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Favoriting June 23, 2021: Hi-Waisted Modernists #130 - Can Machines Think?


Alan Mathison Turing (23rd June 1912 - 7th June 1954) was the pioneer of artificial intelligence, one of the crackers of the Enigma Code which cut short World War II by an estimated two years, mathematical genius, and LGBTQ+ icon. Persecuted for his homosexuality, he committed suicide after enforced Governmental chemical castration. On today's Hi-Waisted Modernists with DJ GeorgyGirl, The Blue Haired Hippie, I celebrate his life for Pride Month with a reading of his groundbreaking paper "Can Machines Think?".
Turing was granted a posthumous pardon by Queen Elizabeth II in 2013. The Alan Turing Law followed in 2017, which retroactively pardons men cautioned or convicted under historical legislation that outlawed homosexual acts.

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Listener comments!

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Feldpausch:

I believe I am first in line today
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Hello again Adam! You certainly are!!
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MHLee:

indeed
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worldsworstrecords:

yay!
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Rich in Washington:

Hellooooooooo
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

MHLee! Darryl! Hello! :-)
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Hi Rich!
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StringOFperils:

Alan Turing. Wouldn't be here without you, man!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Hi SOp! :-)
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

In the UK, we now have new £50 bank notes with the face of Alan Turing on them <3
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worldsworstrecords:

How wonderful... a tribute to Turing. An absolute genius, an icon, a queer hero
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Darryl - he is all of those indeed <3
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MHLee:

in the US we can't even get genocidal Andrew Jackson off the 20
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StringOFperils:

There can never be enough atonement for what happened to him. Unbelievable.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - :-(
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Rich in Washington:

The Turing story is tragic. Enraging even.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@SOp - Completely 100% agree with you <3
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worldsworstrecords:

Sadly he was just one of hundreds to suffer similar fates
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Steve Jobs, when asked if the bite out of the Apple logo was a tribute, said it wasn't but he wished it had been
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Darryl - yep :-(
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spodiodi:

hi DJ GeorgyGirl and everyone!
that was nice
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Hi spodiodi!
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worldsworstrecords:

Some European countries were still using chemical castration in the 70s
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Darryl - And people still say "But why do we still need Pride?" <sigh>
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Hello, GG and folx! What a poignant subject today. How much has the world lost to bigotry? Hail the homosexual ancestor, Alan Mathison Turing!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Mx Baba Bee!! Hello, my lovely <3
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StringOFperils:

To have done that to him so immediately after he practically saved the entire British fleet (and commercial vessels as well...thank you Deutschland) from going to the sea-bottom just boggles the mind.
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Brian in UK:

Hello GG, thoughtful subject.
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Beany:

The Noah's Ark theme park in the US is making a big thing about "taking back the rainbow".
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@SOp - I know ... it kills me. :-(
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worldsworstrecords:

they're a bit late, Beany. It's ours now!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Hi Brian!! :-)
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Beany - Oh for goodness sake ...
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Beany:

The nutter Ken Ham :-{
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:09pm
DJ GeorgyGirl:

This Friday marks the anniversary of the first time the rainbow flag was raised at Pride in San Francisco <3
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Beany:

PS nice music GG
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Beany - Thank you <3
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Rainbows were around WAY before that! And so was gender and sexual diversity! Anyway, I don't think Noah's family's sexual practices would be acceptable to these take-backers, if they were honest about it.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

For Alan Turing, Gilbert Baker, Harvey Milk ... the mighty list of those whose shoulders we now stand on <3
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - So so true <3
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Beany:

Alan is lauded in Manchester.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Oof. I'm getting all upset now.
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Bigotry depends on hypocrisy.

OK, we can talk about nice things now.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Chocolate. There you go :-)
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flannery:

hello :)
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Beany:

We are all in this place thanks to digital technology
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Hi flannery!! :-)
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

let's talk about conscious machines of loving grace! and electric sheep! and chocolate!
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flannery:

wow just scrolling up... taking back the rainbow big LOL
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@flannery - What do you have coming up for us today? :-)
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - The inclusion of a Brautigan quote made my heart swell :-)
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flannery:

cancer (zodiac) themed!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@flannery - OOO!!! I like!!!
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flannery:

i was excited to come to the chat and share my turing rumor about the bite out of the apple but it appears it has been shared... not a problem...
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

I can't read or hear that Brautigan poem without crying a little.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@flannery - I like that Steve wanted it to be true :-)
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flannery:

i am so impressed to hear that he's on a banknote now!! wow!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - I absolutely adore him :-)
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@flannery - Right? I was so happy to see that too :-)
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MHLee:

Great music here. this is the type of stuff I'm always looking for
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

www.bbc.co.uk...
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - It's *such* a wonderful album :-) Would you like a copy?
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

I had a bit of a cry there. Pulling myself back together now <3
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Book recommendation (hot off the presses!): Ivan Coyote, "Care Of: Letters, connections, and Cures." Bringing these themes of human diversity to the present day, with such compassionate and poetic storytelling gorgeousness.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - I shall look for that :-) Anything recommended by you is a winner for me <3
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MHLee:

@gg I would love to have it. It's not unfitting to the show I run late night,
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - Just made myself a note :-)
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

I want to give a copy of this to everyone, with the hopes that it might open their hearts to understand gender diversity and be even a tiny bit more inclined toward inclusivity. Or even acknowledgement! I love this book.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - You have the brightest soul I have ever ever encountered <3
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Let us not pardon and then celebrate folx decades after we bullied and destroyed their lives!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - <3
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MHLee:

Present computer in 1954 had too be something
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

OK, I'm getting a little hot here. I do bristle at folx who are "over" Pride and call it a sell-out. That's just a mark of privilege.
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

awww, GG! <3
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - The foresight he had was just brilliant <3
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - We need Pride for as long as people ask why we need it. That's what I always say in response <3
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

If you could have seen the joyful glee of the youth here in this little rural community who celebrated our first Pride march last week!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - That must have been so much fun :-)
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MHLee:

@GG You just reminded me of one of the greatest sci-fi stories i have ever heard,
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

The old-timers were so proud of the fearless youth who felt so safe and able to do this! Us old crusty queers were all teary eyed.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - Oh? Do tell! :-)
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Feldpausch:

Georgy, I LOVE what you said;"We need Pride for as long as people ask why we need it."
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - I LOVE THIS <3
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Feldpausch - <3 x
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MHLee:

Greg Egan's cocoon is about gay rights and pride and bioethics... it feels much closer in 2020 than 1995... I have a digital copy somewhere
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - If there's any way at all you could share a copy with me, I would LOVE to read that here <3
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MHLee:

@GG I'll make sure to get it to you. I've already told every around me to read it.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - Thank you :-) <3
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flannery:

Cocoon sounds cool!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

I finally got around to watching "Breakfast on Pluto" - it's only taken me 16 years! - if you've still never seen it, it is BEAUTIFUL <3
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MHLee:

(in fact the only reason i have it in digital was to be able to share it)
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StringOFperils:

I loved that film. And it revived a lost memory of The Rubettes too.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - That just made me very happy to hear :-) <3
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@SOp - I was so swept up by it :-) Sad, funny, sweet - just utterly perfect :-)
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StringOFperils:

and a very creepy Bryan Ferry cameo!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@SOp - Yeah, that one came out of nowhere for me!!!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

The thing is, babies don't know how to talk or walk or read or eat or express themselves. We teach them that as parents and guardians. We effectively programme them. So it doesn't take too much of a leap to do that with a digital brain. I realise that I'm out of my depth here ... but it seems logical.
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MHLee:

@GG You clearly missed the singing fetuses on the last program
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - Lol!!! They're firmly burned into my poor brain now ;-)
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Chris has the football on and it is absolutely bucketing down with rain in Munich!
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MHLee:

sunny here but my co-worker is watching football
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@MHLee - They keep showing the managers on the sidelines and they look half drowned.
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

really enjoying these sounds today!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

By the way, if you like my shows, do please tell people about them :-) I'm always hugely grateful to have such lovely listeners here :-) x
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@Mx Baba Bee - Thank you, my lovely! :-) <3
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StringOFperils:

With enough sub-routines that can build on themselves without limitation, coupled with physical structures that can build themselves, true artificial intelligence should be possible, and it will be not only be consciousness, but physical growth. What happens then will be problematic for us, given that free-roaming physical 'bodies' are almost there now, they're just not autonomous YET. It goes beyond 'logical' at that nexus, which is where quantum computing comes in, where the mathematics of logic no longer apply. It will seem to us what used to be perceived as magic, not unlike our brains, and it will either save us or it will kill us. I think it's much closer now.
www.dw.com...
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

@SOp - Thank you for that! I shall read that after the show :-)
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

One more track after this and then it's over to flannery for New Flanland!
www.wfmu.org...
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Dearest Alan Turing - thank you for everything you did for us. Wherever you are, we hope you have the greatest of happiness <3
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StringOFperils:

Anyway, Alan Turing's contributions, and his life as a person should never be forgotten. Cause for pride indeed. Thanks for the reminder and the music, GG!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Thank you all for listening <3
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Thank you SOp! <3
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flannery:

thank you gg!! loved this hour!!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Thank you flannery!! <3
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Thank you GG and folx!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Thank you lovely Mx Baba Bee! <3
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Please remember that you are all LOVED <3
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

YES! LOVED!
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flannery:

<3 right back at you gg :)
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

plus: CHOCOLATE!
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

:-) <3 xx
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Thank you all!! xx
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WR:

just got connected, will definitely listen to the archived program. thank you for this.
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DJ GeorgyGirl:

Thank you WR!! <3
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spodiodi:

thank you, DJ GG!
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Paper Kosmonaut:

Hi GG - ...And while Darryl's 128 MP3 stream from this day was pitched up, this one is pitched down again. It makes you sound really silly. Listening the day after, I am going to enjoy these tracks. I guess I won't be there on friday as well.. But everything is OK here.
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WR:

Curious PK, the archive playback sounds completely normal for me.

DJ GG. Listening has been a meditative joy. The essay is both evocative and provocative. I will listen again. Your pacing and presentation perfectly gives me time to consider the content. Thank you.
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