubby Parker tune is performed in Alfred Hitchcock's movie The Birds. It sung by schoolchildren in that movie.
	11:00am desi: Hello friends of the airwaves~ is this from My Fair Lady?
	♥ 11:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi desi! I don't think it is.
	♥ 11:02am Jan Turkenburg: In the track before it, the a-side of the record Borge explains how he made a pastiche of two classic(al) melodies.
	11:07am desi: TY "it sounded like I could've danced all night" as I came into the room
	♥ 11:08am Jan Turkenburg: Now you mention it, it does!
	11:08am Dean: Pepi Litman is fantastic. What a discovery! I wish Ward Marston would devote his ample talents to remastering and packaging Litman's work. But he sticks to classical vocal and piano music.
	11:09am MHLee: Pipi Litman's work is in surprisingly good Fidelity
	11:11am MHLee: Ghost towns are so iconic as part of the West... suprised there aren't more ghost town songs
	♥ 11:11am Jan Turkenburg: What Borge does in plain sight, a lot of songwriters do: picking catchy bits of other melodies to make a new song. I actually got that advice from someone when I first started writing songs.
	11:15am MHLee: Weird the dad morphs into his mother
	11:20am DJ Guin: Hidey Hidey Hidey Hidey Hidey Hidey Hi
	♥ 11:20am Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	11:21am MHLee: A lot of folks in this song are under several influences
	11:21am DJ Guin: "Mar 13, 2020 — Recently-deceased 'Good Times' star Ja'Net DuBois' biological father was swing-era jazz icon Cab Calloway, her death certificate suggests."
	11:22am DJ Guin: Pepi Litman! what a 'Mensch'! 😄
	11:24am Mr. Oxford: This is so good.
	11:24am Mr. Oxford: The melody is arresting and the way Pepi Litman sings it.
	11:26am DJ Guin: Next time Jersey City comes gunning for WFMU -- this air shift alone is beyond educational -- it's a Public Service to honor these artists
	♥ 11:26am Jan Turkenburg: I forgot to mention that the members Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band were professionals trying to sound like amateurs.
	11:26am MHLee: Thinking back I played a "male impersonator" on the music hall episode
	11:30am desi: LOVE - this makes me feel like swingin into a jazzy happy hour , but its not yet noon lol
	♥ 11:33am Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	11:34am MHLee: This one is great
	11:41am Dean: More than mere professionals, they were as a friend of mine puts it, proto-Residents.
	♥ 11:42am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Dean!
	11:42am Mr. Oxford: Pepi Litman was for me today's great discovery of the day. Dank u wel, Jan for playing Litman on today's show!
	11:43am MHLee: Pipi i think would have preceeded the drag is cool, pansy craze
	11:43am Dean: He found a review in a newspaper of one of their performances (can't remember if it was live or on record) that just raved about them.
	♥ 11:45am Jan Turkenburg: From the wikis: The Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band was a humorous musical group of amateur and professional musicians living in the San Francisco Bay Area in California, area who played a repertoire of polkas and light classical music while adopting a persona of mild confusion and wearing self-created uniforms once described as rejects from the Franco-Prussian War
	♥ 11:48am Jan Turkenburg: wedding march quote noted
	11:48am Dean: Leader of the Band was the owner of Gump's. Such a nutty story.
	11:50am MHLee: Classic ragtime guitar progression
	♥ 11:51am Jan Turkenburg: and there are all the girls of France
	♥ 11:53am Jan Turkenburg: about Malando: www.discogs.com...
	11:56am Mr. Oxford: Thank you Jan for a great show! And for playing one last song by Pepi. :)
	🎸 ♥ 11:57am WR: Ah, missed Pepi Litman feature, look forward to archive listening.
	♥ 11:57am Jan Turkenburg: Hi WR!
	11:58am Mr Fab: Thanks, Jan! As I was telling MHLee, you two guys are my go-to archive listens, as i rarely get to hear much of these shows live, and they're such a nice way to start the day.
	♥ 11:59am Jan Turkenburg: Mr Fab!
	♥ 12:02pm Jan Turkenburg: and no: the German 'Fahrt' has nothing to do with the English 'fart'
	🎸 ♥ 12:03pm WR: Hmm, Bummelfahrt gogle translates as ride.
	♥ 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: yep!
	♥ 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: bummel is a steam train
	♥ 12:04pm Jan Turkenburg: ok. Bye!
	🎸 ♥ 12:05pm WR: Thank you ! Jan!
	12:16pm desi: tY Jan

Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from September 15, 2022

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